Mimsicott

Teaching Game 2

Jan 1st, 2014
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  1. GAME: http://www.epicmafia.com/game/2573622?password=fd1286353570c5703799ba76999323b7c7447b06
  2. SET-UP: CLASSIC (http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Setup693)
  3. FACTS:
  4. Doc = Inigo (n1'd) => nl d2
  5. Toboe: Mafia; reps: pekohina inno, ryouko maf
  6. DM: Cop; reps: ryouko maf, pekohina inno
  7. ================================================
  8. >>>>> DM <<<<<
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  10. Inigo:
  11. good: dark seemed a bit more cautious when they were outing their reports and it seemed a little bit more towny to me because i'm not saying total confidence is bad, it's just the timing and way they outed their reports. they also had a better defense in this circumstance. i'd suggest to try not to be worried about outing your maf reports because it sorta seemed like you could've been copying toboe's maf report, just adding the inno report with it!!
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  13. madains:
  14. muffin: it was good that you outed your two reports in the same message! also this time you asked about outing prior to outing. ++ I thought you did a good job of staying on the offensive! you had good points that were pointing out how toboe was suspicious I'd say hesitate less on outing reports, and try not to focus too much on surprise coincidences (matching reports)
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  16. apple:
  17. DM: you need more confidence in the scenarios but I think that will come with experience. "do the cops still out" is generally something you shouldn't say. claim with conviction! Your argument about toboe not outting both reps (the same) was good. you were on the attack mostly with several args so that's really good
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  19. anne:
  20. Darkmuffin did a good job on defending themselves and even though their cop reports were late, I think that made them seem more village-sided due to the fact that a real cop wouldn't be afraid to out the same reports as their cc. One thing I'd work on is having more confidence in your words and actions and try not to soft as pr.
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  22. Pekohina:
  23. dm did good at defending as well! they didn't overdo it either, which is good, and did well at pointing out flaws in the cc! again, the reports could have been outed a little quicker, but they at least outed them both.
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  25. Usami-sensei:
  26. dark did rlly well with finding scumtells!! but they also softed cop before they outed reports like last game which i would def say you should avoid especially had this not been a teaching game
  27.  
  28. Toboe:
  29. dark did a better of a job of defending but not looking super defensive, coulda outed the maf report sooner but otherwise good
  30.  
  31. blue:
  32. good: Your defence is improving!!! You're not really defensive but your points are fleshing out more.
  33. bad: You need to hesitate less !! Even if you don't feel confident you need to act it to the best of your ability
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  35.  
  36. >>>>> Toboe <<<<<
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  38. Inigo:
  39. good: toboe outed their maf report right away, and i generally agree that outing your maf report immediately on lylo is more important than your inno report! they were firm and confident and gave off a "i'm the cop" and not "i'm the cc" vibe!! i'd suggest trying to talk a bit more? even doing filler is sometimes other than lurking and generally the defense was a little weak to me
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  41. madains:
  42. toboe: again, you had pretty solid confidence, I thought! however, it looked like you were definitely on the defensive just as far as how you outed your reports and stated your argument. try to say more things outside of just arguing for your CC? basically don't speak just when spoken to "dark, if you had a maf report why didn't you say it right away?? " is a bit of a weak statement; it looks like you're accepting that the report is real when no, from your point of view, the report is fake
  43. *addendum: the way I saw it was that "if you had a report" makes it look like you're 1) entertaining the possibility that the report could be real. speaking in hypotheticals when you're CCing rubs me the wrong way and then 2) I forgot what 2) was lol
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  45. apple:
  46. Toboe: you seemed to have frozen up a bit at the beginning of the day. try to out both of your reps at once or at least one after the other your argument about you outting the maf report first was good, just remember what you did this time and do it a bit faster next time and you'll do fine
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  48. anne:
  49. Toboe was still p confident this time and their timining was also pretty good. They didn't really back down all that much, but one thing I'd fix is talking more and not being afraid to out cop reports (even fake ones), too early.
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  51. Pekohina:
  52. ok for toboe they! talked a little more and defended themselves better. they were more "dm is mafia and here's why". what i'd improve is outing all reports (if theres multiple days beforehand) at the same time and being a little quicker to defend themselves.
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  54. Usami-sensei:
  55. i think toboe did very well with being confident and you listened to getting it not to bubble. you should work on speaking more but what you did say was firm which was good
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  57. DM:
  58. Toboe: Well you outted a maf report right away which was good since it was more important, but the exact same cop reports were pretty suspicious and I guess a bit more talking? I dunno you did well
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  60. blue:
  61. good: They outed their report right away and seemed like?? firm and sure and stuff !!
  62. bad: Out all reports at the same time and stuff. Once again, speak a bit more
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