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  1. [02:00:28] Armageddon11 [uid158707@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bvnjtehqrfskrkme] has quit IRC: Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
  2. [02:00:28] <XJR-9> And nothing really fits together
  3. [02:00:40] <XJR-9> So it's confusing as hell to an outsider
  4. [02:00:41] <DSS> well, yeah. it's based on a "what if my character were in Dissidia" list. the story was never gonna be anything to write home about
  5. [02:01:36] <@NeoZEROX> *sigh*
  6. [02:02:42] <XJR-9> Hm, Neo?
  7. [02:02:58] <@NeoZEROX> Regrets
  8. [02:05:57] <@SilverCrono> lmao im the one who wrote the mythology page tho
  9. [02:06:20] <@NeoZEROX> It was my idea to begin with though
  10. [02:06:52] <@SilverCrono> ill take the blame
  11. [02:06:53] <@NeoZEROX> And one who create these four gods >>
  12. [02:07:10] <@NeoZEROX> Blame is mine, I'm the shitty writer here. >>
  13. [02:07:24] <@SilverCrono> the gods part isnt the problem tbh i like that part
  14. [02:07:29] <XJR-9> No blame on anyone
  15. [02:07:39] <XJR-9> I just want to know what the story is about, lal
  16. [02:10:19] <XJR-9> Like I know the deal with the Embodiment and the Sun gods
  17. [02:10:35] <@NeoZEROX> Pretty much start with two gods, Helel and his wife Amaterasu, however Ama power start grow too much for her handle and unable to control. To protect her and their world Helel use the Embodiment to seal Ama in and use energy from war to keep her alive.
  18. [02:10:40] <XJR-9> So when Neo said she saw Mother on the same level I was very ?????
  19. [02:11:25] <@SilverCrono> yeah no @ that ^
  20. [02:11:58] <@NeoZEROX> Why you think that Crono?
  21. [02:13:17] <XJR-9> I do not understand how this fits into the existing mythology and storyline
  22. [02:13:31] <XJR-9> But wth is the existing storyline kek 8D
  23. [02:14:21] <@SilverCrono> how is mother on the same power level as Amaterasu
  24. [02:14:27] <@SilverCrono> who is the strongest god
  25. [02:14:46] <@SilverCrono> by that logic, since we can assume mother is defeated at the end of TC2, the TC2 cast can take out the rest of the gods
  26. [02:14:57] <@NeoZEROX> I said she same level as Genesis and Embodiment
  27. [02:15:02] <@NeoZEROX> Not with Ama >>
  28. [02:15:16] <@SilverCrono> same thing then, this implies the TC2 cast can beat genesis and embodiment
  29. [02:15:20] <@NeoZEROX> I dunno where ath come trom
  30. [02:15:25] <DSS> this reminds me of the tiers we tried to do lal
  31. [02:15:36] <@SilverCrono> and also that means mother could wipe out most of the characters
  32. [02:15:50] <@NeoZEROX> What does cast have do with that ?
  33. [02:15:59] <XJR-9> NeoZEROX: I question whether there is a reason for you inserting Mother at that level of importance other than her being your pet creation.
  34. [02:16:05] <DSS> because assumedly, the cast beats mother in TC2
  35. [02:16:50] <XJR-9> What in-universe justification is there for her being a prominent villain in DCI?
  36. [02:17:11] <@NeoZEROX> Ace help me, you can explain this better then me. ; ;
  37. [02:17:57] <DSS> tbh I never got why mother was supposed to be that strong either
  38. [02:18:29] <XJR-9> It's not strength I am concerned about, but story prominence
  39. [02:18:42] <@NeoZEROX> Just forget it, there too much pressure on me on this
  40. [02:18:47] <DSS> ah, that too
  41. [02:18:58] <XJR-9> I'm wondering why Mother in particular (and by extension TC2) is more important than the other stories?
  42. [02:19:12] <XJR-9> When Embodiment/gods are related to base DCI mythology
  43. [02:19:27] <XJR-9> It's not an attack, Neo. Genuine question.
  44. [02:19:57] <XJR-9> I have no horse in this race 8D
  45. [02:20:14] <@NeoZEROX> Because my idea of Mother is she a living Twilight Crystal, she able control and take souls dead have them serving her, which CoS are
  46. [02:20:36] <XJR-9> There was a horse named "Who Shot the Barman" in the Melbourne Cup today and I am unreasonably amused
  47. [02:21:25] <@NeoZEROX> She become this bond between living and dead and wish combine both world into her prefect image of world while saving it from war
  48. [02:22:02] <@NeoZEROX> And there my shitty idea, go ahead and disagreed >>
  49. [02:22:05] <Eight-bit> I think that if you are comparing fic by fic, Mother can arguably occupy a "high tier" or whatever
  50. [02:22:21] <Eight-bit> but I think it would be wise to differentiate the gods that are actually involved in the creation and management of Sundry
  51. [02:22:39] <Eight-bit> they are their own unparalleled pantheon when it comes to shaping this environment
  52. [02:23:09] <XJR-9> Yeah, my objection would be that it kind of muddies the main storyline to elevate Mother to such prominence
  53. [02:23:12] <Eight-bit> Mother has all these abilities and powers yes, but she isn't intimately involved with shaping Sundry and setting the stage for the stories we want to make
  54. [02:23:27] <XJR-9> But I think you could write a story related to the invasion of an outside force like Mother
  55. [02:24:04] <XJR-9> Once again, it would be nice to know what is the main story people are trying to tell :p
  56. [02:25:43] <@NeoZEROX> Idea of her role is she like this neutral force her CoS even there split on both sides, she really like fear Genesis from Helel control so they both can end war and create prefect world, in return helping Genesis to create his masterpiece
  57. [02:25:49] <@NeoZEROX> *free
  58. [02:25:50] DSS_ [45cf0975@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.207.9.117] has joined ##ursoul
  59. [02:26:09] <@SilverCrono> wb
  60. [02:26:10] <DSS_> disconnected
  61. [02:26:11] <@NeoZEROX> I'm fucking scrub mixing up fear with free. >>
  62. [02:26:23] <@NeoZEROX> fright myself
  63. [02:27:23] <@SilverCrono> i think it would work if she had a restriction imposed on her; for example, breaking into the cycles robs her of most of her power
  64. [02:27:46] <@SilverCrono> so she has to create the CoS to fight and take their own War Points (tm) that go into healing Mother instead of fueling the cycle war
  65. [02:28:00] DSS [45cf0975@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.207.9.117] has quit IRC: Ping timeout: 260 seconds
  66. [02:28:17] <@SilverCrono> not only would this give the CoS a purpose and remove the plot hole of an OP Mother doing nothing, it also kinda mirrors TC2
  67. [02:28:36] <@NeoZEROX> Just creating CoS weaken her
  68. [02:28:42] DSS_ [45cf0975@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.207.9.117] is now known as DSS
  69. [02:28:58] <@NeoZEROX> It take good chuck of her body to create body for them
  70. [02:29:06] <@NeoZEROX> *power
  71. [02:29:16] <@SilverCrono> fully weak mother + CoS is probably more powerful than semi weak alone mother, tho
  72. [02:29:18] NeoZEROX smash head at wall
  73. [02:29:49] <@SilverCrono> anyways, nite
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