9 Lesta Nediam LNC2016-01-31 1035 +cabadejo

Lesta Nediam LNC2016-01-31 1035 +cabadejo
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+cabadejo and +Terran Downvale __ [Long and quickly typed as usual but I have to get a few things off my chest.]



This reply is mostly for cabadejo but would like Terran's eyes on it too.



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Do you realise that the "stop motion" idea (for THAT specific footage) came about in recent weeks and seems to have originated from Flare That? (The guy who did the imitation video of me)



Ever since then it has been picked up by a number of channels - *all of them promoting the flat Earth.*



Have any of the observations I have pointed out by "NASA" ever been picked up by other channels? Let alone the flat Earth crowd?



*The video you have given me a link to has a comment on it from "Flat Earth and Other Hot Potatoes".*



That is significant:



*NONE of these people EVER comment on ANY of my "ISS" videos. Yet they are ALL covering the SAME points and supporting each other.*



I found this comment interesting and I wonder how long it will remain visible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEPuY_OmCps&lc=z12sx5hzryj3j1urj04cgl4gom35vdbyads







*I'll paste it in case it is removed:*

[Start of comment by brad fuller]

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not to be a smartass here, but it's a basic photographic truth that objects closer to the camera move further between sequential images than distant objects do.



So the low frame-rate footage of the close-up astronauts should be "jerky" where the very far away earth should be "smooth".....



So you can't use this visual effect to prove anything... just saying....

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[End of comment by brad fuller]





Of course - if no one is doing anything in space *then all such purported footage must necessarily be fake.*



And so how does one do damage control? *By focusing on BAIT and TRAPS that can later be debunked.*



I have seen this over and over and over again.



It is like everyone focusing on the woman hanging from the window at the alleged "Paris attack". While people argue over whether it is CGI or not there is a guy on the ground flashing a series of lights.



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What SEEMS to be the case is that the "flat Earth" people come along *and are STAMPING their presence on all of the "NASA" footage and give TEMPTING but FLAWED suggestions as to why it is fake.*



I saw one guy allege that the "Tim Peake" interview was green-screen but pointed out where the background can be seen through "Tim Peake". If it is green-screen then that wouldn't be possible! What *IS* possible is that because of video compression two things that are of a similar colour can create weird momentary "see-through" effects like that.



It was TEMPTING but FLAWED.



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For example - with the alleged "stop motion" footage there is the helmet swivel and it DOES look odd. But that is too easy. That is SURELY bait.



(The goal of damage control is to review a piece of footage and answer the question: "What doesn't look right about this footage?" and then to offer TEMPTING but FLAWED observations. It is EASY!)



>>> If you go through ANY of the flat Earth channels that post videos picking apart "NASA" you will find NOTHING. All of it will be GARBAGE. <<<



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How many times can I say this: *The lie system does not make [fatal] mistakes.*



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The lie system DOES NOT want to get caught.



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The lie system has no interest in stopping what it's doing. It has every interest in continuing to do what it is doing.



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*If the helmet cannot move like that then it simply would not move like that.* If it is impossible to move like that then it would represent a FATAL mistake.



The helmet swivel is *BAIT* for "truthers" way back then (and is being brought out again for modern "truthers").



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*What we are looking at is indeed a "psy-op".*



In time there will be new people who come along and DEBUNK all of these claims.



They will be the university aged/level "science gurus" (the upcoming Reds Rhetoric style channels).



*That seems to be the POINT of it.*



The flat Earth people are SATURATING the market with TONS of videos of the SAME material - all of it TEMPTING BUT FLAWED.



With 100 flat Earth "NASA" videos posted how will anyone find mine? GENUINE videos get BURIED. Proof: NONE of the flat Earth folk are SHARING or COMMENTING ON or MENTIONING my videos.



*Yet we got an IMITATION VIDEO!*



HAHAHA how can it be?!



The ONLY acknowledgement Lesta has received from the "flat Earth" community has been an IMITATION VIDEO. And that video inserted FLAWS into my observations.



That video is probably being shown to people and those people will now think they have seen a Lesta video and may not bother with anything else from me.



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*CAN IT GET ANY MORE OBVIOUS?*



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And besides - even if they were to point something out that's legitimate (so far I have not seen anything) then you are supposed to swallow the premise: that the Earth is flat.



That seems to be the catch-all. If something GENUINE is ever found and pointed out - then the flat Earth folk will be all over it like a RASH.



Because if it's coming from the flat Earth crowd then it is going to be dismissed by "normal people" out of hand.



And if I post about it - I have to compete with hundreds of "flat Earth" variations.



(By the way, if we cannot justify a belief in a ball Earth then we are EVEN LESS justified in a belief in a FLAT Earth.)



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Those who bought into the flat Earth will then see all of their "proofs" get debunked.



If an honest person got swept up in this then it will demoralise them and cause them to go back to believing the lie system.



I have seen this happen before. What will happen is a wave of people will say *"I used to think X and Y but now I see that's wrong - I bought into the hoax meme - but now I see some things are real".*



Just as with "TransAsia" we had some people start out calling it a hoax and then a few days later switching sides. Though that was too soon and too obvious.



These people now know to WAIT a while. We are seeing that switch happen with other events now.



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It can all be used to undermine what I am doing. *"But X and Y and Z all turned out to be nothing and so what Lesta has presented - even though I cannot see how - must also be flawed".*



That is what is happening here.



How do I know this? *BECAUSE NONE OF THESE PEOPLE ARE COVERING THE KIND OF THINGS THAT I AM COVERING.*



None of them are talking about the "masking glitches". Yet I KNOW they have seen my videos.



Look at all the negative comments I am getting. Where are those negative comments when it comes to these other channels?



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The problem is this: every second you spend watching THEIR content is a second spent away from other genuine content. It is the same problem with listening to liars. If the liar says something that happens to resonate then a lie has gotten into your head. The lie has distorted your thinking. It has driven you a little bit more insane because your perception of reality is a little more skewed.



The solution is to NOT listen to liars!



With these flat Earth videos that "debunk NASA" - watch them to learn how it is being done. *You will always be shown something TEMPTING but FLAWED.*



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You will ALWAYS be shown a TEMPTING FLAW that turns out to be NOTHING.



Bait and traps. Bait and traps. Bait and traps. Bait and traps. Bait and traps. Bait and traps. Bait and traps. Bait and traps. Bait and traps. Bait and traps. Bait and traps.



Over and over and over.



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*All the while there is no love and support for Lesta.* I am all on my own and literally up against everyone.



*I am getting all of the "flat Earth" comments yet I am not a flat Earther!* How can it be?!



MEANWHILE these people are DEFINITE FLAT EARTHERS and no one is leaving comments giving them sh!t about it.



How can it be?!



Oh, you might see the occasional comment saying "Flat Earth? Really? Is this a joke?"



But that is hardly a criticism.



*It's not hard to see what's going on.*



_I've let this go on for long enough._



*I've now seen enough.*



*With the multitude of flat Earth channels you are getting the APPEARANCES of FLAWS - but they are ALL a misdirection.*



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*This is HOW you do damage control.* You associate anyone who is pointing out genuine problems with being a flat Earther. Who else is it happening to?



What other INDIVIDUAL channels is it happening to?



These people are pumping out plenty of videos where they show TEMPTING but FLAWED observations (which as I say can later be debunked by the "next wave" of debunkers who will gain notoriety).



All the while ANYONE who is critical of "NASA" gets associated with being a flat Earther or that of a closet flat Earther.



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Simply look at the kind of comments I have been getting - *especially with the "ISS debunked in 2 seconds"* - and compare those comments to what people are getting who are DEFINITE flat Earthers.



_None of this is coincidental or accidental._



More and more of the flat Earth crowd are revealing themselves to be *ORGANISED DISINFORMATION* which has the (intentionally paradoxical) outcome of elevating the credibility of "NASA". *_Funny that._*



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*The "stop motion" idea only came about in recent weeks.* It has been picked up everywhere. We are being shown detailed videos that present only FLAWED observations.



Either these people are sloppy *or it's intentional.*



How can it be that these people haven't figured out that the lie system does not make mistakes?



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Battle lines are being drawn.



As I have written - loyalties are going to be strained and tested. *But those who are loyal to the truth will not get even a scratch.*



The flat Earth is the lie system's response.



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*FUN TRIVIA:* What I find curious is that I have been using the phrase _"What on God's flat Earth?"_ since LONG BEFORE the flat Earth topic took off in the big way that it did in 2015.



I hadn't heard of the "flat Earth" BEFORE "TransAsia". The flat Earth idea took off AFTER "TransAsia".



And now I find myself hesitating to write the phrase because it might give the wrong impression. But for weeks prior I had used it without hesitation.



If you do a Google search for the phrase: "What on God's flat Earth" you will find only THIRTY FIVE results. NONE of the results are from me EXCEPT ONE which I'll show in a subsequent post.



In Bing there are only FIVE results for the phrase.



I've written it DOZENS and DOZENS of times. It is one of my standard retorts and I have been using it from the outset [I became active here pretty much on the 1st of January, 2015] though only recently have I been saving my YouTube comments to text files externally so the true number isn't seen in a Google search (but it IS being suppressed). I have written the phrase quite a lot to my Google Plus (but my Google Plus posts don't show up in Google Search results - except rarely/occasionally).



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I'll show you a post soon (well, later this afternoon - it's a low priority). *But isn't it strange that the phrase is effectively being censored?* And so let me finish by asking: *What on God's flat Earth is up with that?!*



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Here is an annotated text file with links to all of Lesta Nediam's posts, comments, videos and discussions:
https://pastebin.com/Bfr5RMSg

Here is Lesta Nediam's Google Plus posts (i.e., blog) - this is where Lesta is most active:
https://plus.google.com/+LestaNediamHQ

Here is an annotated text file with links to all of Lesta Nediam's video uploads:
https://pastebin.com/WV42jUb1

Here is Lesta Nediam's YouTube channel - for videos about the lie system:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3DalBOEZ6RqSyHk8_mGV7w