1950 - EX - Kamikaze

19:47 MEGAtive: Hey Kami
19:47 MEGAtive: Do you mind testing a 4K map?
19:47 Kamikaze: yo
19:48 Kamikaze: hmm i'm testing a iidx controller but sure i can try lmao
19:48 *MEGAtive is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/769244 SLAM - 1950]
19:48 MEGAtive: The AncuL's diff
19:48 Kamikaze: fuck i need to switch to b hold on
19:48 Kamikaze: i did play this before tho
19:48 MEGAtive: I'm currently checking this but I can't play the hardest without HT or EZ lmao
19:48 Kamikaze: and modded
19:49 *Kamikaze is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/769244 SLAM - 1950 [AncuL's EX Lv.24]] <osu!mania> |4K|
19:50 MEGAtive: Oh wow
19:50 Kamikaze: yeah it's just as bad as before
19:50 Kamikaze: 00:15:636 (15636|0,15636|3,15711|1,15711|2,15786|0,15786|3,15861|1,15861|2,15936|0,15936|3,16011|1,16011|2,16086|0,16086|3,16161|2,16161|1,16236|0,16236|3,16236|1) - this is the most universally hated pattern in the game
19:50 Kamikaze: because of that minijack at the end
19:51 MEGAtive: I know
19:51 Kamikaze: and it also has svs on top
19:51 Kamikaze: ha
19:51 MEGAtive: I already mentioned it
19:51 MEGAtive: But he still preserved it lmao
19:51 Kamikaze: literally remove 00:16:161 (16161|1) -  and it's ok
19:51 MEGAtive: That also my suggestion
19:51 Kamikaze: 00:39:036 (39036|1,39036|0,39036|3,39111|2,39111|3,39186|0,39186|1,39261|2,39261|0,39336|3,39336|1,39411|0,39411|2,39486|1,39486|2,39486|3,39561|0,39561|1,39636|2,39636|3) -  this is just aids
19:51 Kamikaze: with svs on top
19:51 MEGAtive: Well I'm gonna open that again
19:52 MEGAtive: That part
19:52 MEGAtive: I think I suggested something more comfortable but he rearranged it that way
19:52 Kamikaze: i'm gonna try it again but my god this chart is overdone
19:52 MEGAtive: Anything else?
19:53 Kamikaze: the whole chart is overdone imo, svs are very unneeded with this hard patterning
19:53 Kamikaze: i'll play it again with nf
19:53 Kamikaze: but you'll probably have to ask someone better than me
19:53 MEGAtive: Yea probably should say to remove the SVs
19:55 Kamikaze: like
19:55 Kamikaze: the slowjam is okay
19:55 Kamikaze: the svs there are cool
19:56 Kamikaze: but the part where there's static in the song
19:56 Kamikaze: nobody will likke to play it
19:56 Kamikaze: it's so frustrating to play
19:56 MEGAtive: Hmm
19:56 MEGAtive: Noted
19:56 Kamikaze: and the svs on top of ridiculously rigid structure is just overkill
19:56 MEGAtive: Maybe I'm going to suggest to reverse the SV on that static part
19:57 MEGAtive: Anything else you want to note?
19:57 Kamikaze: i think the fluctacting rhythm is already very hard
19:57 Kamikaze: no need for any svs there
19:57 MEGAtive: Ok
19:58 MEGAtive: Anything else?
19:58 Kamikaze: you should try asking tidek, guil or any good charter that's high rank for opinions about patterns because i can't judge them well
19:58 Kamikaze: as you saw i can't play it for shit lmao
19:58 MEGAtive: Yea I probably should ask them instead
19:58 MEGAtive: Thanks for your opinion
19:58 Kamikaze: i can only say stuff from charting perspective but yeah
19:58 Kamikaze: np
20:00 MEGAtive: savelog
20:00 MEGAtive: Oops I forgot to write the /
20:00 Kamikaze: xD
20:03 Kamikaze: WAIT THAT'S FUCKING 200 BPM LOL
20:03 Kamikaze: i didn't realize i thought it's like 170
20:03 MEGAtive: Yea it's 200
20:03 Kamikaze: that makes it twice as bad with the jacks holy shit
20:03 MEGAtive: Lmao
20:03 MEGAtive: Glad this was not 220 like 1949
20:03 Kamikaze: if it was 170 i would be like ok those patterns are hard but it's doable
20:03 Kamikaze: but no wonder i can't play it
20:04 MEGAtive: Hmm
20:04 Kamikaze: still 200 jacks is really fucking hard and he slaps hard SVs on them
20:04 Kamikaze: asfdsadfasdf
20:04 Kamikaze: no wonder it's in pending for 4 years now
20:04 MEGAtive: So just leave as jacks is fine?
20:04 MEGAtive: I think I'm going to say to remove the SV as a whole
20:04 MEGAtive: Not the slowjam though
20:05 Kamikaze: honestly i think the entire difficulty is bad and should not be ranked because it's overdone
20:05 Kamikaze: but yeah that's a good start
20:06 MEGAtive: Actually I'm trying to push this because the patterning are unorthodox and hard lmao
20:06 MEGAtive: Maybe I'm going to try to nerf the notes placement more
20:08 Kamikaze: i've found another BIG problem with the set
20:08 Kamikaze: https://i.imgur.com/2UnqVSJ.jpg
20:08 Kamikaze: that's a score i just did on the diff below
20:08 Kamikaze: so
20:08 Kamikaze: i literally went 96 -> 81
20:08 MEGAtive: I actually tried to buff the MX
20:08 Kamikaze: and i lost 2% in two really bad patterns i'll point out in just a moment
20:08 MEGAtive: With more intricate patterning
20:08 Kamikaze: you could fit 2 diffs inbetween those two
20:08 Kamikaze: really
20:09 Kamikaze: oh wait i didn't update
20:09 Kamikaze: lol
20:09 Kamikaze: but still
20:09 MEGAtive: Lmao
20:09 Kamikaze: i'll try the updated one then
20:11 Kamikaze: see
20:11 Kamikaze: this
20:11 MEGAtive: Did my buff actually made it easier lmao
20:11 Kamikaze: versus a 81
20:11 MEGAtive: Dang
20:11 Kamikaze: it got rid of a really cancer jumptrill into hand
20:11 Kamikaze: that i lost a % on
20:12 MEGAtive: Oh
20:12 MEGAtive: So that was the problem
20:12 Kamikaze: however this is the second problem and it's still there
20:12 Kamikaze: 00:48:561 (48561|0,48561|2,48636|3,48636|1,48711|2,48711|0,48786|1,48786|3,48861|0,48861|2,48936|1,48936|3,49011|0,49011|2,49086|3,49086|1,49161|0,49161|2,49236|1,49236|3,49273|2,49311|0,49348|1,49386|3,49423|2,49461|1,49498|0,49536|2,49536|3) -
20:12 Kamikaze: this transition is aids
20:13 Kamikaze: however this was mostly okay to play
20:13 Kamikaze: the diff itself
20:13 Kamikaze: you could EASILY fit another difficulty inbetween this and EX tho
20:13 MEGAtive: Ok
20:13 MEGAtive: I think I'm going to suggest to add a mid diff between this and EX
20:14 MEGAtive: So I don't need to stretch the whole set spread
20:14 Kamikaze: yea
20:15 Kamikaze: mx is mostly fine as it is, that jumptrill is pretty bad but apart from that there are only minor things that bothered me
20:15 Kamikaze: i'm still saying that EX is really bad though
20:15 MEGAtive: Well MX I can still play with breeze so I know what to suggest
20:15 MEGAtive: But EX I still can't without HT or EZ lmao
20:16 MEGAtive: So that also my problem checking this map
20:16 Kamikaze: me neither lmao
20:17 MEGAtive: Ok I'm gonna find a more capable charter for opinion on this diff
20:17 MEGAtive: Thanks for the opinions
20:17 MEGAtive: It really helps a lot
20:17 Kamikaze: np owob