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- @ Sara_Ks 14:24:41
- CriticalPurple Only way is lightly floured, salt pepper and deep fried in lard!
- That can work too
- My husband likes it too but I like a light thin crust
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- innit 14:27:15
- Be nice to cute piggies.
- @ Sara_Ks 14:27:21
- It can also be from gram, they are very similar
- My favorite pig is Porky Pig
- innit 14:28:17
- Why?
- @ Sara_Ks 14:28:25
- He was funny
- + Raven`X 14:28:54
- My favorite Looney Tunes character is Bugs.
- innit 14:29:04
- The most ethical thing is to not eat animals, but if one is to eat animals, at least recognize their dignity and value as Native Americans did. :)
- @ Sara_Ks 14:29:05
- He is FAMOUS!
- + Raven`X 14:29:15
- You know what I miss?
- Farm fresh pork.
- @ Sara_Ks 14:29:24
- Whats that?
- ooh
- innit 14:29:28
- I can work with that, as I know most people aren't ready to be vegan or vegetarian.
- But when people casually disregard the dignity of animals, that is just ignorant and unloving.
- @ Sara_Ks 14:29:50
- Raven`X We can get that
- + Raven`X 14:30:00
- When I was a kid... dad always bought one or two hogs a year. Filled the freezer up. When my brother and I moved in with mom... he always gave us a bunch of meat.
- I could too.... but I don't cook enough. Besides... I have a freezer full of deer and trout.
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- Ignoring Raven`X
- + Caleb 14:30:30
- innit: are you vegan ?
- innit 14:30:45
- I still eat a small amount of eggs, but otherwise yes.
- I don't eggs straight, but I haven't entirely banned all foods that contain eggs.
- I am wrong to eat those eggs, but it is difficult.
- @ Sara_Ks 14:31:14
- Raven`X We never raised livestock. We trade what we grow for various meats, etc
- + Caleb 14:31:41
- innit: my wife and I are vegan except I have cream in coffee when out but not at home.
- @ Sara_Ks 14:31:47
- Raven`X That can be good
- innit 14:31:51
- Oh, I didn't know that.
- Much respect.
- :D
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kheeL7qcYPY
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- innit 14:32:43
- Here is a video of the last few days of Grace's life.
- + Caleb 14:32:43
- it's mostly a health thing but I've seen a few documentaries about how animals are treated in industrial farms and I'm glad not to be eating any of that
- innit 14:32:57
- She was born into cow shape in a world in which humans are in power and don't treat her kind with too much respect.
- All she knows is to try and be close to momma, but our human barriers prevented that.
- She never saw her momma again after this video.
- This is a sin on our species for all time.
- @ Sara_Ks 14:33:40
- Caleb Its gotten better but some producers should be doing something else
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- innit 14:34:01
- But we can start to makeup for it be being kind today to all of God's babies, no matter their shape.
- + Caleb 14:34:02
- I don't like the way they treat animals in factory farms , it's just gross
- @ Sara_Ks 14:34:09
- CriticalPurple Vea production has gotten more ethical
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- + Caleb 14:35:12
- in slaughter houses the animals are so sick they have someone whose job is to puncture the pus sacks along the conveyer belt of carcasses
- innit 14:35:25
- That human was a mean ol' bully.
- + Caleb 14:35:25
- not an exageration
- @ Sara_Ks 14:35:31
- CriticalPurple But I think you are right, its expensive and there are good alternate choices
- innit 14:35:57
- Caleb, yes, even if I wasn't vegetarian, I would eat very little meat as it's just unhealthy and gross.
- + Caleb 14:36:04
- agreed
- @ Sara_Ks 14:36:05
- Raven`X For the most part no. And they don't put them in immobilizeds
- r
- innit Why do you think meat is unhealthy?
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- + maxxiii 14:37:23
- MEAT IS HEALTHY
- innit 14:37:29
- Meat production in factor farms is quite poor.
- It also leads to higher rates of cancer and heart disease, the biggest killers in the developed world.
- + Caleb 14:37:57
- https://nutritionfacts.org/ plant based whole food diet is best based on nutrition
- @ Sara_Ks 14:37:59
- innit How does that make it unhealthy?
- innit 14:38:40
- How is a food source which gives you higher rates of cancer and heart disease unhealthy?
- Is that your question.
- + Caleb 14:38:54
- innit: touche
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- @ Sara_Ks 14:39:46
- innit Yes, because it doesnt, lean beef is healthy. Beef has an abundance of nutrients like B-vitamins, zinc, iron and protein
- innit 14:39:58
- Sara_Ks, I find this topic incredibly unethical.
- + Caleb 14:40:04
- https://nutritionfacts.org/ <--- check it out
- innit 14:40:28
- Our species murders billions of lifeforms each year for food we don't need.
- That food is a major contributor to climate change.
- You haven't showed me you care about that.
- I'm not going to engage you on B12 and niacin in that context.
- Show me you care about babies being murdered, first.
- + Caleb 14:41:07
- animal protein contributing factor in leading causes of death in US
- https://nutritionfacts.org/
- @ Sara_Ks 14:41:13
- Yes, innit
- Beef in an Optimal Lean Diet study: American Journal of Clinical Nutrition journal article
- innit 14:41:29
- Sara_Ks, I utterly refuse to discuss this topic with you.
- You haven't earned the right, in my eyes.
- You have to show me you care about murdered, defenseless animals.
- What we're doing to animals is worse than the Holocaust.
- It's already recognized as such by more advanced thinkers.
- @ Sara_Ks 14:42:25
- innit Is that because you were wrong and refuse to admit it? Do you really mean, you stated something from emotion and not fact?
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- Ignoring Sara_Ks
- innit 14:42:38
- Sara_Ks, I disengaged from you at this time.
- It will be broadly recognized as worse than the Holocaust later this century when artificial meat because widespread.
- Sara_Ks, from my perspective, you're discussing the health benefits of Nazism.
- I refuse to discuss that with a Nazi (from my perpsective).
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