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- [23:53:42] <wolfric> Or simply configure sudo to change the timeout. You do realise that sudo keeps for 15 mins (or there abouts) but only on the same terminal right?
- [23:53:44] <Delf> Any "simple" (in my opinion) changes. Such as installing/removing applications.
- [23:53:44] <nvz> Delf: then there is gksu which also can keep your credentials (for an entire session) and not require you to type it over and over.. and most all apps that need root privs do this already by default
- [23:53:55] <wolfric> if you close it down or switch to another it's complete separate
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- [23:54:15] <nvz> Delf: if you're comfortable with it you can allow yourself to run synaptic for example with no password
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- [23:54:48] <gnarface> to be fair, sudo configuration syntax is nobody's favorite
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- [23:55:07] <Mad-Scientist> Can someone help me set up a watch dog system?
- [23:55:12] <Delf> Plain and simple, once I log in, what the hell is up with having to type the password or RE-assuring the OS that I DO have privileges? Security?.. Come on..
- [23:55:13] <nvz> yeah sudo is confusing at first.. but its not rocket science
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- [23:55:46] <wolfric> Delf: seriously? so you want ANY program you run to be run with full privlidges?
- [23:55:52] <Mad-Scientist> Delf, because you may have walked away and someone else started using the computer
- [23:56:03] <Delf> wolfric: EXACTLY!
- [23:56:11] <nvz> Delf: you seriously misunderstand how simple it is to ruin your computer.. a lot of newbies think compiling as root is ok.. all it takes is a period to be in the wrong place in a makefile or something to lose ALL and I mean ALL of your data
- [23:56:14] <babilen> wolfric: yes
- [23:56:17] <Mad-Scientist> You should consider switching to Windows XP
- [23:56:18] <Sm0ke0ut> lol
- [23:56:20] <|_> run as root, automate log in as root
- [23:56:26] <fester> is there a good way to clean up your sources.list ? i want to sort by mirrors that are close to me
- [23:56:27] <Delf> Mad-Scientist: You let me worry about that, please.
- [23:56:50] <wolfric> lol i have to agree with Mad-Scientist
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- [23:57:03] <Sm0ke0ut> every app you run as root is another security risk
- [23:57:08] <inifile> hello
- [23:57:11] <daemonkeeper> fester: Most <iso-lang-code>.debian.org mirrors use such a system automatically.
- [23:57:13] <Delf> Mad-Scientist: When you've switched to XP, I will follow.
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- [23:57:23] <nvz> Delf: you can explicitly give yourself permission to run apps you need to with NOPASSWD if you like without undermining the features of your system that prevent you from hurting yourself
- [23:57:29] <eli_> bbl
- [23:57:34] <nvz> Delf: its actually pretty simple
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- [23:57:45] <Delf> nvz: Thanks, babilen helped me out with that.
- [23:57:48] <gnarface> Delf: just add 'single' to your boot loader's kernel command line and be done with it. i wash my hands of you
- [23:57:55] <fester> daemonkeeper: so if all i have in my sources.list is like ftp.debian.org it will push me to the closest mirror?
- [23:58:04] <|_> maybe its a test.. how many threats will occure by the most naive setting
- [23:58:05] <thewanderer1> or allow root logins in GDM/KDM :P
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