Ultimate Bowser vs Corrin JMU

Ultimate Bowser vs Corrin JMU

Discussion & Notes

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Neutral
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Methacrylate:
"Scenario:  Corrin in neutral pins on Bowser's shield.

Corrin Frames
15 frames to act out of pin state
10 frames until forward kick hitbox is active

Bowser Frames
7 frames suffered due to shieldstun
3 frames of jump squat
11 frames to shield drop

Grounded Interaction
Corrin (15+10) - Bowser (7+11) = 7 frame advantage Bowser

Aerial Interaction
Corrin (15+10) - Bowser (7+3) = 15 frame advantage Bowser"

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Disadvantage
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Lattie:
'let's kick this chan open with stuff i already found: you corrins can straight up tipper fsmash us as soon as you're out of our neutralB (firebreath) and there's nothing we can do about it, due to the ending lag of that move being oh so very long and your range being just enough."
"even angling the fire upward to delay your character reaching the ground out of hitstun has no effect on this, our only options--if using firebreath on the same plane as you--is either to accept we're gonna get hit and burn you as long as possible to rack up percentage, or mix up the release of firebreath to mess you up or avoid the tipper."
"weather update: releasing firebreath angled up early allows for bowser to barely have enough time to shield since the fire takes some time before reaching corrin and it will delay them falling out of hitstun"

Methacrylate:
"from frame 10 to frame 17, Corrin's upb is intangible
after frame 18, Corrin's body does not have a hurtbox
only Corrin's head has a hurtbox
which is positioned between the massive wings"

Accounts from Discord Users @doctordonut23, @Lattie,
@EnGarde, and @Slamuel, FAir can snipe Corrin's head
during recovery after frame 18.

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Combos and Mixups
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TBD
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Kill Options
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doctordonut23 on Corrin edgeguard vs Bowser:
"Yeah corrin only has bair, pin, and DFS. They aren’t like awful options but nothing too strong
Bair can kill early on an edgeguard tho so it’s just something you have to look out for"

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Stage Selection
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Ruggeru:
"Bowser isn't necessarily uncomfortable but FD can be difficult in some MUs"

Methacrylate:
"I think that in terms of stage selection, Corrin would enjoy a stage like FD just for the juggling attempts
overall the less spacious stages are optimal for Corrin"
"the open tops of stages is preferable here for juggling
Unova, PS2, Kalos, FD to optimize the juggling I would think
Corrin lives and dies on being able to juggle
I really dislike BF for Corrin these days, Corrin loses on that stage by just not having kill power"

EnGarde:
"When I was playing I personally felt more comfortable on Kalos"
"I normally like BF but didn’t vs Bowser"

Kaiser:
"Huh, i actually like BF for corrin. Don't like PS2 since the platforms are so far away"