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CEH Chat dialog for itpro.tv Day 9 Thursday 2 April 2015

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  1. CEH Chat dialog for itpro.tv Day 9 Thursday 2 April 2015
  2.  
  3. itpro.tv or itprotv or CEH or Certified Ethical Hacker:
  4. (Pseudonymised version - if I have missed something please let me know so I can remove it)
  5.        
  6. 14:35
  7. Mickey Mouse
  8. good day to everyone regardless of time zones
  9.        
  10. 14:35
  11. Mickey Mouse
  12. @Iago my connection is good
  13.        
  14. 14:35
  15. Mickey Mouse
  16. try cleaning out your temp files... that seemed to help me the last time
  17.        
  18. 14:35
  19. Mickey Mouse
  20. Good morning Geptto, O
  21.        
  22. 14:36
  23. Mickey Mouse
  24. apparently streaming all day clunks up your system
  25.        
  26. 14:36
  27. Mickey Mouse
  28. Hey @Daisy.
  29.        
  30. 14:36
  31. Mickey Mouse
  32. I think it was my Pc. .memory leaks.. I am on my tablet and all is good..rebooting :?
  33.        
  34. 14:36
  35. Mickey Mouse
  36. Hi Pinocchio, good day to you too
  37.        
  38. 14:36
  39. Mickey Mouse
  40. HAPPY BIRTHDAY to ya...
  41.        
  42. 14:36
  43. Mickey Mouse
  44. @Iago you muswt have a Windows box
  45.        
  46. 14:36
  47. Mickey Mouse
  48. Happy WE (womb emancipation) Day
  49.        
  50. 14:37
  51. Mickey Mouse
  52. must*
  53.        
  54. 14:37
  55. Mickey Mouse
  56. nice
  57.        
  58. 14:38
  59. Mickey Mouse
  60. @Daisy: missed a lot the last few days. will have to catch up the weekend
  61.        
  62. 14:38
  63. Mickey Mouse
  64. @Daisy we say Happy Birthday because it will fit on a cake better
  65.        
  66. 14:38
  67. Mickey Mouse
  68. I was just just going to comment that my live-stream did well yesterday and today, then my Chromecast dropped it.
  69.        
  70. 14:38
  71. Mickey Mouse
  72. Yes @Geptto P.. I should switch to my Linux box
  73.        
  74. 14:39
  75. Mickey Mouse
  76. Hi everyone, looks like I got home just in time!
  77.        
  78. 14:39
  79. Mickey Mouse
  80. I missed the day before yesterday, because three cable guys had to fix my cable and internet... I went thrugh chat and missed a bunch. I'll have to catch up a bit too
  81.        
  82. 14:39
  83. Mickey Mouse
  84. Welcomw Minnie
  85.        
  86. 14:39
  87. Mickey Mouse
  88. Hiiii Minnie. Good afternoon to you
  89.        
  90. 14:39
  91. Mickey Mouse
  92. BRB.
  93.        
  94. 14:39
  95. Mickey Mouse
  96. Hey Minnie! We were already missing you
  97.        
  98. 14:39
  99. Mickey Mouse
  100. Hi Minnie
  101.        
  102. 14:39
  103. Mickey Mouse
  104. Good to see you this morn-noon
  105.        
  106. 14:39
  107. Mickey Mouse
  108. Hi @Minnie. everyone was worried lol
  109.        
  110. 14:39
  111. Mickey Mouse
  112. ha hah Geptto P... just saw your comment about the bday cake
  113.        
  114. 14:40
  115. Mickey Mouse
  116. Nothing has started yet, just everyone wishing Donald a Happy Birthday.
  117.        
  118. 14:40
  119. Mickey Mouse
  120. Hi Minnie
  121.        
  122. 14:40
  123. Mickey Mouse
  124. I've got to go see about breakfast.
  125.        
  126. 14:40
  127. Mickey Mouse
  128. Minnie=white hat hacker queen
  129.        
  130. 14:40
  131. Mickey Mouse
  132. @Huey... doing that too, but for my dogs. lol
  133.        
  134. 14:41
  135. Mickey Mouse
  136. Hi, all. Any idea what the application requirements for the CEH are? They say: Have at least two years of information security related experience. Educational Background that reflects specialization in information security. Does that mean 2 years as a sys admin and a bit of computer science course? Or does that mean being a junior pen tester with security related college coursework?
  137.        
  138. 14:41
  139. Mickey Mouse
  140. would that make queen kat the black hat's queen?
  141.        
  142. 14:41
  143. Mickey Mouse
  144. Hi Duey, welcome
  145.        
  146. 14:41
  147. Mickey Mouse
  148. LOL@Iago - one day
  149.        
  150. 14:42
  151. Mickey Mouse
  152. OH... i just realized that we are finally in the month that Game of Thrones comes back
  153.        
  154. 14:42
  155. Mickey Mouse
  156. this should be a good season
  157.        
  158. 14:42
  159. Mickey Mouse
  160. IF you already read the books
  161.        
  162. 14:42
  163. Mickey Mouse
  164. yeah cant wait for GOT
  165.        
  166. 14:43
  167. Mickey Mouse
  168. Hi Minnie
  169.        
  170. 14:43
  171. Mickey Mouse
  172. I've read the books and am up on the gossip... apparently this year everything changes... don't know if I'll like it
  173.        
  174. 14:43
  175. Mickey Mouse
  176. annnnnnnd waiting on Donald.... these kids and their video games
  177.        
  178. 14:43
  179. Mickey Mouse
  180. +1 goT will be awesome
  181.        
  182. 14:43
  183. Mickey Mouse
  184. @Louie!!! love GoT!
  185.        
  186. 14:44
  187. Mickey Mouse
  188. @Duey: it will differ from person to person. But 2-4 yrs on job experience
  189.        
  190. 14:44
  191. Mickey Mouse
  192. Good morning Bambi H.... I've read some of them too
  193.        
  194. 14:44
  195. Mickey Mouse
  196. Good afternoon @Minnie
  197.        
  198. 14:44
  199. Mickey Mouse
  200. @Minnie - are you sharing the notes that are stored on Mindjet? I tried to access them but can't see them
  201.        
  202. 14:44
  203. Mickey Mouse
  204. Morning Daisy O!
  205.        
  206. 14:44
  207. Mickey Mouse
  208. I have all the books, but stopped reading so I wouldn't ruin the show for myself
  209.        
  210. 14:45
  211. Mickey Mouse
  212. Hello Everyone
  213.        
  214. 14:45
  215. Mickey Mouse
  216. Morning Daisy
  217.        
  218. 14:45
  219. Mickey Mouse
  220. @Pinocchio - is it often people get denied?
  221.        
  222. 14:45
  223. Mickey Mouse
  224. Ok, what is Donald playing with?
  225.        
  226. 14:45
  227. Mickey Mouse
  228. Hi D'artagnan
  229.        
  230. 14:46
  231. Mickey Mouse
  232. @Athos: http://www.metageek.com/products/wi-spy/?utm_expid=190328-107.NZ75ac_XRmymDmGyLaY1Qw.0
  233.        
  234. 14:46
  235. Mickey Mouse
  236. @Duey D: I don't have the answer to that one, sorry
  237.        
  238. 14:46
  239. Mickey Mouse
  240. Good Morning Porthos
  241.        
  242. 14:47
  243. Mickey Mouse
  244. @Aramis W I was only posting the links shared by course and people in chat room
  245.        
  246. 14:47
  247. Mickey Mouse
  248. @Donald the rule is to get your free lunch you can only have 1 birthday a year sorry
  249.        
  250. 14:48
  251. Mickey Mouse
  252. @Aramis W: https://forums.itpro.tv/topic/353/ceh-useful-links
  253.        
  254. 14:48
  255. Mickey Mouse
  256. It means three years in the IT trenches.
  257.        
  258. 14:48
  259. Mickey Mouse
  260. @Aramis W however - if you want I could share my mindmaps as well, no reason why not if I sanitise first
  261.        
  262. 14:48
  263. Mickey Mouse
  264.  
  265.        
  266. 14:48
  267. Mickey Mouse
  268. FYI - https://bitly.com/itpro-ceh-links which resolves to https://forums.itpro.tv/topic/353/ceh-useful-links
  269.        
  270. 14:48
  271. Mickey Mouse
  272. @Minnie... I'm all for that as well
  273.        
  274. 14:49
  275. Mickey Mouse
  276. Thanks Minnie!
  277.        
  278. 14:49
  279. Mickey Mouse
  280. Hey Minnie.... do we have the rest of the chat logs for this week anywhere? Tuesday and Wednesday?
  281.        
  282. 14:49
  283. Mickey Mouse
  284. Thanks for the info! And happy bday Donald.
  285.        
  286. 14:49
  287. Mickey Mouse
  288. Thanks Minnie, I didn't bookmark the bit.ly
  289.        
  290. 14:49
  291. Mickey Mouse
  292. I'm back. Had to catch up on some tickets that came in overnight.
  293.        
  294. 14:49
  295. Mickey Mouse
  296. Minnie - considering how organized you are on your links, I'd love to have your notes too - I've just been using notepad.
  297.        
  298. 14:49
  299. Mickey Mouse
  300. Greetings. Live long and prosper
  301.        
  302. 14:49
  303. Mickey Mouse
  304. I've been using a physical notepad
  305.        
  306. 14:49
  307. Mickey Mouse
  308. @D'artagnan I have them but I haven't sanitised them to post yet - been out and about will do though
  309.        
  310. 14:50
  311. Mickey Mouse
  312. @Aladdin, sure
  313.        
  314. 14:50
  315. Mickey Mouse
  316. @Minnie - I don't want you to go to any trouble Minnie - I saw the links that apparently were to your notes so I was interested. Thanks
  317.        
  318. 14:51
  319. Mickey Mouse
  320. @Minnie: Where & when can we pick up your book? haha
  321.        
  322. 14:51
  323. Mickey Mouse
  324. @Pinocchio lol
  325.        
  326. 14:52
  327. Mickey Mouse
  328. Are there any better options than SQL?
  329.        
  330. 14:54
  331. Mickey Mouse
  332. @Aramis @Donald Thanks
  333.        
  334. 14:55
  335. Mickey Mouse
  336. is a lot just Checking for regular expressions?
  337.        
  338. 14:55
  339. Mickey Mouse
  340. Who keeps entering their name as Tommy Droppable on my website
  341.        
  342. 14:56
  343. Mickey Mouse
  344. @Minnie Your notes are wonderful. Thanks for sharing
  345.        
  346. 14:56
  347. Mickey Mouse
  348. I just got mindjet... it's very MS Office looking
  349.        
  350. 14:57
  351. Mickey Mouse
  352. @GepttoP yw @LouieS it is nowadays, but I live by it for all my study notes, work project planning, etc.
  353.        
  354. 14:58
  355. Mickey Mouse
  356. This is a good SQL Injection resource I found: http://resources.infosecinstitute.com/tutorial-on-sqli-labs/
  357.        
  358. 14:59
  359. Mickey Mouse
  360. Thanks @Louie
  361.        
  362. 14:59
  363. Mickey Mouse
  364. yw
  365.        
  366. 15:00
  367. Mickey Mouse
  368. @Minnie... i don't mind that it's MS office looking. makes it less intimidating to learn a new pice of software
  369.        
  370. 15:00
  371. Mickey Mouse
  372. sqlmap is a great tool
  373.        
  374. 15:00
  375. Mickey Mouse
  376. Thanks Louie
  377.        
  378. 15:00
  379. Mickey Mouse
  380. http://sqlmap.org/
  381.        
  382. 15:01
  383. Mickey Mouse
  384. Thanks @Porthos
  385.        
  386. 15:01
  387. Mickey Mouse
  388. @Porthos thanks
  389.        
  390. 15:01
  391. Mickey Mouse
  392. thanks Porthos
  393.        
  394. 15:01
  395. Mickey Mouse
  396. Thanks Porthos
  397.        
  398. 15:01
  399. Mickey Mouse
  400. It's already in Kali
  401.        
  402. 15:02
  403. Mickey Mouse
  404. And who isn't running some form of SQL in their business environment these days?
  405.        
  406. 15:02
  407. Mickey Mouse
  408. My wife doesn't use SQL for her Photography
  409.        
  410. 15:02
  411. Mickey Mouse
  412. Sorry Huey had to play devils advocate
  413.        
  414. 15:03
  415. Mickey Mouse
  416. I use sql alot at work
  417.        
  418. 15:03
  419. Mickey Mouse
  420. We use SQL alot here too.
  421.        
  422. 15:03
  423. Mickey Mouse
  424. lost my feed
  425.        
  426. 15:04
  427. Mickey Mouse
  428. drop database website;
  429.        
  430. 15:04
  431. Mickey Mouse
  432. Only you Porthos f5
  433.        
  434. 15:04
  435. Mickey Mouse
  436. a must have book http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1494295504?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00 RTFM: red Team Field Manual
  437.        
  438. 15:05
  439. Mickey Mouse
  440. @Porthos: I lost mine for a bit too
  441.        
  442. 15:05
  443. Mickey Mouse
  444. @Porthos I have that - it might actually make sense after this course now
  445.        
  446. 15:05
  447. Mickey Mouse
  448. and another good book is The Hacker Playbook: Practical Guide To Penetration Testing . http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1494932636?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00
  449.        
  450. 15:06
  451. Mickey Mouse
  452. @ Porthos, I would grab that.... but i think I should stop spending money after mindjet
  453.        
  454. 15:06
  455. Mickey Mouse
  456. The RTFM Book is always in my rucksack
  457.        
  458. 15:07
  459. Mickey Mouse
  460. still no feed  
  461.        
  462. 15:07
  463. Mickey Mouse
  464. Make sure to wash all user input before enter it to database
  465.        
  466. 15:07
  467. Mickey Mouse
  468. Wow, I'm gonna be distracted today. Members are needy today.
  469.        
  470. 15:08
  471. Mickey Mouse
  472. http://www.amazon.com/The-Web-Application-Hackers-Handbook/dp/1118026470
  473.        
  474. 15:08
  475. Mickey Mouse
  476.  Porthos alternative device to try?
  477.        
  478. 15:10
  479. Mickey Mouse
  480. Thanks @Pinocchio
  481.        
  482. 15:11
  483. Mickey Mouse
  484. Thanks Pinocchio
  485.        
  486. 15:12
  487. Mickey Mouse
  488. I'm not all the way through it. but great feedback about it!
  489.        
  490. 15:12
  491. Mickey Mouse
  492. Is Jumbo in chat?
  493.        
  494. 15:12
  495. Mickey Mouse
  496. He was earlier
  497.        
  498. 15:12
  499. Mickey Mouse
  500. he is in... the question is he afk
  501.        
  502. 15:12
  503. Mickey Mouse
  504. yup
  505.        
  506. 15:13
  507. Mickey Mouse
  508. Yup
  509.        
  510. 15:13
  511. Mickey Mouse
  512. but he only said good morning
  513.        
  514. 15:13
  515. Mickey Mouse
  516. @Aramis... you should ask Don for a toys....erm... tools budget
  517.        
  518. 15:14
  519. Mickey Mouse
  520. I wanted to thank him for reminding me to play with Armitage. Had a play last night which was fun although I think I want to learn the tools nuts and bolts before using a nice interface like that
  521.        
  522. 15:14
  523. Mickey Mouse
  524. me too
  525.        
  526. 15:14
  527. Mickey Mouse
  528. Yeah , I'm back
  529.        
  530. 15:14
  531. Mickey Mouse
  532. phew! I just tested my private cloud and it's all good
  533.        
  534. 15:15
  535. Mickey Mouse
  536. I think we can all agree this is the hardest point to grasp
  537.        
  538. 15:15
  539. Mickey Mouse
  540. Ah Jumbo - that thank you was for you
  541.        
  542. 15:15
  543. Mickey Mouse
  544. are you kidding. Database and sql is life.
  545.        
  546. 15:15
  547. Mickey Mouse
  548. I find this exiting @Aramis R
  549.        
  550. 15:15
  551. Mickey Mouse
  552. Depends if you a DB Admin
  553.        
  554. 15:15
  555. Mickey Mouse
  556. like Lazlo from Real Genius.
  557.        
  558. 15:15
  559. Mickey Mouse
  560. Correct @. DBs are everywhere and hold our data.
  561.        
  562. 15:15
  563. Mickey Mouse
  564. Database? I use Excel to organize data.
  565.        
  566. 15:16
  567. Mickey Mouse
  568. your welcom
  569.        
  570. 15:17
  571. Mickey Mouse
  572. LOL @Captain my captain
  573.        
  574. 15:17
  575. Mickey Mouse
  576. yeah and access is really clunky
  577.        
  578. 15:17
  579. Mickey Mouse
  580. "Axcel". nice.
  581.        
  582. 15:17
  583. Mickey Mouse
  584. excel is pretty elegant at this point
  585.        
  586. 15:18
  587. Mickey Mouse
  588. hate on it all you want... it's a beast
  589.        
  590. 15:18
  591. Mickey Mouse
  592. A few years ago someone did a survey, and found out a high percentage of people were using it to organize data.
  593.        
  594. 15:18
  595. Mickey Mouse
  596. you can even use SQL on PCAP's now https://code.google.com/p/pcap2sql/
  597.        
  598. 15:18
  599. Mickey Mouse
  600. darn row limits... heh
  601.        
  602. 15:18
  603. Mickey Mouse
  604. Main Reason most accountants will fight you tooth and nail to change to something else
  605.        
  606. 15:18
  607. Mickey Mouse
  608. I hate web dev
  609.        
  610. 15:18
  611. Mickey Mouse
  612. @ Aladdin Wasn't he in Beverly Hills Cop?
  613.        
  614. 15:18
  615. Mickey Mouse
  616. +1 for Excel, I love it
  617.        
  618. 15:18
  619. Mickey Mouse
  620. wasn't that just "Axel"" heh
  621.        
  622. 15:19
  623. Mickey Mouse
  624. calc and excel
  625.        
  626. 15:19
  627. Mickey Mouse
  628. Re accountants - at an unnamed organisation they wanted to go full Google apps for work instead of Office365
  629.        
  630. 15:19
  631. Mickey Mouse
  632. They have ended up doign both as accountants want their excel
  633.        
  634. 15:19
  635. Mickey Mouse
  636. For most users Apple Numbers, Google Sheets or open source will do
  637.        
  638. 15:19
  639. Mickey Mouse
  640. I haven't figured out how to Fill in any direction for Google Sheets.
  641.        
  642. 15:20
  643. Mickey Mouse
  644. @Huey... google sheets can't handle the same stuff
  645.        
  646. 15:20
  647. Mickey Mouse
  648. I love that [selection] Ctrl-D.
  649.        
  650. 15:21
  651. Mickey Mouse
  652. once you go over ... i think it was a 40 meg file.... it just crashes
  653.        
  654. 15:21
  655. Mickey Mouse
  656. what if Donald is really using this as S.E. to pentest itpro with all his gadgets
  657.        
  658. 15:21
  659. Mickey Mouse
  660. It seems Excel is a good alternative to those who only have it as a resource or just don't know any better right?
  661.        
  662. 15:22
  663. Mickey Mouse
  664. I am not a database guy myself
  665.        
  666. 15:23
  667. Mickey Mouse
  668. libre office calc has worked well for me but I don't write big sheets
  669.        
  670. 15:23
  671. Mickey Mouse
  672. @Jumbo... i would say for ALMOST everyone... excel alternatives would be fine
  673.        
  674. 15:23
  675. Mickey Mouse
  676. @Aramis Thanks
  677.        
  678. 15:24
  679. Mickey Mouse
  680. Accountants, data analysts, data miners, etc
  681.        
  682. 15:24
  683. Mickey Mouse
  684. they need it
  685.        
  686. 15:24
  687. Mickey Mouse
  688. yeah - simple stuff, no need to pay for msoffice. just use freebies.
  689.        
  690. 15:24
  691. Mickey Mouse
  692. Hopefully, there is a mark5 PineApple.
  693.        
  694. 15:24
  695. Mickey Mouse
  696. @Louie: I generally compile information in Excel, then convert to Sheets when finished.
  697.        
  698. 15:25
  699. Mickey Mouse
  700. @Aladdin for most users I agree.
  701.        
  702. 15:25
  703. Mickey Mouse
  704. @Geptto... there is
  705.        
  706. 15:25
  707. Mickey Mouse
  708. Are mobile phones covered in the CEH Cert?
  709.        
  710. 15:25
  711. Mickey Mouse
  712. Sweet
  713.        
  714. 15:25
  715. Mickey Mouse
  716. I overheard them talking about it
  717.        
  718. 15:26
  719. Mickey Mouse
  720. I wouldn't laugh since I switched to a wallet that blocks rfid this year
  721.        
  722. 15:26
  723. Mickey Mouse
  724. Those things are so awesome.
  725.        
  726. 15:26
  727. Mickey Mouse
  728. @Captain my captain is this the link you meant? http://www.cometohack.com/2014/05/5000-fresh-google-dorks-list-for-sql_7713.html
  729.        
  730. 15:26
  731. Mickey Mouse
  732. weird: my chrome session will not display all the chat messages. but my tablet did. I just logged with IE and the chat is fine...hmmm
  733.        
  734. 15:26
  735. Mickey Mouse
  736. @ Aramis Thanks again
  737.        
  738. 15:27
  739. Mickey Mouse
  740. Have you ever used devices to read rfid chips as part of testing?
  741.        
  742. 15:27
  743. Mickey Mouse
  744. U.S. Passports of the last few years have RFID in the back cover.
  745.        
  746. 15:27
  747. Mickey Mouse
  748. @Scrooge, are you in the UK?
  749.        
  750. 15:27
  751. Mickey Mouse
  752. Yes for Abutmas
  753.        
  754. 15:27
  755. Mickey Mouse
  756. block it pocket is another one
  757.        
  758. 15:27
  759. Mickey Mouse
  760. East Coast US
  761.        
  762. 15:27
  763. Mickey Mouse
  764. i seen them give out them wallets on defcon
  765.        
  766. 15:27
  767. Mickey Mouse
  768. i played with device controler rfids and tags for fun
  769.        
  770. 15:28
  771. Mickey Mouse
  772. in the US it's almost unnecessary. Most people dont that the RFID chips and any of their cards
  773.        
  774. 15:28
  775. Mickey Mouse
  776. I did virustotal it firt
  777.        
  778. 15:28
  779. Mickey Mouse
  780. Will be required by end of this year
  781.        
  782. 15:28
  783. Mickey Mouse
  784. For MC and Visa
  785.        
  786. 15:28
  787. Mickey Mouse
  788. overseas.. .almost all of their card have a PKI chip in them
  789.        
  790. 15:28
  791. Mickey Mouse
  792. Already have two with chips
  793.        
  794. 15:29
  795. Mickey Mouse
  796. @Minnie thanks but it did ask me to install a plug-in so I stopped
  797.        
  798. 15:29
  799. Mickey Mouse
  800. uBLOCK
  801.        
  802. 15:29
  803. Mickey Mouse
  804. @Scrooge... I think that IPv6 was mandatory as well lol
  805.        
  806. 15:29
  807. Mickey Mouse
  808. https://blog.udemy.com/sql-injection-tutorial/
  809.        
  810. 15:29
  811. Mickey Mouse
  812. Thanks Aramis
  813.        
  814. 15:30
  815. Mickey Mouse
  816. Oh no , I have to reboot Grrrrr,
  817.        
  818. 15:30
  819. Mickey Mouse
  820. I post this from time to time very important since faraday cages are mentioned. http://www.futurescience.com/emp/emp-protection.html
  821.        
  822. 15:30
  823. Mickey Mouse
  824. CC companies will be more likely to do it if it is costing them money
  825.        
  826. 15:30
  827. Mickey Mouse
  828. I expect if they don't the govt will force it
  829.        
  830. 15:31
  831. Mickey Mouse
  832. @Scrooge are you in US?
  833.        
  834. 15:31
  835. Mickey Mouse
  836. just got first cc with rfid from bank... i don't think they've enabled all the features though.
  837.        
  838. 15:31
  839. Mickey Mouse
  840. all European CC have Chip and Pin, works well to majorly reduce fruad
  841.        
  842. 15:32
  843. Mickey Mouse
  844. @Geptto Thanks for the link
  845.        
  846. 15:32
  847. Mickey Mouse
  848. Yw
  849.        
  850. 15:32
  851. Mickey Mouse
  852. converted to pdf is 41 pages. I did that in case the site disappears.
  853.        
  854. 15:33
  855. Mickey Mouse
  856. Thanks Geptto
  857.        
  858. 15:33
  859. Mickey Mouse
  860. yw Abu
  861.        
  862. 15:34
  863. Mickey Mouse
  864. @GepttoP I've extracted the text from the site and saved as plain text file
  865.        
  866. 15:35
  867. Mickey Mouse
  868. I use Evernote to grab this web pages and catalog them for later. Gets all the text on the page.
  869.        
  870. 15:35
  871. Mickey Mouse
  872. I use evernote too but wasn't sure if it would capture any other code from the page. can you do a plain text cap with Evernote?
  873.        
  874. 15:36
  875. Mickey Mouse
  876. OWASP had test sites sql injection. not sure they are still up. https://www.owasp.org/
  877.        
  878. 15:36
  879. Mickey Mouse
  880. Evernote is awesome. Minnie is a smart cookie.
  881.        
  882. 15:36
  883. Mickey Mouse
  884. @Minnie Did you post the text?
  885.        
  886. 15:37
  887. Mickey Mouse
  888. thats cool
  889.        
  890. 15:37
  891. Mickey Mouse
  892. pastebin or forum?
  893.        
  894. 15:37
  895. Mickey Mouse
  896. You can do plain text capture with Evernote. Use it all the time.
  897.        
  898. 15:38
  899. Mickey Mouse
  900. @Athos how? I know I can strip out stuff with ctrl+space once captured - but how do you capture text only with no html code from webpage?
  901.        
  902. 15:39
  903. Mickey Mouse
  904. Use the web clipper app in your browser and then just select Simplified text from the capture menu.
  905.        
  906. 15:40
  907. Mickey Mouse
  908. It does not *always* work depending on the page but at least 90+
  909.        
  910. 15:41
  911. Mickey Mouse
  912. That would be the Evernote web clipper app in the toolbar.
  913.        
  914. 15:41
  915. Mickey Mouse
  916. Hmm, firefox add in doesn;t appear to have that simplified text option - will play around later
  917.        
  918. 15:41
  919. Mickey Mouse
  920. I use Safari, may be different.
  921.        
  922. 15:42
  923. Mickey Mouse
  924. That is the most powerful user is schema admin
  925.        
  926. 15:42
  927. Mickey Mouse
  928. Can sql be stopped by just checking for "regular expressions" (RegEx) ?
  929.        
  930. 15:42
  931. Mickey Mouse
  932. ^^
  933.        
  934. 15:43
  935. Mickey Mouse
  936. @Minnie and Athos Thanks for the info
  937.        
  938. 15:44
  939. Mickey Mouse
  940. Afternoon all
  941.        
  942. 15:44
  943. Mickey Mouse
  944. Hi Jafar
  945.        
  946. 15:45
  947. Mickey Mouse
  948. @Porthos - you got your stream back?
  949.        
  950. 15:45
  951. Mickey Mouse
  952. Hello Jafar
  953.        
  954. 15:45
  955. Mickey Mouse
  956. Hi Jafar
  957.        
  958. 15:45
  959. Mickey Mouse
  960. Hi Jafar
  961.        
  962. 15:46
  963. Mickey Mouse
  964. Chrome supports the simplified text capture as well, at least on OS X...
  965.        
  966. 15:47
  967. Mickey Mouse
  968. If I remember correctly evernote started it's plugins on chrome then expanded out
  969.        
  970. 15:47
  971. Mickey Mouse
  972. SO in theory, Chrome will have the most up to date features
  973.        
  974. 15:47
  975. Mickey Mouse
  976. Using Parameter checking on object types helps mitigate it. Or using Object Relational Mappers like Entity Framework and Hibernate to name a few
  977.        
  978. 15:47
  979. Mickey Mouse
  980. Hey Everyone!!!
  981.        
  982. 15:47
  983. Mickey Mouse
  984. @Donald - What programming language would you consider a good start for this industry. Currently, I've been working on Python (because you can do some amazing things with python + powershell), however, my boss wants me to focus on security now. I hear you on SQL.... which I hate with a passion lol.... but how would you rate the usefulness in Python in what you do?
  985.        
  986. 15:48
  987. Mickey Mouse
  988. i settled on learning python
  989.        
  990. 15:48
  991. Mickey Mouse
  992. Python is a good jump start and a LOT of hacking tools are born from it
  993.        
  994. 15:48
  995. Mickey Mouse
  996. Was evernote the one steve gibson moaned about and then leo got paranoid about and stopped using? lol
  997.        
  998. 15:49
  999. Mickey Mouse
  1000. @Jafar if so I missed that episode!
  1001.        
  1002. 15:49
  1003. Mickey Mouse
  1004. I mean evernote is all in the cloud.... so... wouldn't be surprised... but if it is something you plan to be sharing it's obviously the way to go
  1005.        
  1006. 15:50
  1007. Mickey Mouse
  1008. There was a flaw. What they moaned about was keeping CC Numbers, Social Security Numbers and Tax returns in it
  1009.        
  1010. 15:51
  1011. Mickey Mouse
  1012. .... why would anyone do that... tsk tsk
  1013.        
  1014. 15:51
  1015. Mickey Mouse
  1016. @Scrooge that seems like it is not a good idea in whatever app you use
  1017.        
  1018. 15:51
  1019. Mickey Mouse
  1020. Thanks guys for the input for my question
  1021.        
  1022. 15:52
  1023. Mickey Mouse
  1024. @Minnie https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/36106-steve-gibson-trashes-evernotes-security/
  1025.        
  1026. 15:52
  1027. Mickey Mouse
  1028. This is a good baseline if you want to maximise on time: http://www.amazon.com/SQL-Learn-DataBase-Programming-hours-ebook/dp/B00OICN7UG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1427986312&sr=8-5&keywords=database+development
  1029.        
  1030. 15:53
  1031. Mickey Mouse
  1032. Thanks guys enjoy lunch
  1033.        
  1034. 15:53
  1035. Mickey Mouse
  1036. 64bit encryption.... WHAT?!
  1037.        
  1038. 15:53
  1039. Mickey Mouse
  1040. Make them get you a steak for your birthday lunch
  1041.        
  1042. 15:53
  1043. Mickey Mouse
  1044. Let the games begin!
  1045.        
  1046. 15:54
  1047. Mickey Mouse
  1048. My bread and butter for 16 years
  1049.        
  1050. 15:55
  1051. Mickey Mouse
  1052. Boomers are are gonna be rollling in.
  1053.        
  1054. 15:55
  1055. Mickey Mouse
  1056. @Jafar reading now...
  1057.        
  1058. 15:56
  1059. Mickey Mouse
  1060. Anyone know if that has changed in the past 2 years? I'd hope so!
  1061.        
  1062. 15:58
  1063. Mickey Mouse
  1064. AES 128
  1065.        
  1066. 15:58
  1067. Mickey Mouse
  1068. https://evernote.com/contact/support/kb/#!/article/23480996
  1069.        
  1070. 15:59
  1071. Mickey Mouse
  1072. Gibson knows his stuff!
  1073.        
  1074. 16:00
  1075. Mickey Mouse
  1076. Evernote has 2FA now. It's been implemented for some time now.
  1077.        
  1078. 16:00
  1079. Mickey Mouse
  1080. Yes, I turned that on as soon as they launched it
  1081.        
  1082. 16:01
  1083. Mickey Mouse
  1084. I really enjoy listening to Steve Gibson, he gets really excited about some of the topics he talks about
  1085.        
  1086. 16:01
  1087. Mickey Mouse
  1088. @Aladdin Agreed. SOme is really too techie for me but his enthusiasm for his subject makes it interesting
  1089.        
  1090. 16:01
  1091. Mickey Mouse
  1092. I'm back, long reboot
  1093.        
  1094. 16:01
  1095. Mickey Mouse
  1096. @Louie thanks for link
  1097.        
  1098. 16:01
  1099. Mickey Mouse
  1100. @Aladdin: Its a great show
  1101.        
  1102. 16:01
  1103. Mickey Mouse
  1104. Evernote updated the security model shortly after Steve ranted on SN about it, justified rant. That made them take notice.
  1105.        
  1106. 16:01
  1107. Mickey Mouse
  1108. Welcome back Porthos, hope stream sticks for you this time
  1109.        
  1110. 16:02
  1111. Mickey Mouse
  1112. They disappeared
  1113.        
  1114. 16:02
  1115. Mickey Mouse
  1116. I just love it when Steve roast ppl alive!
  1117.        
  1118. 16:02
  1119. Mickey Mouse
  1120. ah... it's getting serious mode now. Aramis's got a dew
  1121.        
  1122. 16:03
  1123. Mickey Mouse
  1124. 2FA is obviously good, but in my experience people in their day to day workings just wont want it cause they have to do something *extra* and they dont want to.
  1125.        
  1126. 16:04
  1127. Mickey Mouse
  1128. i use it on everything I can... Most @FA implementation work with the google authenticator app on my phone as well
  1129.        
  1130. 16:04
  1131. Mickey Mouse
  1132. The people at TWiT have some really great hosts on their shows.
  1133.        
  1134. 16:04
  1135. Mickey Mouse
  1136. Manged to Crash VMWorkstaion taking out my PC  so full reboot
  1137.        
  1138. 16:04
  1139. Mickey Mouse
  1140. the amount of places i go and people are running their day to day machine as admin, and when i take them out of that group and turn UAC on, within a week they are moaning
  1141.        
  1142. 16:04
  1143. Mickey Mouse
  1144. https://blog.evernote.com/blog/2013/05/30/evernotes-three-new-security-features/
  1145.        
  1146. 16:04
  1147. Mickey Mouse
  1148. @Minnie, @Porthos: that read like you wanted his stream to stop working hehe
  1149.        
  1150. 16:04
  1151. Mickey Mouse
  1152. Amazingly I didn't start the coffee this morning.
  1153.        
  1154. 16:04
  1155. Mickey Mouse
  1156. @Aramis have to broken for lunch now?
  1157.        
  1158. 16:04
  1159. Mickey Mouse
  1160. hmm. they didn't take me out for my birthday this week. heh
  1161.        
  1162. 16:04
  1163. Mickey Mouse
  1164. I'm drinking less and less of it.
  1165.        
  1166. 16:04
  1167. Mickey Mouse
  1168. Ha ha Donald
  1169.        
  1170. 16:05
  1171. Mickey Mouse
  1172. Airplane mode only turns off OS but not the baseband.
  1173.        
  1174. 16:06
  1175. Mickey Mouse
  1176. @Pinocchio I didn't mean it that way. British thing? stick as in stay
  1177.        
  1178. 16:06
  1179. Mickey Mouse
  1180. Is it a Holiday in US tomorrow
  1181.        
  1182. 16:06
  1183. Mickey Mouse
  1184. Porthos here to
  1185.        
  1186. 16:06
  1187. Mickey Mouse
  1188. Put your phone in a faraday cage.
  1189.        
  1190. 16:06
  1191. Mickey Mouse
  1192. and monday!! woohoo
  1193.        
  1194. 16:07
  1195. Mickey Mouse
  1196. I know @Minnie
  1197.        
  1198. 16:07
  1199. Mickey Mouse
  1200. Depends Porthos, typically not.
  1201.        
  1202. 16:07
  1203. Mickey Mouse
  1204. Sorry read that is IT IS a
  1205.        
  1206. 16:07
  1207. Mickey Mouse
  1208.  
  1209.        
  1210. 16:07
  1211. Mickey Mouse
  1212. sound?
  1213.        
  1214. 16:07
  1215. Mickey Mouse
  1216. Where did the audio go?
  1217.        
  1218. 16:07
  1219. Mickey Mouse
  1220. OH oh sound
  1221.        
  1222. 16:08
  1223. Mickey Mouse
  1224. It just dropped out.
  1225.        
  1226. 16:08
  1227. Mickey Mouse
  1228. Jason... stop messing with our minds
  1229.        
  1230. 16:08
  1231. Mickey Mouse
  1232. That was fast
  1233.        
  1234. 16:08
  1235. Mickey Mouse
  1236. My workplace will be closed tomorrow, but I'll probable come in to watch the last day of CEH.
  1237.        
  1238. 16:08
  1239. Mickey Mouse
  1240. Porthos where in UK are you?
  1241.        
  1242. 16:08
  1243. Mickey Mouse
  1244. ITPRO.tv must have been using wireless and was hacked??
  1245.        
  1246. 16:08
  1247. Mickey Mouse
  1248. Near London
  1249.        
  1250. 16:09
  1251. Mickey Mouse
  1252. lol
  1253.        
  1254. 16:09
  1255. Mickey Mouse
  1256. Did you hear about the big fire yesteray?
  1257.        
  1258. 16:09
  1259. Mickey Mouse
  1260. @Jafar You?
  1261.        
  1262. 16:09
  1263. Mickey Mouse
  1264. Underground power and other cables caught fire and half of london lost power!!
  1265.        
  1266. 16:10
  1267. Mickey Mouse
  1268. No thanks, they can keep it including their rental fees.
  1269.        
  1270. 16:10
  1271. Mickey Mouse
  1272. I have a client in holborn way, and they are not even allowed into their office
  1273.        
  1274. 16:11
  1275. Mickey Mouse
  1276. not good, It's still burning
  1277.        
  1278. 16:11
  1279. Mickey Mouse
  1280. they are just pumping water underground in the hopes they can put it out!!
  1281.        
  1282. 16:11
  1283. Mickey Mouse
  1284. Hi everyone, I've missed a fair bit of today. Have their been any practicals or is mainly just covering the concepts again?
  1285.        
  1286. 16:11
  1287. Mickey Mouse
  1288. @AramisP you're here for the good stuff. They did soem SQL injection
  1289.        
  1290. 16:11
  1291. Mickey Mouse
  1292. MickeyDs backbones off of ATT.
  1293.        
  1294. 16:11
  1295. Mickey Mouse
  1296. I hope our friends in London are ok.
  1297.        
  1298. 16:12
  1299. Mickey Mouse
  1300. Thought it was early for lunch lol
  1301.        
  1302. 16:12
  1303. Mickey Mouse
  1304. AC3200, I have a router that supports that.
  1305.        
  1306. 16:12
  1307. Mickey Mouse
  1308. Yeah thanks, they got evacuated quick;y
  1309.        
  1310. 16:12
  1311. Mickey Mouse
  1312. Turn on isolation mode
  1313.        
  1314. 16:12
  1315. Mickey Mouse
  1316. I was about 100 yards from there on tueday
  1317.        
  1318. 16:12
  1319. Mickey Mouse
  1320. Are they going to cover some examples/practicals though?
  1321.        
  1322. 16:12
  1323. Mickey Mouse
  1324. @AramisP Donald's got his kit behind him so I think so
  1325.        
  1326. 16:13
  1327. Mickey Mouse
  1328. OK thanks. I'm hoping we get into some detail.
  1329.        
  1330. 16:13
  1331. Mickey Mouse
  1332. LOL
  1333.        
  1334. 16:14
  1335. Mickey Mouse
  1336. an old nokia is all the tech I bring on holiday
  1337.        
  1338. 16:15
  1339. Mickey Mouse
  1340. @AramisP if you want detail I can strongly recommend VIvek's megaprimer: http://www.securitytube.net/groups?operation=view&groupId=9
  1341.        
  1342. 16:15
  1343. Mickey Mouse
  1344. Cars are being hacked nowadays
  1345.        
  1346. 16:15
  1347. Mickey Mouse
  1348. Superb thanks Minnie.
  1349.        
  1350. 16:16
  1351. Mickey Mouse
  1352. thanks Minnie
  1353.        
  1354. 16:17
  1355. Mickey Mouse
  1356. Municipal Wifi
  1357.        
  1358. 16:17
  1359. Mickey Mouse
  1360. Yeah all my devices are wired, only have wifi for phonnes
  1361.        
  1362. 16:17
  1363. Mickey Mouse
  1364. Wired and wireless here too. I still think wired best for online gaming
  1365.        
  1366. 16:17
  1367. Mickey Mouse
  1368. @Minnie How come you have all this info at your finger tips
  1369.        
  1370. 16:17
  1371. Mickey Mouse
  1372. some good stuff at http://www.elithecomputerguy.com/
  1373.        
  1374. 16:17
  1375. Mickey Mouse
  1376. I have both here.
  1377.        
  1378. 16:17
  1379. Mickey Mouse
  1380. I also have both wired and wireless
  1381.        
  1382. 16:17
  1383. Mickey Mouse
  1384. @. My mindmaps
  1385.        
  1386. 16:18
  1387. Mickey Mouse
  1388. I'm mostly wireless... the only thing wired are my servers
  1389.        
  1390. 16:18
  1391. Mickey Mouse
  1392.  
  1393.        
  1394. 16:18
  1395. Mickey Mouse
  1396. @Pinocchio thanks
  1397.        
  1398. 16:18
  1399. Mickey Mouse
  1400. The biggest joke is that if you have BT internet the router then send you has a public wifi enabled by default, and the worst part is that you cannot disable it on the device! you hvae to phone BT!!
  1401.        
  1402. 16:18
  1403. Mickey Mouse
  1404. Comcast does the same crap.
  1405.        
  1406. 16:18
  1407. Mickey Mouse
  1408. @Louie My network is a hybrid as well
  1409.        
  1410. 16:19
  1411. Mickey Mouse
  1412. Geptto, it should be ilegal!!
  1413.        
  1414. 16:19
  1415. Mickey Mouse
  1416. So basically anyone with a BT openzone account can sit outside my house and use my wifi!!
  1417.        
  1418. 16:19
  1419. Mickey Mouse
  1420. I would think so. That is why I don't have any of their equipment. I have my own.
  1421.        
  1422. 16:20
  1423. Mickey Mouse
  1424. @Geptto forgive me but who is BT?
  1425.        
  1426. 16:20
  1427. Mickey Mouse
  1428. You can tell them to disable the wireless - I did
  1429.        
  1430. 16:20
  1431. Mickey Mouse
  1432. Britiah telecom
  1433.        
  1434. 16:20
  1435. Mickey Mouse
  1436. @GepttoP British Telecom is our major infrastructure provider of connectivity in the UK
  1437.        
  1438. 16:20
  1439. Mickey Mouse
  1440. Thanks
  1441.        
  1442. 16:20
  1443. Mickey Mouse
  1444. Just like Rogers in Canada.
  1445.        
  1446. 16:21
  1447. Mickey Mouse
  1448. Yeah i dont use their router either, but 90% of users do
  1449.        
  1450. 16:21
  1451. Mickey Mouse
  1452. 802.AD 60Ghz spectrium
  1453.        
  1454. 16:21
  1455. Mickey Mouse
  1456. Well i dont use it for routing, its just a wifi point
  1457.        
  1458. 16:22
  1459. Mickey Mouse
  1460. @Donald what about wi-fi cities? is that a big thing in the US? increasingly so here
  1461.        
  1462. 16:22
  1463. Mickey Mouse
  1464. ... i'm a moron... trying to pint.. .think I have a hung document... try to kill it... doesn't wrok.. .restart print spooler service... try again... no joy... chekc printer... out of paper
  1465.        
  1466. 16:22
  1467. Mickey Mouse
  1468. @Minnie: cant do mind maps. acronyms all the way
  1469.        
  1470. 16:22
  1471. Mickey Mouse
  1472. so saying that, it wont work on openzone, but still you get the point  lol
  1473.        
  1474. 16:22
  1475. Mickey Mouse
  1476. @Minnie yes increasing here too
  1477.        
  1478. 16:22
  1479. Mickey Mouse
  1480. Subnet/vlan will help to secure them.
  1481.        
  1482. 16:23
  1483. Mickey Mouse
  1484. 802.11AD
  1485.        
  1486. 16:23
  1487. Mickey Mouse
  1488. Cable companies here are selling wifi phones to compete with telcoms
  1489.        
  1490. 16:23
  1491. Mickey Mouse
  1492. is the next gen
  1493.        
  1494. 16:23
  1495. Mickey Mouse
  1496. Minnie you mean 4G in london?
  1497.        
  1498. 16:24
  1499. Mickey Mouse
  1500. Does 802.11AD have any advantages over AC?
  1501.        
  1502. 16:24
  1503. Mickey Mouse
  1504. @Jafar No. I mean local councils making deals with providers to provide public wi-fi in their town centres
  1505.        
  1506. 16:24
  1507. Mickey Mouse
  1508. The broaden the speed and channel bonding to cover 60ghz.
  1509.        
  1510. 16:24
  1511. Mickey Mouse
  1512. ahh
  1513.        
  1514. 16:25
  1515. Mickey Mouse
  1516. those are lab control conditions
  1517.        
  1518. 16:25
  1519. Mickey Mouse
  1520. Radio is a black art
  1521.        
  1522. 16:25
  1523. Mickey Mouse
  1524. I noticed that the encryption was the same for 802.11n with 802.11ac but direct beaming might be a bit helpful
  1525.        
  1526. 16:26
  1527. Mickey Mouse
  1528. There is also paint that you can use to block signals leaving your location.
  1529.        
  1530. 16:27
  1531. Mickey Mouse
  1532. @Geptto O I didn't know about that stuff
  1533.        
  1534. 16:27
  1535. Mickey Mouse
  1536. need that paint.
  1537.        
  1538. 16:27
  1539. Mickey Mouse
  1540. Also keeps signals from coming in. Good luck with your cell phone
  1541.        
  1542. 16:27
  1543. Mickey Mouse
  1544. just don't use it on internal walls.
  1545.        
  1546. 16:27
  1547. Mickey Mouse
  1548. Oh, yeah. There is crazy stuff.
  1549.        
  1550. 16:27
  1551. Mickey Mouse
  1552. I used to work at a design studio in london, and used a paint with iron filingsin it so they could use magnets and put drawings on the wall, that killed signals pretty dam good! lol
  1553.        
  1554. 16:28
  1555. Mickey Mouse
  1556. @Geptto what material does the paint use for shielding?
  1557.        
  1558. 16:28
  1559. Mickey Mouse
  1560. Do you paint the windows too???
  1561.        
  1562. 16:28
  1563. Mickey Mouse
  1564. I don't remember the particulars right now. It's expensive though.
  1565.        
  1566. 16:28
  1567. Mickey Mouse
  1568. Oh this wasnt on purpose at all,
  1569.        
  1570. 16:28
  1571. Mickey Mouse
  1572. Lots of those paints plus the window film are illegal to use in the US without a federal permit usually for national security reasons
  1573.        
  1574. 16:29
  1575. Mickey Mouse
  1576. lol figures.
  1577.        
  1578. 16:29
  1579. Mickey Mouse
  1580. "land of the free"
  1581.        
  1582. 16:29
  1583. Mickey Mouse
  1584. wow
  1585.        
  1586. 16:29
  1587. Mickey Mouse
  1588. Thats like a SCIF room.
  1589.        
  1590. 16:29
  1591. Mickey Mouse
  1592. Main reason is it blocks cell phones which is a 911 issue here
  1593.        
  1594. 16:30
  1595. Mickey Mouse
  1596. now what did the world do before cell phones i wonder.......
  1597.        
  1598. 16:30
  1599. Mickey Mouse
  1600. Calls to Emergency Medical/Police for those outside the US
  1601.        
  1602. 16:30
  1603. Mickey Mouse
  1604. Thanks Scrooge I never thought of the cell phone issue
  1605.        
  1606. 16:30
  1607. Mickey Mouse
  1608. There is a land line installed for thos problems.
  1609.        
  1610. 16:31
  1611. Mickey Mouse
  1612. Question: Did we discuss when seeing a device MAC address, determining the vendor of that equipment for possible exploits?
  1613.        
  1614. 16:31
  1615. Mickey Mouse
  1616. not yet Huey
  1617.        
  1618. 16:31
  1619. Mickey Mouse
  1620. The higher the frequencies the more its can affect the weather.
  1621.        
  1622. 16:31
  1623. Mickey Mouse
  1624. A movie theater put in suppressor for cell to keep phones from ringing during movies. He had a big fine for that one
  1625.        
  1626. 16:32
  1627. Mickey Mouse
  1628. lol
  1629.        
  1630. 16:32
  1631. Mickey Mouse
  1632. hmmm. i thought they all did that. heh
  1633.        
  1634. 16:32
  1635. Mickey Mouse
  1636. Reduces your power output
  1637.        
  1638. 16:32
  1639. Mickey Mouse
  1640. Anyone know of a good AC band AP ? I need one asap
  1641.        
  1642. 16:32
  1643. Mickey Mouse
  1644. Older construction methods are effective RF blockers and are legal.. Aluminum windows screens, plaster walls for example
  1645.        
  1646. 16:33
  1647. Mickey Mouse
  1648. Asus
  1649.        
  1650. 16:33
  1651. Mickey Mouse
  1652. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU8hg4FTm0g
  1653.        
  1654. 16:33
  1655. Mickey Mouse
  1656. Ch#14 is japan only
  1657.        
  1658. 16:34
  1659. Mickey Mouse
  1660. very intersting demo on cell phone blocking and stuff
  1661.        
  1662. 16:34
  1663. Mickey Mouse
  1664. @Geptto - Yeah I use ASUS APs (Well routers as APs)
  1665.        
  1666. 16:34
  1667. Mickey Mouse
  1668. 12 and 13 not US but ok for UK
  1669.        
  1670. 16:34
  1671. Mickey Mouse
  1672. Hmm, didn't think we could use 14 here - have to check that
  1673.        
  1674. 16:34
  1675. Mickey Mouse
  1676. @Minnie - the high numbers are good in the UK, as most manufacturers tend to keep the defaults to 1 or 6
  1677.        
  1678. 16:34
  1679. Mickey Mouse
  1680. 14 would be considered a super channel.
  1681.        
  1682. 16:34
  1683. Mickey Mouse
  1684. 14 is ok here I think
  1685.        
  1686. 16:35
  1687. Mickey Mouse
  1688. @Aramis P 14 is only allowed in japan
  1689.        
  1690. 16:35
  1691. Mickey Mouse
  1692. 1 6 and 11 are the only non overlapping channels if you are in a multi AP installation.
  1693.        
  1694. 16:35
  1695. Mickey Mouse
  1696. time to go wardriving
  1697.        
  1698. 16:35
  1699. Mickey Mouse
  1700. Ah just checked, you can use 14 in the UK for some governement work. Not home use
  1701.        
  1702. 16:35
  1703. Mickey Mouse
  1704. You must have seen the pineapple wifi device?
  1705.        
  1706. 16:35
  1707. Mickey Mouse
  1708. LOL Abu
  1709.        
  1710. 16:35
  1711. Mickey Mouse
  1712. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels
  1713.        
  1714. 16:36
  1715. Mickey Mouse
  1716. here is a decent overview of the channels and how to... audit if someone is doing it wrong: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUfLCko6GU4
  1717.        
  1718. 16:36
  1719. Mickey Mouse
  1720. pilots need to work for their jobs... make it a bit exciting for them? heh
  1721.        
  1722. 16:36
  1723. Mickey Mouse
  1724. ILS approach to your... AP?
  1725.        
  1726. 16:38
  1727. Mickey Mouse
  1728. @AramisP thanks
  1729.        
  1730. 16:38
  1731. Mickey Mouse
  1732. Lunch time?
  1733.        
  1734. 16:38
  1735. Mickey Mouse
  1736. enjoy lunch guys
  1737.        
  1738. 16:38
  1739. Mickey Mouse
  1740. Guys enjoy!
  1741.        
  1742. 16:39
  1743. Mickey Mouse
  1744. Missed that whole section, B****y networks and users
  1745.        
  1746. 16:39
  1747. Mickey Mouse
  1748. alright see you just in a bit
  1749.        
  1750. 16:39
  1751. Mickey Mouse
  1752. Enjoy birthday lunch
  1753.        
  1754. 16:39
  1755. Mickey Mouse
  1756. I'm out for a bit. Chow!
  1757.        
  1758. 16:39
  1759. Mickey Mouse
  1760. Don't get to drunk
  1761.        
  1762. 16:39
  1763. Mickey Mouse
  1764. Haha didnt know you had one there
  1765.        
  1766. 16:39
  1767. Mickey Mouse
  1768. @Porthos... it was mainly threory... you haven't missed the demos yest
  1769.        
  1770. 16:39
  1771. Mickey Mouse
  1772. didnt they used to be yellow?
  1773.        
  1774. 16:39
  1775. Mickey Mouse
  1776. OK cya all. I'm off now until after the weekend (bank holiday in the UK tomorrow) so enjoy the rest of the shows
  1777.        
  1778. 16:39
  1779. Mickey Mouse
  1780. @Porthos the content of the bit we just did is also covered here: http://www.securitytube.net/video/1757
  1781.        
  1782. 16:40
  1783. Mickey Mouse
  1784. UK chatroomers have a good break!
  1785.        
  1786. 16:40
  1787. Mickey Mouse
  1788. :Aramis P see you, have a good break!
  1789.        
  1790. 16:40
  1791. Mickey Mouse
  1792. bye Aramis!
  1793.        
  1794. 16:40
  1795. Mickey Mouse
  1796. Don;t get stuck in traffic
  1797.        
  1798. 16:40
  1799. Mickey Mouse
  1800. @Minnie thanks
  1801.        
  1802. 16:40
  1803. Mickey Mouse
  1804. bye Abu
  1805.        
  1806. 16:40
  1807. Mickey Mouse
  1808. @Minnie thanks
  1809.        
  1810. 16:40
  1811. Mickey Mouse
  1812. bye
  1813.        
  1814. 16:40
  1815. Mickey Mouse
  1816. wow... .that's a good commercial
  1817.        
  1818. 16:41
  1819. Mickey Mouse
  1820. right!
  1821.        
  1822. 16:41
  1823. Mickey Mouse
  1824. I'm excited
  1825.        
  1826. 16:42
  1827. Mickey Mouse
  1828. Yeah, I like their new commercial.
  1829.        
  1830. 16:44
  1831. Mickey Mouse
  1832. BRB, got to get the car home to my wife.
  1833.        
  1834. 16:44
  1835. Mickey Mouse
  1836. AFK - Back later
  1837.        
  1838. 16:46
  1839. Mickey Mouse
  1840. Question for all, what ( if any ) do you use for a home firewall/router? at the mo i use Sophos UTM but looking for something else, so would like to know if you use/recommend something else?
  1841.        
  1842. 16:47
  1843. Mickey Mouse
  1844. Clean URL for the SQL injection URL list: http://pastebin.com/CAA3zFV6
  1845.        
  1846. 16:48
  1847. Mickey Mouse
  1848. Thanks Minnie
  1849.        
  1850. 16:48
  1851. Mickey Mouse
  1852. @Minnie How many cert are going for
  1853.        
  1854. 16:48
  1855. Mickey Mouse
  1856. see ya later guys & girls
  1857.        
  1858. 16:49
  1859. Mickey Mouse
  1860. Bye Pinocchio
  1861.        
  1862. 16:49
  1863. Mickey Mouse
  1864. heading to lunch see you later
  1865.        
  1866. 17:07
  1867. Mickey Mouse
  1868. @. not sure I understand the question. I'm not intending to take CEH just yet but once I've got some practical experience under my belt I may well go for it later in the year
  1869.        
  1870. 17:14
  1871. Mickey Mouse
  1872. @.... I use a netbios at home. but I've ripped apart the fire wall rules and custom locked down everything I don't use... I also enforce time of day restrictions on things when it makes sense... aka streaming ports are blocked between 1am and 7am... because no one in my house has insomnia
  1873.        
  1874. 17:16
  1875. Mickey Mouse
  1876. ... also... I'm re-thinking my use of netbios because I've been noticing some symptoms on my network that are making me want to switch to a different firmware (ddwrt/tomato) and my model isn't supported. So I might recommend getting a more 'hackable model if you're just going to flash it anyway because the more hackable ones are easier to find new firmware to flash to.
  1877.        
  1878. 17:16
  1879. Mickey Mouse
  1880. hope that helps
  1881.        
  1882. 17:18
  1883. Mickey Mouse
  1884. Cool, thanks
  1885.        
  1886. 17:25
  1887. Mickey Mouse
  1888. I am seriously thinking of going to ddwrt or tomato myself but have not made the leap
  1889.        
  1890. 17:31
  1891. Mickey Mouse
  1892. @Bambi - ck ebay for a used Compatible unit and flash it. Of course, if you are really crazy you can do what a friend of mine did and buy a Meraki firewall for the house and pay for the security. He did that because with 3 girls and all the traffic he wanted to prioritize plus keep things out of the house. Expensive but very secure.
  1893.        
  1894. 17:43
  1895. Mickey Mouse
  1896. @Jafar: I'm really thinking of having a system with pfSense soon, which hopefully will be modern enough and easy to install.
  1897.        
  1898. 17:46
  1899. Mickey Mouse
  1900. Thanks for all the replies, Huey yeah a couple of people have mentioned PF sence
  1901.        
  1902. 17:48
  1903. Mickey Mouse
  1904. For those that asked for chat logs: http://bit.ly/itpro-CEH-chat which resolves to https://forums.itpro.tv/topic/351/ceh-chat-logs-privacy-and-links
  1905.        
  1906. 17:48
  1907. Mickey Mouse
  1908. Thanks Minnie!
  1909.        
  1910. 17:51
  1911. Mickey Mouse
  1912. Pfsense works very well. Used it a a client who had 150 employees. With Multiple NICS it handled the load. For a home situation it would be very good
  1913.        
  1914. 17:52
  1915. Mickey Mouse
  1916. I have a rather dated Provencia M50 firewall, which had to be licenced, and has a horrible Java web interface.
  1917.        
  1918. 17:53
  1919. Mickey Mouse
  1920. Provencia was bought out by IBM, which killed the older products for their new line.
  1921.        
  1922. 17:54
  1923. Mickey Mouse
  1924. The M50 runs a proprietary version of Redhat, so I'm thinking that switching to pfSense will work.
  1925.        
  1926. 17:54
  1927. Mickey Mouse
  1928. @Minnie thanks for taking into account the security of chat logs.
  1929.        
  1930. 17:54
  1931. Mickey Mouse
  1932. @Huey - Do you have multiple internet connections?
  1933.        
  1934. 17:55
  1935. Mickey Mouse
  1936. Dell bought out SonicWALL, which helped me revive a little TZ150 I use in my office.
  1937.        
  1938. 17:55
  1939. Mickey Mouse
  1940. At home I am on our service, a conventional DSL line.
  1941.        
  1942. 17:56
  1943. Mickey Mouse
  1944. I think if i went the dedicated device route i may grab a WatchGuard
  1945.        
  1946. 17:56
  1947. Mickey Mouse
  1948. In my office, I've split off most of my systems to a DSL line there, but have the corporate LAN as backup.
  1949.        
  1950. 17:56
  1951. Mickey Mouse
  1952. but dont think ill do that TBH
  1953.        
  1954. 17:56
  1955. Mickey Mouse
  1956. @Huey - Pretty straight forward and you can use an older PC
  1957.        
  1958. 17:57
  1959. Mickey Mouse
  1960. We had an older Watchguard on the corporate LAN that was replaced less than a year ago it was pretty nutty.
  1961.        
  1962. 17:58
  1963. Mickey Mouse
  1964. @Scrooge: I'll repurpose the M50, as it is based around a dual PIII.
  1965.        
  1966. 17:59
  1967. Mickey Mouse
  1968. I want to see what I can set up for internal interfaces, turn off NAT, etc.
  1969.        
  1970. 18:00
  1971. Mickey Mouse
  1972. when you say "older" what sort of timeframe is that? cause if it had anything older then 10X was not great
  1973.        
  1974. 18:01
  1975. Mickey Mouse
  1976. One of the familiar red external cases.
  1977.        
  1978. 18:01
  1979. Mickey Mouse
  1980. In fact we had a few replacements around, the was my boss's baby.
  1981.        
  1982. 18:02
  1983. Mickey Mouse
  1984. lol
  1985.        
  1986. 18:02
  1987. Mickey Mouse
  1988. *that* was...
  1989.        
  1990. 18:03
  1991. Mickey Mouse
  1992. My company mostly uses WG when a client needs a new firewall
  1993.        
  1994. 18:03
  1995. Mickey Mouse
  1996. I've got good plans for the home network, I just need to get moving on them.
  1997.        
  1998. 18:04
  1999. Mickey Mouse
  2000. What speed you have at home?
  2001.        
  2002. 18:04
  2003. Mickey Mouse
  2004. We replaced the Watchguard with a SonicWALL.
  2005.        
  2006. 18:04
  2007. Mickey Mouse
  2008. @Minnie Thanks for logs
  2009.        
  2010. 18:05
  2011. Mickey Mouse
  2012. 6Mbps, which is adequate at the moment.
  2013.        
  2014. 18:05
  2015. Mickey Mouse
  2016. @Abu @. yw
  2017.        
  2018. 18:05
  2019. Mickey Mouse
  2020. I've offered to test our GPON plans.
  2021.        
  2022. 18:06
  2023. Mickey Mouse
  2024. you get fiber home connections over there?
  2025.        
  2026. 18:06
  2027. Mickey Mouse
  2028. You know, untottled some I can see how the equipment handles it.
  2029.        
  2030. 18:06
  2031. Mickey Mouse
  2032. not to the door, but fiber to the nearest cabinet
  2033.        
  2034. 18:06
  2035. Mickey Mouse
  2036. *unthottled*
  2037.        
  2038. 18:07
  2039. Mickey Mouse
  2040. Stuff like that is just going in, us and competitors.
  2041.        
  2042. 18:08
  2043. Mickey Mouse
  2044. is that just in your area?
  2045.        
  2046. 18:09
  2047. Mickey Mouse
  2048. Yes, a rural environment.
  2049.        
  2050. 18:09
  2051. Mickey Mouse
  2052. ahh ok
  2053.        
  2054. 18:13
  2055. Mickey Mouse
  2056. What time they back onLine?
  2057.        
  2058. 18:14
  2059. Mickey Mouse
  2060. soon.
  2061.        
  2062. 18:14
  2063. Mickey Mouse
  2064. we're filing back now
  2065.        
  2066. 18:20
  2067. Mickey Mouse
  2068. 1:30
  2069.        
  2070. 18:21
  2071. Mickey Mouse
  2072. Me toggling the casting here.
  2073.        
  2074. 18:23
  2075. Mickey Mouse
  2076. Just caught up on the social engineering segment I missed. With the emphasis on security training and awareness I can highly recommend this book by Rebecca Herold: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Managing-Information-Security-Awareness-Training/dp/1439815453
  2077.        
  2078. 18:24
  2079. Mickey Mouse
  2080. @Donald you need to setup mame on your laptop
  2081.        
  2082. 18:28
  2083. Mickey Mouse
  2084. OK @Minnie... what do you do?!?
  2085.        
  2086. 18:28
  2087. Mickey Mouse
  2088. I have to know now?!?
  2089.        
  2090. 18:30
  2091. Mickey Mouse
  2092. Retail > IT support > Project management > Service transformation > Information Management/Records Management/Open data, Data Protection (Information governance) > Information Security Management
  2093.        
  2094. 18:30
  2095. Mickey Mouse
  2096. That's pretty much my path
  2097.        
  2098. 18:30
  2099. Mickey Mouse
  2100. Jebus Abuty!
  2101.        
  2102. 18:31
  2103. Mickey Mouse
  2104. You're gonna burn out! Or be the most awesome person ever! I was looking at that book and wondering about it. Thanks for the recommendation.
  2105.        
  2106. 18:32
  2107. Mickey Mouse
  2108. I'm back. My help desk has been keeping me busy today. Pineapple goodness!
  2109.        
  2110. 18:32
  2111. Mickey Mouse
  2112. Wow, I've got to remember to turn on sound too.
  2113.        
  2114. 18:32
  2115. Mickey Mouse
  2116. @Minnie do you cook as well?
  2117.        
  2118. 18:33
  2119. Mickey Mouse
  2120. Tell me about it Geptto, I've had those "distractions" too...
  2121.        
  2122. 18:33
  2123. Mickey Mouse
  2124. Thanks for the link, Minnie
  2125.        
  2126. 18:33
  2127. Mickey Mouse
  2128. @Abu I do but my husband is better
  2129.        
  2130. 18:33
  2131. Mickey Mouse
  2132. @Abu... that said.. .her husband is a 5 start chef
  2133.        
  2134. 18:33
  2135. Mickey Mouse
  2136. *star
  2137.        
  2138. 18:34
  2139. Mickey Mouse
  2140. LOL food network diners driveins and dives great show!
  2141.        
  2142. 18:34
  2143. Mickey Mouse
  2144. I now how you feel Geptto. Today has been slow but yesterday my phone was always ringing
  2145.        
  2146. 18:34
  2147. Mickey Mouse
  2148. @Bambi It really is excellent. I think the success I had with training and awareness in my last role owed much to Rebecca's book
  2149.        
  2150. 18:35
  2151. Mickey Mouse
  2152. @Daisy yw @Louie LOL, he wishes
  2153.        
  2154. 18:35
  2155. Mickey Mouse
  2156. @Bambi how about you, what do you do?
  2157.        
  2158. 18:35
  2159. Mickey Mouse
  2160. @Geptto, @Aladdin: I wish they would leave me alone from "work"
  2161.        
  2162. 18:35
  2163. Mickey Mouse
  2164. @Louie I missed that
  2165.        
  2166. 18:36
  2167. Mickey Mouse
  2168. Information Security Specialist at Mount Sinai Health System
  2169.        
  2170. 18:36
  2171. Mickey Mouse
  2172. We have 4900 members and I'm the only one working it since I took over.
  2173.        
  2174. 18:36
  2175. Mickey Mouse
  2176. Oh wait.. that's... you were talking to.
  2177.        
  2178. 18:37
  2179. Mickey Mouse
  2180. She isn't as clear cut... You'll have to wait for her to answer lol
  2181.        
  2182. 18:38
  2183. Mickey Mouse
  2184. @Geptto ouch
  2185.        
  2186. 18:39
  2187. Mickey Mouse
  2188. Just looked @ our records. it's 4,681 across 245 chapters.
  2189.        
  2190. 18:39
  2191. Mickey Mouse
  2192. oh wait... my attention to detail is off... you did want... arg.... I need to eat something.
  2193.        
  2194. 18:39
  2195. Mickey Mouse
  2196. @Louie is it you responsible for the additional LinkedIn profiles hits this past week then
  2197.        
  2198. 18:39
  2199. Mickey Mouse
  2200. lol no... i try not to share direct links... make people do something
  2201.        
  2202. 18:40
  2203. Mickey Mouse
  2204. but if y7ou image here is the same one for linkedin..... it makes it easy
  2205.        
  2206. 18:40
  2207. Mickey Mouse
  2208. Who has a linkedin profile. I have one too.
  2209.        
  2210. 18:40
  2211. Mickey Mouse
  2212. I was about to connect on linkedin Minnie - but that was before i had chat so it would have been totally anonymous... lol
  2213.        
  2214. 18:40
  2215. Mickey Mouse
  2216. Not everyone's linked in is as locked down as your's Minnie
  2217.        
  2218. 18:40
  2219. Mickey Mouse
  2220. I guess that's another way we can "link": Through LinkedIn
  2221.        
  2222. 18:41
  2223. Mickey Mouse
  2224. I don't think it's that locked down Louie
  2225.        
  2226. 18:41
  2227. Mickey Mouse
  2228. My profile hasn't been updated much.
  2229.        
  2230. 18:41
  2231. Mickey Mouse
  2232. I have mines open I want employers to find me.
  2233.        
  2234. 18:42
  2235. Mickey Mouse
  2236. I ignore requests with no text generally
  2237.        
  2238. 18:42
  2239. Mickey Mouse
  2240. I have 2fa on my linkedin.
  2241.        
  2242. 18:43
  2243. Mickey Mouse
  2244. @Geptto that's fair enough - although you could have it locked and use the premium version for ashort time to get hits. I also use the 2fa
  2245.        
  2246. 18:43
  2247. Mickey Mouse
  2248. that make sense. also if you aren't linked at all, you cannot view your profile
  2249.        
  2250. 18:43
  2251. Mickey Mouse
  2252. Got to jump my work truck, BRB.
  2253.        
  2254. 18:44
  2255. Mickey Mouse
  2256. Is audio still muted?
  2257.        
  2258. 18:44
  2259. Mickey Mouse
  2260. No
  2261.        
  2262. 18:44
  2263. Mickey Mouse
  2264. it's quiet but it is on
  2265.        
  2266. 18:45
  2267. Mickey Mouse
  2268. I turned on 2fa on everything I can.
  2269.        
  2270. 18:45
  2271. Mickey Mouse
  2272. Thanks
  2273.        
  2274. 18:46
  2275. Mickey Mouse
  2276. @Geptto Yeah, likewise. I was quite unimpressed with Huddle who claim to be a corporate tool yet have no 2fa available
  2277.        
  2278. 18:46
  2279. Mickey Mouse
  2280. Huh? Huddle never messed w/ them.
  2281.        
  2282. 18:47
  2283. Mickey Mouse
  2284. Another cloud storage provider. UK gov quite fond of, at least one of our cabinet ministers was
  2285.        
  2286. 18:47
  2287. Mickey Mouse
  2288. think of it as sharepoint lite
  2289.        
  2290. 18:47
  2291. Mickey Mouse
  2292. To our stations!
  2293.        
  2294. 18:48
  2295. Mickey Mouse
  2296. Ah, I see.
  2297.        
  2298. 18:49
  2299. Mickey Mouse
  2300. that's what happens when you're late!
  2301.        
  2302. 18:50
  2303. Mickey Mouse
  2304. Warp core overloads
  2305.        
  2306. 18:50
  2307. Mickey Mouse
  2308. I have one
  2309.        
  2310. 18:50
  2311. Mickey Mouse
  2312. Will have to turn on one of the wifi into monitor mode on the pineapple.
  2313.        
  2314. 18:50
  2315. Mickey Mouse
  2316. rip majel... she was a good computer voice.
  2317.        
  2318. 18:51
  2319. Mickey Mouse
  2320. Watch the lights dim when Donald powers up his toys
  2321.        
  2322. 18:52
  2323. Mickey Mouse
  2324. What Don didn't tell you guys he was pentesting you?
  2325.        
  2326. 18:53
  2327. Mickey Mouse
  2328. I'm back.
  2329.        
  2330. 18:53
  2331. Mickey Mouse
  2332. Oh dear... someone nearby using WEP on their wifi
  2333.        
  2334. 18:54
  2335. Mickey Mouse
  2336. Geptto half of Florida goes dark when he turns them on
  2337.        
  2338. 18:54
  2339. Mickey Mouse
  2340. no one around here.... there is an open signal..... but not wep
  2341.        
  2342. 18:54
  2343. Mickey Mouse
  2344. why do they still offer wep
  2345.        
  2346. 18:54
  2347. Mickey Mouse
  2348. How about computer security in the Star Trek Series as an academic paper.
  2349.        
  2350. 18:54
  2351. Mickey Mouse
  2352. ... that could be interesting Scrooge
  2353.        
  2354. 18:54
  2355. Mickey Mouse
  2356. @Aladdin LOL
  2357.        
  2358. 18:54
  2359. Mickey Mouse
  2360. Please knock the power out for the Florida telemarketers
  2361.        
  2362. 18:55
  2363. Mickey Mouse
  2364. @Scrooge That's such a great idea that I wonder if someone's done it already
  2365.        
  2366. 18:56
  2367. Mickey Mouse
  2368. Be a big hit a security conference
  2369.        
  2370. 18:56
  2371. Mickey Mouse
  2372. Awesome!
  2373.        
  2374. 18:56
  2375. Mickey Mouse
  2376. Does anyone know whether Closed Captions is available on the Live Stream?
  2377.        
  2378. 18:56
  2379. Mickey Mouse
  2380. http://software-security.sans.org/downloads/appsec-2014-files/what-star-trek-tng-can-teach-us-about-the-future-of-computer-security-rsnake-hansen.pdf
  2381.        
  2382. 18:56
  2383. Mickey Mouse
  2384. "Data" generates a 256-bit encryption key on the fly.
  2385.        
  2386. 18:57
  2387. Mickey Mouse
  2388. http://hakshop.myshopify.com/collections/gadgets http://hakshop.myshopify.com/collections/wifi-pineapple-kits
  2389.        
  2390. 18:57
  2391. Mickey Mouse
  2392. M, we are just beginning to roll out CC for our recorded content library, so getting something for the live stream isn't on our radar right now
  2393.        
  2394. 18:57
  2395. Mickey Mouse
  2396. for those who still don't know... that';s also the birthplace of the usb rubber ducky
  2397.        
  2398. 18:57
  2399. Mickey Mouse
  2400. thanks
  2401.        
  2402. 18:57
  2403. Mickey Mouse
  2404. Wonder if the presentation that goes with those slides is on youtube somewhere...
  2405.        
  2406. 18:58
  2407. Mickey Mouse
  2408. Glad to hear that, Hercules
  2409.        
  2410. 18:58
  2411. Mickey Mouse
  2412. Live Closed-Captioning is a challenge.
  2413.        
  2414. 18:58
  2415. Mickey Mouse
  2416. The ducky & pineapple were just projects.
  2417.        
  2418. 18:59
  2419. Mickey Mouse
  2420. @Scrooge Ah, not sure there is one, looks like it was done in jest but it would be very cool
  2421.        
  2422. 18:59
  2423. Mickey Mouse
  2424. Voice-to-text is getting more accurate, but not close to 100%.
  2425.        
  2426. 19:00
  2427. Mickey Mouse
  2428. For me Dragon is the best. Even on the keyboards on Android
  2429.        
  2430. 19:00
  2431. Mickey Mouse
  2432. @Geptto... i would love the hack van
  2433.        
  2434. 19:01
  2435. Mickey Mouse
  2436. @Will those are some cool dudes/dudettes there.
  2437.        
  2438. 19:02
  2439. Mickey Mouse
  2440. Still happens today
  2441.        
  2442. 19:03
  2443. Mickey Mouse
  2444. @Geptto voice commands on droid galaxy 5 phone pretty accurate
  2445.        
  2446. 19:04
  2447. Mickey Mouse
  2448. @Abu are you talking google or samsung recognition
  2449.        
  2450. 19:04
  2451. Mickey Mouse
  2452. marketing tactics = No lies!
  2453.        
  2454. 19:04
  2455. Mickey Mouse
  2456. @Louie I guess that would be Samsung?
  2457.        
  2458. 19:04
  2459. Mickey Mouse
  2460. People LOVE to test the limits of what they can do over wireless.
  2461.        
  2462. 19:05
  2463. Mickey Mouse
  2464. expensive no joke! I paid a lot of $ for R8000
  2465.        
  2466. 19:06
  2467. Mickey Mouse
  2468. $300?
  2469.        
  2470. 19:06
  2471. Mickey Mouse
  2472. i hate wimax! I had to support that.
  2473.        
  2474. 19:06
  2475. Mickey Mouse
  2476. @Daisy close.
  2477.        
  2478. 19:06
  2479. Mickey Mouse
  2480. There is no difference using 802.11ac security wise except for the signal beaming
  2481.        
  2482. 19:06
  2483. Mickey Mouse
  2484. I have an AC gigabit router... mine was $200 It an asus
  2485.        
  2486. 19:07
  2487. Mickey Mouse
  2488. Asus just came out with AC3200. I'd sell the R8000 as long as I can load Tomato on it.
  2489.        
  2490. 19:07
  2491. Mickey Mouse
  2492. I got an AC router for ~70
  2493.        
  2494. 19:07
  2495. Mickey Mouse
  2496. I thought about getting the one you mentioned, but I liked the asus, and didn't want to spend too much more at that time
  2497.        
  2498. 19:08
  2499. Mickey Mouse
  2500. @Daisy Good deal and not to get the R8000 and stay w/ Asus...
  2501.        
  2502. 19:08
  2503. Mickey Mouse
  2504. Personally Daisy... I would go with the asus
  2505.        
  2506. 19:08
  2507. Mickey Mouse
  2508. : )
  2509.        
  2510. 19:09
  2511. Mickey Mouse
  2512. and when time warner started charging for their cable modems, I bought my own. I'm not paying them rent for a modem.
  2513.        
  2514. 19:09
  2515. Mickey Mouse
  2516. Kismet is a nice wireless tool
  2517.        
  2518. 19:09
  2519. Mickey Mouse
  2520. I did, Louie... bought it in January, I think.
  2521.        
  2522. 19:09
  2523. Mickey Mouse
  2524. @Daisy Yep,
  2525.        
  2526. 19:09
  2527. Mickey Mouse
  2528. nice
  2529.        
  2530. 19:10
  2531. Mickey Mouse
  2532. @Abu, kismet is, as I currently know, the best way to capture btbb packets
  2533.        
  2534. 19:10
  2535. Mickey Mouse
  2536. That's cause it's bridged.
  2537.        
  2538. 19:10
  2539. Mickey Mouse
  2540. Did you see this from the other day? scan visualiser for airodump-ng http://hackoftheday.securitytube.net/2015/03/airodump-ng-scan-visualizer-ver-01.html
  2541.        
  2542. 19:10
  2543. Mickey Mouse
  2544. wifi though.... it's a preference at this point
  2545.        
  2546. 19:10
  2547. Mickey Mouse
  2548. I prefer aircrack-ng
  2549.        
  2550. 19:11
  2551. Mickey Mouse
  2552. Netgear wireleass ap is my favorite
  2553.        
  2554. 19:11
  2555. Mickey Mouse
  2556. Thanks Louie
  2557.        
  2558. 19:11
  2559. Mickey Mouse
  2560. Has anyone had a good experience with Ubiquiti APs?
  2561.        
  2562. 19:11
  2563. Mickey Mouse
  2564. I didn't see that Minnie but it's a good link. thanks
  2565.        
  2566. 19:11
  2567. Mickey Mouse
  2568. Or bad for that matter
  2569.        
  2570. 19:11
  2571. Mickey Mouse
  2572. lol
  2573.        
  2574. 19:11
  2575. Mickey Mouse
  2576. SDR based wireless rough ap anyone?
  2577.        
  2578. 19:12
  2579. Mickey Mouse
  2580. Or in the case of UK government ministers it could be they don't want to follow policy Mr Francis Maude
  2581.        
  2582. 19:12
  2583. Mickey Mouse
  2584. Who also held the portfolio for cybersecurity - ironic much
  2585.        
  2586. 19:13
  2587. Mickey Mouse
  2588. @Jafar - use have some Ubiquiti's here in the studio. They were rock solid for a year or two...and then one day they just kept dropping the signal.
  2589.        
  2590. 19:13
  2591. Mickey Mouse
  2592. Gotta catch em all
  2593.        
  2594. 19:13
  2595. Mickey Mouse
  2596. Mmmm, very easy to set up a travel router to mimic a location.
  2597.        
  2598. 19:14
  2599. Mickey Mouse
  2600. winnie the pooh?
  2601.        
  2602. 19:14
  2603. Mickey Mouse
  2604. @Hercules Did firmware cause or fix issue or did you end up just scraping them?
  2605.        
  2606. 19:14
  2607. Mickey Mouse
  2608. and Tigger Too!!
  2609.        
  2610. 19:15
  2611. Mickey Mouse
  2612. Flue has a decent WP on rogue AP detection http://www.fDueynetworks.com/content/Locating-rogue-802.11-Aps-Whitepaper-web
  2613.        
  2614. 19:15
  2615. Mickey Mouse
  2616. *FDuey
  2617.        
  2618. 19:15
  2619. Mickey Mouse
  2620. @ Scrooge lol
  2621.        
  2622. 19:15
  2623. Mickey Mouse
  2624. not that I would know this... but all 2wirexxx/ATTxxx default PSKs are ten digit numbers
  2625.        
  2626. 19:15
  2627. Mickey Mouse
  2628. It's a matter of mac addresses
  2629.        
  2630. 19:15
  2631. Mickey Mouse
  2632. Nice. Thanks, Jafar
  2633.        
  2634. 19:16
  2635. Mickey Mouse
  2636. @Daisy you're most welcome
  2637.        
  2638. 19:16
  2639. Mickey Mouse
  2640. @Jafar thanks, adding to list
  2641.        
  2642. 19:17
  2643. Mickey Mouse
  2644. @Minnie you bet
  2645.        
  2646. 19:17
  2647. Mickey Mouse
  2648. Thanks Jafar will have to read later
  2649.        
  2650. 19:17
  2651. Mickey Mouse
  2652. @Jafar - we still use them for guest and other use networks, but Ronnie Wong setup a Cisco AP that we use primarily.
  2653.        
  2654. 19:18
  2655. Mickey Mouse
  2656. Mmmmm, donuts.
  2657.        
  2658. 19:18
  2659. Mickey Mouse
  2660. @Hercules. Yea, we use all Cisco APs too, They have been rock solid. It would be nice to have an secondary option that was as reliable at a better price point.
  2661.        
  2662. 19:19
  2663. Mickey Mouse
  2664. lol Huey
  2665.        
  2666. 19:19
  2667. Mickey Mouse
  2668. I'm channeling Homer.
  2669.        
  2670. 19:19
  2671. Mickey Mouse
  2672. Sure Aramis. Nice try
  2673.        
  2674. 19:20
  2675. Mickey Mouse
  2676. a friend of mine has an old (I'll bet it's 20 feet across) satellite dish. Not in use - but I bet it would still pick up signals.
  2677.        
  2678. 19:20
  2679. Mickey Mouse
  2680. I still can't work chopsticks lol
  2681.        
  2682. 19:21
  2683. Mickey Mouse
  2684. cisco class
  2685.        
  2686. 19:21
  2687. Mickey Mouse
  2688. Everyone else saw Megan of TWiT demonstrate the "Meerkat Hat" yesterday?....
  2689.        
  2690. 19:21
  2691. Mickey Mouse
  2692. yaggi
  2693.        
  2694. 19:22
  2695. Mickey Mouse
  2696. Or the new iPhone app where you put the phone in your mouth to have it read your caloric intake?
  2697.        
  2698. 19:22
  2699. Mickey Mouse
  2700. @Hades. Meekat blew up.
  2701.        
  2702. 19:22
  2703. Mickey Mouse
  2704. ha ha ha
  2705.        
  2706. 19:22
  2707. Mickey Mouse
  2708. For those in chat, there's a good one on the various antennas n the security+ with ITpro.TV in this one: Network Administration Principles (ep: 00000101)
  2709.        
  2710. 19:22
  2711. Mickey Mouse
  2712. Cool, thanks Minnie
  2713.        
  2714. 19:23
  2715. Mickey Mouse
  2716. Thanks Minnie, i will check it out
  2717.        
  2718. 19:23
  2719. Mickey Mouse
  2720. Thanks Minnie will watch
  2721.        
  2722. 19:23
  2723. Mickey Mouse
  2724. @Minnie - Thanks for the lead
  2725.        
  2726. 19:23
  2727. Mickey Mouse
  2728. I use Wifi Analyzer, which can make a noise as you close the AP....
  2729.        
  2730. 19:23
  2731. Mickey Mouse
  2732. thanks Minnie
  2733.        
  2734. 19:23
  2735. Mickey Mouse
  2736. However you do need to be connected to that network.
  2737.        
  2738. 19:23
  2739. Mickey Mouse
  2740. brb
  2741.        
  2742. 19:24
  2743. Mickey Mouse
  2744. Amateur Radio operators have the ability to use much more poser in the 2.4Ghz range including Wifi band. I believe we can use 5 watts which is a tremendous amount in that band.
  2745.        
  2746. 19:24
  2747. Mickey Mouse
  2748. Here's Megan with the Meerkat Hat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt-XacVGGAE
  2749.        
  2750. 19:24
  2751. Mickey Mouse
  2752. http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Cantenna
  2753.        
  2754. 19:25
  2755. Mickey Mouse
  2756. Aramis you gotta be able to make use of that
  2757.        
  2758. 19:25
  2759. Mickey Mouse
  2760. Pringles can!!!
  2761.        
  2762. 19:26
  2763. Mickey Mouse
  2764. sooo tired
  2765.        
  2766. 19:26
  2767. Mickey Mouse
  2768. @D'artagnan saw that one:)
  2769.        
  2770. 19:26
  2771. Mickey Mouse
  2772. i just got kicked in the face with the sleeping bug
  2773.        
  2774. 19:26
  2775. Mickey Mouse
  2776. I used to do that in college because Klez was on our network and I wanted to play Counterstrike... pwning n00bs in my Ford Ranger parked in the middle of a subdivision LOL
  2777.        
  2778. 19:27
  2779. Mickey Mouse
  2780. @D'artagnan nice lol
  2781.        
  2782. 19:28
  2783. Mickey Mouse
  2784. Counterstrike needs more medi-kits
  2785.        
  2786. 19:29
  2787. Mickey Mouse
  2788. Anyone remember the COPS episode (Las Vegas?) where they caught the guy war-driving, and he had people's identies written down?
  2789.        
  2790. 19:30
  2791. Mickey Mouse
  2792. This is a reference that I have for different Cisco antennas that is pretty through. It has each antenna type with patterns http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/wireless/aironet-antennas-accessories/product_data_sheet09186a008008883b.html
  2793.        
  2794. 19:31
  2795. Mickey Mouse
  2796. @Jafar nice link
  2797.        
  2798. 19:31
  2799. Mickey Mouse
  2800. Thanks, the content is almost as long as the URL
  2801.        
  2802. 19:33
  2803. Mickey Mouse
  2804. Antennas make more of a difference than power. A good antenna can make up for many other deficciencies
  2805.        
  2806. 19:33
  2807. Mickey Mouse
  2808. I have no idea what to post in the chatroom today
  2809.        
  2810. 19:34
  2811. Mickey Mouse
  2812. Nice one Jafar thanks.
  2813.        
  2814. 19:34
  2815. Mickey Mouse
  2816. Thanks again Jafar. Good stuff.
  2817.        
  2818. 19:34
  2819. Mickey Mouse
  2820. I have switched my organization to Meraki gear from Cisco. All remotely managed (since they are all over the US and I am Florida) and the WAP's have proven to be very good with adjustable power ranges and good security.
  2821.        
  2822. 19:34
  2823. Mickey Mouse
  2824. yea, all of the good stuff is at the bottom
  2825.        
  2826. 19:35
  2827. Mickey Mouse
  2828. @Athos - Love Meraki Equipment
  2829.        
  2830. 19:36
  2831. Mickey Mouse
  2832. I have to manage HQ in Austin from here in Fla and I could not do it with Meraki.
  2833.        
  2834. 19:36
  2835. Mickey Mouse
  2836. *without
  2837.        
  2838. 19:38
  2839. Mickey Mouse
  2840. @Athos. Have you tried the Meraki switches or firewalls?
  2841.        
  2842. 19:38
  2843. Mickey Mouse
  2844. I got a free Meraki AP for watching a webinar like being able to access from the internet.
  2845.        
  2846. 19:38
  2847. Mickey Mouse
  2848. That's more then what if at frys electronics
  2849.        
  2850. 19:40
  2851. Mickey Mouse
  2852. MR12 @Abu?
  2853.        
  2854. 19:41
  2855. Mickey Mouse
  2856. I use the firewalls in two locations to create a VPN tunnel between offices. I also use a switch in one location and I have no issues with any of them.
  2857.        
  2858. 19:41
  2859. Mickey Mouse
  2860. Check for the webinars, great way to get free gear from Meraki.
  2861.        
  2862. 19:41
  2863. Mickey Mouse
  2864. Thanks
  2865.        
  2866. 19:41
  2867. Mickey Mouse
  2868. @Abu +1
  2869.        
  2870. 19:41
  2871. Mickey Mouse
  2872. We have not been impressed with the MR12
  2873.        
  2874. 19:42
  2875. Mickey Mouse
  2876. other Meraki yes, just the MR12 doesnt perform very well.
  2877.        
  2878. 19:43
  2879. Mickey Mouse
  2880. back
  2881.        
  2882. 19:43
  2883. Mickey Mouse
  2884. @M think that's it ill check yes Athos worth the webinar LOL
  2885.        
  2886. 19:43
  2887. Mickey Mouse
  2888. They sent me a MR18 for the webinar. I am trying to make time to put it through the ringer.
  2889.        
  2890. 19:44
  2891. Mickey Mouse
  2892. MR18 seems to be a lot better
  2893.        
  2894. 19:44
  2895. Mickey Mouse
  2896. We use MX60's, Z1's (office2office vpn) and MR18's for AP.
  2897.        
  2898. 19:44
  2899. Mickey Mouse
  2900. I cant say for experience yet, but looking forward to testing it out
  2901.        
  2902. 19:45
  2903. Mickey Mouse
  2904. Those are good @Athos, we also use MX90s and MS22P
  2905.        
  2906. 19:45
  2907. Mickey Mouse
  2908. @Jafar nice can't beat the price
  2909.        
  2910. 19:45
  2911. Mickey Mouse
  2912. Has anyone found any discount on Cisco Cert test?
  2913.        
  2914. 19:45
  2915. Mickey Mouse
  2916. I do miss the CLI however
  2917.        
  2918. 19:45
  2919. Mickey Mouse
  2920. Or any cert?
  2921.        
  2922. 19:45
  2923. Mickey Mouse
  2924. @Abu true
  2925.        
  2926. 19:46
  2927. Mickey Mouse
  2928. @Abu but they do get you on subscription
  2929.        
  2930. 19:46
  2931. Mickey Mouse
  2932. @M CLI is great if you work in it a lot. FortunatelyWAN work is only a part of my job ..
  2933.        
  2934. 19:47
  2935. Mickey Mouse
  2936. @Jafar Haven't gotten anything yet but expect soon
  2937.        
  2938. 19:47
  2939. Mickey Mouse
  2940. @Athos - Agreed, but it is nice to know it is there as an alternative means of troubleshooting
  2941.        
  2942. 19:50
  2943. Mickey Mouse
  2944. I cant tell you how many houses I have visited where the cable provider has used WEP to secure the modem/router combo.
  2945.        
  2946. 19:50
  2947. Mickey Mouse
  2948. under 60 secs for wep
  2949.        
  2950. 19:51
  2951. Mickey Mouse
  2952. When wifi came on the scene everyone was open!
  2953.        
  2954. 19:51
  2955. Mickey Mouse
  2956. Older gaming consoles & handheld gaming consoles
  2957.        
  2958. 19:52
  2959. Mickey Mouse
  2960. anyone else having video drops?
  2961.        
  2962. 19:52
  2963. Mickey Mouse
  2964. I can't connect even with refresh
  2965.        
  2966. 19:52
  2967. Mickey Mouse
  2968. i can't get anything at all
  2969.        
  2970. 19:52
  2971. Mickey Mouse
  2972. fine here
  2973.        
  2974. 19:52
  2975. Mickey Mouse
  2976. @Aladdin. I was yesterday. Better today
  2977.        
  2978. 19:52
  2979. Mickey Mouse
  2980. everyone on att?
  2981.        
  2982. 19:52
  2983. Mickey Mouse
  2984. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Access
  2985.        
  2986. 19:52
  2987. Mickey Mouse
  2988. @matt the Meraki supports SSH connections and a local interface. But still not full CLi
  2989.        
  2990. 19:52
  2991. Mickey Mouse
  2992.  
  2993.        
  2994. 19:52
  2995. Mickey Mouse
  2996. Video is fine here also
  2997.        
  2998. 19:53
  2999. Mickey Mouse
  3000. Video suddenyly stumbling here
  3001.        
  3002. 19:53
  3003. Mickey Mouse
  3004. yeah - i had problems yesterday. att issue.
  3005.        
  3006. 19:53
  3007. Mickey Mouse
  3008. good here
  3009.        
  3010. 19:53
  3011. Mickey Mouse
  3012. It's under 10 now..... WOW!
  3013.        
  3014. 19:53
  3015. Mickey Mouse
  3016. Damn that's fast
  3017.        
  3018. 19:53
  3019. Mickey Mouse
  3020. QUSETION: which distro?
  3021.        
  3022. 19:53
  3023. Mickey Mouse
  3024. @Athos. Good to know. I was not aware.
  3025.        
  3026. 19:54
  3027. Mickey Mouse
  3028. The thing is, some places just dont have the money to upgrade, the company i work fro just took over IT for a school an they had 100meg switches, and their core network switch was about 20 years old. spanning tree was not even turned on, so kids would cause network loops that took ages to find!! so yeah some places still need wep wupport i suppose
  3029.        
  3030. 19:54
  3031. Mickey Mouse
  3032. Note to self: shut down unused ports on switches when Donald is around.
  3033.        
  3034. 19:54
  3035. Mickey Mouse
  3036. ha
  3037.        
  3038. 19:54
  3039. Mickey Mouse
  3040. @Donald you should sell here on ITPRO.TV! lol
  3041.        
  3042. 19:55
  3043. Mickey Mouse
  3044. haha
  3045.        
  3046. 19:55
  3047. Mickey Mouse
  3048. note - someonle like Donald is always around.
  3049.        
  3050. 19:56
  3051. Mickey Mouse
  3052. Kali
  3053.        
  3054. 19:56
  3055. Mickey Mouse
  3056. @Jafar gotta try Kali
  3057.        
  3058. 19:56
  3059. Mickey Mouse
  3060. Kali is Debian based so I guess not that one then
  3061.        
  3062. 19:58
  3063. Mickey Mouse
  3064. Has anyone seen the TWiET episodes with Rafael Mudge?
  3065.        
  3066. 19:58
  3067. Mickey Mouse
  3068. yeah those are good @Jafar
  3069.        
  3070. 19:59
  3071. Mickey Mouse
  3072. Yeah, eye opening
  3073.        
  3074. 20:00
  3075. Mickey Mouse
  3076. still could record the traffic and crack it later
  3077.        
  3078. 20:00
  3079. Mickey Mouse
  3080. that's how i do it Aladdin
  3081.        
  3082. 20:01
  3083. Mickey Mouse
  3084. yup - still a nightmare.
  3085.        
  3086. 20:01
  3087. Mickey Mouse
  3088. pull a handshake with airodump-ng/aireplay-ng then use aircrack-ng convert to hashcat
  3089.        
  3090. 20:05
  3091. Mickey Mouse
  3092. Using the gpu resources seems to be faster than the cpu
  3093.        
  3094. 20:05
  3095. Mickey Mouse
  3096. yes and AMD is much better
  3097.        
  3098. 20:06
  3099. Mickey Mouse
  3100. even though nvidia is better at claulating floating points... you want theose stream processors
  3101.        
  3102. 20:06
  3103. Mickey Mouse
  3104. the more processing cores the faster you crack
  3105.        
  3106. 20:06
  3107. Mickey Mouse
  3108. cuda cores in parallel work wonders
  3109.        
  3110. 20:07
  3111. Mickey Mouse
  3112. HAK5 has the wifi pineapple
  3113.        
  3114. 20:07
  3115. Mickey Mouse
  3116. it still takes me to ~24 hours to go through 10,000,000,000 combinations with my 980
  3117.        
  3118. 20:07
  3119. Mickey Mouse
  3120. are there any known hacks when connected to "guess" networks? Because basically you get access but isolated, how to jump from there to the main network?
  3121.        
  3122. 20:07
  3123. Mickey Mouse
  3124. ^^
  3125.        
  3126. 20:08
  3127. Mickey Mouse
  3128. probe req are called beacon frames
  3129.        
  3130. 20:08
  3131. Mickey Mouse
  3132. @Aladdin, now my video is getting random jitter (Level3).
  3133.        
  3134. 20:09
  3135. Mickey Mouse
  3136. @Jafar - mine cleared up a few mins ago...
  3137.        
  3138. 20:09
  3139. Mickey Mouse
  3140. Bunch of them hidden
  3141.        
  3142. 20:10
  3143. Mickey Mouse
  3144. i must have a slow gpu cause I can't seem to get more than 2500. Up from the normal use of airmon-ng aircrack and those programs in Kali
  3145.        
  3146. 20:10
  3147. Mickey Mouse
  3148. That is scary
  3149.        
  3150. 20:10
  3151. Mickey Mouse
  3152. @greg????
  3153.        
  3154. 20:10
  3155. Mickey Mouse
  3156. That's why MAC addresses should be matched.
  3157.        
  3158. 20:11
  3159. Mickey Mouse
  3160. 2500 per second?
  3161.        
  3162. 20:11
  3163. Mickey Mouse
  3164. if so it's probably cpu
  3165.        
  3166. 20:11
  3167. Mickey Mouse
  3168. He's a doorman lol
  3169.        
  3170. 20:11
  3171. Mickey Mouse
  3172. aircrack-ng itself only uses CPU
  3173.        
  3174. 20:11
  3175. Mickey Mouse
  3176. i had long delays with short video once in a while. it cleared up 15 minutes ago or so.
  3177.        
  3178. 20:11
  3179. Mickey Mouse
  3180. @Jumbo same here
  3181.        
  3182. 20:12
  3183. Mickey Mouse
  3184. "why am i attaching to wifi-maui-hilton? i'm in gainesville?
  3185.        
  3186. 20:12
  3187. Mickey Mouse
  3188. lol
  3189.        
  3190. 20:13
  3191. Mickey Mouse
  3192. You can also ssh tunnel back through to see all of the activity.
  3193.        
  3194. 20:13
  3195. Mickey Mouse
  3196. funny
  3197.        
  3198. 20:14
  3199. Mickey Mouse
  3200. wow
  3201.        
  3202. 20:14
  3203. Mickey Mouse
  3204. The systems are designed to connect to the strongest signal
  3205.        
  3206. 20:14
  3207. Mickey Mouse
  3208. The box shows the SSID. Is there a way to see the BSSID of recent connected networks?
  3209.        
  3210. 20:15
  3211. Mickey Mouse
  3212. Ha ha Donald
  3213.        
  3214. 20:15
  3215. Mickey Mouse
  3216. lol
  3217.        
  3218. 20:16
  3219. Mickey Mouse
  3220. YOU ARE AWESOME
  3221.        
  3222. 20:16
  3223. Mickey Mouse
  3224. lol the air is free
  3225.        
  3226. 20:16
  3227. Mickey Mouse
  3228. Juicy log files.
  3229.        
  3230. 20:16
  3231. Mickey Mouse
  3232. LOL!
  3233.        
  3234. 20:16
  3235. Mickey Mouse
  3236. The true beast reveals itself. Lol
  3237.        
  3238. 20:16
  3239. Mickey Mouse
  3240. brb
  3241.        
  3242. 20:17
  3243. Mickey Mouse
  3244. @Abu Yes if you use airmon-ng and probably other tools too.
  3245.        
  3246. 20:18
  3247. Mickey Mouse
  3248. @Abu just fired it up on my Kali box here and BSSID is on left and ESSID on far right
  3249.        
  3250. 20:18
  3251. Mickey Mouse
  3252. a lot of people swear by ESWA
  3253.        
  3254. 20:18
  3255. Mickey Mouse
  3256. Nice Minnie!
  3257.        
  3258. 20:18
  3259. Mickey Mouse
  3260. are there any known hacks when connected to "guess" networks? Because basically you get access but are isolated, how to jump from there to the main network?
  3261.        
  3262. 20:18
  3263. Mickey Mouse
  3264. erm ewsa
  3265.        
  3266. 20:19
  3267. Mickey Mouse
  3268. https://www.elcomsoft.com/ewsa.html
  3269.        
  3270. 20:19
  3271. Mickey Mouse
  3272. @Iago probably but I haven't learned how to do that yet so will be interested in Donald's answer
  3273.        
  3274. 20:19
  3275. Mickey Mouse
  3276. @Louie not cheap
  3277.        
  3278. 20:21
  3279. Mickey Mouse
  3280. right
  3281.        
  3282. 20:21
  3283. Mickey Mouse
  3284. @Captain my captain is it true you were particularly good at line dancing or was that made up for company profiles?
  3285.        
  3286. 20:22
  3287. Mickey Mouse
  3288. @Minnie.. .true... and honestly... the only reason... it's user friendly
  3289.        
  3290. 20:22
  3291. Mickey Mouse
  3292. it's not any faster. if anything it's slower
  3293.        
  3294. 20:23
  3295. Mickey Mouse
  3296. I do like GUIs but fast learning that CLI seems to be the thing with pen testing
  3297.        
  3298. 20:24
  3299. Mickey Mouse
  3300. i'm just speculating, but i expect you could host a malware link on your pc and inject into there http page. from there you have code running on their pc. if they are vpned into the company etc.... i have no exp..
  3301.        
  3302. 20:24
  3303. Mickey Mouse
  3304. Haven't figured out how to use hashcat yet in Kali
  3305.        
  3306. 20:25
  3307. Mickey Mouse
  3308. You lost me there Jumbo - are you talking about hopping?
  3309.        
  3310. 20:25
  3311. Mickey Mouse
  3312. @ greg on sec I'll write you up some stuiffis
  3313.        
  3314. 20:26
  3315. Mickey Mouse
  3316. getting them to run a buffer overflow exploit to get shell code running on there pc.
  3317.        
  3318. 20:27
  3319. Mickey Mouse
  3320. @greg... amd or nvidia gpu?
  3321.        
  3322. 20:27
  3323. Mickey Mouse
  3324. ah ok
  3325.        
  3326. 20:27
  3327. Mickey Mouse
  3328. and 32 or 64 bit
  3329.        
  3330. 20:27
  3331. Mickey Mouse
  3332. Nvidia 650x.
  3333.        
  3334. 20:28
  3335. Mickey Mouse
  3336. if a person is browsing the internet using http you can inject anything into ther webpages to exploit them. then if it turns out they have a secure vpn connection to the corp network you have access
  3337.        
  3338. 20:28
  3339. Mickey Mouse
  3340. 64
  3341.        
  3342. 20:28
  3343. Mickey Mouse
  3344. 1. airmon-ng start wlan0 2. airodump-ng -w pwned mon0 3. aireplay -0 1 -a <bssid> -c <client mac> mon0 4. capture three way handshakes 5. wpaclean pwned pwned.cap 6. aircrack-ng -J pwned 7. cudahashcat64 -m 2500 pwned.hccap <path to wordlist>
  3345.        
  3346. 20:29
  3347. Mickey Mouse
  3348. @Jumbo now I follow you
  3349.        
  3350. 20:29
  3351. Mickey Mouse
  3352. I built the comp two years ago
  3353.        
  3354. 20:29
  3355. Mickey Mouse
  3356. Oh that makes sense
  3357.        
  3358. 20:30
  3359. Mickey Mouse
  3360. i realy only understand conceptualy. mostly from security now podcat
  3361.        
  3362. 20:30
  3363. Mickey Mouse
  3364. @Louie what spec would you recommend for kali to run well in a vlab?
  3365.        
  3366. 20:30
  3367. Mickey Mouse
  3368. yeah you can only run hashcat on hccap
  3369.        
  3370. 20:31
  3371. Mickey Mouse
  3372. I always give it 4GB of ram so I don't have to worry about resources
  3373.        
  3374. 20:31
  3375. Mickey Mouse
  3376. that said for the most part 1GB is good
  3377.        
  3378. 20:32
  3379. Mickey Mouse
  3380. K
  3381.        
  3382. 20:32
  3383. Mickey Mouse
  3384. i have lots of ram on my box so my kali has 4096 meg
  3385.        
  3386. 20:32
  3387. Mickey Mouse
  3388. Only got 2Gb allocated to mine, I'll bump it up - thanks
  3389.        
  3390. 20:33
  3391. Mickey Mouse
  3392. i had some feezing from tim to time. so for no more freez
  3393.        
  3394. 20:33
  3395. Mickey Mouse
  3396. 8 gigs of ram is all I have
  3397.        
  3398. 20:34
  3399. Mickey Mouse
  3400. 32 gig. i put together so i could practice vlab
  3401.        
  3402. 20:34
  3403. Mickey Mouse
  3404. @Jumbo nice
  3405.        
  3406. 20:34
  3407. Mickey Mouse
  3408. @greg... is it recognizing your GPU in the vm?
  3409.        
  3410. 20:34
  3411. Mickey Mouse
  3412. For Linux 2GB memory works good for VM's from what I have found
  3413.        
  3414. 20:35
  3415. Mickey Mouse
  3416. @Geptto... I would agree. The only reason I use 4 is because I like to put a lot of strain on things
  3417.        
  3418. 20:35
  3419. Mickey Mouse
  3420. the freez i had could still turn out to be something else
  3421.        
  3422. 20:39
  3423. Mickey Mouse
  3424. @Donald, so basically what we are learning here... is Don't use Wireless
  3425.        
  3426. 20:39
  3427. Mickey Mouse
  3428. QUESTION: I've had pen test reports recommend we use obfuscation on teh SSID but I really don't see the point - is there any?
  3429.        
  3430. 20:39
  3431. Mickey Mouse
  3432. lol
  3433.        
  3434. 20:40
  3435. Mickey Mouse
  3436. lol
  3437.        
  3438. 20:40
  3439. Mickey Mouse
  3440. lol
  3441.        
  3442. 20:40
  3443. Mickey Mouse
  3444. lol
  3445.        
  3446. 20:40
  3447. Mickey Mouse
  3448. Airborne!! HOAH!
  3449.        
  3450. 20:40
  3451. Mickey Mouse
  3452. we use hidden SSID not for security but so SSID list is not cluttered - keep guests connecting to one you want
  3453.        
  3454. 20:40
  3455. Mickey Mouse
  3456. Not at the comp right now.
  3457.        
  3458. 20:41
  3459. Mickey Mouse
  3460. No any connect wireless device broadcasts SSID and mac address in the clear?
  3461.        
  3462. 20:41
  3463. Mickey Mouse
  3464. Model numbers in the show notes please.
  3465.        
  3466. 20:42
  3467. Mickey Mouse
  3468. Question: If an enterprise enviornment is requiring certs and network authentication is that reasonably secure?
  3469.        
  3470. 20:42
  3471. Mickey Mouse
  3472. Righto, will have to weight it up with requirements at work
  3473.        
  3474. 20:43
  3475. Mickey Mouse
  3476. year
  3477.        
  3478. 20:44
  3479. Mickey Mouse
  3480. *yes
  3481.        
  3482. 20:44
  3483. Mickey Mouse
  3484. @Minnie Would you happen to be posting the list of useful links you mentioned that you are building. I have been in and out of the sessions tied up with other tasks and not able to catch it all.
  3485.        
  3486. 20:44
  3487. Mickey Mouse
  3488. What about using RADIUS
  3489.        
  3490. 20:44
  3491. Mickey Mouse
  3492. RADIUS pops into my head now... donno why
  3493.        
  3494. 20:45
  3495. Mickey Mouse
  3496. Is it reasonably secure to setup an enterprise wireless requiring both certs and network authentication?
  3497.        
  3498. 20:45
  3499. Mickey Mouse
  3500. 802.1x with certs
  3501.        
  3502. 20:45
  3503. Mickey Mouse
  3504. @Jafar FYI - CEH links thread - https://bitly.com/itpro-ceh-links which resolves to https://forums.itpro.tv/topic/353/ceh-useful-links
  3505.        
  3506. 20:45
  3507. Mickey Mouse
  3508. @Jafar will update later/tomorrow
  3509.        
  3510. 20:45
  3511. Mickey Mouse
  3512. Same minds D'artagnan
  3513.        
  3514. 20:45
  3515. Mickey Mouse
  3516. Good afternoon/evening just got back online.
  3517.        
  3518. 20:46
  3519. Mickey Mouse
  3520. @Minnie Awesome, thanks
  3521.        
  3522. 20:46
  3523. Mickey Mouse
  3524. Steve Gibson would know. Lol
  3525.        
  3526. 20:46
  3527. Mickey Mouse
  3528. lol yay
  3529.        
  3530. 20:47
  3531. Mickey Mouse
  3532. Is there a way security admins can be alerted to rogue access points?
  3533.        
  3534. 20:48
  3535. Mickey Mouse
  3536. Do you mean issuing and deploying specific wi-fi certs from your pki and using that for verification as part of authentication process? That's how we've done it previously
  3537.        
  3538. 20:48
  3539. Mickey Mouse
  3540. Switch be necessary for home network?
  3541.        
  3542. 20:48
  3543. Mickey Mouse
  3544. @Minnie., Yes
  3545.        
  3546. 20:48
  3547. Mickey Mouse
  3548. Thanks @ Aramis
  3549.        
  3550. 20:49
  3551. Mickey Mouse
  3552. Some brands of APs report rogue APs.
  3553.        
  3554. 20:49
  3555. Mickey Mouse
  3556. Where I used to works there were 4 or 5 company built certs requierd
  3557.        
  3558. 20:49
  3559. Mickey Mouse
  3560. That WiSpy is awesome, I have used it several times
  3561.        
  3562. 20:49
  3563. Mickey Mouse
  3564. Those are cool but very expensive.
  3565.        
  3566. 20:50
  3567. Mickey Mouse
  3568. Awesome! Thanks.
  3569.        
  3570. 20:50
  3571. Mickey Mouse
  3572. you can get a directional antenna for that too
  3573.        
  3574. 20:50
  3575. Mickey Mouse
  3576. Chanalizer?
  3577.        
  3578. 20:51
  3579. Mickey Mouse
  3580. http://www.inssider.com/index2.html?utm_expid=80366919-52.xFTKjY6_QkGzl57I2-Qj1g.1
  3581.        
  3582. 20:51
  3583. Mickey Mouse
  3584. @Donald, which bluetooth device do you use?
  3585.        
  3586. 20:51
  3587. Mickey Mouse
  3588. FDuey!
  3589.        
  3590. 20:52
  3591. Mickey Mouse
  3592. @Aramis thnk for link
  3593.        
  3594. 20:52
  3595. Mickey Mouse
  3596. http://www.fDuey.com/
  3597.        
  3598. 20:52
  3599. Mickey Mouse
  3600. They had a device on TWIET a while back for troubleshooting and monitoring Wireless activities
  3601.        
  3602. 20:52
  3603. Mickey Mouse
  3604. forget what it is called
  3605.        
  3606. 20:53
  3607. Mickey Mouse
  3608. Thanks Aramis
  3609.        
  3610. 20:53
  3611. Mickey Mouse
  3612. @Aramis FDuey is the Electrical test tool division. www.fDueynetworks.com rather
  3613.        
  3614. 20:53
  3615. Mickey Mouse
  3616. inssider is great for free
  3617.        
  3618. 20:54
  3619. Mickey Mouse
  3620. U need to start a show called IT Weekly
  3621.        
  3622. 20:54
  3623. Mickey Mouse
  3624. FDuey is also great for electrical test tools
  3625.        
  3626. 20:55
  3627. Mickey Mouse
  3628. What do recommend for bluetooth?
  3629.        
  3630. 20:55
  3631. Mickey Mouse
  3632. pwnapd
  3633.        
  3634. 20:55
  3635. Mickey Mouse
  3636. Interesting link here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2456620/airmagnet-wifi-security-tool-takes-aim-at-drones.html
  3637.        
  3638. 20:55
  3639. Mickey Mouse
  3640. *pwnpad
  3641.        
  3642. 20:55
  3643. Mickey Mouse
  3644. Thanks Aramis and Donald
  3645.        
  3646. 20:55
  3647. Mickey Mouse
  3648. Pwnpad I want one
  3649.        
  3650. 20:55
  3651. Mickey Mouse
  3652. @Minnie Did anyone mention http://map.ipviking.com/ or http://www.digitalattackmap.com/ ?
  3653.        
  3654. 20:55
  3655. Mickey Mouse
  3656. Thanks very much for another excellent show.
  3657.        
  3658. 20:55
  3659. Mickey Mouse
  3660. Awesome link @Minnie
  3661.        
  3662. 20:56
  3663. Mickey Mouse
  3664. IT weekly, yes.
  3665.        
  3666. 20:56
  3667. Mickey Mouse
  3668. Thanks guys and gals
  3669.        
  3670. 20:56
  3671. Mickey Mouse
  3672. Great show guys
  3673.        
  3674. 20:56
  3675. Mickey Mouse
  3676. Thanks Donald and Aramis great show
  3677.        
  3678. 20:56
  3679. Mickey Mouse
  3680. thanks guys that was a fun segment
  3681.        
  3682. 20:56
  3683. Mickey Mouse
  3684. @Jafar I've metnioned both those sites on previous days and they are in my links post
  3685.        
  3686. 20:56
  3687. Mickey Mouse
  3688. Great show
  3689.        
  3690. 20:56
  3691. Mickey Mouse
  3692. Cool.
  3693.        
  3694. 20:56
  3695. Mickey Mouse
  3696. Thanks so much
  3697.        
  3698. 20:57
  3699. Mickey Mouse
  3700. Give Minnie another book. she's awesome
  3701.        
  3702. 20:57
  3703. Mickey Mouse
  3704. so best security of corporate wifi would be 802.1x and certificates?
  3705.        
  3706. 20:57
  3707. Mickey Mouse
  3708. No Wes today for his drum roll
  3709.        
  3710. 20:58
  3711. Mickey Mouse
  3712. @Aramis - Was there any information on getting my book replaced? D:
  3713.        
  3714. 20:58
  3715. Mickey Mouse
  3716. I would say... certificates, radius, and requirement of domain authentication
  3717.        
  3718. 20:58
  3719. Mickey Mouse
  3720. It looks like the link i provided earlier for finding rogue APs will allow you to provide info but not allow download of the whitepaper. I will see if I can find another link.
  3721.        
  3722. 20:58
  3723. Mickey Mouse
  3724. +1 Louie
  3725.        
  3726. 20:58
  3727. Mickey Mouse
  3728. +1 @Clarke!!
  3729.        
  3730. 20:59
  3731. Mickey Mouse
  3732. Yeah, that'd be a lot of effort to get into that
  3733.        
  3734. 20:59
  3735. Mickey Mouse
  3736. and by the time you have access to all of that info, why use wireless?
  3737.        
  3738. 20:59
  3739. Mickey Mouse
  3740. http://7signal.com/
  3741.        
  3742. 21:00
  3743. Mickey Mouse
  3744. I'm not hearing anything.
  3745.        
  3746. 21:00
  3747. Mickey Mouse
  3748. I can't believe we only have one more day of this.
  3749.        
  3750. 21:00
  3751. Mickey Mouse
  3752. Ok, that explains it.
  3753.        
  3754. 21:00
  3755. Mickey Mouse
  3756. yeah these past two weeks have flown by
  3757.        
  3758. 21:00
  3759. Mickey Mouse
  3760. No more live shows. That sucks
  3761.        
  3762. 21:00
  3763. Mickey Mouse
  3764. Congrats
  3765.        
  3766. 21:00
  3767. Mickey Mouse
  3768. Congrats!!!!
  3769.        
  3770. 21:00
  3771. Mickey Mouse
  3772. Congrats
  3773.        
  3774. 21:00
  3775. Mickey Mouse
  3776. WOW!
  3777.        
  3778. 21:00
  3779. Mickey Mouse
  3780. congrats Daisy
  3781.        
  3782. 21:01
  3783. Mickey Mouse
  3784. Woo - many congrats Daisy!
  3785.        
  3786. 21:01
  3787. Mickey Mouse
  3788. ____Drum Roll____________________________
  3789.        
  3790. 21:01
  3791. Mickey Mouse
  3792. Thanks guys!!!
  3793.        
  3794. 21:01
  3795. Mickey Mouse
  3796. Grats!!
  3797.        
  3798. 21:01
  3799. Mickey Mouse
  3800. Congrats @Daisy! Yay!
  3801.        
  3802. 21:01
  3803. Mickey Mouse
  3804. Congrats Daisy
  3805.        
  3806. 21:01
  3807. Mickey Mouse
  3808. Congrats Daisy
  3809.        
  3810. 21:01
  3811. Mickey Mouse
  3812. Congrats!!!!
  3813.        
  3814. 21:01
  3815. Mickey Mouse
  3816. Congreg Daisy
  3817.        
  3818. 21:01
  3819. Mickey Mouse
  3820. YAY!!!!
  3821.        
  3822. 21:01
  3823. Mickey Mouse
  3824. Thanks guys : )
  3825.        
  3826. 21:01
  3827. Mickey Mouse
  3828. congratz!
  3829.        
  3830. 21:01
  3831. Mickey Mouse
  3832. Yes, you did... the first time
  3833.        
  3834. 21:02
  3835. Mickey Mouse
  3836. congrats Daisy
  3837.        
  3838. 21:02
  3839. Mickey Mouse
  3840. thanks @ Aramis!
  3841.        
  3842. 21:02
  3843. Mickey Mouse
  3844. Great show thanks
  3845.        
  3846. 21:02
  3847. Mickey Mouse
  3848. See you all tomorrow. Quick reminder of links for you which I'll update tomorrow
  3849.        
  3850. 21:02
  3851. Mickey Mouse
  3852. Ok dude
  3853.        
  3854. 21:02
  3855. Mickey Mouse
  3856. There seem today delay on Roku
  3857.        
  3858. 21:02
  3859. Mickey Mouse
  3860. FYI - CEH links thread - https://bitly.com/itpro-ceh-links which resolves to https://forums.itpro.tv/topic/353/ceh-useful-links
  3861.        
  3862. 21:03
  3863. Mickey Mouse
  3864. I'm so stoked!
  3865.        
  3866. 21:03
  3867. Mickey Mouse
  3868. Chow everyone!
  3869.        
  3870. 21:03
  3871. Mickey Mouse
  3872. For those that asked for chat logs: http://bit.ly/itpro-CEH-chat which resolves to https://forums.itpro.tv/topic/351/ceh-chat-logs-privacy-and-links
  3873.        
  3874. 21:03
  3875. Mickey Mouse
  3876. ROFL @Donald
  3877.        
  3878. 21:03
  3879. Mickey Mouse
  3880. Night all
  3881.        
  3882. 21:03
  3883. Mickey Mouse
  3884.  
  3885.        
  3886. 21:03
  3887. Mickey Mouse
  3888. Goodnight everyone, beeeer time, uk holiday
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