Copyright policies

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[20:42] <Chainoffire> Inpu: If we take an image from the .net and post it on the wiki, and we say "Credit goes to www.khwiki.net", is that still considered copyright?
[20:46] <Chainoffire> ello?
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[20:51] <Sove> Someone should learn the licensing stuff with wikis :p
[20:51] <Chainoffire> That's why I was asking :P
[20:51] <Sove> If the image is copyrighted by SE, you dont really even need to mention this wiki
[20:52] <Sove> If it was made by a user here, you would only need to mention the wiki as your source
[20:52] <Sove> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
[20:52] <Chainoffire> even if it was ripped by a user? Such as this picture: http://www.khwiki.net/File:Memory%27s_Skyscraper_(Render)_KHII.png
[20:53] <Sove> That's SE's property under fair use
[20:53] <Sove> So you don't need to source .net
[20:54] <Sove> It is a good practice to do so, though
[20:54] <Chainoffire> DE removed the picture from the keyhole for copyright, even though I had a licence on it and gave credit to the .net
[20:55] <Sove> He had no reasons to remove it for copyright, though
[20:55] <Sove> Most people have no idea how most laws tuff works, can't really blame them , though, the whole area is so confusing
[20:56] <Chainoffire> In that case, I'm going to re upload it
[20:56] <Chainoffire> It is, thanks for clearing it up
[20:57] <Sove> DE did rip it, but it's still under SE's copyright. You can give ripping credits to DE, but he can't remove it afterwards, at least for copuright, if the image is used
[20:58] <Sove> Again, read this http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
[20:58] <Chainoffire> oh okay. Should I use the screenshot licence, or the Public Domain licence then?
[20:59] <Chainoffire> I did read :3
[21:00] <Sove> The same license as .net
[21:00] <Chainoffire> screenshot
[21:00] <Sove> Most people fail to realize that whatever they submit to a wiki can be used by anyone for whatever purpose
[21:01] <Sove> As long as they attribute the original work in the manner specified
[21:01] <Catuse> Even though it says so right there on the edit page
[21:01] <Chainoffire> I thought so
[21:02] <Sove> Cat, indeed
[21:02] <Chainoffire> because wikis are basically public domain
[21:02] <Sove> It's not public domain, actually
[21:02] <Sove> Unless the author says the edit is oublic domain
[21:02] <Sove> If nothing is said, it's CC-BY-SA
[21:02] <Sove> Or whatever license the wiki is using
[21:03] <Sove> BY-SA being most common
[21:04] <Sove> Some wikis use CC-BY-NC-SA
[21:04] <Sove> It's pretty much the same, but the work can't be used commercially
[21:04] <Chainoffire> But it does say "Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!"
[21:04] <Sove> Fair use
[21:04] <Sove> So you can
[21:04] <Sove> As DE ahs no copyright to the rip
[21:05] <Sove> I remember when FFWiki guys found this one site selling books made from FFWiki's articles
[21:05] <Sove> :3
[21:05] <Chainoffire> I gave him credit for ripping it anyways
[21:05] <Chainoffire> I remember hearing about that
[21:06] <Sove> CoF, then there is absolutely nothing DE can do about it
[21:06] <Chainoffire> I remember an identical kh wiki too
[21:06] <Sove> As long as the image is used, that is
[21:06] <Chainoffire> it will be
[21:06] <Sove> If he removes it, you can complain to wikia's staff
[21:06] <Sove> I remember people weren't happy about that book site
[21:07] <Sove> But they did nothing wrong
[21:07] <Sove> The license allowed them to do so
[21:07] <Sove> But nothing would have prevented you from scanning the book and uploading it to bazillion torrent sites, either :)
[21:08] <Chainoffire> true
[21:08] <Sove> Since they had to license it in the same way
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[21:09] <Sove> you could just make a book from wikipedia articles and sell it
[21:09] <Sove> I wouls remove the images, though, if any of them are under fair use, you have copyright issues
[21:09] <Chainoffire> Just for kicks and giggles, do you mind if I pastebin this conversation in case DE tries to delete it again?
[21:10] <Sove> I guess
[21:10] <Sove> You can
[21:10] <Chainoffire> Thank you