[10:57] <CelestialDoggie> so Pilz
[10:57] <CelestialDoggie> which classes in Anima aren't worth it?
[10:58] <~Pilz> hmm
[10:58] <~Pilz> lemme see here
[10:58] <~Pilz> off the top of my head, Thief, Ranger, Freelancer
[10:58] <CelestialDoggie> before I left, I had been planning on rolling a Paladin for Huge's game
[10:58] <~Pilz> but then I'm planning on making a Ranger if my GM starts another game
[10:58] <~Pilz> so
[10:58] <~Pilz> Pallys are fine
[10:58] <CelestialDoggie> ok
[10:59] <~Pilz> use the rules for non-magic pallys unless you REALLY want the summon skill
[10:59] <~Pilz> also, if you want a D&D pally, you may be better served by a warlock-class
[10:59] <~Pilz> since thats the spellsword class
[10:59] <~Pilz> Paladins get a +summon
[10:59] <~Pilz> which can be used for invocations
[10:59] <CelestialDoggie> yeah
[10:59] <~Pilz> so you can always work with your GM to make them fluffy
[11:00] <~Pilz> Dark Paladins get a +control
[11:00] <~Pilz> which is a neat idea
[11:00] <~Pilz> but...arguably not very useful
[11:00] <~Pilz> it's very game-dependant
[11:00] <CelestialDoggie> well, it's a moot point for now, but maybe at some future point
[11:00] <~Pilz> yeah
[11:00] <~Pilz> I'm just infodumping because bored
[11:00] <CelestialDoggie> yep
[11:01] <CelestialDoggie> I'm also a fan of the idea of the Acrobatic Warrior
[11:01] <~Pilz> those are fuuuun
[11:01] <~Pilz> that's how I made my nobleman duelist
[11:02] <CelestialDoggie> yeah
[11:02] <~Pilz> Fencing Rapier + Parrying Dagger
[11:02] <CelestialDoggie> of course
[11:02] <~Pilz> and then uh
[11:02] <~Pilz> in D. Exxet
[11:02] <~Pilz> there's a thing you can take that lets you make an additional block with your offhand
[11:02] <~Pilz> instead of attacking with it
[11:02] <~Pilz> and it works for dodge too
[11:03] <~Pilz> so take that and then giggle as you take on 2 guys at once easy at level 1
[11:03] <CelestialDoggie> that's awesome
[11:03] <~Pilz> oh my god
[11:03] <~Pilz> it's /x/-tan in pokemon
[11:04] <~Pilz> dat Hex Maniac
[11:04] <~Pilz> anyway
[11:04] <~Pilz> yes it is awesome
[11:04] <~Pilz> it's not expensive either
[11:05] <~Pilz> it's like 20, 30 DP?
[11:05] <~Pilz> totally worth it
[11:05] <~Pilz> since it's practically +30 block/dodge
[11:05] <~Pilz> which is 60 DP
[11:06] <CelestialDoggie> yeah
[11:07] <CelestialDoggie> awesome, adobe just crashed
[11:07] <CelestialDoggie> (I only had like 9 PDFs open)
[11:07] <~Pilz> heh
[11:08] <CelestialDoggie> anyway
[11:09] <CelestialDoggie> what's wrong with thief, then? Just completely ineffectual for fightans?
[11:09] <~Pilz> Shadow is a better Thief in terms of fightan
[11:09] <~Pilz> in terms of STEALING shit?
[11:09] <~Pilz> Thief all the way
[11:10] <~Pilz> Thief is an excellent skillmonkey
[11:10] <~Pilz> and would be great in a dungeon crawl type game
[11:10] <CelestialDoggie> ok
[11:11] <~Pilz> also thief is sneakyer
[11:11] <~Pilz> sneakier*
[11:11] <~Pilz> the problem with Thief is that normally, Thief and Rogue are the same class
[11:12] <~Pilz> this time they're split up into 3, Thief, Shadow and Assassin
[11:12] <CelestialDoggie> I see
[11:12] <~Pilz> this allows you to be damn good at sneaking, sneaky-fighting, or sneaky-spying
[11:13] <~Pilz> ...but not all at once
[11:13] <~Pilz> and if you're a sneaker in a game where you need to be sneaky-fighting
[11:13] <~Pilz> you've got a problem
[11:13] <~Pilz> potentially
[11:14] <~Pilz> this is more if we're talking in terms of optimization than anything
[11:14] <CelestialDoggie> right
[11:14] <~Pilz> things like the rules for using hide/sneak in combat really help the thief and assassin in combat
[11:15] <~Pilz> (once you have mastery in Hide, you can pretty reliably disappear from view mid-combat as long as there's stuff to hide behind)
[11:15] <CelestialDoggie> nice
[11:15] <CelestialDoggie> kind of "hide in plain sight"
[11:15] <~Pilz> and then you sneak up behind them
[11:15] <~Pilz> and BACKSTAB
[11:15] <~Pilz> -170 nigga
[11:16] <~Pilz> -170 to their block/dodge
[11:16] <CelestialDoggie> awesome
[11:16] <~Pilz> if they're unaware and you're behind them
[11:16] <~Pilz> because they take blinded and from behind penalties
[11:17] <~Pilz> also, note that you can use Acrobatics to outmanuver your opponent
[11:17] <~Pilz> if you roll an acrobatics over their attack ability, you can get beside/behind them
[11:17] <~Pilz> even if you're in 1-on-1 combat
[11:17] <~Pilz> so again, they take a penalty
[11:21] <CelestialDoggie> that's kind of awesome