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im offended by furries = fursuits should be banned 5 ever

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  1. [10:30:40 AM] The Shad: PFFT
  2. [10:30:45 AM] The Shad: SPIDERMAN AND THE FURSUITER
  3. [10:30:47 AM] The Shad: ahaha
  4. [10:30:56 AM] Tatzel Shepard: god is that furry there again
  5. [10:31:10 AM] The Shad: why are you hating on that guy lol
  6. [10:31:19 AM] Tatzel Shepard: because it's fucking stupid
  7. [10:31:29 AM] Tatzel Shepard: if he actually was a mascot, okay
  8. [10:31:31 AM] Tatzel Shepard: but no
  9. [10:31:33 AM] The Shad: hating on him for no reason is fucking stupid yeah
  10. [10:31:38 AM] Tatzel Shepard: HEY GUYS LOOK AT ME I'M SO SPECIAL
  11. [10:31:59 AM] The Shad: Why do you assume that's what he thinks?
  12. [10:32:13 AM] Tatzel Shepard: I wouldn't have allowed him in like this
  13. [10:32:24 AM] sceb: Fucking guy showing up in a white T-shit and purple pants
  14. [10:32:24 AM] Tatzel Shepard: either he goes in like everyone else or he stays out
  15. [10:32:25 AM] The Shad: Good thing you don't organize tournaments then
  16. [10:33:08 AM] Tatzel Shepard: well, why else would you show up in a fursuit during an event where no one dresses up other than to stick out?
  17. [10:33:17 AM] Tatzel Shepard: and furries do tend to do this bullshit
  18. [10:33:26 AM] The Shad: Nice generalization
  19. [10:33:37 AM] The Shad: The guy is having fun and I don't see anything wrong with that
  20. [10:33:53 AM] Tatzel Shepard: of course he's having fun
  21. [10:34:03 AM] Tatzel Shepard: but just in the wrong way
  22. [10:34:09 AM] The Shad: what
  23. [10:34:13 AM] The Shad: how is that wrong in any way
  24. [10:34:26 AM] Tatzel Shepard: why the fucking fursuit
  25. [10:34:31 AM] The Shad: Why not?
  26. [10:34:46 AM] Tatzel Shepard: because it's not a furry event and it looks fucking stupid
  27. [10:35:20 AM] Tatzel Shepard: lets agree to disagree, because you won't be able to change my mind
  28. [10:35:24 AM] The Shad: It's not a cosplaying even either, and there are people cosplaying
  29. [10:35:31 AM] Tatzel Shepard: this guy is annoying me to no end
  30. [10:35:32 AM] The Shad: Your only argument is "I don't like it lol"
  31. [10:35:37 AM] Tatzel Shepard: so?
  32. [10:35:48 AM] Tatzel Shepard: that's how you see it
  33. [10:35:56 AM] Tatzel Shepard: I think it doesn't belong there
  34. [10:35:58 AM] The Shad: Well, it's fucking dumb to say "he's having fun in the wrong way" just because you don't like it
  35. [10:36:31 AM] Tatzel Shepard: Spiderman atleast makes sense, because in this very environment Spiderman is a game character
  36. [10:37:57 AM] The Shad: This fursuit guys has been showing to several events, he plays games and he has fun with people
  37. [10:38:09 AM] The Shad: I don't understand why just having a fursuit makes it wrong
  38. [10:38:34 AM] The Shad: there's this guy that has been showing up in a victorian era mask and hella fancy vest at several tournaments
  39. [10:38:34 AM] The Shad: it's the same
  40. [10:38:48 AM | Edited 10:38:52 AM] The Shad: guy likes wearing this, that's all
  41. [10:39:15 AM] Tatzel Shepard: I think the mask guy was there yesterday too?
  42. [10:39:22 AM] Tatzel Shepard: I saw him showing up during SF somewhere
  43. [10:39:26 AM] WordBird: i backread this conversation and i have no idea who you guys are arguing about
  44. [10:39:27 AM] The Shad: I don't know, I didn't see everything
  45. [10:39:48 AM] The Shad: Some guy that shows up at fighting game tournaments in a fursuit
  46. [10:39:53 AM] Tatzel Shepard: I'm not a fan of it either, but you can just take the mask off
  47. [10:39:57 AM] The Shad: (not a creepy one)
  48. [10:40:12 AM] The Shad: ?? he can also just take the fursuit off?????
  49. [10:40:20 AM] Tatzel Shepard: while the other one is wearing a complete costume
  50. [10:40:21 AM] The Shad: but why'd he need to?
  51. [10:40:34 AM] Tatzel Shepard: yeah but why doesn't he just leave it out?
  52. [10:40:35 AM] The Shad: [10:41 AM] Tatzel Shepard:
  53.  
  54. <<< while the other one is wearing a complete costume[10:39 AM] The Shad:
  55.  
  56. <<< and hella fancy vest
  57. [10:40:42 AM] Tatzel Shepard: oh wow one vest
  58. [10:40:45 AM] The Shad: Why should he?
  59. [10:40:55 AM] Tatzel Shepard: and not a fucking headpiece, arm pieces, tail
  60. [10:41:06 AM] The Shad: but what's wrong with that
  61. [10:41:08 AM] The Shad: I don't understand
  62. [10:41:14 AM] Tatzel Shepard: because one is just a piece of clothing actually
  63. [10:41:21 AM] Tatzel Shepard: and the other a costume
  64. [10:41:25 AM] Tatzel Shepard: which just doesn't belong there
  65. [10:41:34 AM] The Shad: yeah, he still looks like he comes from a ball in Venise
  66. [10:41:48 AM] The Shad: why does it not belong there?
  67. [10:41:51 AM] WordBird: sounds like this guy isnt doing anything wrong besides taking the opportunity to don his fursuit in a place where he feels comfortable doing so
  68. [10:41:51 AM] The Shad: Why the fuck not?
  69. [10:42:02 AM] WordBird: because theres not a lot of public places fursuiter furries can do that
  70. [10:42:13 AM] The Shad: The guy is just having fun
  71. [10:42:23 AM] Tatzel Shepard: because I already said it's not a furry event
  72. [10:42:24 AM] The Shad: why the fuck you're hating on him for no good or sensible reasons is beyond me
  73. [10:42:28 AM] The Shad: so what
  74. [10:42:37 AM] Tatzel Shepard: so why the hell is he wearing it then
  75. [10:42:40 AM] WordBird: so what if its not a furry event though
  76. [10:42:45 AM | Edited 10:42:47 AM] The Shad: He's allowed to do what he wants to do
  77. [10:42:47 AM] Tatzel Shepard: it's really for no other reason than "HEY LOOK AT ME"
  78. [10:42:50 AM] Tatzel Shepard: not even that
  79. [10:42:55 AM] Tatzel Shepard: there is no fucking reason
  80. [10:42:55 AM] The Shad: You don't even know that!
  81. [10:42:58 AM] The Shad: You assume that!
  82. [10:42:58 AM] Tatzel Shepard: HEY LET ME BE DIFFERENT
  83. [10:43:03 AM] WordBird: thats like saying people shouldnt cosplay anime/game characters at comicon
  84. [10:43:03 AM] Tatzel Shepard: LET ME SHOW HOW SPECIAL I AM
  85. [10:43:06 AM] Tatzel Shepard: I'M A FURRY
  86. [10:43:10 AM] WordBird: or game/comic characters and anime conventions
  87. [10:43:16 AM] Tatzel Shepard: I HAVE TO WEAR MY FURSUIT FUCKING EVERYWHERE
  88. [10:43:18 AM] WordBird: at*
  89. [10:43:19 AM] The Shad: Wow
  90. [10:43:22 AM] WordBird: uh
  91. [10:43:27 AM] The Shad: I can't believe you're saying this bullshit
  92. [10:43:30 AM] WordBird: whats wrong with wearing his fursuit everywhere?
  93. [10:43:34 AM] WordBird: he likes doing so
  94. [10:43:40 AM] Malum: who cares -myk
  95. [10:43:55 AM] The Shad: exactly, who the fuck cares about his fursuit
  96. [10:43:56 AM] WordBird: not because hes trying to be special but probably because he just feels more comfortable in his fursuit?
  97. [10:44:34 AM] Zink: no it's probably the former, let's be honest here
  98. [10:44:37 AM] Tatzel Shepard: [10:43 AM] WordBird:
  99.  
  100. <<< thats like saying people shouldnt cosplay anime/game characters at comiconif he was cosplaying a game character at there okay, but he's neither playing a game character, nor is this a furry event
  101. [10:44:44 AM] WordBird: so?
  102. [10:44:46 AM | Edited 10:44:58 AM] Uh-vatar: the only problem i have with fursuits is if they have inappropriate...parts and one wears them in public, or if one decides to wear them outside, during the middle of summer
  103. that's actually dangerous to your health
  104. [10:44:56 AM] The Shad: [10:45 AM] Zink:
  105.  
  106. <<< no it's probably the former, let's be honest herehow do you know that?
  107. [10:44:59 AM] The Shad: WHY do you assume that?
  108. [10:45:02 AM] WordBird: an anime convention is neither a comic or video game event yet its ok for there to be comic/game cosplays
  109. [10:45:05 AM] The Shad: Are you that much in need of something to hate?
  110. [10:45:06 AM] Tatzel Shepard: I just don't understand why he has to do that
  111. [10:45:17 AM] Tatzel Shepard: why can't he just go to it with a shirt and pants like a normal person
  112. [10:45:23 AM] WordBird: and comic cons are neither anime nor game events yet its ok for there to be anime and game cosplays there
  113. [10:45:31 AM] WordBird: why do fursuits have to be different?
  114. [10:45:40 AM] The Shad: I just don't understand why he wouldn't be able to do that
  115. [10:45:48 AM] WordBird: he did it because he wanted to and, ultimately, it doesnt matter
  116. [10:45:57 AM] WordBird: he wanted to and he can
  117. [10:46:04 AM | Edited 10:46:09 AM] Tatzel Shepard: yes but it doesn't make it okay
  118. [10:46:05 AM] The Shad: it's fun and he likes it and it doesn't disturb people (besides the judgemental ones apparently)
  119. [10:46:11 AM] WordBird: why isnt it ok though
  120. [10:46:19 AM] Tatzel Shepard: god I said it so many times already
  121. [10:46:22 AM] WordBird: aside from absurd furry hate
  122. [10:46:23 AM] WordBird: because
  123. [10:46:26 AM] WordBird: thats not a real reason
  124. [10:46:28 AM] WordBird: sorry to say
  125. [10:46:37 AM] Malum: the only real reason i can think of...
  126. [10:46:47 AM] The Shad: Tatzel, you haven't brought up a single valid point for him not getting into a fursuit
  127. [10:46:57 AM] The Shad: You said "I think it's stupid" and "I think it doesn't belong there"
  128. [10:46:59 AM] Malum: Is because some furries are in it for like sex
  129. [10:46:59 AM] Tatzel Shepard: in all honesty? if you're saying "so what" when he appears in a fursuit at that event, I'm allowed to say "so what" when you don't understand me
  130. [10:47:04 AM] WordBird: the only reason youve brought up is "fucking furries >:(((((((((("
  131. [10:47:04 AM] Malum: which isnt completely
  132. [10:47:05 AM] Malum: true
  133. [10:47:09 AM] Malum: and is stupid
  134. [10:47:14 AM] The Shad: No, that's stupid Tatzel
  135. [10:47:22 AM] Tatzel Shepard: but I really don't care
  136. [10:47:34 AM] WordBird: he allowed to wear a fursuit if he chooses to and its not against the rules
  137. [10:47:38 AM] WordBird: and it wasnt against the rules
  138. [10:47:38 AM] Tatzel Shepard: I think it's bullshit and it doesn't belong there
  139. [10:47:39 AM] WordBird: so he did
  140. [10:47:42 AM | Edited 10:47:51 AM] Zink: honestly if you ask me most of the players should be wearing something better than a novelty t-shirt and plaid shorts as well
  141. [10:47:42 AM] The Shad: you're just saying, "I don't know how to rationally explain what I think, so I'm just gonna tell people that it's how I think no matter how dumb it is and how little sens it makes"
  142. [10:47:43 AM] WordBird: because whats wrong with it?
  143. [10:47:44 AM] WordBird: nothing
  144. [10:47:50 AM] WordBird: its not like hes yiffing everything
  145. [10:47:55 AM] Tatzel Shepard: and I said at the very beginning you can't change my opinion
  146. [10:47:56 AM] WordBird: hes just walking around in a costume he enjoys
  147. [10:47:58 AM] WordBird: because he can
  148. [10:48:01 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: It can still bother people
  149. [10:48:03 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: christ
  150. [10:48:29 AM] Tatzel Shepard: thanks Crush
  151. [10:48:41 AM] WordBird: i mean heck sometimes i see really awesome and intricate fursuits and im like dang i wish i was a rich furry id wear that fucker around all the time like bitch im fabulous
  152. [10:48:42 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: It's not a question of rules or regulation
  153. [10:48:44 AM] The Shad: [10:48 AM] Tatzel Shepard:
  154.  
  155. <<< and I said at the very beginning you can't change my opinionWhat a wonderful way to think when discussing things
  156. [10:48:47 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: you can still be bothered by something
  157. [10:48:48 AM] Zink: I mean if I were going to be in a stream with an audience of thousands of people I'd at least pretend to dress nicely
  158. [10:48:48 AM] Malum: but you dont have to bitch abotu it
  159. [10:48:57 AM] The Shad: I can't wait for you to finally get out of there and be able to grow up, Tatzel
  160. [10:48:59 AM] The Shad: Honestly.
  161. [10:49:08 AM] Zink: niice
  162. [10:49:13 AM] Tatzel Shepard: oh are we suddenly on that topic again
  163. [10:49:15 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: Yeah cause you seem so quick to change your opinions
  164. [10:49:24 AM] Tatzel Shepard: says the guy who isn't doing any better
  165. [10:49:28 AM] The Shad: [10:48 AM] Ser Crushter the Red:
  166.  
  167. <<< It can still bother people
  168. christWhat I meant is
  169. [10:49:40 AM] The Shad: It doesn't bother them besides the "Oh, I don't like fursuits"
  170. [10:49:45 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: Yeah? And?
  171. [10:49:49 AM] The Shad: Like, okay, I don't like stuff either
  172. [10:49:51 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: Do you need more than that?
  173. [10:49:52 AM] Zink: Man we're just saying its innappropriate dress
  174. [10:50:00 AM] The Shad: But who cares? I'm not gonna bitch about it
  175. [10:50:05 AM] The Shad: I'm gonna be a grown up and ignore it
  176. [10:50:11 AM] The Shad: instead of hating
  177. [10:50:15 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: That's a perception of being Grown Up
  178. [10:50:27 AM] Malum: Who cares -myk
  179. [10:50:32 AM] Malum: who
  180. [10:50:33 AM] Malum: cares
  181. [10:50:39 AM] Malum: it's their decision
  182. [10:50:39 AM] Tatzel Shepard: oh okay so I'm not allowed to state my opinion anymore when I get bothered by something, okay
  183. [10:50:42 AM] Malum: if you dont like it
  184. [10:50:46 AM] Malum: dont wear a fucking fursuit
  185. [10:50:48 AM] Malum: there
  186. [10:50:50 AM] Malum: that simple
  187. [10:51:03 AM] WordBird: personally as long as a person isnt being a creep(that implies yiffing all over shit and creeping on people; wearing a fursuit is not actually inherently creepy), idgaf where they wear their fursuits
  188. [10:51:26 AM] Zink: If it makes you guys feel better I'd be as cynical if a guy showed up in a non-furry related costume
  189. [10:51:30 AM] WordBird: if theyre just being a normal person that is also wearing a fursuit, more power to them
  190. [10:51:53 AM] WordBird: its just a costume that makes them happy
  191. [10:52:13 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: What if someone's creeped out by them just being there in the suit
  192. [10:52:26 AM] WordBird: then thats the problem of the person whos creeped out
  193. [10:52:26 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: Whether it's a phobia or just a natural dislike for it
  194. [10:52:36 AM] WordBird: and they need to get over it because theres nothing inherently wrong with it
  195. [10:52:38 AM] WordBird: or just ignore it
  196. [10:52:46 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: get over it[10:53 AM] Ser Crushter the Red:
  197.  
  198. <<< phobia
  199. [10:52:54 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: I don't think you understand what a phobia is
  200. [10:52:56 AM] WordBird: fursuitphobia isnt a thing sry
  201. [10:53:06 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: There's a phobia of phobias
  202. [10:53:16 AM] Malum: I HAVE
  203. [10:53:20 AM] Malum: HATPHOBIA
  204. [10:53:25 AM] Malum: NOBODY IS ALLOWED TO WEAR HATS EVER
  205. [10:53:32 AM] Zink: Yeah its completely irrational to be creeped out of by someone who is wearing a full-body costume that completely hides their identity
  206. [10:53:36 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: a phobia of people wearing suits or anthro animals isn't a far off thing
  207. [10:53:47 AM] WordBird: so just because some 1 person out of a whole fucking lot has a phobia of something, means that other people cant do something?
  208. [10:53:50 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: I mean, mascots make me edgy
  209. [10:53:52 AM] Malum: I HAVE
  210. [10:53:52 AM] WordBird: some people have phobias of furniture
  211. [10:53:55 AM] Malum: CLOTHESPHOBIA
  212. [10:53:55 AM] WordBird: ban furniture pls
  213. [10:53:55 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: I didn't say that did I?
  214. [10:53:58 AM] Zink: This is kind of surreal
  215. [10:53:59 AM] Malum: NOBODY IS ALLOWED TO WEAR CLOTHES
  216. [10:54:00 AM] WordBird: you kinda implied it
  217. [10:54:04 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: No I didn't
  218. [10:54:08 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: you're jumping to conclusions
  219. [10:54:18 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: I was posing a devil's advocate
  220. [10:54:19 AM] WordBird: that if someone happens to have a fursuit phobia then obviously no one can wear fursuits, is exactly what you implied
  221. [10:54:33 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: You're projecting now
  222. [10:54:37 AM] WordBird: no im not actually
  223. [10:54:43 AM] WordBird: youre avoiding the issue
  224. [10:54:43 AM] Malum: we're not on /v/ crushter
  225. [10:54:50 AM] Malum: stop using shitty arguments
  226. [10:54:58 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: Malum projecting and implying are common things in speech classes
  227. [10:55:07 AM] WordBird: how am i projecting though
  228. [10:55:09 AM] WordBird: im not even a furry
  229. [10:55:24 AM] Tatzel Shepard: by putting words into Crush's mouth
  230. [10:55:27 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: You're automatically assuming that I questioned your statement that I have an agenda
  231. [10:55:39 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: or that I am against furries or fursuits
  232. [10:55:42 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: I'm not, personally
  233. [10:56:04 AM] WordBird: i just think its pretty shitty to say that just because some asshole might be uncomfortable with furries or someone MIGHT have a one in a million chance of having a furryphobia, some guy whos minding his own business and being a decent fellow cant wear what amounts to a costume that makes him happy
  234. [10:56:07 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: But it's kind of offensive to assume nobody wouldn't mind a fursuit
  235. [10:56:25 AM] WordBird: so
  236. [10:56:27 AM] WordBird: thats
  237. [10:56:28 AM] WordBird: their
  238. [10:56:29 AM] WordBird: problem
  239. [10:56:34 AM] Zink: Can I just say that this is extremely ironic
  240. [10:56:45 AM] WordBird: theres nothing inherently wrong with wearing a fursuit
  241. [10:56:58 AM] WordBird: dude should be able to wear it wherever the fuck he wants
  242. [10:57:00 AM] Zink: That you are making an argument that is basically the same thing as "if you are offended it is your fault for being offended"
  243. [10:57:01 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: So you're just saying deal with it to someone's feelings, as long as they're the opposite of yours?
  244. [10:57:02 AM] Tatzel Shepard: it's someone's fault for getting offended by something?
  245. [10:57:17 AM] WordBird: offended by furries
  246. [10:57:21 AM] Malum: A phobia means "irrational fear"
  247. [10:57:21 AM] Malum: so
  248. [10:57:23 AM] Tatzel Shepard: does that mean I can call you ugly and when you get upset I say it's your fault?
  249. [10:57:33 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: I'm not saying you're wrong, infact I think a lot of people make a big fucking deal out of nothing, but still. Think about that
  250. [10:57:52 AM] Ser Crushter the Red: I'm going back to pokemon
  251. [10:58:02 AM] WordBird: the thing is though that if theres nothing inherently wrong with what some asshole is considering offensive, then yes, that's their problem.
  252.  
  253. because its not like its racist or anything
  254. [10:58:10 AM] Zink: Ah I see its different when you do it because
  255. [10:58:48 AM] The Shad: Shut the fuck up.
  256. [10:58:52 AM] The Shad: All of you.
  257. [10:58:56 AM] Malum: why
  258. [10:59:02 AM] The Shad: I'll kick you out if I need
  259. [10:59:12 AM] Tatzel Shepard: Shad I want my game back please.
  260. [10:59:12 AM] Malum: but
  261. [10:59:18 AM] The Shad: tough luck
  262. [10:59:23 AM] Cygnus: because now we've reached the point where we're not even really arguing about the fursuiter, we're just going 'im better at arguing than you are'
  263. [10:59:37 AM] The Shad: Exactly
  264. [10:59:57 AM] Tatzel Shepard: Oh are you going to steal my stuff now? Okay
  265. [11:00:36 AM] The Shad: You know how to piss me off, but because I'm not gonna respond
  266. [11:00:40 AM] The Shad: anyways
  267. [11:00:44 AM] The Shad: family over for dinner
  268. [11:00:48 AM] The Shad: see you people later
  269. [11:01:02 AM] Malum: bye
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