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+ innit  15:26:27
Boys and girls are close to equal before puberty
Ross  15:26:36
hi guys & gals
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+ innit  15:26:57
I don't believe Federer, but, anyways, that is anecdotal
There have been widespread studies of multiple sports and men have statistically significant advantages
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@ BlackXanthus  15:27:32
Shirakawasuna: sure thing, but I'm all for having a mixed leauge, and a male leuge and a female leauge. Solve the problem right there.
+ innit  15:27:39
BlackXanthus, I encourage you to watch that video
It's superb
+ Pikko  15:27:46
Any sport that feels 'unfair' to the participants will lose their participants. The participants will either gradually consider it 'fair' or move to play a game that seems fair to them.
+ innit  15:27:49
Tell me what you disagree with in it
@ BlackXanthus  15:27:56
innit: nah, I try not to watch anything supported by TERFS
+ innit  15:28:03
What's that?
TERF (/ˈtɛrf/, also written terf) is an acronym for "trans-exclusionary radical feminist". Coined in 2008, the term is applied to a minority of feminists who espouse transphobic sentiments, including opposition to transgender rights and the inclusion of trans women in women's spaces, or rejection that trans women are women. While these feminists perceive the term to be a slur, mainstream feminists, other academics, and trans people have rejected this view.
Ross  15:28:28
pro-baseball team should have girls on em .... pro-football would be different with the girls
+ innit  15:28:48
Who's the terf?
Me, or the channel (or both)
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+ innit  15:29:27
My only alliance is to science
I reject all alliances and duties that violate scientific knowledge
I honor and obey all duties that stem from scientific knowledge
+ innit  15:30:54
I consider the term terf to be a pejorative
It includes the word "radical" in the acronym
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+ innit  15:31:20
This term should not be used in high-quality conversation
@ BlackXanthus  15:31:41
innit: I don't use it in heigh-quality conversation.
+ innit  15:32:05
BlackXanthus, I feel you're violating the teachings of Christ right now
Does that concern you, if it were true
shakya  15:32:16
fortunately there is none of that in this channel
+ innit  15:32:33
I feel you're slandering me, not being patient with me, and not loving me
Jesus commanded you to never slander, to be extremely patient, and to love your neighbor
@ BlackXanthus  15:32:57
innit: not particularly. I've watched this conversation going round, and round, and round. I've watched you ignore Shirakawasuna's requests, and then cling to a single video as your proof.
+ innit  15:33:26
You're not particularly concerned if you're violating Jesus' teachings?
@ BlackXanthus  15:33:34
innit: on your say-so?
+ innit  15:33:37
Does that concern you, if it were true
"innit: not particularly."
shakya  15:33:46
innit: Are you new here?
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+ innit  15:34:14
BlackXanthus, I already anticipated this response
+ Pikko  15:34:21
innit, why expect high-quality conversartion here? Most topics being discussed here are extremely emotionally charged and divisive to the core. No minds will be changed in this place, nor even a greater sense of mutual understanding of the values of the rationale within the opponent's argument. Frustration is only the result if anyone has that high a hope.
+ innit  15:34:21
"If it were true"
@ BlackXanthus  15:34:21
innit: am I concerned about your opinion of me? no. Am I concerned about your claim to understand theology? no.
+ innit  15:34:28
"innit: on your say-so? "
BlackXanthus, I was going to quote the Gospel to you
+ RichG  15:34:46
shakya: i am not new… I am fully clothed
+ innit  15:34:52
Are you concerned with quotes from the Gospel
Gospels
+ RichG  15:34:56
look the comedians a bear
no I’m not, I’m wearing a tie
@ BlackXanthus  15:35:11
innit:  So, we're now going to do theology? Okay, so, first, what's your school? So I know how to respond?
+ innit  15:35:31
My theology is quoting from the Gospels and asking you if you're living up to the standard
shakya  15:35:45
Martin Luther wrote in his introduction to the Sermon on the Mount: "More ink has been spilt and more arguments made by theologians to twist the meaning of Jesus' sermon in order to make it say anything other than what it plainly says. I call this: 'The Devil's Masterwork.'"
@ BlackXanthus  15:35:48
innit: ahh, so, your a proof-texter?
+ RenaissanceMan  15:35:51
Why the Space Corps nees to use naval rank: So that they can have Admirals instead of Generals. http://www.thespacereview.com/article/3761/1
+ innit  15:36:00
!niv James1:19
BibleBot  15:36:02
Jas1:19 My dear brothers, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, (NIV)
+ innit  15:36:14
What do you think of that in this context, BlackXanthus
+ RenaissanceMan  15:36:18
Image what star trek would be if Admiral James T. Kirk were General James T. Kirk. The horror.
+ RichG  15:36:36
shakya: Luther ended up as an alchoholic
shakya  15:36:55
RichG: I'm surprised more christian pastors don't.
@ BlackXanthus  15:37:11
innit: in the context of the letter of James? or in the context of the Gospel as a whole?
+ innit  15:37:34
In the context of your speech to me
+ RichG  15:37:47
shakya: yeah, it’s gotta be a horrible job
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+ innit  15:38:23
You were unkind to me, BlackXanthus
Your speech hurt me
@ BlackXanthus  15:38:31
innit: So, your proof text is that you reach for a single text as a slam-dunk understanding of you spouting, in monologue, your view that Cis and Trans women cannot compete in the same leuge because of some half-understood approach to genetics?
+ innit  15:38:56
That seems extremely uncharitable
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@ BlackXanthus  15:39:01
innit: if my speech hurt you by suggesting that this was not a high-quality debate, then I would suggest you might want to do a few things in your debate.
+ enChristo  15:39:01
battle of the underdog fringe groups ?
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+ innit  15:39:24
BlackXanthus, you have given false witness against me
This is wrong
@ BlackXanthus  15:39:36
innit:: 1. provide more links than a youtube channel 2. respond when someone coutners your argument 3. engage in the argument rather than saying 'fallacy 4. When claiming fallacy, explain which fallacy your including.
* BlackXanthus laughs
shakya  15:39:49
BlackXanthus sexually harrassed me. #metoo
LOL
* shakya is a victim.
Everyone, come to my help!
+ RichG  15:40:04
oh lord
@ BlackXanthus  15:40:07
shakya: you will *withdraw* that slander, or you will be banned.
+ enChristo  15:40:09
omg when both groups are social underdogs they both must be correct by virtue of being underdogs
@ BlackXanthus  15:40:12
shakya: this is your one, and only warning.
shakya  15:40:12
Avengers Assemble!
+ RichG  15:40:24
bye bye
shakya  15:40:27
BlackXanthus: I apologize. I forget Poe's law.
That was sarcasm.
@ BlackXanthus  15:40:48
shakya: Then consider this your warning. Such an attack is *not* welcome here. You do that again, and you are OUT.
+ enChristo  15:40:58
women are underdogs yes
+ CriticalPurple  15:41:03
another victime on ignore :)
+ enChristo  15:41:04
perhaps the original underdogs
+ innit  15:41:05
BlackXanthus, do you agree bearing false witness is disallowed in Christianity?
I have claimed you have given false witness about me
@ BlackXanthus  15:41:22
innit: you can claim that. Now proove it.
shakya  15:41:23
I didn't consider it an attack, but parody of innit's victim cries... but I will keep the atmosphere of the room in mind. :)
+ innit  15:41:25
"your view that Cis and Trans women cannot compete in the same leuge"
Ross  15:41:27
hi CriticalPurple, how's business
+ enChristo  15:41:35
correction: is this a battle of underdog social groups ?
+ CriticalPurple  15:41:35
BlackXanthus Another day at the OK Corral, eH?
+ innit  15:41:43
That is not my position, however.
+ enChristo  15:41:50
good then
carry on
+ CriticalPurple  15:41:53
Ross Slow right now, no fairs until August
Ross  15:42:05
is boris johnson a brother of trump
+ CriticalPurple  15:42:12
What is a cis?
@ BlackXanthus  15:42:30
innit: then, there's no problem. Problem solved.
+ enChristo  15:42:41
heaven forfend a battle between social underdog groups because there would be no way of deciding between their competing social justice claims
@ BlackXanthus  15:42:49
CriticalPurple: Cis, as opposed to Trans. Cis meaning *this side* trans meaning *that side*. See: TransJordans.
+ innit  15:42:50
Do you agree you gave false witness against me?
I would like you to apologize for that.
+ CriticalPurple  15:43:04
BlackXanthus LOL
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+ CriticalPurple  15:43:26
BlackXanthus What is wrong with calling a real woman a woman?
BlackXanthus and the trans a confused male.
+ RichG  15:43:40
Good grief… the comedians a bear… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH2coWVi9Vg
@ BlackXanthus  15:43:42
innit: no, it means I just disagreed with you. False Witness implies that I'm intentionally trying to destroy your character, leading to your death.
+ innit  15:43:59
I support transwomen competing in women leagues, as long as their biomarkers associated with performance are in range of ciswomen, as otherwise it's equivalent to them being ciswomen who have taken illegal PEDs.
+ enChristo  15:43:59
can we all just agree to bow down to the dignity of whatever minority is claiming special status this week and be done with it ?
+ CriticalPurple  15:44:02
Ross Online is almost zero
@ BlackXanthus  15:44:11
CriticalPurple: it's not just applied to women. trans men and trans women.
+ CriticalPurple  15:44:21
enChristo I bow to no one.
+ innit  15:44:23
BlackXanthus, I was very clear on my position, and your claim about my position was wildly off.
@ BlackXanthus  15:44:25
CriticalPurple: and, they are not confused, they know eactly what they want.
+ innit  15:44:34
You're responsible for your speech.
+ enChristo  15:44:43
only underdogs can have virtue these days
+ CriticalPurple  15:44:48
BlackXanthus I wont use it, I just looked it up, started being used in mid 70s
@ BlackXanthus  15:44:49
innit: thank you for pointing out the obvious.
CriticalPurple: yep.
+ innit  15:45:00
BlackXanthus, do you think you're loving me right now?
I don't.
+ CriticalPurple  15:45:06
BlackXanthus If a man thinks he is a woman, he is confused.
@ BlackXanthus  15:45:06
CriticalPurple: I mean, if youw ant to keep insulting people, that's up to you.
tzip  15:45:22
lol!
+ CriticalPurple  15:45:23
BlackXanthus I have no insulted anyone
+ enChristo  15:45:35
have no Facebook a/c
@ BlackXanthus  15:45:39
CriticalPurple: well, yes, by intentionally choosing to mis-gender someone, you are insulting them.
+ enChristo  15:45:43
am quite comfortable here thanks
+ CriticalPurple  15:45:53
BlackXanthus Tehre are males and females.
BlackXanthus anything else is an abomination
+ enChristo  15:46:14
tut tut , let's just agree to whatever disadvantaged groups want to claim in the interest of social justice shall we ?
@ BlackXanthus  15:46:30
CriticalPurple: well, no, there's those that identify as male, to all those that identify as female, and everything in between, beyond, and none of the above.
tzip  15:46:33
CriticalPurple, there are physiological hermaphrodites too.   Do you believe that or would you like a citation?  If so, I'll go looking for one.
@ BlackXanthus  15:46:53
CriticalPurple: and there you go again being insulting. 'abomination' is quite an insult.
+ CriticalPurple  15:46:58
BlackXanthus And they try to take away my freedom of speech to support their mental illness, not gonna do it
+ innit  15:47:06
BlackXanthus, you failed to meet the standard of Jesus in your dealings with me today.
+ CriticalPurple  15:47:12
BlackXanthus Who am I insulting?
@ BlackXanthus  15:47:27
CriticalPurple: your freedom of speech to insult people, but freedom of speech does not require us to listen.
+ innit  15:47:29
You appear to no longer be interested in dealing with my mental state, even though it's a great opportunity for us to live according to the teachings of Jesus.
+ CriticalPurple  15:47:34
BlackXanthus What person here have I insulted?
@ BlackXanthus  15:47:46
CriticalPurple: so, here it goes, it's against the rules to insult people, so you will actually either a) move on or b) appologise.
+ CriticalPurple  15:47:54
Show me the statement with my nick
Mickey52  15:48:00
 Its a xenopohobic Trumpian thing
+ CriticalPurple  15:48:04
I have not insulted anyone
@ BlackXanthus  15:48:16
CriticalPurple: [23:45] (CriticalPurple) BlackXanthus Tehre are males and females.
CriticalPurple: here is you insulting 'everything not male or female'.
+ CriticalPurple  15:48:28
Yes. that is a fact of nature
+ innit  15:48:31
CriticalPurple, you don't need to apologize by the standard of BlackXanthus.
tzip  15:48:33
CriticalPurple, to call anyone "an abomination" isn't .. uh.. on the 'compliment' side of the scale.
@ BlackXanthus  15:48:34
CriticalPurple: no, it's not.
+ CriticalPurple  15:48:40
There is nothing other than male and female
@ BlackXanthus  15:48:49
CriticalPurple: in fact, it's so far from being a fact of nature it doesn't even bare considering.
+ innit  15:48:55
BlackXanthus, it's shocking for me to watch you right now.
+ CriticalPurple  15:49:07
The Bible says that God created man and woman.
+ innit  15:49:11
There is another human in your community reaching out to you.
@ BlackXanthus  15:49:14
CriticalPurple: there's male, female, hermaphrodites, those that can change from one gender to the other, and those that have no gender until reproduction is required.
+ innit  15:49:20
According to the teachings of Christ, I should be equated with God.
+ CriticalPurple  15:49:26
The Bible says that God created man and woman.
+ innit  15:49:30
And how you treat me is how you will be treated by God.
Mickey52  15:49:36
The Bible says God created ALL creatures, Man and woman are but two.
+ innit  15:49:39
And you have almost no interest in my well-being.
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+ CriticalPurple  15:50:04
I am 100% inline with the Bible. God made only male and females
+ innit  15:50:06
Which, according to Christ, means God will have almost no concern for your well-being.
@ BlackXanthus  15:50:09
innit: if you feel that I have born false-witness against you because I disagreed with you you really need to go and look up what 'false witness' means. Now, being as no-one is engaging with you, more banging that drum is pointless.
+ innit  15:50:34
BlackXanthus, I detect not the slightest amount of love from you.
I detect no spirit of Christ coming from you.
I am the most important thing in the universe, according to Jesus.
As are you.
As are all humans.
Every moment is a chance for you to live out the love and acceptance of those around you.
@ BlackXanthus  15:51:40
CriticalPurple: Biology disagrees, science disagrees. In fact, the very existence of them goes right to our understanding of God, as God made both in his image, so it raises the question of whether or not God has a gender.
+ innit  15:51:46
And when we gather in Jesus' name, he will be there, too.
@ BlackXanthus  15:51:47
innit: please stop proslotysing.
+ innit  15:51:50
This is what the Gospels teach.
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Ignoring BlackXanthus
+ CriticalPurple  15:52:37
!NIV GEN 1:27
BibleBot  15:52:39
Ge1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. (NIV)
+ innit  15:52:44
I am not able to be patient with you any longer, BlackXanthus.
+ RichG  15:52:46
"Hello everyone"... The History of Byzantium » Episode 195 - King of the Ashes. https://player.fm/series/series-1440129/episode-195-king-of-the-ashes/ We follow the flailing administration of Michael VII as it slowly collapses under the immense weight of events. Then we watch as the remaining Roman Generals line up one after another as each attempts to burn the Empire down in order to become King of the Ashes.
+ innit  15:53:02
You are hurting and frustrated and you are not able to be Christ-like with me at this time.
+ CriticalPurple  15:53:09
BlackXanthus Bible calls it an abomination
+ innit  15:53:13
May you experience peace.
CriticalPurple  15:53:28
He
tzip  15:53:35
oooooooooooooooh Fen, that site hits things squarely on the head, doesn't it.
CriticalPurple  15:53:42
So God created man in his own image,
see th word 'his'?
BlackXanthus and now you are trying to take away my freedom
tzip  15:54:21
so women aren't in God's image.   We're just sort of.. alien.    Don't fit in anywhere.
CriticalPurple  15:54:40
BlackXanthus Yiu are trying to take away my freedom of religion and my freedom of speech.
BlackXanthus You are accusing me of insulting people when I have not done so.
innit  15:55:16
BlackXanthus was a very bad ambassador of Christ with me today, Father.
+ RenaissanceMan  15:55:16
Fortuantely BlackXanthus isn't the US government.
innit  15:55:37
Why are so many Christians bad ambassadors for Christ, Father?
CriticalPurple  15:55:47
I'll come back when there are ops here that support the Bible
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innit  15:55:55
I know it is quite difficult to meet that standard, but I wish they would do better.
I wish Christians would help spread the loving parts of Jesus' message and make this world of ours a better place to live, Father.
15:56:43
* tzip suspects the Bible writers were focused on things other than the bedroom issues we're so obsessed with...
innit  15:57:14
This is an opportunity for me to be a good ambassador for Christ, Father.
It's very difficult for me right now, Father.
I seek solace and help, Father.
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