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So?

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This is the only alligator.

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Four minutes past. We walk in one minute.
He was clear on that.

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He's coming.

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No, he's too young to
have that kind of access.

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Uh, what time does
the restaurant open?

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Noon. But the food's
a little too spicy.

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This way.

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- Excuse me.
- Uh-huh.

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Thank you.

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Right here.

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It's, uh, really great
to finally meet you guys.

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So, first thing, can I get
your cell phones, please?

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Thank you.

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We want Laura to be
the only one recording, right?

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As discussed? Thank you.

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I actually bought this.
It blocks UHF frequencies.

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You've been
photographed before, right?

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Yeah, it's been a while
since anybody took a photo of me, so...

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Try thinking of
this as your friend.

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Take your time.

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Um...

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Can you start by telling us
why you did what you did

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and, uh, how you gained access

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to such a vast
amount of information,

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all of which I read on the plane

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- and...
- Glenn.

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Uh, how about we just start
with your name? Okay?

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My name is
Edward Joseph Snowden.

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I'm 29 years old.

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I work as a private
contractor for the NSA.

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I've also worked as
a private contractor

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for the CIA and directly
for the Agency.

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I've worked in various jobs
in the intelligence industry

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for the last nine years.

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I've been a systems engineer, uh,
been a solutions consultant...

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Uh...

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And a senior advisor for
the Central Intelligence Agency.

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- Rangers...
- Rangers...

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- Rangers...
- Rangers...

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So you wanna be Special Forces?

42
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Sir, yes, sir!

43
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I think Special Forces
would be ashamed

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to call you soldiers.
Am I right?

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Sir, no, sir!

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Your left.
Your left, right. Your left.

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Went from driving Cadillacs

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Went from driving Cadillacs

49
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To driving convoys in Iraq

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To driving convoys in Iraq

51
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Move it, soldier!

52
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Go! Go!
Move now!

53
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Move!
You better get going!

54
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Pick it up, you waste of space!

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Let's move!

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Come on, soldier! Go!

57
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Come on, darling!

58
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Snowden?
What the hell are you doing?

59
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Nothing, sir!

60
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Where is your fucking heart?
Right here, sir!

61
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I want you to reach way down in
that pathetic excuse of a chest,

62
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and you rip it out.

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You find your heart,
and then you get

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your broke ass on my tower!
You got that?

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Sir, yes, sir!

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Now get the fuck out of my face!

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I need you on my tower,
gentlemen! Let's move!

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Move! Move! Let's go!

69
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Rise and shine, maggots!

70
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Get your hands off your dicks, and
get the fuck out of my barracks!

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You guys got one minute!

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Fall out! Move, move, move!

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Get the hell out here! Get
the hell out of my barracks!

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Move it!
Keep moving!

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Let's go!
All right, gentlemen.

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- Harrison?
- Here!

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- Carson?
- Here!

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- Ramirez?
- Here!

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Fuck!

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- Pierce?
- Here!

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Coulson?
Help!

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Snowden!

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Snowden!
Where the fuck is Snowden?

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Help!

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You know, you've been walking
around on two broken legs...

86
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Best I can tell, for weeks.

87
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Now this is what happens when
you put a 80-pound rucksack

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on a 150-pound body.

89
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You get these little stress
fractures and...

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- Easy.
- Sorry.

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They build up in your tibias.

92
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You don't get off of 'em,
and eventually they just bust.

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Now, you're gonna be
here for a few weeks,

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and then I'd count on
another eight weeks or so

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on the crutches.

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Okay,
and then when do I go back?

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Son, you ever again
land on those legs of yours,

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airborne or not, those
bones will turn to powder.

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I'm gonna authorize
an administrative discharge.

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Plenty of other ways
to serve your country.

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Have you ever committed
a crime for which you weren't caught?

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No.

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Have you ever
cheated on an exam?

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No.

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Do you believe the United States

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is the greatest
country in the world?

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Yes.

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Why do you want to join the CIA?

109
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How would you
explain the Internet to a child?

110
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Granddad retired as
an admiral and joined the FBI.

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Dad's in the Coast Guard,
30-year man.

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What has been the
most important day in your life?

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9/11.

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We thought my grandfather
was inside the Pentagon.

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Uh, turned out he was
off-site that day.

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You wanted to be Special Forces?

117
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Yes, sir. Yeah, I love their motto.
De oppresso liber.

118
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Is that what you hope to do
with us? Free people from oppression?

119
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I'd like to help my country
make a difference in the world.

120
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Uh, the Internet is a technology

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that has the power

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to let everyone in the world
understand each other.

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Missed a perfect score on the
ASVAB test by a single question.

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Crushed the language
learning test.

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Some Mandarin, some Japanese.

126
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And no high school diploma.

127
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So why did you stop
attending high school?

128
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I had to make money. My parents
were divorcing at the time.

129
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Any other influences?

130
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I'd say Joseph Campbell,

131
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Star Wars, Thoreau, Ayn Rand...

132
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One man can stop
the motor of the world.

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Atlas Shrugged.
Yes, sir. I believe that.

134
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Let's try again.

135
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Why do you want to join the CIA?

136
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Uh...

137
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Well, frankly, sir,

138
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it sounds really cool to have
top security clearance.

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It's not enough.

140
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Ordinarily. But these
are not ordinary times.

141
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Bombs won't stop terrorism,
brains will,

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and we don't have
nearly enough of those.

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I'm gonna give you
a shot, Snowden.

144
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Thank you, sir. Thank you very much.
You won't regret this.

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My name's Corbin O'Brian.

146
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I have many titles,
among them Senior Instructor.

147
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You'll be joining
my class at The Hill.

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Stop the vehicle.

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Shut off the engine.

150
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I need to see your ID.

151
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All right. Using your left
hand only, pop the trunk.

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Now place your hands

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through the steering wheel
on the dashboard.

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Through the steering wheel.

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On the dashboard.
Do not exit the vehicle.

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Right here. Right here.

157
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Excuse me.

158
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You'll be looking
for Corbin's class.

159
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End of the hall, keep going
through the second set of doors.

160
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Thank you.
Is that an Enigma?

161
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No.
Enigma was broken.

162
00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,810
This is the follow up,
the Sigaba. Never broken.

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Cold War's greatest
encryption machine.

164
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Tides of history ticked with
this motor and these rotors.

165
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Wow! One day everyone's gonna
want a machine like this.

166
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I always wanted to learn cryptography.
What's this one?

167
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The Hot Line.

168
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First direct link between
Washington and Moscow.

169
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Probably
prevented World War III.

170
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You got a name? How do I
know you're not the enemy?

171
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Oh, sorry. Uh,
Snowden. Ed Snowden.

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Hank Forrester.
Where'd you study, Snowden?

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Mostly I'm, uh, self-taught.

174
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You can tell me if you're
busy, but is that a Cray-1?

175
00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,800
Why, yes. Yes, it is.

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The first supercomputer.

177
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You can get all of
this on a cell phone now.

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Yeah. So you're, um,
an engineer?

179
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Am I an engineer?
Instructor and counselor, too.

180
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I'm supposed to keep
an eye on you CTs,

181
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make sure you don't buckle
under the pressure.

182
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Turn to drugs and booze.

183
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Well, you won't have that problem with me.
I don't drink or do drugs.

184
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What is your sin of choice?

185
00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,523
Uh, computers.

186
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Well, then, Snowden, you've come
to the right little whorehouse.

187
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The front lines in
the global war on terror

188
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are not in Iraq or Afghanistan.

189
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They're here. In London,

190
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Berlin,

191
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Istanbul...

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Any server, any connection...

193
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The modern battlefield

194
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is everywhere.

195
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Which means

196
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you don't have to sit in the ditch
eating MREs or dodging mortar fire,

197
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it means that if there is another
9/11, it'll be your fault.

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Just as the last one
was my generation's.

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Believe me, you do not want
to live with that burden.

200
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We're gonna start
with an aptitude test.

201
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Each of you is gonna build
a covert communications network

202
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in your home city,

203
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you're gonna deploy it,
back up your site, destroy it,

204
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and restore it again.

205
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The point of this
exercise is to keep

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your infrastructure up
and running securely.

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The average test
time is five hours.

208
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If you take more than eight,
you will fail.

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Mr. O'Brian?

210
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I'm done, sir.

211
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You don't have to tell me
when you've completed a stage.

212
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No, I finished the whole thing.

213
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It's been 40 minutes.

214
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Thirty-eight.

215
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What?

216
00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:45,811
Thirty-eight minutes.

217
00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,727
Okay. Let's see
where you screwed up.

218
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You didn't say we had
to do it in order, sir.

219
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Sol, uh, broke
the sequence to save time,

220
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and I automated the backup process
to run as I built the site.

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Eyes on screens.

222
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Sir?

223
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What should I do now?

224
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Whatever you want.

225
00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,922
Hey.
Hi.

226
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Finally.
Yeah.

227
00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,481
Um, sorry.

228
00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,244
Do you, um, want anything?

229
00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,051
No. Let's go for a walk.

230
00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,804
You could use some sun.

231
00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,086
Yeah.
You mentioned that earlier.

232
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Sorry it took me
this long. I just...

233
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You didn't want to see me on crutches.
I was not so agile.

234
00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,724
And then this
new job hit. So...

235
00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,246
Oh, yeah, what was it
you were doing again?

236
00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,243
I'm doing analysis for
the State Department.

237
00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,368
Right. Congratulations.
Thanks.

238
00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:01,885
You're welcome.

239
00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,689
Hey, can you do me a favor

240
00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,001
and, um, point in the direction
of the State Department?

241
00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:07,966
Uh...

242
00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,605
Yeah, it's that way.

243
00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,401
Where? Are you sure?

244
00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,285
I mean, I'm not that great
at orienting myself...

245
00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:21,601
Not that great at lying, either.

246
00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,286
You're gonna have to work on
both if you wanna be a spy.

247
00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,490
Where I came from,
everyone's parents

248
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worked for
the "State Department."

249
00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,690
Plus, every time you visited
my website this week,

250
00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,526
which was quite often,
it was from an IP in Virginia.

251
00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,768
You know how to run an IP trace?
Yeah.

252
00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:43,081
I'm pretty sure that the State
Department has no offices in Virginia.

253
00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:46,965
Huh?

254
00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:53,885
All right,
let's see you strut it.

255
00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,526
Let's see what?

256
00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,216
Let's see you strut it. Show
me what you got, you know.

257
00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,924
Your best catwalk.

258
00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,447
Don't be shy.

259
00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,807
Come on. You got this.
Uh... All right.

260
00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:09,646
I don't know.

261
00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,210
Drop Bush, not bombs!

262
00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,001
Drop Bush, not bombs!

263
00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,362
Excuse me. Would you mind
signing our petition, please?

264
00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:24,771
Yes, absolutely.

265
00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,769
Thank you.
Thank you so much. Sir?

266
00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:29,921
No, thank you.

267
00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,200
Excuse me, ma'am.
Would you like to sign?

268
00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,976
I actually just signed. Yeah.
Okay. Thank you very much.

269
00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,001
Thank you.

270
00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,528
Too much independent
spirit for you?

271
00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:44,841
Uh, no, I just don't really
like bashing my country.

272
00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,726
It's my country too, and right
now it has blood on its hands.

273
00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,124
Sorry, I just... I have friends
who are over there right now.

274
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,616
I'm not talking
about the troops.

275
00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,520
I'm talking about the moron
sending them to war.

276
00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,404
Moron? You mean
our Commander-in-Chief?

277
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,881
Yeah, whatever you want to call him.
He's still wrong.

278
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,736
How do you know he's wrong?
You're just lashing out.

279
00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,560
No, I'm not lashing out. I'm
questioning our government.

280
00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:09,816
That's what we do
in this country.

281
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,207
That is the principle
that we were founded on.

282
00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,444
Okay, but how about
questioning the liberal media?

283
00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,611
I mean, you're just buying
into what one side is saying.

284
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,051
Maybe I am,
'cause my side is right.

285
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,728
See, that's funny, 'cause my side's right.
Oh, really?

286
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,087
Yeah.
Uh...

287
00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,202
Why is it smart conservatives
always make me so mad?

288
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,601
Probably because you don't
like hearing the truth.

289
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,046
You are a very frustrating
individual, you know that?

290
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,962
How am I going to make you see?

291
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,281
I can see just fine, thank you.

292
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,160
That help at all?

293
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,046
Nope. No, that did
nothing for me.

294
00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:00,360
Tastes like liberal.

295
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,284
It's not my thing.

296
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,126
Is it constitutional
to bypass the Courts?

297
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,806
No. The Fourth Amendment
prevents searches

298
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,325
and seizures without a warrant.

299
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,927
That's absolutely right,
Rio. Which means

300
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,570
your Commander-in-Chief, the
President of the United States,

301
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,483
is breaking the law.

302
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,489
That is what you're saying,
isn't it, Rio?

303
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:35,521
Well, I guess it depends
on who you talk to.

304
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,443
And if you talk to journalists?

305
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,960
Who, more often than not,
don't have the full picture,

306
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,487
or neglect to report it,
you only get a partial truth.

307
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,925
Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act.

308
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,525
The FISA Court.

309
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,284
We do respect the Fourth
Amendment in this country,

310
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,976
and we issue warrants
based on suspicion.

311
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:04,370
But sometimes these warrants have
to be issued by secret courts,

312
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,091
so we don't alert
the suspects we're spying on.

313
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,363
And these court proceedings
are classified,

314
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,204
which means, surprise...

315
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,450
They don't appear in papers
such as The New York Times.

316
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,166
Did you see my test scores?

317
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,523
Yes. Top of my class.
Like you. What, here?

318
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,683
NSA. They liked me plenty.

319
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,049
They put me on all the best teams.
Soviet frontier. Desert Storm.

320
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,562
And then the big new challenge,

321
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:37,168
find the terrorist in the Internet
haystack. Hell of a haystack.

322
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,685
Hundreds of terabytes a minute.

323
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,684
I mean, it would take you 400
years to read the emails.

324
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,808
Then you have to analyze them.

325
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,841
Sometimes, the more you
look, the less you see.

326
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,816
- What'd you come up with?
- Something beautiful.

327
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,241
In house.
For $3 million.

328
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,405
A program that could differentiate
between foreign and domestic,

329
00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,121
encrypt every signal we weren't
targeting, so it would remain private.

330
00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:02,442
It was elegant, streamlined.

331
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,363
It was the best work I ever did.

332
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,081
Have a seat.

333
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:09,960
What was it called?

334
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:23,131
Ed, rising to
the top in our world

335
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,568
can sometimes be hard on a man.

336
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,009
I mean... You think
you're making strides,

337
00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:33,771
you think you're
taking the initiative.

338
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,490
And then, the next minute, they
grind your work out of existence.

339
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,042
They didn't use it?
Why not?

340
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:42,521
Well, they never tell you why.

341
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,646
Two years later, after 9/11,

342
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,046
a friend of mine tells me about

343
00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:50,930
this new contractor
program they're using.

344
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,446
Costs $4 billion to deploy.

345
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:58,481
Modeled after mine but with
no filters, no automation.

346
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,201
Ingested everything.
They were drowning in data.

347
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,930
It was a fucking disaster.

348
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,890
Okay, but there must have been
some bigger picture, right?

349
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,282
I mean, spending that kind of money?
They're not stupid.

350
00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:14,011
You would think intelligence
would count for something

351
00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:15,963
in the intelligence business.

352
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,448
Right. But you wanna
know what it really is?

353
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,727
What really sets the agenda?

354
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,123
Military industrial
happiness management.

355
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,042
You keep the coffers
open in Congress,

356
00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:33,283
you keep the money flowing
to the contractors.

357
00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:37,081
Efficiency, results?
They go out the window.

358
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,526
Not to mention...
All right.

359
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,126
Well, you're late for class.

360
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,643
Okay. Thank you.

361
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,801
Can I take another one?
Sure.

362
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,411
Did you ever say
anything to anybody?

363
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,610
Yeah. I went to legal.
We filed complaints.

364
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,526
Now here I am,
tucked away, teaching you.

365
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,766
Maybe that's more important,
in the long run.

366
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:15,687
You're getting better.

367
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,528
My favorite spot on campus.

368
00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:37,610
You hunt, Ed?

369
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,085
Uh...

370
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,491
Did some skeet shooting
with my dad a few times,

371
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,324
but, no, I never went hunting.

372
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:46,606
We'll go one day.

373
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,920
That'd be great.

374
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,964
Mr. O'Brian,
can I ask you a question?

375
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,804
How about just
calling me Corbin?

376
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,721
Okay.
Thank you, sir. Uh, Corbin.

377
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,208
I was talking with Hank
Forrester and I wanted to know,

378
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,171
are all of our SIGINT programs
specifically targeted?

379
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,720
Of course. What good would
they be if they weren't? Hmm?

380
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,571
Yeah, I don't know.

381
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,683
You have a girlfriend, Ed?

382
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,530
Uh, nothing serious.

383
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,045
What's her name?
Lindsay.

384
00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:24,167
Lindsay.

385
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,010
She going with you?

386
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,644
No, I wouldn't want
to put her in any danger.

387
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,801
Well, you won't have to.

388
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,288
We're not sending you
to the Middle East.

389
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:44,128
Sir, I'm your best student.
Doesn't that count for something?

390
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,409
In 20 years, Iraq will be a
hellhole nobody cares about.

391
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,528
Terrorism's
a short-term threat.

392
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,128
The real threats will come
from China, Russia, Iran,

393
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,050
and they'll come as
SQL injections and malware.

394
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,245
Without minds like yours, this country
will be torn apart in cyberspace.

395
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:05,485
I don't want to risk losing you

396
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,331
for some horseshit war
over sand and oil.

397
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,849
Sir, I'm surprised
to hear you say that.

398
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,288
You don't have to agree with your
politicians to be a patriot.

399
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,800
Sir, where are you sending me?
Take a moment.

400
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,851
Enjoy the view.

401
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,921
HEY-

402
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,846
This is Laura.

403
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,481
Hello.

404
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,050
Hello, nice to meet you.

405
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,009
Hello, I'm Ewen MacAskill from the
Guardian. It's nice to meet you.

406
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,286
Nice to meet you, too.

407
00:26:56,360 --> 00:26:59,887
Um, if you don't mind, uh,
I'd like to record some of...

408
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:02,327
Uh... Cell phones go
in the microwave.

409
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,801
Dare I ask why?

410
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,326
We'll get to that.
After you ask your questions.

411
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,481
Yeah, before...

412
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,696
Before we get on to the stories,
I need to know more about you.

413
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,123
Your career by Glenn's account
is very varied,

414
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,884
but the Guardian
needs evidence that...

415
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,009
Yeah. This is my diplomatic
passport for friendly countries,

416
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,969
my tourist passport
for everywhere else.

417
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,451
You can check the visa stamps.

418
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,570
This is my NSA badge with Booz
Allen, my CIA badge with Dell,

419
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,723
and this is my DIA
instructor's badge.

420
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,724
This is a photo of me
with Michael Hayden,

421
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,724
who's a former head
of the NSA and the CIA.

422
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,166
When can you publish?

423
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,643
Okay, um, do you mind if I sit down?
No, please.

424
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,209
Uh, Glenn says
you want to, uh...

425
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,249
You want to tell people
your identity.

426
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,176
How do you think your
government's going to react?

427
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,601
Well, they'll charge me
under the Espionage Act.

428
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,411
And they'll say I endangered
national security,

429
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,165
and they'll demonize me,
and my friends and family.

430
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,011
And they'll throw me in jail.

431
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,128
That's the
best-case scenario.

432
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,526
And the worst?

433
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,807
Well, if I don't
have any media cover,

434
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,486
then I'll be rendered by the CIA

435
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,927
and interrogated
outside of the law.

436
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,651
And they have a station
right up the street.

437
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,121
But how would they
know what you did?

438
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,761
Because I left a digital footprint in
my logs, so they'll figure it out.

439
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,808
I did not want a manhunt.

440
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,042
I know what they would
do to my colleagues.

441
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,164
Look, Mr. MacAskill, uh,

442
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,847
this is not about money
or anything for me.

443
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,160
There's no hidden agenda.

444
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,040
I just wanted to get this data to
established journalists like yourselves,

445
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,361
so that you can present it
to the world,

446
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,967
and the people can decide
either I'm wrong

447
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,885
or there's something going on inside
the government that's really wrong.

448
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,727
So...

449
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,011
This one is everything I have

450
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,004
on your British
intelligence agency, the GCHQ.

451
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,048
An encryption key will follow.

452
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,726
You're gonna want your technical
people at the Guardian

453
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,056
to look through that thoroughly.

454
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,003
There's a lot of stuff there.

455
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,525
Listen,
they're gonna investigate,

456
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,610
and they're gonna
figure out what I've done.

457
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,803
And then they're
gonna come for me.

458
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,450
And now that we've made contact,

459
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,009
they're gonna come
for all of you, too.

460
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,766
Uh... Um...

461
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,930
Do you mind if I go
look in the microwave?

462
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,249
Ewen. I'm on with Stuart.

463
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,367
Hi, Ewen.

464
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,328
Hi, Stuart. Look,
I've got one thing to say.

465
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,921
- The Guinness here is great.
- Wonderful...

466
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,128
Oh, absolutely
the genuine article.

467
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,326
Good.

468
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,846
But shockingly different
from what you'd expect.

469
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,645
So... Now we have the lawyers
to deal with. And no doubt the White House.

470
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,441
I got the go ahead.

471
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,806
That's great.
Oh, good.

472
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,696
Let's get started. We have
a lot to go through here,

473
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,051
and it's not easy reading.

474
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,929
We can start
by showing him XKeyscore.

475
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,376
Good idea. Ed, can you bring it
up again and walk us through it?

476
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,481
Yeah.

477
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,243
Do we all get under there now?

478
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,601
He's protecting his passwords.

479
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,887
Okay. So...

480
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,931
This was introduced

481
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,528
during my first deployment
at the CIA in Geneva.

482
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,726
"XKeyscore."

483
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,611
What does that do?

484
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,764
It's like a search interface.

485
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,084
What does it search for?

486
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,964
Anything you want.

487
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,009
What was your
assignment in Geneva?

488
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:09,281
Well, I was assigned with
diplomatic cover to the UN mission

489
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,931
to maintain the CIA's
computer security network.

490
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,205
I spent almost two years
around CIA field officers.

491
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,001
I don't see a time
stamp on any of this.

492
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,650
We have
a confirmation on the GSS.

493
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,686
I'm sorry, sir,
I don't understand.

494
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,331
Sherman says you hacked
the Human Resources site.

495
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,249
Yeah, it's my job to find flaws.

496
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,006
The security of the HR site
is not your problem.

497
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,650
You went outside the wheelhouse.

498
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,166
Okay, but just to clarify,
I did not hack it,

499
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,721
I showed that it
could be hacked.

500
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,126
You told me to find a patch.

501
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,361
You have that in writing?

502
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,649
Yes, I do. Remember, I sent
you the proof of concept.

503
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,056
Doesn't matter
what you did, Snowden.

504
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,880
Right or wrong, you need to let these
things be someone else's problem.

505
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,604
He's also put
a derog in your file.

506
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,091
Excuse me?
Let that be a lesson.

507
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,525
I don't want him
calling me again

508
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,329
about another Ed Snowden moment.

509
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,811
Okay?

510
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,896
Why don't you take it easy
the rest of the day?

511
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,763
Go work on the scrubbing pile.

512
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,364
That didn't look
like it went well.

513
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,731
Oh, hey, man. Uh, yeah. No, I just
got a derog for doing my job.

514
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,401
Politics, man. The
culture of fear wins again.

515
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,887
I can't get anything done here.
Yeah.

516
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,961
Hey, um, what about that idea
that we were talking about?

517
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,696
I'm working on it.
I'm waiting for a call back

518
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,210
from our friend at The Hill.

519
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,004
Who, Corbin? You called Corbin?
Hmm.

520
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,445
You think he can do something?

521
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,524
We'll see. Maybe some limited
field ops under my supervision.

522
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,176
Yes, that would be amazing.
I would love...

523
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,966
Easy, Ed. I've gotta see a cleric in Milan.
We'll talk after.

524
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,883
Okay. Thank you.

525
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,801
Damn, CIA does not like
to leave a trace, huh?

526
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:15,881
Can I help you?

527
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,689
You get curious
to check one out?

528
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,288
See what kind of crazy-ass
covert kill mission

529
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,536
you might be erasing
from history?

530
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,680
I'm sorry, who are you with?

531
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,446
No Such Agency.
I'm Gabriel Sol.

532
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,848
I'm the 50-pound brain from the
Council of Wizards and Warlocks.

533
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,641
Excuse me?

534
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,927
Oh. Giving you your Intel
for Bucharest, dude.

535
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,923
Unless there's
another Dave Churchyard.

536
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,651
No. That's me.
Right this way.

537
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,281
I'll be right outside.
Stay if you want.

538
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,888
Uh, I don't have
authorization to use NSA programs.

539
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,096
Well, if you're
the messenger to Bucharest,

540
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,531
you must have a PRIVAC clearance

541
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,250
to see the finished Intel, yes?

542
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,080
Yeah...

543
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,336
Yeah, so what
difference does it make

544
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,640
if you see how
it's put together?

545
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,810
Well, it's up to you, man.

546
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,328
Uh, you're giving me just names?

547
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,965
Uh, and a lot more than names.

548
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,449
What I will be providing you and the
fine gentlemen of the Secret Service

549
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:19,401
is a list of every threat made about
the President since February 3rd.

550
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,960
And a profile of
every threat-maker.

551
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,885
And these are, like,
existing targets?

552
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,163
99% are gonna come from the
bulk collection program, so...

553
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,129
Upstream, Muscular,
Tempora, PRISM.

554
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,001
PRISM?

555
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,843
You got a little
Snow White in you.

556
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,203
Which makes me feel like the witch
bringing you a poisoned apple.

557
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,601
Here. Exhibit A.

558
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,889
Oakland resident Justin Pinsky
posted on a message board,

559
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,725
"Romania has a storied history
of executing their leaders,

560
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,644
"couldn't they do us a solid
and take out Bush?"

561
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,525
Now this looks juicy.
This is from a G-chat.

562
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,842
"with the biggest python
you've ever seen." Hmm.

563
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,363
How is this all possible?

564
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,442
Um, keyword selectors.

565
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,682
"Attack," "take out Bush."

566
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,050
So think of it as
a Google search,

567
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,136
except instead of searching
only what people make public,

568
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,367
we're also looking at
everything they don't. So...

569
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,769
Emails, chats, SMS, whatever.

570
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,524
Yeah, but which people?

571
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,564
The whole kingdom, Snow White.

572
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,484
Which ambassador was he again?

573
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,131
De La Hoya, with
World Trade Organization.

574
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,326
Right.

575
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,161
So...

576
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,604
O'Brian came through for you.

577
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,401
He agrees your talents are being wasted.
You ready for a little action?

578
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,771
Really? What,
you mean right here?

579
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:05,163
Yeah. Now.

580
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:07,322
See the woman in
the pink number?

581
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,167
Credit Suisse. J.P. Morgan's on her arm.
Grandma's with Deutsche Bank.

582
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:14,083
Ten thousand bankers
in this town.

583
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,083
All you need to turn is one.

584
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,284
Socialize. Meet a few.

585
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,091
Preferably ones sitting on
a pile of dirty Saudi money

586
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,571
that's funding bin Laden.

587
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,923
Thank you very much. Church.
Church. Sure. Churchyard.

588
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,531
Mr. Debrinin asks
your business card, please.

589
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,281
An ambassador. Wow!

590
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,369
I wish I had your
schmoozing skills.

591
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,283
Uh, well,
that's why you have me.

592
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,131
Yeah. You don't know any
bankers, do you? Bankers?

593
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,440
Are you on some kind of
assignment or something?

594
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,249
Um, "Relationship cultivating."
And not well.

595
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,046
Let me help you.

596
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,246
No.
Yeah.

597
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,841
No, this is serious.
I know it's serious.

598
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,161
Trust me.

599
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,486
Any luck?

600
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,006
No, no bites.

601
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,841
Is there some kind
of trick to it?

602
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,801
It's all about finding
the pressure point.

603
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,968
Everything else is
just pushing on it.

604
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,170
Looks like
you're being summoned.

605
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,691
We have to pay extra...
Marwan? May I interrupt?

606
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,921
This is my boyfriend, Dave.

607
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,526
Hello, Dave. Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.

608
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,681
Marwan works at Monfort.

609
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,240
We were talking,
and after last week,

610
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,129
he may be able
to give you some tips.

611
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,771
Gentlemen, I'll see you inside.
Last week?

612
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,683
He's embarrassed. It was
a lot of money for us.

613
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,241
Day trading is a perilous sport.

614
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,727
You shouldn't be ashamed of it.
Yeah.

615
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,125
I'm gonna grab some food.
See you guys inside?

616
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,326
Sure.

617
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,480
You have a lovely girlfriend.
Thank you so much.

618
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,568
You know, I work in IT,
and so I just figured

619
00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:08,405
I could crack the market
like a weak network.

620
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,603
May I ask, how precipitous
were your losses?

621
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,491
Well, I told Lindsay
it was 20,000,

622
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,404
but between you and me,
it was closer to 45.

623
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,647
Tried to recoup,
but that was a mistake,

624
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:24,324
and now without
any real grounding,

625
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,016
I feel like I'm just
sliding out of control.

626
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,929
Oh, I have seen it many times.

627
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,809
And I'm always happy
to help a man

628
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,167
break a bad habit
before it gets going.

629
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,083
Oh, thank you.
I really appreciate that.

630
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,165
This is the cleanest
Pakistani I've ever seen.

631
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:41,402
We got no first-degree ties
to government or ISI,

632
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,925
no shady family.

633
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,736
I mean, second-degree contacts
are off the charts,

634
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,376
but that's... I mean, that's
everyone in the Middle East

635
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,686
with a six-figure income.

636
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,526
Well, it's not dirt that we need
necessarily, it's a pressure point.

637
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,769
Something intimate,
some kind of weakness.

638
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,123
Can we look through his family?
Mmm-hmm.

639
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,606
How about
his sister-in-law?

640
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:05,927
Yeah.

641
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,808
What is that, is that some
video that she sent somebody?

642
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,281
No, this is live.
Out of Paris.

643
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,766
What do you mean, live?

644
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,570
Optic Nerve. It's
camera and mic activation.

645
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:21,760
I wish we could take credit,
but the Brits wrote it.

646
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,165
Activation?

647
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:25,163
Yeah, her laptop's off.

648
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:26,890
Or was, she just
forgot to close it.

649
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,056
Of course, how would she know?

650
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,606
This shit is so sly, the webcam
light doesn't even turn on.

651
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,209
Hmm. I always wondered
what was under those.

652
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,206
Okay, look, let's stick
to family in Geneva.

653
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,726
All right?

654
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,802
Okay, Snow White.
Uh...

655
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,325
Fifteen-year-old daughter
at the International School.

656
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,724
Yeah. Uh, Facebook?
Is that possible?

657
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,484
Dude, Facebook's my bitch.

658
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,050
Seriously?

659
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,483
Like, she fights
with her parents, or...

660
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,882
Don't worry, don't worry. I know all
the hooks for this kind of fishing.

661
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,326
Uh, query name. So email, keyword,
whatever selector you want.

662
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,163
And justification
is where I write...

663
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,569
In other words, turning your
daddy into a CIA informant.

664
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,808
Wait, that's it? That's it, bro.

665
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,490
You don't have to get
a FISA court order?

666
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,446
Mmm-mmm. No, not here.
XKeyscore's under 702 authority,

667
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,363
which means no warrants.

668
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,127
Okay, but U.S. targets then, you'd
have to get the court order?

669
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,727
You mean FISA? Yeah, they're just
a big-ass rubber stamp, dude.

670
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,484
I mean, FISA judges
are all appointed by

671
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,166
the Chief Justice,
who's like, you know...

672
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,245
Darth Vader when it comes
to national security. Boom.

673
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,205
Here we go.

674
00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:02,690
Okay, okay. And the boy
at third base is...

675
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:10,046
Nadim. Okay. He's 18.

676
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,496
Salma says she wants
to marry him,

677
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,329
but is scared of
telling her parents.

678
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,725
What she doesn't know is that
his other name is Nicolas.

679
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,567
And he's currently banging
Geraldine and Julie.

680
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,681
And...

681
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,602
He and his Turkish mother
are here illegally.

682
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:39,967
That's it.

683
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,528
Ah, you like that?

684
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,125
I love these.

685
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,925
Man, what are we doing here?

686
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,807
You're making people very happy.

687
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,406
Mr. Marwan's bank
handles serious Saudi money,

688
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,767
and a whole bunch of
Russian billionaires.

689
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,084
What about any Al-Qaeda money?
Anything promising?

690
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,681
Ed, I'm up for a promotion soon.

691
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,643
I will not forget my friends.

692
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,771
Thank you.

693
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,416
This is all going kind of
fast though, right?

694
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,363
I mean, I just sent
some initial background.

695
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,602
There he is!
The man!

696
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,920
Hey, Marwan!

697
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,163
Dave. How wonderful
to see you.

698
00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:28,526
Good to see you, too.

699
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,441
Uh, I was counting, Marwan, you snuck
in an extra half hour back there.

700
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,366
I'm afraid she was merely
listening to an old man's woes.

701
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,441
Oh, I see.

702
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,363
So, how are you, Marwan?

703
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,047
I must tell you,
Dave, since we met,

704
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,009
my life has gone
somewhat Topsy-turvy.

705
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,163
Oh, no, I'm sorry to hear that.

706
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,244
But your colleague Charles here

707
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,527
has graciously offered his help.

708
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,921
So I owe him and you
a great deal.

709
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,729
Can I ask what happened?

710
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,926
My daughter had an...

711
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,970
Marwan's daughter
took too many sleeping pills.

712
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,644
She's all right.

713
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:13,644
It had something to do with her
boyfriend, who was recently deported.

714
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:15,643
We're trying to secure
a visa for him.

715
00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:19,202
And even so,
I'm afraid that Salma will...

716
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,601
I'm sorry. I won't trouble
you with such matters.

717
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,526
No, no, you... Hey. You
talk as much as you want.

718
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,285
All right?
Family comes first.

719
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,160
Whoa!
Oh!

720
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,246
There's my beauty.

721
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,164
I'm never like this before.

722
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:50,083
Oh, sure.
No, of course.

723
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,322
You sit down, huh?
Sit tight.

724
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,884
You sit tight.

725
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,485
What the fuck's going on?

726
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,528
I have been acting
swiftly and effectively

727
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,649
on the very good signals
intelligence you've provided.

728
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,167
And if his daughter had died?

729
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,004
We could have used that too.

730
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,162
Are you serious? What, in
the name of a promotion?

731
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:18,687
Marwan can't be away
from his family right now.

732
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,007
So in the morning, when
he's facing a week in jail,

733
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,163
we're going to offer him a deal
and he won't turn it down.

734
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:25,401
Wait, jail? For what?

735
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,561
Drunk driving.

736
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,007
Now, I want you
to call the police.

737
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,376
Tell 'em you saw
a Mercedes headed north...

738
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:32,640
No, he's not driving right now.

739
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:34,529
Look at him, he'll kill himself.

740
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,443
Okay. I'll call 'em.
Hey!

741
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,081
He's not driving.

742
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,920
Remind me, are you authorized on
any of the NSA programs you used?

743
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,400
So we're both doing a little
fucked up shit here, huh?

744
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:55,087
Watch yourself, Ed. I will
tell him who you are.

745
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,365
You reveal the identity
of an undercover officer,

746
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,125
you're going to jail
for a lot longer than Marwan.

747
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:09,441
Hey!

748
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,286
HEY-

749
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,171
Sorry I'm so late.

750
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,291
How was work?

751
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,091
It was, uh...

752
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,161
It was all right. Yeah.

753
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,803
I have to
wake up in, like, three hours.

754
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,325
My flight's at 7:00.

755
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,648
Well, we'd better
be quick, then.

756
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,848
I will provide our intelligence
and law enforcement agencies

757
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,730
with the tools they need to track
and take out the terrorists

758
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,810
without undermining our
constitution and our freedom.

759
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:47,484
That means no
more illegal wiretapping

760
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:48,800
of American citizens.

761
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,168
No more ignoring the law
when it is inconvenient.

762
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:53,651
That is not who we are.

763
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,320
Hey, hon.
Hey.

764
00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:58,530
What happened
to the London trip?

765
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,483
Uh...

766
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,405
Turns out I'm not going.

767
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,521
Oh.

768
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,043
What's going on?
Who's winning?

769
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,202
And Michelle Obama
voted this morning in Chicago.

770
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,725
- I voted.
- In Arizona...

771
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,046
Still early.

772
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,336
John and Cindy McCain voted,
and then they landed in Colorado

773
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,169
to defend a traditionally
Republican state

774
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:18,685
that has turned
into a battleground.

775
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:19,761
Hey. Let's see.

776
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,409
Obama ahead 67% to 32%...

777
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,609
Come on, big ears.
Check out Florida.

778
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,888
Holy shit, he's gonna win it!

779
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,362
What, Florida?
Yeah!

780
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,442
That's big. Yeah.
It's huge!

781
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,522
You can act all nonchalant, but I know
you were starting to root for him.

782
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,323
I've been watching
your inner liberal grow.

783
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,600
For which I will take a modest
percentage of the credit.

784
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,688
And you deserve it.

785
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:55,287
What is this?

786
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,600
In Missouri.

787
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,366
56% for McCain, 43% for Obama.

788
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,962
Oh, yeah, that. Just... Leave that there.
That's, uh...

789
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,051
Russian hackers.
The Agency says

790
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,691
they can activate
webcams now. So...

791
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:10,761
That's creepy.

792
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,081
Yes. It's really
bothering me.

793
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,800
Whatever. It's not a big deal.
You shouldn't let it bother you.

794
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,569
It's not a big deal? No.

795
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,007
What, that someone could
be watching you right now?

796
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,285
No, I'm not hiding anything.

797
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,007
That's such
a bullshit line. What is?

798
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,521
I have nothing to hide. I don't.

799
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,806
Everyone does.

800
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,881
Okay, well then,
what do I have to hide?

801
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,722
Forget it. No,
what do I have to hide?

802
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,643
No, never...
Let's just drop it.

803
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:44,042
Well, apparently you think that I'm
hiding something, so...

804
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,566
Okay, the other day,
your computer was open,

805
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,450
and I happened to notice you
were on the site where we met,

806
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:50,816
and you were looking
at other guys.

807
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,002
You just were looking
at my computer?

808
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,216
I wouldn't have
even brought this up.

809
00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:57,242
You asked me,
"What do I have to hide?"

810
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,322
That's something
you're not telling me.

811
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,762
Well, it's not...
I don't do anything,

812
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,087
I don't meet any
of those people.

813
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,810
You're gone for weeks at a time.

814
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,366
So it's like I'm peering
into other peoples' lives

815
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,482
because my own is
just temporarily on hold.

816
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:20,051
That sounds like an excuse.

817
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,366
It's the truth.

818
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,367
I should have told you.
And I didn't.

819
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,081
I'm really sorry.
But it's not a big deal.

820
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:51,921
HEY-

821
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,641
Look at me.
I don't want anyone else.

822
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,164
I don't want any other life.

823
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:10,807
Okay?

824
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:26,965
Listen, uh...

825
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,522
I didn't go to London today
'cause I resigned.

826
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:35,761
What?

827
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,003
It was personal differences,

828
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,162
and it was a matter
of principle.

829
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,884
Can you tell me anything else?

830
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:47,931
Do you get reposted, or...

831
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,651
No, no, I resigned from the CIA.

832
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,162
So what does
that mean? What do we do?

833
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,682
I don't know. I'll figure
it out, but listen, I...

834
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:03,608
This is a good thing.
Trust me.

835
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:09,486
I do.

836
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,850
Hmm?
Hey.

837
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,441
He's gonna win.

838
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,610
52% for Obama, 48% for McCain.

839
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:27,886
Yeah, he'd better.

840
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,085
CNN can now project that
Barack Obama, 47 years old,

841
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,891
will become the President of the
United States-

842
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,962
Every agency and department
should know that this administration

843
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,326
stands on the side

844
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,528
not of those who seek
to withhold information,

845
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,443
but those who seek
to make it known.

846
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,963
Janine is the website editor

847
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,010
of a small stateside office
of a British newspaper,

848
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,606
up against the most powerful
government in the world.

849
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:56,966
She won't be bullied.

850
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,408
We need to establish
that we're not compromising

851
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,323
national security by publishing.

852
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:02,970
We need to have alternatives.

853
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,371
Listen, Ed,

854
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,841
the real issue here is that
they, the White House,

855
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,208
are aware that Janine has a leaked
top secret FISA court order.

856
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:11,486
Anything could happen.

857
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:12,971
They could subpoena the Guardian

858
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,176
and, for that matter, they could

859
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,565
break through
that door any minute,

860
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,608
ending all of this.

861
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,887
We are running out of time.

862
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,043
We seriously have to think about
doing this on our own website.

863
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,446
We have no choice.

864
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,329
Wait, you can't just
start dumping articles

865
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,249
on the Internet, Glenn!
Be serious.

866
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,005
Look at WikiLeaks. It
destroyed their credibility.

867
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,650
Look, Ed, you said it yourself,

868
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:36,167
if this isn't done properly, the
world isn't gonna take notice.

869
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:39,608
You need experienced
journalists to lead the public

870
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,160
through some very,
very complicated stories.

871
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:43,765
We are experienced journalists.

872
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:45,685
My feeling...

873
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,169
Has anyone called here before? Not once.
Not in three weeks.

874
00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:57,844
Well, I'll...
Shall I answer it?

875
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,610
I'll tell 'em it's
the wrong number.

876
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:02,441
Yes?

877
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,365
No, I don't.

878
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,450
Okay. Thank you.

879
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,203
Asking if I want
turndown service.

880
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,760
She said the "Do not disturb"
sign was off the door.

881
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,041
So?

882
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:39,323
Do we wait?
Or go on our own?

883
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,280
Look, I said from the beginning

884
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,324
that how you publish
is your business,

885
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,164
and I trust you.

886
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:49,971
The only thing I ask is you study
the data, you be responsible,

887
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,731
no names, no specifics,
anything ongoing

888
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,962
that's critical,
you don't release.

889
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,441
You just stick to the issue
of mass surveillance

890
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:58,567
and let the people decide.

891
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,723
You have our word on that, but
that's not the question. We have to ask...

892
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,490
Look, Ed, Ed,

893
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,961
right now the White House is
arranging a conference call

894
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,122
between Janine and
the intelligence services.

895
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,283
Now that's gonna happen
in a few hours.

896
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,251
Let's at least wait for that,
see what they say to her.

897
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,888
I'd say we pause a moment.

898
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:24,571
Yeah, I think
we should reassemble

899
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,176
in this room after
the call takes place,

900
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,841
so that's around midnight.
Be noon in New York.

901
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,125
All right.

902
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,521
I'll take another pass at the
PRISM story in the meantime.

903
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,491
Okay. We'll be in our hotel
room if you need us, okay?

904
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:39,561
Thanks, Ewen.

905
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:40,801
Yeah.
Okay.

906
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,210
Uh, do you mind maybe
we take a break from that?

907
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,090
For a second?

908
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,681
Oh, yeah. Sure, sorry.

909
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,208
You wanna take a look?
Might make you feel better.

910
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,051
On. It's not
recording, just on standby.

911
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,485
Okay.

912
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,486
When did this start for you?
Not wanting your photo taken?

913
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,161
Uh, probably in Japan.

914
00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:15,720
I remember every time
a camera got pointed at me,

915
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,167
it was like...
Couldn't breathe.

916
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,605
Why was that?

917
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,449
I probably, uh, spent too much time
looking at other people through cameras.

918
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,881
Japan was your
first NSA job, right?

919
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,921
Yeah, well, as a contractor with Dell.
Had a lot of access.

920
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,402
Why'd you go back after Geneva?

921
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,161
'Cause the money, and 'cause
I wanted to live in Japan.

922
00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:45,004
And because of Obama, actually.

923
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,731
You know, I thought things were
gonna get better with him.

924
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,491
I was wrong.

925
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,201
What was it like there?

926
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,248
Well,
in the first part of my day,

927
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,530
I was building this round-the-clock
backup system called Epic Shelter.

928
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,126
So, if there was
some catastrophe,

929
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,090
say, uh, terrorists
burned down every embassy

930
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,731
and NSA post in the Middle East.

931
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:19,488
This program would ensure we
wouldn't lose any of that data.

932
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,566
But then, I would have to put it
aside when visitors would show up.

933
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:24,641
Hi, Ed.

934
00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:29,521
NSA wanted to impress the
Japanese, show them our reach.

935
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,245
They loved the live drone feeds.

936
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,482
This is over Pakistan.

937
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:37,731
Right now.

938
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,007
They were not as thrilled to
learn that we wanted them to help us

939
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,208
spy on the Japanese population.

940
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,085
They said it was
against their laws.

941
00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:53,402
Course we tapped
the entire country anyway.

942
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,328
And we didn't stop there,

943
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,562
'cause once we owned
their communications systems,

944
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,564
we started going after
their physical infrastructure.

945
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,929
We'd slip these little sleeper
programs into power grids,

946
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,968
dams, hospitals,

947
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,122
and the idea was if the day came

948
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,601
when Japan was
no longer an ally,

949
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,011
it'd be lights out.

950
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,486
And it wasn't just the Japanese.

951
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,087
We were planting malware
in Mexico, Germany,

952
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,844
Brazil, Austria.

953
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,927
I mean, China I can understand,
or Russia, or Iran,

954
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,685
or Venezuela, okay.
But Austria?

955
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,489
You're also being ordered
to follow most world leaders

956
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,164
and heads of industry.

957
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,562
You know, you're tracking
trade deals, sex scandals,

958
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,565
diplomatic cables
to give the U.S.

959
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,120
an advantage in
negotiations at the G8,

960
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,807
or leverage over
Brazilian oil companies,

961
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,044
or helping to oust some third-world
leader who's not playing ball.

962
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,641
And ultimately,
the truth sinks in

963
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,564
that no matter what justification
you're selling yourself,

964
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,927
this is not about terrorism.

965
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,289
Terrorism is the excuse.

966
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:14,962
This is about economic
and social control.

967
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,086
And the only thing
you're really protecting

968
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,561
is the supremacy
of your government.

969
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,003
Were you thinking about
going to journalists then?

970
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,050
No. No, that wouldn't have
occurred to me back then.

971
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,690
I just thought, you know,
the system will self-correct,

972
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,287
and the President will keep his
promise that got him elected...

973
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:52,206
That's actually when I first started
reading about you and your films.

974
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:53,361
It was in Glenn's blog.

975
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,523
You were being detained
in airports for hours.

976
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:00,446
Thirty-seven times. For investigating
your own country's wars.

977
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:05,123
That's why I'm going back to Berlin
to edit. You can trust me with this.

978
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,802
I do. Yeah.

979
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,726
I haven't trusted
anyone in years.

980
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:21,569
It was a welcome change when they
put me on terrorism watch duty.

981
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,926
Every day, I'd go in and I'd get
starting points for SIGINT,

982
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,646
which is signals intelligence.

983
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,926
A lot of them were American,
which felt strange,

984
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,843
but you just keep
reminding yourself,

985
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,925
I could stop a dirty bomb attack
and save thousands of lives.

986
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,962
The thing is, you're not just
following your bad guy targets.

987
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,611
You're also following
their metadata,

988
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:50,685
which is basically all the phone
numbers that they're in touch with.

989
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,321
Let's say your target
is a shady Iranian banker

990
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,926
operating out of Beirut, okay.

991
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,446
So you're watching his stuff,
but you're also watching

992
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,966
all the people that he talks to.

993
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,646
Including, you know, his cousin,

994
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,291
who's just some dentist
living in Buffalo.

995
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,170
And then you have to watch
all of that guy's contacts.

996
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,608
And by the time you go a third hop
out from the original target,

997
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:20,210
you're watching this bartender
chat with her mother about Botox.

998
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:25,286
'Cause three hops from anyone
with, say, 40 contacts,

999
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,011
you're looking at a list
of 2.5 million people.

1000
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,688
And there's that moment when

1001
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,367
you're sitting there and
the scale of it hits you.

1002
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:41,128
The NSA is really tracking
every cell phone in the world.

1003
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,049
No matter who you are,

1004
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,811
every day of your life,
you're sitting in a database

1005
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,486
just ready to be looked at.

1006
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:04,683
And not just terrorists, or
countries, or corporations, but you.

1007
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,288
Was Lindsay with you in Japan?

1008
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,687
Japan was difficult for us.

1009
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,648
I guess you couldn't
talk about your work.

1010
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,330
No.

1011
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,561
There was this one night,
uh, towards the end,

1012
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,170
when, uh, we were supposed to go
climb Mount Fuji the next day...

1013
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:45,481
Wow!

1014
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,880
Are you gonna
post that on Twitter?

1015
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:50,961
No.

1016
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,726
They're just for me.
What do you think?

1017
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,243
You should delete those.

1018
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,091
That's not quite the artistic
critique I was going for.

1019
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,044
I'm sorry. You just...
You should...

1020
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,976
You can't have stuff like
that on your hard drive.

1021
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,047
Yes, I can.

1022
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:10,091
Can you just please... I'm
asking you, can you delete them?

1023
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:12,171
Russian hackers again?

1024
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:13,287
No...

1025
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,171
Is it us?

1026
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,086
It's classified.

1027
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:23,880
Am I a target?

1028
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,200
Of course not.

1029
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,767
Clearly someone is looking
at my nude portraits.

1030
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,729
Okay. I shouldn't
have brought it up.

1031
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,121
All right? It's issues
of national security.

1032
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,362
Well, I am flattered
that my boobs

1033
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,323
are considered an issue
of national security,

1034
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,176
but you're gonna have to do
a lot better than that.

1035
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,680
I'd rather not talk about stuff
that could land us in jail.

1036
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,524
So that's what
the Band-Aids are about, then?

1037
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,443
And your camera phobia?

1038
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:48,726
Because of work?

1039
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,125
Are they watching us?

1040
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,490
Who are they watching?
No one, okay?

1041
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,210
Let's just stop
talking about it.

1042
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,961
Let's go to bed,
and wake up in the morning,

1043
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,647
and go climb this fucking mountain.
All right?

1044
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,176
Of course we're not
gonna talk about it.

1045
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:07,486
What is that supposed to mean?

1046
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,040
It means that we don't talk
about anything anymore.

1047
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,366
You work 12-hour days,
you come home depressed,

1048
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,807
you play fucking video games,
and then you fall asleep.

1049
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:17,564
Yeah, I'm tired
'cause I have a job.

1050
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,051
That's what pays
for this apartment

1051
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:20,849
in the most expensive city
in the world.

1052
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,163
Which you asked me to come to knowing
that I did not have a work visa.

1053
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:25,480
Okay, what if you had one?

1054
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:29,087
Would you really give up your
beautiful life of eating and sleeping

1055
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,760
and going out all the time? You
think you'd really want a career?

1056
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,168
A career like yours? Where I'm
miserable all the time? No.

1057
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,402
That's called responsibility.

1058
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,162
Fuck this.

1059
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,083
You know what?
You have no fucking idea

1060
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,845
what it's like to be accountable
for other people's lives,

1061
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,002
because you live
in a fairy tale land

1062
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,003
where just there
are no consequences,

1063
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,684
and no one ever gets hurt.

1064
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:58,083
No. No,
you, you don't get hurt.

1065
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:00,931
I get fucking crushed.

1066
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,849
Fucking bullshit!
I've done nothing to you!

1067
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,888
That's exactly right.
You have done nothing!

1068
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,002
You don't hang out with me,
you don't laugh with me,

1069
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,924
you don't even
fucking touch me anymore.

1070
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:14,400
I'm sorry.
Stop!

1071
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,644
No!

1072
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,127
We, uh, never made it to Mount Fuji.

1073
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,281
And Lindsay left pretty
soon after that, and...

1074
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,530
I was really lonely there.

1075
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,480
But after three months, I left too.
I went back to Maryland.

1076
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,244
And I promised her I'd change.

1077
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,083
And, uh, we moved
back in together.

1078
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,491
Make sure your knees stay bent,

1079
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,524
and then you can fully extend
once you feel stable. Ready?

1080
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,648
One, two, three.

1081
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:25,321
All the way up.

1082
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:26,976
Now you wanna clench
between your knees.

1083
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,446
It'll burn,
but it's a good burn.

1084
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:30,520
Perfect.

1085
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,005
Twirl around.

1086
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,841
Perfect! Oh, my
God, I'm so proud of you!

1087
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:37,763
When you're really happy,

1088
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:41,208
there's a large part of you
that just wants to stay happy.

1089
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,523
And you start to think, what could
be more important than this?

1090
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,205
What!
Is it okay?

1091
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,048
Oh, my God.
It's so beautiful.

1092
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:59,645
You know, lots of people
cruise happily through life.

1093
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:02,730
Why can't I?

1094
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,290
And I went back
to work at the CIA.

1095
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,044
With backdoors...

1096
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,885
My official title was
Solutions Consultant.

1097
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,049
Basically I was hawking
overpriced hardware for a living.

1098
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:23,804
But I thought you had resigned?

1099
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,360
Yeah, well, it was all
contract work after Geneva.

1100
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,681
You know,
it's Booz Allen Hamilton,

1101
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,888
or Dell, in partnership

1102
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,009
With CIA or NSA, DIA.

1103
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,645
That's the intelligence
community's revolving door.

1104
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,640
How was it?
Being back in the States?

1105
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,681
It was, uh, it was
really good to be home.

1106
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:53,130
But Maryland was where things
started to turn for me.

1107
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:58,568
Every time I felt like I was finally
letting go of all the anxiety

1108
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,246
and all the questions that
used to keep me up at night,

1109
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:05,245
I'd learn something else,
and I just couldn't ignore it.

1110
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,240
Like, there were these three
high-level officials at the NSA,

1111
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,051
Bill Binney, Ed Loomis,
and Kirk Wiebe.

1112
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:16,330
They'd been filing complaints about
abuse and overreach for years.

1113
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,200
That's all they did,
they just filed complaints,

1114
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,443
and the FBI raided their homes.

1115
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,085
Then there was Thomas Drake.

1116
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,128
Like the other three guys,
Drake was trying

1117
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,487
to change things
from the inside.

1118
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,961
But when nothing worked,
he did go to the press.

1119
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,965
So they hit him with the Espionage
Act, and we were shocked.

1120
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:37,963
The whole Intel community.

1121
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:39,371
Why do you
think you were charged?

1122
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:40,965
To send a chilling message.

1123
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:42,361
To whom?

1124
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,011
To other whistleblowers,
to others in the government,

1125
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,202
not to speak out.

1126
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,330
Do not tell truth to power.
We'll hammer you.

1127
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,571
There's a new
program being developed

1128
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,007
at the NSA's op center on Oahu.

1129
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,561
You'd be going up against
Chinese cyber divisions.

1130
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,001
You interested?

1131
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,928
Won't be the vast sums of
money you're making now,

1132
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,480
but you'd be performing a critical
service for your country.

1133
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:14,891
I know that's important to you.

1134
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,281
You mean service like in Geneva?

1135
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,204
Matt was a mistake. Shouldn't
have pushed you into that.

1136
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:21,360
You didn't push me into it.

1137
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,528
I asked for exposure to field
ops, you gave it to me.

1138
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,329
I won't hold that against you.

1139
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,840
Is there something
you do hold against me?

1140
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:35,240
You didn't tell me
we were running

1141
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,521
a dragnet on
the whole world, Corbin.

1142
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:02,400
Great shooting, Ed.

1143
01:09:02,480 --> 01:09:03,811
Thank you.

1144
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:05,850
That's terrific.

1145
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,721
It's the one thing
in the Army I was good at.

1146
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,449
You ever think, Ed,

1147
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:21,367
since the Second World War, it's
been 60 years and still no WW III.

1148
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:23,406
Why?

1149
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:28,325
Because we've used our power
generally for the good of the world.

1150
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,930
For prosperity, order.

1151
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:33,889
How can we defend
ourselves against

1152
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,169
nuclear war, terror attacks,
cyber-attacks

1153
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,641
without a centralized
Intel factory

1154
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,609
working around the world
night and day?

1155
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,244
So we should catalogue
billions of people's lives?

1156
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:48,688
Most people already catalogue
their lives for public consumption.

1157
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,923
Well, they catalogue part cf their
lives, and they do it by choice.

1158
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,496
We're not giving them the choice.
We're just taking everything.

1159
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:58,286
Most Americans don't want
freedom, they want security.

1160
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:00,690
It's a simple bargain. If...

1161
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,768
Good girl! Good girl!

1162
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,364
If you want to play
with all the new toys

1163
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:08,410
and be safe, you pay
the price of admission.

1164
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,651
Yeah, except people,

1165
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:14,536
they don't even know
they've made that bargain.

1166
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,801
Where's the modern
battlefield, soldier?

1167
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:19,641
Everywhere.

1168
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,361
What's the first rule of battle?

1169
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,124
Never reveal your position.

1170
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:29,881
And if one unauthorized person knew?
If Congress knew?

1171
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,724
So would the enemy.

1172
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,850
That, Mr. Snowden,
is the state of the world.

1173
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,601
Secrecy is security,
and security is victory.

1174
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:48,890
Thank you, sir.

1175
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:51,720
Someone I want you to meet.

1176
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,768
Beautiful day for it, wasn't it?
Perfect weather.

1177
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,320
Mr. Lowell. Jim.

1178
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,768
How are you?
Dorian.

1179
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:00,205
Alan.
Nice to see you.

1180
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:01,406
Welcome to the U.S.

1181
01:11:01,480 --> 01:11:03,050
How'd you make
out today, Corbin?

1182
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,970
Uh, very mediocre.
Nothing like Ed here.

1183
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,404
Apparently the Army's training
people to shoot straight.

1184
01:11:09,480 --> 01:11:11,289
So this is Ed Snowden.

1185
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:12,566
Yes, sir.
Pleasure to meet you.

1186
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,081
The brains behind Epic Shelter.
That's right.

1187
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:16,496
That's brilliant work.
Thank you, sir.

1188
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,016
Yeah, I had a few questions
I wanted to ask you.

1189
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,884
Uh, Jim. Will you
excuse me, gentlemen?

1190
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:22,731
Excuse me, Alan.
Nice to meet you.

1191
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:28,003
Yeah, it's proving very useful
to our UAV program.

1192
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,289
Yes, I heard. With foreign
site Intel transfer.

1193
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:32,964
Transfers happen
on collection now.

1194
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,362
They go straight to the Pentagon,
Mossad if they need it.

1195
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,205
Actionable immediately.
No one sees it.

1196
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:40,646
It's improved the response time

1197
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,609
of our drone pilots
by a factor of ten.

1198
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,647
Tell me, Ed. You worked signals
intelligence in Japan too, yes?

1199
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:47,801
Yes, sir.

1200
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,644
How'd you like it?

1201
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:53,247
It was a very empowering job, sir.

1202
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:57,524
With this new job in Hawaii,
you'd have even more access.

1203
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,730
I asked Corbin to start the conversation.
But the offer is mine.

1204
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,364
Take your time.

1205
01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:06,616
It's going to take a few months

1206
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,961
to get this program on its feet.

1207
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,691
If you'll excuse me,
gentlemen, I see dinner.

1208
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:14,609
Beer, sir?
Thank you.

1209
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,089
Sir, for you?
Uh, no, thank you.

1210
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,808
Epic Shelter was meant
as a backup program.

1211
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,527
Lowell is creating
this position for you, Ed.

1212
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,206
You'd be the first contractor
outside Fort Meade

1213
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:33,930
working counter-cyber.

1214
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,202
It's your ticket to the top.

1215
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:49,964
Do you believe the United States

1216
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,008
is the greatest country
in the world?

1217
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:53,730
Yes.

1218
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:56,241
Have you ever used

1219
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,005
any programs
you were unauthorized for?

1220
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:06,007
No.

1221
01:13:18,440 --> 01:13:21,205
We're not usually
supposed to submit our own work,

1222
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:24,568
but my editor said
she'd make an exception.

1223
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:25,687
Pretty neat, huh?

1224
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,162
I get to submit an entry.

1225
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,966
You ignoring me
on purpose, or what?

1226
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,566
No. Sorry.
Shit. Uh...

1227
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,367
I was just thinking.

1228
01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:45,686
About what?

1229
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,361
I wanted to talk to you
about it at dinner,

1230
01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:55,681
but let's just...
Will you come sit down?

1231
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,242
Is everything okay?

1232
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:00,526
Yeah.

1233
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:02,800
Um...

1234
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:07,531
The, uh, Deputy Director
of the NSA...

1235
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,090
Hmm?

1236
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,402
He offered me a new position.

1237
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,530
And, uh, that was a while back,
and now they need an answer.

1238
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,882
Well, is it something
you want to do?

1239
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,089
I'd be good at it.

1240
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,520
Can you tell me anything about it?

1241
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,564
You know I can't.

1242
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,484
I know. Mission first.

1243
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,246
Well, are there social perks?
White House galas, maybe?

1244
01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:39,445
The position is in Hawaii.

1245
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,290
We worked really hard
to get where we're at.

1246
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,963
And you're willing to
just rip it all up again?

1247
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:56,929
Like we finally have
a house that we love,

1248
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,843
and a job that I like,
and real friends,

1249
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:00,922
and we're close to our families.
I... I understand.

1250
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,890
And if you want to stay,
then we're staying.

1251
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:05,526
That's it.

1252
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,416
Don't just say that
'cause I wanna hear it.

1253
01:15:08,440 --> 01:15:09,441
I'm not.

1254
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,087
I let you go once,
I'm not gonna do it again.

1255
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:25,803
Shit. I'm sorry.
The pasta.

1256
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:27,490
It's gonna... One sec.

1257
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,376
You know, I think I actually
came pretty close

1258
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,448
to getting it right this time.

1259
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:44,285
I'll get some candles.

1260
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,164
Oh, my God! Ed! Ed! Ed!

1261
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:44,725
I know Tegretol.

1262
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:47,936
I know it slows you down,
'cause I've seen it in my mom.

1263
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,691
She's taken all kinds
of medications her whole life.

1264
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,726
Well, they work in 70% of cases.

1265
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,443
Ed, epilepsy is
a serious condition.

1266
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,444
If you have a seizure
driving yourself,

1267
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,648
or with someone else in the car,

1268
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:08,122
or you're in a place
where you could fall,

1269
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,726
this is not something
to be lightly regarded.

1270
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,565
It's essential you commit
yourself to this medication.

1271
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:17,326
Okay?

1272
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:20,361
Yeah.

1273
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,125
After you.
Oh, thank you.

1274
01:17:31,480 --> 01:17:34,324
I've been thinking about
what the doctor said.

1275
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:35,925
About less stress.

1276
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,568
A warmer climate could help.

1277
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,925
If Hawaii is something
that we decide

1278
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,209
would be better
for you, I'll go.

1279
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,366
Janine, how'd the White
House conversation go?

1280
01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:12,441
I made it quite clear

1281
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,444
that we were in possession of
an authentic FISA court order.

1282
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,000
They wanted to see it.
We refused.

1283
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,447
Now I just pray that
it's actually authentic.

1284
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:23,689
Are you actually
questioning that?

1285
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,610
Glenn, no one has ever seen
a FISA court order.

1286
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,370
There's no precedent here.

1287
01:18:28,440 --> 01:18:31,410
Our source risked his life
for that document. It's real.

1288
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,687
Tell us, did the White House
make any specific claims

1289
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:39,128
about national security that would
prevent you from publishing?

1290
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:45,011
No. I asked them repeatedly, and
they had no substantive answer.

1291
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:46,456
Then, there you go!
What more do you want?

1292
01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:48,244
You can go out and
know that you're safe.

1293
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:52,325
Glenn, I'd like to talk to
Alan before we go any further.

1294
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:53,447
When does he land?

1295
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:54,726
In six hours.

1296
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,804
No. Absolutely not! We're
sitting ducks here, Janine.

1297
01:18:58,320 --> 01:18:59,651
It's 1:00 p.m.
in New York.

1298
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,456
If you don't get this out
in the next four hours,

1299
01:19:01,480 --> 01:19:03,296
you'll miss the evening news
on the East Coast.

1300
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,800
But we can post later tonight.

1301
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:08,320
I'm sorry, Glenn.

1302
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,641
But Alan's our editor-in-chief,
and I really think that...

1303
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,490
Bullshit! The government knows
that we have these documents now.

1304
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,922
The CIA could barge through this door
any minute, and you want more time!

1305
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,850
Act like a fucking journalist
and stop stringing us along!

1306
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,083
I just stood my ground
with the goddamn White House!

1307
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:25,446
I've risked my career!

1308
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,480
How dare you question
my commitment to this story!

1309
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:28,936
Okay, let's just
keep our voices down...

1310
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:30,176
No, you're right.
I am questioning it.

1311
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,521
This is absolutely
inappropriate.

1312
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,368
We are publishing ourselves.
You're out.

1313
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:47,121
All right, Glenn.

1314
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,521
We'll have it ready
by 4:00 p.m.

1315
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,044
I have to go over the
story once more-Why?

1316
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,931
Because it still
needs editing, damn you.

1317
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,924
All this fucking intelligence
jargon is hurting our brains.

1318
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,686
This PRISM story is
still incomprehensible.

1319
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,250
PRISM is the second story,
Janine.

1320
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,169
Verizon is the first story.

1321
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,806
Have it ready to post by 4:00
p.m., 5:00 at the latest.

1322
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,120
Ugh...

1323
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:11,486
No games, or we're gone.

1324
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,325
So, my new job
was counter-spying

1325
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:44,247
on the Chinese at the NSA Regional
Cryptological Center on Oahu.

1326
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,607
You mind placing your
bag down there, sir?

1327
01:20:50,440 --> 01:20:53,444
No personal laptops, no USB
sticks, no cell phones,

1328
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:54,965
no electronic devices
of any kind?

1329
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:56,121
No, sir.

1330
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:05,927
Thank you.

1331
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:11,246
Thank you.

1332
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,564
Snow White!
Is that you?

1333
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:21,040
Gabriel?

1334
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,487
Dude, what the hell are you doing here?
Wow!

1335
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:24,607
That's amazing.

1336
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:25,727
Oh, man.

1337
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:27,121
What, do you work here?

1338
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:31,649
Yeah, yeah. Uh, three years,
two months, and five days.

1339
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:34,883
But who's counting, right? Yeah.

1340
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,248
It's like who knew a secret
underground World War II-era base

1341
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,456
would become munchie heaven
for a thousand geeks, right?

1342
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:42,040
So there's good pizza?
Good pizza, yeah.

1343
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:43,081
That's important.

1344
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:44,730
Elevator's slow as shit, though.

1345
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:45,800
Jesus.

1346
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,080
It's something else, huh?

1347
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:52,282
Yeah. So, uh, what deck
are you working on?

1348
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,011
You NTOC or ROC?

1349
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,923
Between you and me? NTOC.

1350
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:02,525
Cool. You get to
hack the hackers.

1351
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:03,840
You're coming up in the world.

1352
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,246
Fresh brains for you, Trevor.

1353
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,527
Trevor James, Interactive
Ops Division Chief.

1354
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:19,601
Ed Snowden.

1355
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,206
I've been briefed.
Next door is NTOC.

1356
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,202
Defense. That's where
you'll be working.

1357
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,242
Over here we have ROC,
our offense.

1358
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:32,442
Now I move between the two. We
run a tight ship here, Snowden.

1359
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:33,885
Yes, sir.

1360
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:35,200
You'll be working with Haynes.

1361
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:36,725
Hey. Patrick Haynes.

1362
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,176
Hey. Nice to meet you.
Good to have you.

1363
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:39,440
You watch out for him.

1364
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,336
That's the smartest guy
in the building right here.

1365
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:42,361
Come on.

1366
01:22:42,440 --> 01:22:44,016
Bro, how many languages
you speak, again?

1367
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,044
I mean, seven in code,
six spoken, two signs.

1368
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:48,121
That's cool.

1369
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,244
Great. Another language
I can't understand.

1370
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:57,685
Uh, I'll check you later, Ed.

1371
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:58,841
Okay. See you.

1372
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:04,605
Wait for it.

1373
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:08,242
Any moment.

1374
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:12,080
We got 'em.

1375
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:13,440
Lights over
Waziristan, gentlemen.

1376
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:15,121
Way to go.

1377
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,931
So what exactly do we
contribute to this?

1378
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:19,696
The underside of
that Reaper drone

1379
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:21,484
is fixed with
a big-ass antenna,

1380
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,331
snarfing the hardware ID
of anything that broadcasts.

1381
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,687
We do the geolocator.

1382
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:27,936
My friend Tasha
here at the Air Force

1383
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:29,610
rains hellfire.
There she is now.

1384
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:31,843
Hey, Trev.
You likin' the show?

1385
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,482
You know it. We track 'em,
you whack 'em.

1386
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:36,404
And who did we just track?

1387
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:38,764
Not who, what.

1388
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:42,003
We're targeting bad guys' cell phones.
Sometimes the SIM card.

1389
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,521
Okay, and how do we
know the bad guy

1390
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,204
is in possession of
the bad cell phone

1391
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:47,441
when we strike?

1392
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:48,567
Well, we don't...

1393
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,650
Course we do. JSOC and CIA have
their people in the field.

1394
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:54,490
What's the program name?

1395
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:56,850
Epic Shelter.

1396
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:00,083
It was originally some
backup program for, um...

1397
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:02,561
Catastrophic site failure.

1398
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:04,648
Yeah. How did
you know that?

1399
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,047
I built it.

1400
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:08,486
You?
Yeah.

1401
01:24:09,480 --> 01:24:11,376
You know I've actually...
I've been thinking about, uh,

1402
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,562
another use for Epic Shelter.

1403
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:14,687
What'd you have in mind?

1404
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,608
Well, I was chatting
with Jim Lowell

1405
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:18,736
about how there's
so many programs...

1406
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:19,807
Deputy Director Lowell?

1407
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,042
Yeah. Yeah.

1408
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,367
And we were saying there's
so many programs nowadays,

1409
01:24:24,440 --> 01:24:26,536
it's kind of impossible to keep
track of them anymore, right?

1410
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,245
So why not create
a centralized database.

1411
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:31,085
Ah. Like an index.

1412
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,481
Yeah, exactly. Something
that updates in real time,

1413
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:37,281
you know, we've already got Epic
Shelter collecting our finished Intel.

1414
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,842
We just need a web portal to
catalogue it, make it searchable.

1415
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:43,371
Let me think about it.

1416
01:24:43,440 --> 01:24:45,442
In any case, I'd have to
run it past Fort Meade.

1417
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:46,567
Of course.

1418
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:47,801
Did you have a name?

1419
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,007
Yeah, if it's not taken,
I'd call it Heartbeat.

1420
01:24:53,480 --> 01:24:56,211
Heartbeat. FEMALE DRONE
PILOT: Six, five, four,

1421
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,688
three, two, one...

1422
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:01,091
Engage target.

1423
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:17,605
You okay down there?

1424
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:19,847
Yep-

1425
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:23,365
See, this is why I keep saying
we need to hike more.

1426
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:25,486
You're right.

1427
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:27,041
Hey, can you look at me?

1428
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:28,121
Oh!

1429
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,360
Come on. It's been years.

1430
01:25:31,480 --> 01:25:34,370
By social media standards,
you don't even exist anymore.

1431
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,041
Just one.

1432
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,047
Okay, smile. Show me your teeth!

1433
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,491
My elusive E, finally captured.

1434
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:46,449
So now I'm a viable boyfriend?

1435
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:47,726
Yes.

1436
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,051
Such a shame, you used to be
such a cute little model.

1437
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:54,167
Little?
Yeah.

1438
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,368
Was I little?
Wait!

1439
01:25:58,560 --> 01:25:59,925
Stop!

1440
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:03,808
Oh, my God.
What?

1441
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:05,843
Think you got some sun!

1442
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,002
I'm serious, it looks good!

1443
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:09,445
Well, that's impossible.

1444
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:14,207
Hey, um, I've been meaning
to ask you, by the way.

1445
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:15,611
Did you switch pharmacies?

1446
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:20,048
'Cause I tried to pick up
your prescription,

1447
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,443
and I couldn't.

1448
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:24,760
Why did you do that?

1449
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,722
Uh, because I was there and
thought it would be helpful.

1450
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,003
I stopped taking the Tegretol.

1451
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,451
What? When?

1452
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,204
A couple months ago.

1453
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:52,416
And you're just now telling me?

1454
01:26:52,440 --> 01:26:54,204
I wanted to tell you.

1455
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,568
I did, I just... I can't take
that stuff, it makes me groggy,

1456
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,120
and I need to be sharp for work.

1457
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:01,850
I need to be on the
ball all the time.

1458
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:03,096
What is it about
this fucking job

1459
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,600
that makes it more
important than your life?

1460
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:08,326
I don't understand.

1461
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:09,731
Our government...

1462
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:13,811
Our government, what?

1463
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:18,122
Our government is hemorrhaging
billions of dollars

1464
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,726
every year to Chinese hackers.

1465
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,326
And I've been hired
to shut them down.

1466
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:28,800
A lot of people
are depending on me.

1467
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:31,843
More so than anyone else?

1468
01:27:33,480 --> 01:27:34,481
Yes.

1469
01:27:37,480 --> 01:27:41,166
No, this is bullshit.

1470
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:48,730
We didn't come to Hawaii
for you to heal, did we?

1471
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,207
There was never gonna be
a less stressful job out here.

1472
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,124
Look, I feel like
I'm made to do this.

1473
01:27:55,200 --> 01:28:00,161
And if I don't do it, then I don't
know anybody else that can.

1474
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:07,527
It's like I'm on a trajectory
that I can't turn back from.

1475
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,170
You can always turn back.

1476
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:17,886
What I wanted to see

1477
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:21,407
is if you could give me a yes
or no answer to the question,

1478
01:28:21,480 --> 01:28:25,883
"Does the NSA collect
any type of data at all

1479
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,407
"on millions or hundreds
of millions of Americans?"

1480
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:31,561
No, sir.

1481
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:33,645
It does not?

1482
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:36,810
Not wittingly.

1483
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,486
There are cases where
they could inadvertently,

1484
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:41,449
perhaps, uh, collect,

1485
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,124
but not wittingly.

1486
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:44,406
Oh, really?

1487
01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:46,448
Thank you, and
I'll have additional questions

1488
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:48,409
to give you in writing
on that point.

1489
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,085
Okay, so, uh,

1490
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,401
what I wanted to
show you guys is, um,

1491
01:28:53,480 --> 01:28:57,007
the slide I ran across while
building this indexing program.

1492
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:58,447
And what is this?

1493
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:00,330
Okay. So, this is
data collection

1494
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,323
for the month of March

1495
01:29:02,440 --> 01:29:04,681
worldwide,
emails and Skype calls.

1496
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:11,086
So France, 70 million. Germany,
500 million. Brazil, two billion.

1497
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,848
Inside the U.S.,

1498
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:17,163
3.1 billion emails and calls.

1499
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,607
That's not including any of
the telecom company data.

1500
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:21,523
Okay, so what's
the collection in Russia?

1501
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:25,647
Russia
is 1.5 billion.

1502
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:27,370
Wait, so we're collecting
twice as much

1503
01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:29,044
in the U.S.
as we are in Russia?

1504
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:30,256
Yeah, I figured it
was a lot, but...

1505
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,521
This shit is out of hand, man.

1506
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,682
Wait. Have you shown
this to anyone else?

1507
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,529
No, you guys are the first.

1508
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:38,847
Yeah, yeah, you know,
I'd be careful about that.

1509
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:40,936
You know, it could seem
like you're rocking the boat.

1510
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:41,961
Yeah, you're right.

1511
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,247
No, I just, uh, I needed to know

1512
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:46,641
if I was the only one that
thought this was crazy.

1513
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:48,725
What the fuck's going on?

1514
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:49,847
Hey, Trev.

1515
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:51,000
What are you doing in here?

1516
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:52,336
It's nothing.
I was just showing them

1517
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:54,806
this one slide,
I needed some input.

1518
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:56,006
Why the heat map?

1519
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:57,730
It's my bad, Trev.

1520
01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:59,802
I made a bet with Ed
about which country

1521
01:29:59,880 --> 01:30:02,486
we were collecting
the most signals from.

1522
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,483
He said Iran, I said Pakistan.

1523
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,005
Who won?

1524
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:08,766
Ed.

1525
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:13,641
Yeah, I need to
head out. I'll see you guys.

1526
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:14,976
You're going
down next time, man.

1527
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:16,126
Yeah, okay.

1528
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:18,930
No more bets.

1529
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,002
And I don't want anyone
unauthorized in here again.

1530
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:22,525
Especially not with Heartbeat.

1531
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:24,329
You're right.
Won't happen again.

1532
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,365
Happy birthday!

1533
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:48,569
In Vegas,
looking at Afghanistan.

1534
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:50,768
So we're running late hours.

1535
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,645
So this blurry object comes
wandering into the strike zone.

1536
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,249
We all knew that it was a kid.

1537
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:57,521
Poof

1538
01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:58,921
He's gone.

1539
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,287
We called in for clarification,
and the report came back

1540
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:04,089
that it was a dog.

1541
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:06,245
Okay. Fine.

1542
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:11,010
Shift's long, day and night.
I don't remember.

1543
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:14,004
But same village,
two, three days later.

1544
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:15,366
We see the funeral party.

1545
01:31:15,440 --> 01:31:17,647
We knew it was a kid
that they were burying.

1546
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:19,927
Moms and dads wailing.

1547
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,731
And then the order comes down.
Pretty clear. Hit 'em.

1548
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:24,401
Poof

1549
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:29,490
And they are gone
in a cloud of dust.

1550
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:36,171
I mean, all of them.
The whole fuckin' family.

1551
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:38,803
But the crazy thing is,

1552
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:40,723
you come home after work,

1553
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:44,930
kiss your wife, your kids,
back to work the next day.

1554
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:50,171
Pretty soon, you know,
it just all becomes routine.

1555
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:54,525
Fuck that.

1556
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:58,400
You make it sound criminal, man.
It's war. It's a job.

1557
01:31:58,480 --> 01:32:02,121
Oh, I don't know, man. You
saying jobs can't be criminal?

1558
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:04,320
Not if you're working
for the government.

1559
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:07,765
You ever hear about
the Nuremberg trials, Trev?

1560
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:10,370
They weren't that long ago.

1561
01:32:10,440 --> 01:32:13,523
Yeah. And we hung
the Nazi big shots, right?

1562
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,527
Yeah, well, the big shots
were the first trial,

1563
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:20,525
but then the next trial
were just the judges,

1564
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:23,604
and lawyers,
and policemen, and guards,

1565
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:28,288
and ordinary people just doing
their jobs, following orders.

1566
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:31,608
That's where we got
the Nuremberg principles,

1567
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:35,810
which then the UN made
into international law,

1568
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:40,363
just in case ordinary jobs
become criminal again.

1569
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:44,926
Just sayin'.

1570
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:58,136
That's gotta
wake you up. You okay?

1571
01:32:58,160 --> 01:32:59,605
See, I told you
not to grab my hand.

1572
01:33:12,440 --> 01:33:13,885
Fucking touch me anymore.

1573
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:32,682
Dude! Dude, are you okay?
On, my God.

1574
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:34,205
Ed, are you okay?

1575
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:36,089
Are you okay, man?
I think he's having a...

1576
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:37,884
Get away, don't touch him.

1577
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:39,760
- Don't touch him, don't touch him.
- Don't...

1578
01:34:08,480 --> 01:34:12,565
Hey, Ed. How are you?
How's your health?

1579
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:15,128
Hey, Corbin. Uh...

1580
01:34:17,440 --> 01:34:19,966
It's fine.
Thanks for asking.

1581
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:22,931
Must be nerve-wrecking
living with that condition.

1582
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,243
You wouldn't know it
to look at your numbers.

1583
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:30,403
Two hundred Chinese IPs down
in your first four months.

1584
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:35,564
Those are, uh, internal numbers.

1585
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:39,247
Your colleague, Trevor,
comes out of the CIA like you.

1586
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:43,126
He's been, uh, keeping me
informed on your progress.

1587
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:48,763
It's outstanding
work. Heartbeat as well.

1588
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:52,564
Thank you. Thanks.
That means a lot.

1589
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,769
Lowell is very pleased.
He, uh, sends his regards.

1590
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:57,640
That's great to hear.

1591
01:34:58,680 --> 01:34:59,966
He, um...

1592
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,730
He doesn't know about
your heat map conversations,

1593
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,963
or some of the ideas you've
expressed to your colleagues.

1594
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:12,131
And he's not going to.

1595
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:14,645
Yeah. Uh...

1596
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:19,485
You know, Heartbeat
is proving a tricky project.

1597
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,528
Collating from
multiple agencies,

1598
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,080
and knowing where to pull from.

1599
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:27,369
It has helped to talk
it over with colleagues.

1600
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:30,245
I believe in you, Ed.

1601
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:35,168
Which is why nothing happened to
you after the derog in Geneva.

1602
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:38,811
And I'm very grateful
you've looked out for me.

1603
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:40,001
Or after you, uh,

1604
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:45,090
omitted the truth
in your last polygraph.

1605
01:35:47,480 --> 01:35:50,051
What was it you were
withholding exactly?

1606
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:51,927
Hmm?

1607
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:58,451
You remember that day in class,

1608
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:01,285
you were talking to us
about the FISA Court?

1609
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:06,366
You said that they approved
Bush's wiretapping programs.

1610
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:11,203
Sometimes we're restricted
from telling the whole truth.

1611
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:15,281
Doesn't give us
permission to lie.

1612
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,443
Come on, Corbin,

1613
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,569
the Director of National
Intelligence just lied to Congress!

1614
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:25,207
Sorry.

1615
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:31,725
Look at me.

1616
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:41,285
Did you access
an unauthorized program

1617
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:43,886
that I did not know about?

1618
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:51,211
Yes.

1619
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:54,011
It was, uh...

1620
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:56,809
It was at Geneva.
It was Lindsay.

1621
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:58,166
I was jealous.

1622
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:02,251
And I'm sorry.
I never did it again.

1623
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:17,241
Listen, Ed.

1624
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:24,687
I know it's been up and down with
you and Lindsay since Geneva.

1625
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:29,684
It's tough to keep any relationship going.
Few of us do.

1626
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:35,163
So, if it'll give you any peace
of mind, I can assure you,

1627
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:39,882
she's not sleeping with that
photographer friend of hers.

1628
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:42,089
If that's what you're thinking.

1629
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:47,689
I have to go to
a Five Eyes conference

1630
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:49,489
in Sydney in a couple of weeks.

1631
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:51,801
I'll stop off in Hawaii
on the way back.

1632
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:54,766
Okay?

1633
01:37:56,440 --> 01:37:59,205
Okay. Thank you.

1634
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:02,971
I'll see you soon.

1635
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:20,406
Hey, Dad.

1636
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:25,084
Good. Did you get the e-mail
that I sent you with the photos?

1637
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:27,761
Uh-huh.

1638
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:31,323
Well, I was hoping that
you could send me some...

1639
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:42,007
What are you doing?

1640
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:05,241
Sit down.

1641
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,364
Your e-mail is
being monitored.

1642
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:17,207
So?

1643
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:18,967
No, it's different now.

1644
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:21,520
It's not passive collection,
it's full-take surveillance.

1645
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:25,486
It's all of your e-mails, calls,
texts, social media, everything.

1646
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:30,009
It's also possible
that the house is bugged.

1647
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:31,440
I'm not sure.

1648
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:33,246
By who?

1649
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:37,410
By a senior officer at the CIA.

1650
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,006
You in trouble?
Is it the Chinese thing?

1651
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:46,441
Look, there's things
that I wish I could tell you,

1652
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:50,411
but I can't because
you could get very hurt.

1653
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,810
What's keeping you safe is
that you don't know anything.

1654
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:03,962
I'm sorry, I really am. I didn't
want any of this for you.

1655
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:10,448
But I know you would think
I was doing the right thing.

1656
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:18,323
So just listen to me
for a sec, okay?

1657
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:21,483
When we go back in the house,
everything has to appear normal.

1658
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:23,688
We're gonna act like
nothing has changed,

1659
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:26,206
but if you do notice
something that's weird,

1660
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:28,123
you need to tell me right away.

1661
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:31,608
And you're gonna use an encrypted
e-mail that I'm setting up for you.

1662
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:34,047
Oh, my God,
I don't think I can do this.

1663
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:35,690
Yes, you can.
I know you can.

1664
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:39,170
Do I even have a choice?

1665
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:41,884
I'm asking you to trust me.

1666
01:40:50,480 --> 01:40:51,736
And, Linds, I think it'd be best

1667
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:54,366
if you went back
to Maryland for a while.

1668
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:58,761
Tell your parents that I'm
away on a business trip

1669
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:01,286
and that you're homesick.

1670
01:41:01,480 --> 01:41:03,084
Are you going away?

1671
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:05,720
Yes. But just
for a little while.

1672
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:14,241
No.

1673
01:41:15,480 --> 01:41:16,481
No, I can't go.

1674
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:18,005
Please.
Just until I get back.

1675
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:19,206
I can't go.

1676
01:41:21,480 --> 01:41:25,963
You just said that we have to
appear like nothing's changed.

1677
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:29,642
If both of us left at the same time,
wouldn't that seem suspicious?

1678
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:41,650
I will do this for you.

1679
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:48,643
But it is the last time.

1680
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:26,166
Yo! Yo, you hear
about Trevor, bro?

1681
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:27,321
No, what?

1682
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:29,801
You remember that op
to own the Internet in Syria?

1683
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:31,086
Yeah.
Yeah.

1684
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:33,640
Trevor and his TAO team
crashed the core router.

1685
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:36,810
Bro, the whole
country's gone dark.

1686
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:38,649
Jesus Christ.

1687
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:39,767
Figure it out!

1688
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:40,927
Poor bastards.

1689
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:45,089
Okay, I'm gonna, uh...
I gotta get to work.

1690
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:46,207
Yeah. Yeah, me too.

1691
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:48,924
So, Ed, how's, uh...

1692
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,170
How's Heartbeat coming?

1693
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:53,041
It's close.

1694
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:55,921
It's very close.

1695
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:57,771
Pull it up on this monitor.

1696
01:42:57,840 --> 01:42:59,000
I'm still trying to access...

1697
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:00,496
Don't tell me you're
involved in this, too?

1698
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:04,320
Well, Trevor fucking roped me into going
through their zero-day exploit codes.

1699
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:06,641
This thing is
a fucking mess, man.

1700
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:11,448
Why did I agree to this?
Good luck.

1701
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:13,881
This is Patrick...

1702
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:16,364
What you're gonna
do is you're gonna...

1703
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:24,564
I told him, I...
Help them.

1704
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:52,451
Okay.
Get back to work, guys.

1705
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:53,521
No, Patrick, show me.

1706
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:39,925
Talk about
getting hung out to dry.

1707
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:41,729
Yeah. Are we set?

1708
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:44,771
Trouble with the Navy?

1709
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:47,576
One of those idiots ripped
some bullshit piece of Israeli code

1710
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:49,976
and jammed it down our payload.
Can you fucking believe that?

1711
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:51,081
Script kiddies.

1712
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:52,616
I know, I know. I
should have listened to you.

1713
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:54,005
God damn it.
Is this it?

1714
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:55,366
Here.
Yeah, this is it.

1715
01:45:55,440 --> 01:45:58,011
I'm gonna make the goddamn
Israelis take the fall for this.

1716
01:45:58,800 --> 01:45:59,961
Come on.

1717
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:04,929
Got it? I'm not taking
the fall for this.

1718
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:15,681
Patrick.

1719
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:20,804
Still working on it,
Trev. Hold on.

1720
01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:22,121
Nothing. Still nothing.

1721
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:34,721
Yeah, but...

1722
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:20,728
You, uh... You headed
home already?

1723
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:24,088
Yeah. I'm not
feeling so well.

1724
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:26,162
Might not be in tomorrow either.

1725
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:28,450
You know, Trevor's kind of busy,

1726
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:29,965
maybe you could
let him know for me?

1727
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:32,122
Yeah. Yeah, man.
It'd be my pleasure.

1728
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:35,251
You know, if you're, uh...

1729
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:37,766
If you're really not feeling well,
dude, maybe you should, uh,

1730
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:40,089
go back to the States
and see your doctor.

1731
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:43,323
I think that, you know,
folks would understand that.

1732
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:47,844
That sounds like a smart thing.

1733
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:56,411
Take care of yourself.

1734
01:47:57,040 --> 01:47:58,326
Yeah, you too, bro.

1735
01:48:19,440 --> 01:48:20,487
Hey.
Hey.

1736
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:23,444
You ever play with one of these?

1737
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:26,166
Yeah, when I was a kid.

1738
01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:28,607
Yeah. You should try it.
It's hard.

1739
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:51,451
I can't figure this out.

1740
01:48:57,840 --> 01:48:59,490
I don't know about this.

1741
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:01,696
Yeah, you gotta start with
the white cross, actually,

1742
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:03,210
and then you do the corners.

1743
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:04,761
Oh, man.

1744
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:07,889
Look, I love these things.

1745
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:09,291
Hey, have a good weekend, man.

1746
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:10,850
You too, buddy.
All right.

1747
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:07,806
It's live.

1748
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:14,968
There's a link to
the FISA court order.

1749
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:24,841
Well done, Janine.

1750
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:26,445
I told you
she wasn't a pushover.

1751
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:28,727
Well, it feels so
goddamn good to be wrong.

1752
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:39,696
Breaking news tonight. Reports
that through a secret court order,

1753
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:42,291
the Obama administration is
collecting the phone records

1754
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:44,044
of millions of
Verizon customers.

1755
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:46,376
That's been reported by the
Guardian newspaper in the U.K.

1756
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:47,686
The specific court order shows

1757
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:50,889
that all the information is going
to the National Security Agency.

1758
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:55,048
How's that for
mainstream media, Glenn?

1759
01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:57,805
They can't shut this down now. And
we've got four more days of it.

1760
01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:00,002
They have no idea what
they're in store for.

1761
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:01,161
That's fantastic!

1762
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:04,080
Former Speaker of the House
is on the grill tonight and joins me now.

1763
01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:06,487
Another explosive
article has just appeared,

1764
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:08,005
this time in
The Washington Post.

1765
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:10,162
It's breaking news
that it reveals

1766
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:13,642
another broad and secret U.S.
government surveillance program.

1767
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:17,327
The Washington Post and the
Guardian in London reporting

1768
01:51:17,440 --> 01:51:18,930
that the NSA and the FBI

1769
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:22,129
are tapping directly
into the central servers

1770
01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:24,521
of nine leading
Internet companies,

1771
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:27,206
including Microsoft,
Yahoo, Google, Facebook,

1772
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:30,204
AOL, Skype, YouTube, and Apple.

1773
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,521
The Post says
they're extracting audio,

1774
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:35,444
video, photographs,
e-mails, documents,

1775
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:36,726
and connection logs

1776
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:39,121
that enable analysts to
track a person's movements

1777
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:41,441
and contacts over time.

1778
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:48,327
In the abstract, you can
complain about Big Brother

1779
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:52,530
and how this is a potential
program run amok.

1780
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:54,802
But when you actually
look at the details,

1781
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:56,962
then I think we've struck
the right balance.

1782
01:51:57,040 --> 01:52:00,203
U.S. President
Barack Obama staunchly defends

1783
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:02,487
U.S. government programs,

1784
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:05,928
insisting that they were
conducted with broad safeguards

1785
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:08,287
and to protect against abuse.

1786
01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:12,401
He reached the conclusion
that what was happening

1787
01:52:12,480 --> 01:52:14,881
inside this really
secretive agency

1788
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,247
uh, was very
threatening and menacing

1789
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:19,721
to privacy rights,
to Internet freedom,

1790
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:22,610
to basic political liberty,
not only in the United States,

1791
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:24,728
but all around the world.

1792
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:28,526
And he felt it was his duty as
a human being to disclose it.

1793
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:42,563
Uh, my name's Ed Snowden.
I'm 29 years old.

1794
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:44,085
I work for Booz Allen Hamilton

1795
01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:47,687
as an infrastructure analyst
for NSA in Hawaii.

1796
01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:00,481
The identity of the man
who sent the Obama...

1797
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:04,770
You can't come forward against the
most powerful intelligence agencies

1798
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:07,451
in the world without expecting
to have some risk.

1799
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:09,602
They're just such
powerful adversaries.

1800
01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:12,610
So no one can
meaningfully oppose them.

1801
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:13,801
He did it.

1802
01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:16,724
You know, if they want to get
you, they will get you, in time.

1803
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:17,801
The kid did it!

1804
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:19,816
And it's just gonna get
worse for the next generation,

1805
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:21,205
as they extend the capabilities

1806
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:24,807
of this sort of
architecture of oppression.

1807
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:29,204
And you realize that you might
be willing to accept any risk,

1808
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:33,041
as long as the public is able
to make their own decision

1809
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:34,764
about how this is applied.

1810
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:37,731
Because even if you haven't
done anything wrong,

1811
01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:39,768
you're being
watched and recorded.

1812
01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:44,243
Look, I had access to the
entire intelligence community.

1813
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:47,563
So, if I had wanted
to harm the U.S.,

1814
01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:51,884
you could shut down the entire
surveillance system in an afternoon.

1815
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:55,248
But that was never my intention.

1816
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:58,403
And I think anybody
that's making that argument,

1817
01:53:58,480 --> 01:54:02,849
they have to think,
if they were in my position,

1818
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:06,686
living in Hawaii, in paradise,
and making a ton of money,

1819
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:11,641
what would it take to make
you leave everything behind?

1820
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:17,368
The fear that I think I have
most in regards to the outcome

1821
01:54:17,440 --> 01:54:20,205
for America of these disclosures

1822
01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:22,487
is that nothing will change.

1823
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:26,360
In the coming months and the coming
years, it'll just get worse.

1824
01:54:26,440 --> 01:54:29,011
And then eventually,
at some point,

1825
01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:33,165
some new leader will be elected

1826
01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:37,131
who flips the switch,

1827
01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:44,049
and the people won't be able to do
anything, by that point, to oppose it.

1828
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:47,082
And it'll be turnkey tyranny.

1829
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:50,201
How you holding up?

1830
01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:53,282
Yeah, I'll be fine.

1831
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:55,696
It's you guys that have
to start watching out

1832
01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:57,210
for yourselves now.

1833
01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:00,886
You know, if you have
any reason to believe

1834
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:05,568
that you're about to be raided or
intercepted or breached in any way,

1835
01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:10,202
you format and destroy
all the data immediately.

1836
01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:13,250
You have the encrypted backups.

1837
01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:15,451
And now, I...

1838
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:21,364
I no longer have any access
to these files myself.

1839
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:23,090
You guys have them all.

1840
01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:26,201
Uh...

1841
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:29,490
Keep the focus on the stories,
that's all that matters.

1842
01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:33,170
If you'll excuse me, it's...

1843
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:38,082
I think we should all get some rest.
We can use it.

1844
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:41,443
Yeah. I should probably
lay down on a soft bed

1845
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:43,568
while I still have
one available, right?

1846
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:47,089
You rest well.
Thank you.

1847
01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:50,725
See you tomorrow.
Good night.

1848
01:56:21,160 --> 01:56:23,367
Can you at least tell me
where you're going?

1849
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:49,810
Listen, I know that I'm...

1850
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:09,764
Ewen, I'm on the second floor.

1851
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:12,611
I don't see Tibbo.

1852
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:17,247
No. No, no, wait.
Okay. I think I see him.

1853
01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:19,246
Shit!

1854
01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:22,281
There's press swarming
all over the hotel.

1855
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:24,044
Yeah, I don't know.
I'll figure it out.

1856
01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:26,168
I'll stop them with a press
conference or something.

1857
01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:30,205
Hey, I'm Glenn. Look, we
really appreciate this.

1858
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:32,416
We understand you're one of the
best lawyers in Hong Kong.

1859
01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:33,487
We'll do our best.

1860
01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:36,530
We're gonna take him to the UN
first, then I prefer not to reveal.

1861
01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:37,600
I understand.

1862
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:39,927
Shit. They spotted me.
You guys get going.

1863
01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:45,296
Okay, I will take your questions
in an orderly fashion.

1864
01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:46,456
Where is Snowden?
Do you know where he is?

1865
01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:47,600
Come on, please let us know!

1866
01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:49,241
Did you get them?

1867
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:50,924
Yeah, this is the best
I could do.

1868
01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:53,611
You're meeting Tibbo
in five minutes,

1869
01:57:53,680 --> 01:57:56,206
on the skybridge
opposite the large mall.

1870
01:57:59,960 --> 01:58:04,204
I've met a lot of astonishing
people in my life, but you...

1871
01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:08,687
Okay, laddie.
Off you go.

1872
01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:11,130
I won't let you down.

1873
01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:15,806
You'd make a shitty journalist
without a camera.

1874
01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:18,444
Are you sure?
Yeah.

1875
01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:21,804
Okay. That's a great idea.

1876
01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:24,681
Thanks.

1877
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:29,168
Oh! You don't want to
leave your luck behind.

1878
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:30,721
Oh.

1879
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:32,849
I think I'd like you
to have that.

1880
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:37,281
Thanks for everything.

1881
01:58:37,960 --> 01:58:39,041
Thank you.

1882
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:04,051
I have a van on the street.

1883
01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:12,403
NSA leaker Edward
Snowden has now been charged formally

1884
01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:17,247
with espionage, theft, and
conversion of government property.

1885
01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:19,124
U.S.
Officials have asked Hong Kong

1886
01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:20,725
to detain the former contractor

1887
01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:22,649
on a provisional arrest warrant.

1888
01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:24,848
Snowden has been
in Hong Kong since May...

1889
01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:28,129
remember, that
was back reportedly on May 20th.

1890
01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:31,331
Snowden has checked
out of the luxury hotel in Hong Kong,

1891
01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:32,640
where he had been holed up.

1892
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:36,896
You might turn your eyes away.

1893
01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:38,360
Not likely
take action against him

1894
01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:39,496
without an arrest
warrant from the U. S.

1895
01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:42,171
The Justice Department
had to go to Interpol so that Snowden,

1896
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:44,496
if he tried to cross a border, he
could be intercepted and detained.

1897
01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:45,931
Snowden is still in hiding.

1898
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:47,001
So again...

1899
01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:48,764
But the
Americans are now closing in.

1900
01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:51,002
They almost certainly know
where he is,

1901
01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:53,726
they just need Hong Kong's
approval to get him.

1902
01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:55,529
The Hong
Kong government does have

1903
01:59:55,600 --> 01:59:57,648
an extradition agreement
with Washington.

1904
01:59:57,720 --> 01:59:58,846
But the ultimate decision...

1905
01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:02,362
So the big
question here is, where is he now?

1906
02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:08,169
Thank you.
This is Ed. Ed, Mayana.

1907
02:00:08,240 --> 02:00:09,924
Hi, Ed. Welcome.
Thank you.

1908
02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:11,890
Thank you.

1909
02:00:12,800 --> 02:00:14,723
These are good people.
They won't talk.

1910
02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:18,170
I've been handling their cases for years.
They're like you.

1911
02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:19,446
That's so nice.

1912
02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:21,649
They're stateless.
Yeah.

1913
02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:25,567
So we're waiting on the UN
application for refugee status.

1914
02:00:25,640 --> 02:00:26,766
Yeah.

1915
02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:29,684
Just in case you're arrested,
this is where you can call me.

1916
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:30,807
Yeah.

1917
02:00:32,960 --> 02:00:34,121
Good.

1918
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:36,131
Thank you so much.

1919
02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:45,008
You may not feel it,
Ed, but you're not alone.

1920
02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:46,961
Thank you.

1921
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:51,648
His longtime
girlfriend, Lindsay Mills,

1922
02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:52,926
an amateur photographer,

1923
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:54,411
has not been heard from.

1924
02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:56,403
It's believed she's in seclusion

1925
02:00:56,480 --> 02:00:58,005
in her parents' home
in Maryland,

1926
02:00:58,080 --> 02:00:59,923
and has been questioned
by the FBI

1927
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:01,923
and remains under investigation.

1928
02:01:03,840 --> 02:01:07,606
Ten days have now gone by,
as the world looks for Edward Snowden.

1929
02:01:07,680 --> 02:01:11,082
Rumors have surfaced that a rich
supporter is hiding Snowden

1930
02:01:11,200 --> 02:01:14,522
somewhere in the Hong Kong
hills in a private mansion.

1931
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:48,927
It is now
confirmed that Edward Snowden

1932
02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:51,321
has boarded a flight
from Hong Kong to Moscow.

1933
02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:53,289
The State Department
is very disappointed

1934
02:01:53,360 --> 02:01:54,964
in the authorities in Hong Kong

1935
02:01:55,040 --> 02:01:56,690
for letting Snowden go.

1936
02:01:56,760 --> 02:01:59,331
He was accompanied
by a representative from WikiLeaks.

1937
02:01:59,400 --> 02:02:02,563
Snowden is trying
to make his way from Russia to Cuba,

1938
02:02:02,640 --> 02:02:04,847
and then to Ecuador
for political asylum.

1939
02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:07,167
Moscow airport
officials say he won't be permitted

1940
02:02:07,240 --> 02:02:08,651
to make his connective flight

1941
02:02:08,720 --> 02:02:11,166
because the U.S. government
has revoked his passport.

1942
02:02:11,240 --> 02:02:13,971
The United States
Secretary of State, John Kerry,

1943
02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:17,931
outraged that Russia is refusing
to arrest the American fugitive.

1944
02:02:18,000 --> 02:02:22,164
Now a man without a country
stranded inside the Moscow airport.

1945
02:02:22,240 --> 02:02:24,925
No, I'm not gonna
be scrambling jets, uh,

1946
02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:29,608
to get a 29-year-old hacker.

1947
02:02:31,160 --> 02:02:32,650
The President of Bolivia's plane

1948
02:02:32,720 --> 02:02:35,007
was forced down in
Austria airspace today

1949
02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:39,369
following U.S. suspicions that
Snowden may have been on board.

1950
02:02:39,440 --> 02:02:41,807
After 39 days in the airport hotel,

1951
02:02:41,880 --> 02:02:44,326
he's left with his Russian
lawyer and a legal advisor

1952
02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:46,528
from WikiLeaks, Sarah Harrison.

1953
02:02:47,400 --> 02:02:50,210
He can now enjoy
all of the sweet, sweet liberty

1954
02:02:50,280 --> 02:02:53,443
allowed under the regime
of President Vladimir Putin.

1955
02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:56,729
There is still
a thing called execution.

1956
02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:58,176
Mr. Snowden
actually deserves asylum

1957
02:02:58,200 --> 02:02:59,486
and protection around the globe.

1958
02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:02,729
But he does have asylum
in Russia at least.

1959
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:04,802
He can engage in
the debate he started.

1960
02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:06,726
And the world now has an example

1961
02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:08,080
that you can do the right thing,

1962
02:03:08,120 --> 02:03:11,886
and you don't have to end up
in a cage, one room, a prison.

1963
02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:17,169
After more than a year
in the country under temporary asylum,

1964
02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:21,643
Edward Snowden has received a
three-year residency permit in Russia.

1965
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:33,049
And now, here live from Moscow,

1966
02:03:33,320 --> 02:03:34,924
Edward Snowden.

1967
02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:38,169
Hi, Ed. How you doing?

1968
02:03:43,560 --> 02:03:45,005
Thank you.

1969
02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:48,007
Uh, forgive me if I get my
bearings a little bit here.

1970
02:03:48,080 --> 02:03:50,560
People always said
I was kind of a robot.

1971
02:03:52,040 --> 02:03:54,566
How is it that
you came to be in Russia?

1972
02:03:55,160 --> 02:03:56,924
Well, I never intended
to come here.

1973
02:03:57,000 --> 02:04:00,925
You know, my passport was revoked
en route to Latin America.

1974
02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:03,651
So when people say,
"Why are you in Russia?"

1975
02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:06,610
I say,
"Ask the State Department."

1976
02:04:07,520 --> 02:04:11,047
Does that mean you're willing
to go back and face trial?

1977
02:04:11,720 --> 02:04:15,645
Absolutely, if it was
a fair and public trial.

1978
02:04:16,280 --> 02:04:19,045
Unfortunately, that's not
what would happen right now,

1979
02:04:19,120 --> 02:04:23,205
as long as the Espionage Act is
being used against whistleblowers.

1980
02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:26,528
Do you still
think it was worth it?

1981
02:04:26,600 --> 02:04:27,647
Yes, I do.

1982
02:04:27,720 --> 02:04:31,645
Without the information
to start a public debate,

1983
02:04:31,720 --> 02:04:33,131
we're lost.
You know...

1984
02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:37,281
The people being able
to question our government

1985
02:04:37,360 --> 02:04:39,966
and hold it accountable,

1986
02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:44,967
that's the principle that the United
States of America was founded on.

1987
02:04:45,080 --> 02:04:48,801
So if we want to protect
our national security,

1988
02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:51,326
we should be protecting
that principle.

1989
02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:55,247
What if your
argument falls on deaf ears?

1990
02:04:55,320 --> 02:04:57,641
What if our leaders don't act?

1991
02:04:58,440 --> 02:05:01,683
I believe that,
if nothing changes,

1992
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:07,242
more and more people all over
the world will come forward.

1993
02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:12,926
Whistleblowers and journalists,
but also regular citizens.

1994
02:05:13,760 --> 02:05:19,608
And when those in power try to
hide by classifying everything,

1995
02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:23,204
we will call them out on it.

1996
02:05:23,720 --> 02:05:29,489
And when they try to scare us into
sacrificing our basic human rights,

1997
02:05:29,560 --> 02:05:31,847
we won't be intimidated,

1998
02:05:31,960 --> 02:05:36,602
and we won't give up,
and we will not be silenced.

1999
02:05:38,240 --> 02:05:40,083
You're alone in
a foreign country,

2000
02:05:40,160 --> 02:05:43,403
you'll be extradited
if you try to leave.

2001
02:05:43,480 --> 02:05:45,164
That must be hard.

2002
02:05:57,680 --> 02:06:01,241
When I left Hawaii,
I lost everything.

2003
02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:06,848
And I had a stable life.

2004
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:12,008
A stable love.

2005
02:06:12,080 --> 02:06:14,003
Family. Future.

2006
02:06:15,800 --> 02:06:17,643
And I lost that life,

2007
02:06:20,600 --> 02:06:22,648
but I've gained a new one,

2008
02:06:25,120 --> 02:06:26,963
and I'm incredibly fortunate.

2009
02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:30,731
And I think

2010
02:06:32,720 --> 02:06:34,165
the greatest freedom
that I've gained

2011
02:06:34,240 --> 02:06:37,847
is the fact that I no longer have to
worry about what happens tomorrow,

2012
02:06:37,920 --> 02:06:40,321
because I'm happy with
what I've done today.

2013
02:06:45,920 --> 02:06:48,764
Live from the Internet,
Edward Snowden!

2014
02:08:06,760 --> 02:08:08,410
Has your
mindset changed about him?

2015
02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:12,565
Is he now more whistleblower
than he is a, uh, hacker?

2016
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:51,928
What is going
to happen to Edward Snowden?

2017
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:54,731
He's going to die in Moscow.
He's not coming home.

2018
02:09:32,800 --> 02:09:35,007
Edward Snowden,
is he a traitor or a hero?

2019
02:09:35,120 --> 02:09:38,363
He stole
very important information.

2020
02:09:56,960 --> 02:09:58,291
We have breaking news tonight...

2021
02:09:58,360 --> 02:09:59,361
Among the reforms,

2022
02:09:59,440 --> 02:10:02,125
work with Congress to change how
the NSA collects phone records.

2023
02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:05,766
Mandate more transparency
by the secret court

2024
02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:07,922
that regularly approves
the surveillance.

2025
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:11,808
Well, is it
a victory for Edward Snowden?

2026
02:10:11,880 --> 02:10:13,723
That's gonna depend
on the eye of the beholder.

2027
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:17,887
The American
government was acting illegally.

2028
02:10:17,960 --> 02:10:20,884
I don't think he should
be brought home without facing the music.

2029
02:10:22,960 --> 02:10:24,769
Snowden played
a very important role

2030
02:10:24,840 --> 02:10:27,002
in educating the American people

2031
02:10:27,080 --> 02:10:31,483
to the degree in which our civil
liberties and our constitutional rights

2032
02:10:31,560 --> 02:10:32,721
are being undermined.