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  8. Ladies and gentlemen, good evening.
  9.  
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  12. This is the story
  13. of Orson Welles' last movie,
  14.  
  15. 3
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  17. <i>The Other Side of the Wind.</i>
  18.  
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  21. Uh, this is May 11th, 1971,
  22. <i>The Other Side of the Wind.</i>
  23.  
  24. 5
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  26. Orson Welles. Um...
  27.  
  28. 6
  29. 00:00:57,266 --> 00:00:59,726
  30. - Sound roll number eight.
  31. - Rolling.
  32.  
  33. 7
  34. 00:01:00,060 --> 00:01:03,355
  35. 'Cause you always start announcing
  36. it before I roll. All right, now,
  37.  
  38. 8
  39. 00:01:03,438 --> 00:01:04,523
  40. I'll announce it.
  41.  
  42. 9
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  44. Scene 58, take one.
  45.  
  46. 10
  47. 00:01:08,569 --> 00:01:12,698
  48. <i>What you're about to watch
  49. is made up of fragments of the materials</i>
  50.  
  51. 11
  52. 00:01:12,781 --> 00:01:16,159
  53. <i>that Orson and others left behind.</i>
  54.  
  55. 12
  56. 00:01:19,955 --> 00:01:22,583
  57. <i>Many of Orson's films started
  58. with a death...</i>
  59.  
  60. 13
  61. 00:01:24,001 --> 00:01:25,335
  62. <i>and so does ours.</i>
  63.  
  64. 14
  65. 00:01:31,091 --> 00:01:34,928
  66. When Orson Welles died yesterday,
  67. he was, as he had been most of his life,
  68.  
  69. 15
  70. 00:01:35,012 --> 00:01:36,847
  71. in the midst of several film projects.
  72.  
  73. 16
  74. 00:01:37,472 --> 00:01:40,559
  75. It was the end of a career
  76. that had once promised so much.
  77.  
  78. 17
  79. 00:01:41,143 --> 00:01:43,645
  80. He was a giant of a man
  81. who made <i>Citizen Kane,</i>
  82.  
  83. 18
  84. 00:01:44,062 --> 00:01:47,357
  85. who once scared America half to death
  86. with his<i> War of the Worlds.</i>
  87.  
  88. 19
  89. 00:01:48,609 --> 00:01:51,028
  90. He'd been called a genius
  91. almost from birth.
  92.  
  93. 20
  94. 00:01:51,236 --> 00:01:54,239
  95. He was reading at two,
  96. performing Shakespeare at ten.
  97.  
  98. 21
  99. 00:01:54,823 --> 00:01:58,410
  100. Regrettably, his later years never matched
  101. the promise of his early years.
  102.  
  103. 22
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  105. He drifted off to lesser work
  106. and grew enormously fat.
  107.  
  108. 23
  109. 00:02:03,582 --> 00:02:05,417
  110. Movies were never finished.
  111.  
  112. 24
  113. 00:02:05,542 --> 00:02:08,128
  114. There was this one,
  115. <i>The Other Side of the Wind,</i>
  116.  
  117. 25
  118. 00:02:08,378 --> 00:02:10,172
  119. about a world-famous filmmaker.
  120.  
  121. 26
  122. 00:02:10,672 --> 00:02:12,883
  123. Perhaps Welles' vision of himself.
  124.  
  125. 27
  126. 00:02:13,717 --> 00:02:17,763
  127. <i>How we sum up a person's life
  128. and the truth of that life</i>
  129.  
  130. 28
  131. 00:02:18,221 --> 00:02:20,140
  132. <i>are rarely he same thing.</i>
  133.  
  134. 29
  135. 00:02:21,141 --> 00:02:23,769
  136. Almost any story is almost certainly
  137.  
  138. 30
  139. 00:02:23,852 --> 00:02:25,604
  140. some kind of lie.
  141.  
  142. 31
  143. 00:02:27,272 --> 00:02:28,482
  144. But not this time.
  145.  
  146. 32
  147. 00:02:29,483 --> 00:02:32,861
  148. <i>This time, the story
  149. of </i>The Other Side of the Wind
  150.  
  151. 33
  152. 00:02:32,944 --> 00:02:35,614
  153. <i>is being told by the people
  154. who were there:</i>
  155.  
  156. 34
  157. 00:02:35,697 --> 00:02:39,868
  158. <i>cast and crew, friends and family.</i>
  159.  
  160. 35
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  162. - My God, you're shooting from over there?
  163. - Why not?
  164.  
  165. 36
  166. 00:02:50,212 --> 00:02:53,423
  167. Orson said,
  168. "They'll love me when I'm dead."
  169.  
  170. 37
  171. 00:02:53,507 --> 00:02:56,176
  172. No, Orson denied ever saying that.
  173.  
  174. 38
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  176. - It's almost true.
  177. - It's not true.
  178.  
  179. 39
  180. 00:03:01,014 --> 00:03:03,642
  181. Our movie starts long before
  182. things went wrong.
  183.  
  184. 40
  185. 00:03:04,434 --> 00:03:06,520
  186. And they did go horribly wrong.
  187.  
  188. 41
  189. 00:03:07,312 --> 00:03:09,940
  190. But it begins at a moment of promise
  191. for Orson.
  192.  
  193. 42
  194. 00:03:10,982 --> 00:03:11,982
  195. Let's watch.
  196.  
  197. 43
  198. 00:03:15,779 --> 00:03:16,863
  199. Mr. Orson Welles.
  200.  
  201. 44
  202. 00:03:21,993 --> 00:03:23,673
  203. Every time you'd mention his name,
  204.  
  205. 45
  206. 00:03:23,787 --> 00:03:25,997
  207. people would say,
  208. "What did he do since <i>Citizen Kane?"</i>
  209.  
  210. 46
  211. 00:03:26,081 --> 00:03:29,376
  212. <i>Citizen Kane,</i>
  213. the greatest motion picture ever made.
  214.  
  215. 47
  216. 00:03:30,001 --> 00:03:31,801
  217. He made such a great movie and then...
  218.  
  219. 48
  220. 00:03:31,962 --> 00:03:33,797
  221. "Whatever happened to Orson Welles?"
  222.  
  223. 49
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  225. Every list of great films,
  226. many of them lead with <i>Citizen Kane</i>
  227.  
  228. 50
  229. 00:03:38,051 --> 00:03:40,721
  230. and say it's the finest film made.
  231.  
  232. 51
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  234. Um...
  235.  
  236. 52
  237. 00:03:42,097 --> 00:03:43,890
  238. - Do you agree?
  239. - No, certainly not.
  240.  
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  242. 00:03:44,474 --> 00:03:46,828
  243. - That's interesting.
  244. - My next one is though, that's the...
  245.  
  246. 54
  247. 00:03:46,852 --> 00:03:48,037
  248. <i>- The Magnificent Ambersons?</i>
  249. - No.
  250.  
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  253. - The one I'm preparing at this moment.
  254. - Oh, the next one.
  255.  
  256. 56
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  258. That's gonna make history.
  259.  
  260. 57
  261. 00:03:52,232 --> 00:03:55,277
  262. - Could you give us the title of that?
  263. - I haven't decided what it is yet.
  264.  
  265. 58
  266. 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:56,820
  267. Oh!
  268.  
  269. 59
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  271. It would become a last big effort
  272. in his lifetime.
  273.  
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  276. The chance to say,
  277. "This is my masterpiece."
  278.  
  279. 61
  280. 00:04:10,250 --> 00:04:13,587
  281. What will really be the big basic
  282. differences between this picture
  283.  
  284. 62
  285. 00:04:13,712 --> 00:04:15,255
  286. and anything else you've ever done?
  287.  
  288. 63
  289. 00:04:17,007 --> 00:04:19,843
  290. Because everything else I've ever done
  291. has been controlled,
  292.  
  293. 64
  294. 00:04:19,926 --> 00:04:21,803
  295. every frame is controlled.
  296.  
  297. 65
  298. 00:04:22,763 --> 00:04:26,433
  299. But I would like to take a whole story
  300. and make the picture
  301.  
  302. 66
  303. 00:04:26,767 --> 00:04:29,644
  304. as though it were a documentary.
  305. The actors are gonna be improvising.
  306.  
  307. 67
  308. 00:04:30,479 --> 00:04:32,559
  309. Have you done that kind of thing before
  310. with other...
  311.  
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  314. Nobody's ever done it before, you know.
  315.  
  316. 69
  317. 00:04:34,816 --> 00:04:36,985
  318. But that seems to me like
  319. shooting and shooting,
  320.  
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  323. and aren't you afraid the end result
  324. won't have any control?
  325.  
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  328. - I keep...
  329. - Not a bit, no, I really am not.
  330.  
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  333. I can't even count
  334. the number of times I heard Orson say...
  335.  
  336. 73
  337. 00:04:46,953 --> 00:04:49,790
  338. The greatest things in movies
  339. are divine accidents.
  340.  
  341. 74
  342. 00:04:49,873 --> 00:04:51,291
  343. "Embrace that accident."
  344.  
  345. 75
  346. 00:04:51,374 --> 00:04:53,919
  347. And my definition of a film director
  348.  
  349. 76
  350. 00:04:54,044 --> 00:04:57,714
  351. is "the man who presides over accidents."
  352.  
  353. 77
  354. 00:04:59,257 --> 00:05:00,857
  355. They're these divine accidents.
  356.  
  357. 78
  358. 00:05:00,926 --> 00:05:03,136
  359. It's the only thing that keeps films
  360. from being dead.
  361.  
  362. 79
  363. 00:05:03,428 --> 00:05:05,764
  364. Every time one would happen, boom!
  365.  
  366. 80
  367. 00:05:05,847 --> 00:05:07,474
  368. Genius would come out.
  369.  
  370. 81
  371. 00:05:09,017 --> 00:05:11,728
  372. Everywhere, there are beautiful accidents.
  373.  
  374. 82
  375. 00:05:11,812 --> 00:05:14,648
  376. There's a smell in the air, there's a look
  377.  
  378. 83
  379. 00:05:14,815 --> 00:05:18,109
  380. that changes the whole resonance
  381. of what you expected.
  382.  
  383. 84
  384. 00:05:18,193 --> 00:05:20,570
  385. Sometimes I've had those accidents.
  386.  
  387. 85
  388. 00:05:21,738 --> 00:05:25,534
  389. I made a picture in which somebody
  390. reached through a window in <i>Touch of Evil,</i>
  391.  
  392. 86
  393. 00:05:25,742 --> 00:05:27,869
  394. and found the egg...
  395.  
  396. 87
  397. 00:05:31,373 --> 00:05:33,333
  398. And we made a whole scene about it,
  399. you know.
  400.  
  401. 88
  402. 00:05:34,501 --> 00:05:35,877
  403. But I wanna go further.
  404.  
  405. 89
  406. 00:05:36,545 --> 00:05:39,145
  407. Then on the basis
  408. of what you've said, it sounds as though
  409.  
  410. 90
  411. 00:05:39,172 --> 00:05:41,812
  412. the whole thing is going to be a series
  413. of your "divine accidents."
  414.  
  415. 91
  416. 00:05:43,009 --> 00:05:45,428
  417. - If we're lucky.
  418. - If you're lucky.
  419.  
  420. 92
  421. 00:05:45,512 --> 00:05:48,390
  422. That's right. You know,
  423. we're going to go fishing for accidents.
  424.  
  425. 93
  426. 00:05:49,307 --> 00:05:51,518
  427. Which I think can be very exciting,
  428. you know?
  429.  
  430. 94
  431. 00:05:51,601 --> 00:05:52,644
  432. Yeah, yeah.
  433.  
  434. 95
  435. 00:05:56,064 --> 00:05:58,358
  436. Do you feel any kind of resentment
  437.  
  438. 96
  439. 00:05:58,441 --> 00:06:03,196
  440. for what Hollywood did to you,
  441. or failed to offer you?
  442.  
  443. 97
  444. 00:06:03,780 --> 00:06:06,241
  445. At the time,
  446. Orson had lost his ability
  447.  
  448. 98
  449. 00:06:06,324 --> 00:06:08,201
  450. to finance his own work in America.
  451.  
  452. 99
  453. 00:06:08,326 --> 00:06:11,037
  454. You are in some sense an exile,
  455. aren't you?
  456.  
  457. 100
  458. 00:06:11,121 --> 00:06:13,582
  459. - You've been out of America a long time.
  460. - Yes, yes.
  461.  
  462. 101
  463. 00:06:13,957 --> 00:06:16,459
  464. Orson had been in Europe for two decades.
  465.  
  466. 102
  467. 00:06:17,210 --> 00:06:21,089
  468. Because he felt very betrayed
  469. by Hollywood.
  470.  
  471. 103
  472. 00:06:22,382 --> 00:06:26,136
  473. I think he was permanently traumatized
  474. by <i>Touch of Evil.</i>
  475.  
  476. 104
  477. 00:06:28,513 --> 00:06:29,848
  478. The studio said,
  479.  
  480. 105
  481. 00:06:29,931 --> 00:06:32,851
  482. "God, Welles is functioning
  483. at such a level of brilliance.
  484.  
  485. 106
  486. 00:06:32,934 --> 00:06:34,644
  487. We're gonna make
  488. film after film with him."
  489.  
  490. 107
  491. 00:06:34,728 --> 00:06:36,146
  492. That's what you think.
  493.  
  494. 108
  495. 00:06:37,230 --> 00:06:38,982
  496. Then they saw a rough cut of it.
  497.  
  498. 109
  499. 00:06:39,274 --> 00:06:41,735
  500. They were so horrified that I was fired.
  501.  
  502. 110
  503. 00:06:44,446 --> 00:06:46,865
  504. And nobody's ever explained
  505. what horrified them.
  506.  
  507. 111
  508. 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,746
  509. After <i>Evil,</i> nobody would touch him.
  510.  
  511. 112
  512. 00:06:53,788 --> 00:06:55,040
  513. They really wouldn't.
  514.  
  515. 113
  516. 00:06:55,916 --> 00:06:58,251
  517. The popular press
  518. had forgotten about him.
  519.  
  520. 114
  521. 00:06:58,585 --> 00:07:01,671
  522. People weren't chasing Orson down
  523. to work with him.
  524.  
  525. 115
  526. 00:07:03,548 --> 00:07:07,677
  527. I think I have to make
  528. a very successful box office picture.
  529.  
  530. 116
  531. 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,348
  532. I think I'm getting too old
  533. not to have made one.
  534.  
  535. 117
  536. 00:07:13,475 --> 00:07:15,977
  537. - Orson needed a comeback film...
  538. - And?
  539.  
  540. 118
  541. 00:07:16,061 --> 00:07:18,146
  542. ...and it had to be strong.
  543.  
  544. 119
  545. 00:07:18,730 --> 00:07:21,483
  546. It's one thing to know what you want,
  547. it's another thing
  548.  
  549. 120
  550. 00:07:21,942 --> 00:07:24,319
  551. to know how to go through the door
  552. when it opens.
  553.  
  554. 121
  555. 00:07:33,995 --> 00:07:37,666
  556. Hollywood was changing
  557. in the '70s, changing huge.
  558.  
  559. 122
  560. 00:07:39,042 --> 00:07:41,920
  561. The new Hollywood began around '66.
  562.  
  563. 123
  564. 00:07:42,337 --> 00:07:44,881
  565. <i>Bonnie and Clyde,
  566. Five Easy Pieces.</i>
  567.  
  568. 124
  569. 00:07:44,965 --> 00:07:46,132
  570. <i>Easy Rider.</i>
  571.  
  572. 125
  573. 00:07:46,216 --> 00:07:48,468
  574. The kids with beards were taking over.
  575.  
  576. 126
  577. 00:07:48,551 --> 00:07:52,138
  578. We are children playing games,
  579. when we create.
  580.  
  581. 127
  582. 00:07:52,222 --> 00:07:55,725
  583. Which is what movies are to me,
  584. and what drama is to me, it's a game.
  585.  
  586. 128
  587. 00:07:56,267 --> 00:08:00,021
  588. Thirty-five-year-old men
  589. had taken over show business.
  590.  
  591. 129
  592. 00:08:00,105 --> 00:08:02,315
  593. The studios didn't know anymore
  594. what was making money.
  595.  
  596. 130
  597. 00:08:02,399 --> 00:08:03,858
  598. The studios were collapsing.
  599.  
  600. 131
  601. 00:08:03,942 --> 00:08:06,778
  602. When Warner Brothers stopped
  603. making cartoons, it was over.
  604.  
  605. 132
  606. 00:08:08,697 --> 00:08:10,031
  607. In the new Hollywood,
  608.  
  609. 133
  610. 00:08:10,115 --> 00:08:13,118
  611. everybody had this incredible reverence
  612. for Orson Welles.
  613.  
  614. 134
  615. 00:08:14,744 --> 00:08:18,415
  616. He was somewhere between
  617. Zen master and God.
  618.  
  619. 135
  620. 00:08:20,333 --> 00:08:23,213
  621. I mean, sure, <i>Citizen Kane</i>
  622. was maybe the greatest film ever made,
  623.  
  624. 136
  625. 00:08:23,294 --> 00:08:25,171
  626. but I'm not even sure it's his best film.
  627.  
  628. 137
  629. 00:08:26,464 --> 00:08:28,609
  630. - <i>Lady From Shanghai.</i>
  631. - The mirror sequence.
  632.  
  633. 138
  634. 00:08:28,633 --> 00:08:30,468
  635. - Oh, wow!
  636. - Wow!
  637.  
  638. 139
  639. 00:08:31,928 --> 00:08:34,180
  640. How could you even think to do that?
  641.  
  642. 140
  643. 00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:41,938
  644. He was a prototypical
  645. independent filmmaker.
  646.  
  647. 141
  648. 00:08:43,732 --> 00:08:44,816
  649. Oh, my God, yes.
  650.  
  651. 142
  652. 00:08:44,899 --> 00:08:47,944
  653. <i>Chimes</i> is the most perfect film ever made.
  654.  
  655. 143
  656. 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,240
  657. The chance to make my films
  658. in America's...
  659.  
  660. 144
  661. 00:08:52,323 --> 00:08:55,785
  662. has been very hard,
  663. but I think it's getting easier.
  664.  
  665. 145
  666. 00:08:56,536 --> 00:08:58,538
  667. Pictures are becoming more adventurous.
  668.  
  669. 146
  670. 00:08:58,663 --> 00:09:03,668
  671. The opportunities ahead of me are greater,
  672. much than they were five years ago.
  673.  
  674. 147
  675. 00:09:04,669 --> 00:09:08,965
  676. Orson wanted in because he wanted
  677. to do a film about Hollywood.
  678.  
  679. 148
  680. 00:09:09,883 --> 00:09:13,219
  681. <i>It was the siren's call
  682. that drew Orson back to Hollywood.</i>
  683.  
  684. 149
  685. 00:09:13,553 --> 00:09:16,598
  686. <i>And this is where the story really begins.</i>
  687.  
  688. 150
  689. 00:09:17,140 --> 00:09:21,895
  690. <i>In a bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel
  691. on the 4th of July, 1970.</i>
  692.  
  693. 151
  694. 00:09:24,606 --> 00:09:27,150
  695. One day in 1970, near the 4th of July,
  696.  
  697. 152
  698. 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,486
  699. I was at Schwab's Drugstore in Hollywood.
  700.  
  701. 153
  702. 00:09:29,611 --> 00:09:32,197
  703. <i>This is cameraman Gary Graver.</i>
  704.  
  705. 154
  706. 00:09:32,864 --> 00:09:37,577
  707. <i>He shot everything Orson directed
  708. for the last 15 years of his life.</i>
  709.  
  710. 155
  711. 00:09:38,495 --> 00:09:40,747
  712. Tell us how you met Orson Welles.
  713.  
  714. 156
  715. 00:09:41,289 --> 00:09:44,793
  716. I read in <i>Variety</i> that Orson
  717. Welles was at the Beverly Hills Hotel.
  718.  
  719. 157
  720. 00:09:45,418 --> 00:09:48,088
  721. I went back to the phone booth,
  722. called him up...
  723.  
  724. 158
  725. 00:09:50,006 --> 00:09:52,634
  726. ...and to my surprise,
  727. he answered the phone.
  728.  
  729. 159
  730. 00:09:52,717 --> 00:09:56,513
  731. - "Hello?" I said, "Oh, Orson Welles?"
  732. - Hello?
  733.  
  734. 160
  735. 00:09:56,596 --> 00:09:59,099
  736. I said, "I'm Gary Graver,
  737. I'm an American cameraman."
  738.  
  739. 161
  740. 00:09:59,182 --> 00:10:01,368
  741. - Come and talk to me.
  742. - "I've got to talk to you."
  743.  
  744. 162
  745. 00:10:01,392 --> 00:10:03,103
  746. I want to talk to you now!
  747.  
  748. 163
  749. 00:10:03,186 --> 00:10:05,626
  750. And he said, "Get over
  751. to the Beverly Hills Hotel right away."
  752.  
  753. 164
  754. 00:10:06,564 --> 00:10:07,398
  755. Wow!
  756.  
  757. 165
  758. 00:10:07,482 --> 00:10:11,486
  759. I raced over to the Beverly Hills Hotel,
  760. knocked on the door, and there was Orson.
  761.  
  762. 166
  763. 00:10:12,570 --> 00:10:15,615
  764. - I said, "I'd like to work with you."
  765. - Why?
  766.  
  767. 167
  768. 00:10:15,740 --> 00:10:19,202
  769. Orson said, "We'll make some tests,
  770. and if I like what you do,
  771.  
  772. 168
  773. 00:10:19,285 --> 00:10:20,662
  774. we'll start a script."
  775.  
  776. 169
  777. 00:10:20,954 --> 00:10:22,789
  778. And I was very nervous about it.
  779.  
  780. 170
  781. 00:10:22,872 --> 00:10:26,126
  782. Cut. Go back again. Stop it!
  783. Gary, you must listen to me.
  784.  
  785. 171
  786. 00:10:27,127 --> 00:10:30,797
  787. The tests, as you see here,
  788. are shots of Orson
  789.  
  790. 172
  791. 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,509
  792. sitting in the Beverly Hills Hotel
  793. bungalow that he rented,
  794.  
  795. 173
  796. 00:10:34,801 --> 00:10:36,136
  797. and I was shooting him.
  798.  
  799. 174
  800. 00:10:36,469 --> 00:10:39,264
  801. He said, "You're the second cameraman
  802. that's called me up.
  803.  
  804. 175
  805. 00:10:40,265 --> 00:10:42,767
  806. The first one was Gregg Toland
  807. on <i>Citizen Kane."</i>
  808.  
  809. 176
  810. 00:10:43,184 --> 00:10:44,352
  811. He says, "Now you.
  812.  
  813. 177
  814. 00:10:45,186 --> 00:10:46,563
  815. So, it must mean good luck.
  816.  
  817. 178
  818. 00:10:47,522 --> 00:10:49,232
  819. I would like to work with you."
  820.  
  821. 179
  822. 00:10:50,275 --> 00:10:52,569
  823. And we began to make a movie called:
  824.  
  825. 180
  826. 00:10:52,652 --> 00:10:54,612
  827. <i>The Other Side of the Wind.</i>
  828.  
  829. 181
  830. 00:10:58,074 --> 00:11:00,034
  831. <i>The Other Side of the Wind. </i>What is that?
  832.  
  833. 182
  834. 00:11:00,994 --> 00:11:04,622
  835. You could drive yourself nuts
  836. trying to get an answer to that one.
  837.  
  838. 183
  839. 00:11:06,291 --> 00:11:10,461
  840. <i>The conceit of this movie
  841. is that it is actually two movies in one.</i>
  842.  
  843. 184
  844. 00:11:11,504 --> 00:11:15,341
  845. <i>The Other Side of the Wind</i>
  846. is divided into two sections.
  847.  
  848. 185
  849. 00:11:15,842 --> 00:11:19,470
  850. There is the film which is made
  851. by documentary cameramen,
  852.  
  853. 186
  854. 00:11:20,013 --> 00:11:24,017
  855. which is the story of the last day
  856. of the director's life.
  857.  
  858. 187
  859. 00:11:25,894 --> 00:11:29,063
  860. And there is the film
  861. which is made by the director,
  862.  
  863. 188
  864. 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,317
  865. which has just broken down
  866. for lack of funds.
  867.  
  868. 189
  869. 00:11:33,526 --> 00:11:37,363
  870. And these two stories
  871. almost simultaneously move together.
  872.  
  873. 190
  874. 00:11:39,115 --> 00:11:42,994
  875. So, what is this film about?
  876.  
  877. 191
  878. 00:11:43,119 --> 00:11:49,083
  879. - It's the story of an old director.
  880. - Yeah?
  881.  
  882. 192
  883. 00:11:49,167 --> 00:11:54,881
  884. A generation even older than me.
  885. It's difficult to imagine that.
  886.  
  887. 193
  888. 00:11:56,883 --> 00:12:00,303
  889. <i>The Other Side of the Wind</i>
  890. is a movie about an aging film director.
  891.  
  892. 194
  893. 00:12:00,386 --> 00:12:03,890
  894. The darling of Hollywood
  895. who fell out of favor.
  896.  
  897. 195
  898. 00:12:03,973 --> 00:12:05,892
  899. The great American film artist...
  900.  
  901. 196
  902. 00:12:05,975 --> 00:12:07,953
  903. That gets rejected in Hollywood,
  904. goes to Europe...
  905.  
  906. 197
  907. 00:12:07,977 --> 00:12:09,646
  908. And comes back to Hollywood.
  909.  
  910. 198
  911. 00:12:09,729 --> 00:12:12,065
  912. It was a thinly-veiled version of himself.
  913.  
  914. 199
  915. 00:12:12,148 --> 00:12:15,860
  916. Okay. Would that make him
  917. an autobiographical character for you?
  918.  
  919. 200
  920. 00:12:15,944 --> 00:12:19,239
  921. No. Everybody will think
  922. it's autobiographical, but it's not.
  923.  
  924. 201
  925. 00:12:19,739 --> 00:12:21,032
  926. Yeah. Bullshit.
  927.  
  928. 202
  929. 00:12:21,616 --> 00:12:24,176
  930. - Of course it is.
  931. - It must be autobiographical.
  932.  
  933. 203
  934. 00:12:24,202 --> 00:12:25,429
  935. A hundred percent Orson.
  936.  
  937. 204
  938. 00:12:25,453 --> 00:12:28,623
  939. No doubt it's an autobiographical movie.
  940.  
  941. 205
  942. 00:12:29,457 --> 00:12:30,667
  943. He hated that.
  944.  
  945. 206
  946. 00:12:31,084 --> 00:12:34,295
  947. He didn't want to be analyzed
  948. through his films.
  949.  
  950. 207
  951. 00:12:36,673 --> 00:12:38,049
  952. Ten-hut!
  953.  
  954. 208
  955. 00:12:39,008 --> 00:12:41,427
  956. Actually,
  957. <i>The Other Side of the Wind</i> started
  958.  
  959. 209
  960. 00:12:41,511 --> 00:12:43,638
  961. because of a conversation I had
  962. with Orson.
  963.  
  964. 210
  965. 00:12:43,721 --> 00:12:44,931
  966. Who is this man?
  967.  
  968. 211
  969. 00:12:45,431 --> 00:12:48,643
  970. Peter Bogdanovich started
  971. as a film historian.
  972.  
  973. 212
  974. 00:12:48,726 --> 00:12:50,603
  975. And Orson, he was my hero.
  976.  
  977. 213
  978. 00:12:51,104 --> 00:12:54,399
  979. He said, "Isn't it a pity you can't do
  980. a nice little book about me?"
  981.  
  982. 214
  983. 00:12:55,191 --> 00:12:57,402
  984. I said, "I'd be happy to do
  985. an interview book with you."
  986.  
  987. 215
  988. 00:12:57,485 --> 00:12:58,685
  989. He said, "Fine, let's do it."
  990.  
  991. 216
  992. 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,280
  993. And he said...
  994.  
  995. 217
  996. 00:13:01,406 --> 00:13:03,908
  997. You know why I was sleepless last night?
  998.  
  999. 218
  1000. 00:13:03,992 --> 00:13:04,826
  1001. Why?
  1002.  
  1003. 219
  1004. 00:13:04,909 --> 00:13:07,954
  1005. I've got a story that
  1006. I've worked on for many years.
  1007.  
  1008. 220
  1009. 00:13:08,079 --> 00:13:11,124
  1010. I said, "What's that?"
  1011. "Well, it's about an older film director
  1012.  
  1013. 221
  1014. 00:13:11,207 --> 00:13:14,252
  1015. and a young film director,
  1016. and the betrayal
  1017.  
  1018. 222
  1019. 00:13:14,752 --> 00:13:16,170
  1020. of their friendship."
  1021.  
  1022. 223
  1023. 00:13:17,297 --> 00:13:18,381
  1024. Not that it matters.
  1025.  
  1026. 224
  1027. 00:13:18,715 --> 00:13:22,760
  1028. I am crazy enough to do that
  1029. in preference to anything else.
  1030.  
  1031. 225
  1032. 00:13:23,303 --> 00:13:25,823
  1033. - Oughta make it right away.
  1034. - Right away.
  1035.  
  1036. 226
  1037. 00:13:25,847 --> 00:13:27,265
  1038. "I must make it now."
  1039.  
  1040. 227
  1041. 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:32,228
  1042. Cut.
  1043.  
  1044. 228
  1045. 00:13:37,775 --> 00:13:41,446
  1046. He calls me up and he says,
  1047. "What are you doing Thursday?"
  1048.  
  1049. 229
  1050. 00:13:41,988 --> 00:13:45,033
  1051. And I said, "I'm going to Texas
  1052. to start my first film."
  1053.  
  1054. 230
  1055. 00:13:51,247 --> 00:13:53,041
  1056. But this was before all that.
  1057.  
  1058. 231
  1059. 00:13:53,958 --> 00:13:56,377
  1060. Orson said, "What time is your plane?"
  1061.  
  1062. 232
  1063. 00:13:56,586 --> 00:13:58,046
  1064. I said, "Three o'clock."
  1065.  
  1066. 233
  1067. 00:13:58,129 --> 00:14:02,592
  1068. He said, "Can you meet me at noon
  1069. where the planes fly low over the street?"
  1070.  
  1071. 234
  1072. 00:14:02,842 --> 00:14:04,635
  1073. I said, "Yeah, okay. What are we doing?"
  1074.  
  1075. 235
  1076. 00:14:04,761 --> 00:14:07,201
  1077. "I'll tell you about it when I see you.
  1078. Just meet me at noon."
  1079.  
  1080. 236
  1081. 00:14:09,307 --> 00:14:11,410
  1082. - Take one, second...
  1083. - Let me announce it.
  1084.  
  1085. 237
  1086. 00:14:11,434 --> 00:14:13,770
  1087. Bus Studio, Scene 55, Take one!
  1088.  
  1089. 238
  1090. 00:14:14,896 --> 00:14:16,105
  1091. The mic all right?
  1092.  
  1093. 239
  1094. 00:14:16,189 --> 00:14:19,275
  1095. At first, he had me playing a cineaste,
  1096.  
  1097. 240
  1098. 00:14:19,567 --> 00:14:21,167
  1099. you know, a guy who writes about movies.
  1100.  
  1101. 241
  1102. 00:14:22,570 --> 00:14:24,530
  1103. Mr. Hannaford? Uh, Mr. Hannaford.
  1104.  
  1105. 242
  1106. 00:14:24,614 --> 00:14:27,742
  1107. Jake Hannaford's
  1108. the leading character, an old director.
  1109.  
  1110. 243
  1111. 00:14:28,242 --> 00:14:31,079
  1112. Mr. Hannaford, uh,
  1113. in the body of your film work,
  1114.  
  1115. 244
  1116. 00:14:31,245 --> 00:14:35,083
  1117. how significantly would you relate
  1118. the trauma of your father's suicide?
  1119.  
  1120. 245
  1121. 00:14:35,458 --> 00:14:38,544
  1122. Orson had me do it
  1123. like Jerry Lewis. And it was like,
  1124.  
  1125. 246
  1126. 00:14:38,795 --> 00:14:41,798
  1127. "Mr. Hannaford, do you think
  1128. that the cinema is like a phallus?"
  1129.  
  1130. 247
  1131. 00:14:42,673 --> 00:14:44,509
  1132. Orson thought that was hilarious.
  1133.  
  1134. 248
  1135. 00:14:45,385 --> 00:14:49,639
  1136. I did some stuff like Jerry
  1137. and broke myself up.
  1138.  
  1139. 249
  1140. 00:14:49,722 --> 00:14:50,890
  1141. He said, "Don't laugh!"
  1142.  
  1143. 250
  1144. 00:14:51,474 --> 00:14:52,975
  1145. He wanted a free train.
  1146.  
  1147. 251
  1148. 00:14:53,976 --> 00:14:55,728
  1149. All right, come back! Come back!
  1150.  
  1151. 252
  1152. 00:14:55,812 --> 00:14:57,105
  1153. Sun got in the lens.
  1154.  
  1155. 253
  1156. 00:14:59,232 --> 00:15:00,232
  1157. Mr. Hannaford!
  1158.  
  1159. 254
  1160. 00:15:00,650 --> 00:15:01,650
  1161. Mr. Hannaford?
  1162.  
  1163. 255
  1164. 00:15:05,738 --> 00:15:07,156
  1165. It's a crazy picture.
  1166.  
  1167. 256
  1168. 00:15:07,323 --> 00:15:09,867
  1169. It's not a work of fiction,
  1170. it's a little of everything.
  1171.  
  1172. 257
  1173. 00:15:10,243 --> 00:15:12,578
  1174. You either hate it or loathe it,
  1175. like most people.
  1176.  
  1177. 258
  1178. 00:15:14,205 --> 00:15:16,416
  1179. It's kind of a departure in moviemaking.
  1180.  
  1181. 259
  1182. 00:15:19,836 --> 00:15:22,547
  1183. <i>The Other Side of the Wind</i>
  1184. is structured around a party
  1185.  
  1186. 260
  1187. 00:15:22,630 --> 00:15:24,924
  1188. being thrown for the director,
  1189. Jake Hannaford.
  1190.  
  1191. 261
  1192. 00:15:25,508 --> 00:15:27,552
  1193. This gives him a chance to assert
  1194. his relevance
  1195.  
  1196. 262
  1197. 00:15:27,635 --> 00:15:31,264
  1198. amongst the biggest names
  1199. of the new Hollywood movement.
  1200.  
  1201. 263
  1202. 00:15:32,014 --> 00:15:34,725
  1203. Orson began shooting fragments
  1204. of this scene,
  1205.  
  1206. 264
  1207. 00:15:34,809 --> 00:15:38,980
  1208. and would continue to do so
  1209. for the next five years.
  1210.  
  1211. 265
  1212. 00:15:41,607 --> 00:15:43,484
  1213. Chabrol, take one!
  1214.  
  1215. 266
  1216. 00:15:45,069 --> 00:15:48,739
  1217. During the party scenes,
  1218. Orson wanted to have actual filmmakers...
  1219.  
  1220. 267
  1221. 00:15:49,198 --> 00:15:50,198
  1222. Thanks.
  1223.  
  1224. 268
  1225. 00:15:50,283 --> 00:15:51,993
  1226. ...on camera.
  1227.  
  1228. 269
  1229. 00:15:52,201 --> 00:15:54,287
  1230. - But then...
  1231. - For Henry and Paul!
  1232.  
  1233. 270
  1234. 00:15:55,079 --> 00:15:57,623
  1235. Roll five, take one.
  1236.  
  1237. 271
  1238. 00:15:57,832 --> 00:16:00,334
  1239. He wanted a fight of two young directors.
  1240.  
  1241. 272
  1242. 00:16:00,418 --> 00:16:03,713
  1243. - Don't condescend... Don't patronize me.
  1244. - Let me finish. Well, let me finish.
  1245.  
  1246. 273
  1247. 00:16:03,796 --> 00:16:05,524
  1248. - If you're really an honest man...
  1249. - Can I talk to him?
  1250.  
  1251. 274
  1252. 00:16:05,548 --> 00:16:07,985
  1253. - Yeah, but if you're an honest man...
  1254. - May I speak with him or not?
  1255.  
  1256. 275
  1257. 00:16:08,009 --> 00:16:10,011
  1258. Uh, Dennis Hopper showed up.
  1259.  
  1260. 276
  1261. 00:16:10,178 --> 00:16:14,891
  1262. Dennis Hopper, filmmaker,
  1263. extraordinary leading actor.
  1264.  
  1265. 277
  1266. 00:16:15,016 --> 00:16:17,351
  1267. He got incredibly stoned...
  1268.  
  1269. 278
  1270. 00:16:17,435 --> 00:16:19,353
  1271. ...and was debating Jake Hannaford.
  1272.  
  1273. 279
  1274. 00:16:19,812 --> 00:16:22,356
  1275. - Jake, everybody knows about you.
  1276. - Yeah, I know.
  1277.  
  1278. 280
  1279. 00:16:23,065 --> 00:16:26,068
  1280. <i>With the lead role
  1281. of Jake Hannaford not yet cast,</i>
  1282.  
  1283. 281
  1284. 00:16:26,486 --> 00:16:29,363
  1285. <i>Welles played the role of the director
  1286. off camera.</i>
  1287.  
  1288. 282
  1289. 00:16:30,406 --> 00:16:32,783
  1290. Do you believe movies are also magic?
  1291.  
  1292. 283
  1293. 00:16:32,950 --> 00:16:34,660
  1294. Right.
  1295.  
  1296. 284
  1297. 00:16:34,744 --> 00:16:37,622
  1298. When Elvis Presley was 21,
  1299. he came to me and said...
  1300.  
  1301. 285
  1302. 00:16:38,164 --> 00:16:41,167
  1303. he's gotta do this fight scene.
  1304. He says, "I've never hit a woman before.
  1305.  
  1306. 286
  1307. 00:16:41,250 --> 00:16:42,960
  1308. Gotta hit Debra Paget."
  1309.  
  1310. 287
  1311. 00:16:43,753 --> 00:16:46,339
  1312. And I said, "But you don't
  1313. really hit people in movies."
  1314.  
  1315. 288
  1316. 00:16:46,422 --> 00:16:49,926
  1317. He says, "I suppose you're gonna say they
  1318. don't really shoot real bullets at people.
  1319.  
  1320. 289
  1321. 00:16:50,009 --> 00:16:51,886
  1322. I've seen the wood splinter off the wall."
  1323.  
  1324. 290
  1325. 00:16:51,969 --> 00:16:53,221
  1326. - He said that?
  1327. - Yeah.
  1328.  
  1329. 291
  1330. 00:16:53,888 --> 00:16:56,432
  1331. Yeah, but aren't you
  1332. confusing reality with magic?
  1333.  
  1334. 292
  1335. 00:16:56,516 --> 00:17:00,603
  1336. In other words, I believe
  1337. people will believe anything in movies.
  1338.  
  1339. 293
  1340. 00:17:02,522 --> 00:17:06,108
  1341. Reality is always poor,
  1342. weak stuff compared to magic.
  1343.  
  1344. 294
  1345. 00:17:09,070 --> 00:17:10,988
  1346. Orson was a big believer in magic.
  1347.  
  1348. 295
  1349. 00:17:11,155 --> 00:17:15,535
  1350. The idea that maybe...
  1351. maybe what you see isn't real.
  1352.  
  1353. 296
  1354. 00:17:16,452 --> 00:17:20,456
  1355. You may have wondered
  1356. why I look so peculiar on the television.
  1357.  
  1358. 297
  1359. 00:17:21,332 --> 00:17:23,793
  1360. And it's partly, I must confess to you,
  1361.  
  1362. 298
  1363. 00:17:24,877 --> 00:17:27,129
  1364. the fact that you see my nose as it is.
  1365.  
  1366. 299
  1367. 00:17:30,591 --> 00:17:32,468
  1368. He's really a very handsome man.
  1369.  
  1370. 300
  1371. 00:17:32,552 --> 00:17:35,471
  1372. He always hides it with different noses.
  1373. He doesn't like it,
  1374.  
  1375. 301
  1376. 00:17:35,555 --> 00:17:38,140
  1377. he thinks it's too weak-looking
  1378. or something. I love his nose.
  1379.  
  1380. 302
  1381. 00:17:38,599 --> 00:17:40,309
  1382. He changes noses? Oh.
  1383.  
  1384. 303
  1385. 00:17:41,811 --> 00:17:44,939
  1386. In most of the films that I appear in,
  1387. I put on a false nose,
  1388.  
  1389. 304
  1390. 00:17:45,606 --> 00:17:47,608
  1391. usually as large as I can find.
  1392.  
  1393. 305
  1394. 00:17:49,694 --> 00:17:52,196
  1395. He said, "All my life,
  1396. I've hidden behind masks."
  1397.  
  1398. 306
  1399. 00:17:52,613 --> 00:17:56,117
  1400. And he had created a wall
  1401. with these masks,
  1402.  
  1403. 307
  1404. 00:17:57,076 --> 00:17:58,869
  1405. hiding the real Orson.
  1406.  
  1407. 308
  1408. 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,255
  1409. <i>The Other Side of the Wind</i>
  1410. is entirely masked.
  1411.  
  1412. 309
  1413. 00:18:10,172 --> 00:18:11,340
  1414. In other words,
  1415.  
  1416. 310
  1417. 00:18:12,091 --> 00:18:14,802
  1418. the party shot by a documentary crew
  1419.  
  1420. 311
  1421. 00:18:14,885 --> 00:18:18,055
  1422. is in a style that wouldn't have been
  1423. my style as a movie director.
  1424.  
  1425. 312
  1426. 00:18:18,347 --> 00:18:22,268
  1427. And the movie within a movie
  1428. is an impersonation by me
  1429.  
  1430. 313
  1431. 00:18:22,727 --> 00:18:26,689
  1432. of my director character
  1433. trying to make an art movie.
  1434.  
  1435. 314
  1436. 00:18:27,607 --> 00:18:29,066
  1437. It's not my film.
  1438.  
  1439. 315
  1440. 00:18:29,150 --> 00:18:31,152
  1441. - It's a film by the character.
  1442. - Yes!
  1443.  
  1444. 316
  1445. 00:18:31,861 --> 00:18:34,405
  1446. You will see the movie within a movie
  1447.  
  1448. 317
  1449. 00:18:34,488 --> 00:18:36,699
  1450. is not a movie I would ever have made.
  1451.  
  1452. 318
  1453. 00:18:37,783 --> 00:18:38,826
  1454. There was no plot.
  1455.  
  1456. 319
  1457. 00:18:39,118 --> 00:18:42,788
  1458. Essentially it was about my character
  1459. chasing a girl,
  1460.  
  1461. 320
  1462. 00:18:43,039 --> 00:18:44,957
  1463. chasing her around or something.
  1464.  
  1465. 321
  1466. 00:18:45,124 --> 00:18:47,001
  1467. A little game of "catch me if you can."
  1468.  
  1469. 322
  1470. 00:18:47,084 --> 00:18:49,920
  1471. It was pretty clear
  1472. the film that Hannaford's making
  1473.  
  1474. 323
  1475. 00:18:50,588 --> 00:18:55,384
  1476. is Orson's attempt to satirize
  1477. European atmospheric cinema.
  1478.  
  1479. 324
  1480. 00:18:55,593 --> 00:18:57,511
  1481. Which was popular back in the '60s.
  1482.  
  1483. 325
  1484. 00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:03,517
  1485. And it was very amusing to make,
  1486.  
  1487. 326
  1488. 00:19:03,601 --> 00:19:06,062
  1489. because I had the freedom, the joy,
  1490.  
  1491. 327
  1492. 00:19:06,479 --> 00:19:10,358
  1493. to make a film that is not a film
  1494. by Orson Welles.
  1495.  
  1496. 328
  1497. 00:19:11,776 --> 00:19:12,610
  1498. Yes.
  1499.  
  1500. 329
  1501. 00:19:12,693 --> 00:19:15,488
  1502. Because it's a film made with a mask.
  1503.  
  1504. 330
  1505. 00:19:17,490 --> 00:19:19,033
  1506. With this film,
  1507.  
  1508. 331
  1509. 00:19:19,408 --> 00:19:22,203
  1510. Mr. Welles is a professional
  1511. who's become an amateur.
  1512.  
  1513. 332
  1514. 00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:24,205
  1515. And it worked.
  1516.  
  1517. 333
  1518. 00:19:25,414 --> 00:19:28,417
  1519. Pretty much everything
  1520. he was doing was to save money.
  1521.  
  1522. 334
  1523. 00:19:29,377 --> 00:19:31,879
  1524. Because Orson paid for the shoot himself.
  1525.  
  1526. 335
  1527. 00:19:33,589 --> 00:19:36,384
  1528. Gary Graver provided him with
  1529. a small, proper crew.
  1530.  
  1531. 336
  1532. 00:19:36,467 --> 00:19:38,010
  1533. Oh, boy!
  1534.  
  1535. 337
  1536. 00:19:40,262 --> 00:19:44,767
  1537. By the way, Frank Marshall,
  1538. producer of <i>Indiana Jones,</i>
  1539.  
  1540. 338
  1541. 00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:47,645
  1542. - wasn't he part of the crew?
  1543. - Yeah.
  1544.  
  1545. 339
  1546. 00:19:48,062 --> 00:19:51,732
  1547. It was before I understood
  1548. what a producer did.
  1549.  
  1550. 340
  1551. 00:19:52,566 --> 00:19:55,444
  1552. There's a glorious sense
  1553. of freedom and innocence
  1554.  
  1555. 341
  1556. 00:19:55,528 --> 00:19:58,614
  1557. that Welles was always yearning for.
  1558.  
  1559. 342
  1560. 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,284
  1561. Because they were making things up
  1562. as they went along.
  1563.  
  1564. 343
  1565. 00:20:04,203 --> 00:20:06,956
  1566. We have an entire crew
  1567. who would let him do anything.
  1568.  
  1569. 344
  1570. 00:20:07,456 --> 00:20:10,000
  1571. The only one who didn't give him any flak
  1572. was Oja.
  1573.  
  1574. 345
  1575. 00:20:10,543 --> 00:20:11,544
  1576. Her name...
  1577.  
  1578. 346
  1579. 00:20:13,003 --> 00:20:15,256
  1580. is Oja. Oja Kodar.
  1581.  
  1582. 347
  1583. 00:20:17,299 --> 00:20:19,593
  1584. <i>The star and the co-writer</i>
  1585.  
  1586. 348
  1587. 00:20:19,677 --> 00:20:24,473
  1588. <i>of the movie within the movie was
  1589. a young Croatian artist, Oja Kodar.</i>
  1590.  
  1591. 349
  1592. 00:20:25,433 --> 00:20:27,309
  1593. <i>She was also Orson's lover.</i>
  1594.  
  1595. 350
  1596. 00:20:28,602 --> 00:20:31,856
  1597. Orson just loved Oja,
  1598. it was the love of his life.
  1599.  
  1600. 351
  1601. 00:20:32,606 --> 00:20:35,901
  1602. And he considered her
  1603. an artistic collaborator.
  1604.  
  1605. 352
  1606. 00:20:37,236 --> 00:20:39,905
  1607. When we first met...
  1608.  
  1609. 353
  1610. 00:20:40,531 --> 00:20:41,531
  1611. um...
  1612.  
  1613. 354
  1614. 00:20:43,409 --> 00:20:44,785
  1615. I was very young...
  1616.  
  1617. 355
  1618. 00:20:45,494 --> 00:20:47,621
  1619. <i>To me, he looked somehow menacing.</i>
  1620.  
  1621. 356
  1622. 00:20:49,248 --> 00:20:50,875
  1623. With his cape...
  1624.  
  1625. 357
  1626. 00:20:51,333 --> 00:20:54,086
  1627. he was a personification
  1628. of the wind itself.
  1629.  
  1630. 358
  1631. 00:20:55,296 --> 00:20:57,548
  1632. But I knew the other side of this wind.
  1633.  
  1634. 359
  1635. 00:20:58,382 --> 00:21:02,344
  1636. Because Orson was the wind
  1637. that was capable of caressing you,
  1638.  
  1639. 360
  1640. 00:21:02,428 --> 00:21:05,556
  1641. lifting you, making you dance.
  1642.  
  1643. 361
  1644. 00:21:05,765 --> 00:21:07,183
  1645. Time for a confession.
  1646.  
  1647. 362
  1648. 00:21:07,558 --> 00:21:11,228
  1649. - Um... he was also married.
  1650. - Good night, Oja.
  1651.  
  1652. 363
  1653. 00:21:11,479 --> 00:21:13,481
  1654. Olga... I call her Olga.
  1655.  
  1656. 364
  1657. 00:21:13,606 --> 00:21:15,232
  1658. That's her real name, you know?
  1659.  
  1660. 365
  1661. 00:21:15,524 --> 00:21:19,612
  1662. My father was fascinated
  1663. by this double life.
  1664.  
  1665. 366
  1666. 00:21:20,738 --> 00:21:23,199
  1667. It became intriguing
  1668. and it was not boring,
  1669.  
  1670. 367
  1671. 00:21:23,699 --> 00:21:25,826
  1672. this unbelievable double life.
  1673.  
  1674. 368
  1675. 00:21:27,453 --> 00:21:29,705
  1676. Why my mother stayed married,
  1677. I'll never know.
  1678.  
  1679. 369
  1680. 00:21:30,539 --> 00:21:33,042
  1681. But... that's her choice.
  1682.  
  1683. 370
  1684. 00:21:35,294 --> 00:21:38,172
  1685. We'll leave Miss Kodar aside,
  1686. for the moment.
  1687.  
  1688. 371
  1689. 00:21:41,801 --> 00:21:44,970
  1690. Orson had been shooting
  1691. this material for years
  1692.  
  1693. 372
  1694. 00:21:45,095 --> 00:21:48,182
  1695. with his own money, in the hopes
  1696. that he could raise more money
  1697.  
  1698. 373
  1699. 00:21:48,265 --> 00:21:50,392
  1700. to finish when people saw
  1701. what he was shooting.
  1702.  
  1703. 374
  1704. 00:21:50,643 --> 00:21:55,356
  1705. But I don't think he tried to get funding
  1706. from the studios at first.
  1707.  
  1708. 375
  1709. 00:21:57,775 --> 00:22:02,071
  1710. <i>In fact, Orson was sneaking
  1711. into abandoned studio backlots</i>
  1712.  
  1713. 376
  1714. 00:22:02,154 --> 00:22:05,157
  1715. <i>under assumed names
  1716. and filming an elaborate critique</i>
  1717.  
  1718. 377
  1719. 00:22:05,574 --> 00:22:06,867
  1720. <i>of Hollywood itself.</i>
  1721.  
  1722. 378
  1723. 00:22:08,786 --> 00:22:09,954
  1724. <i>Was it vengeance?</i>
  1725.  
  1726. 379
  1727. 00:22:12,206 --> 00:22:15,209
  1728. <i>The Magnificent Ambersons</i>
  1729. was the beginning
  1730.  
  1731. 380
  1732. 00:22:15,292 --> 00:22:19,672
  1733. of what we can call...
  1734. the period of betrayal.
  1735.  
  1736. 381
  1737. 00:22:20,214 --> 00:22:24,134
  1738. My father was betrayed by a lot of people.
  1739.  
  1740. 382
  1741. 00:22:24,885 --> 00:22:27,555
  1742. Did he bring that on himself? Who knows?
  1743.  
  1744. 383
  1745. 00:22:28,681 --> 00:22:29,681
  1746. Maybe.
  1747.  
  1748. 384
  1749. 00:22:31,684 --> 00:22:34,103
  1750. Whilst editing <i>The Magnificent Ambersons,</i>
  1751.  
  1752. 385
  1753. 00:22:34,186 --> 00:22:37,147
  1754. Orson was practically ordered
  1755. by the US government
  1756.  
  1757. 386
  1758. 00:22:37,231 --> 00:22:39,984
  1759. to go to Brazil to make a documentary.
  1760.  
  1761. 387
  1762. 00:22:40,484 --> 00:22:42,278
  1763. And so I arranged to film
  1764.  
  1765. 388
  1766. 00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:44,572
  1767. a voodoo witch doctor.
  1768.  
  1769. 389
  1770. 00:22:44,697 --> 00:22:47,575
  1771. And I came back to the office
  1772. and found that, on my desk,
  1773.  
  1774. 390
  1775. 00:22:47,741 --> 00:22:49,410
  1776. in a script of the film...
  1777.  
  1778. 391
  1779. 00:22:50,911 --> 00:22:52,663
  1780. was a long, steel needle.
  1781.  
  1782. 392
  1783. 00:22:54,623 --> 00:22:56,375
  1784. This was the mark of the voodoo.
  1785.  
  1786. 393
  1787. 00:22:59,336 --> 00:23:01,672
  1788. While I was in South America,
  1789.  
  1790. 394
  1791. 00:23:01,964 --> 00:23:04,049
  1792. the studio previewed <i>Ambersons</i>
  1793.  
  1794. 395
  1795. 00:23:04,258 --> 00:23:06,176
  1796. and said it was too down-beat.
  1797.  
  1798. 396
  1799. 00:23:06,719 --> 00:23:08,971
  1800. And they started cutting it.
  1801.  
  1802. 397
  1803. 00:23:09,597 --> 00:23:13,267
  1804. The editor used to send him
  1805. telegrams saying,
  1806.  
  1807. 398
  1808. 00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:15,561
  1809. "Come back from Brazil.
  1810.  
  1811. 399
  1812. 00:23:16,312 --> 00:23:20,524
  1813. They are re-shooting <i>The Ambersons.</i>
  1814. We are all under contract.
  1815.  
  1816. 400
  1817. 00:23:20,608 --> 00:23:24,987
  1818. We can do nothing against that.
  1819. You are the only one who can stop that.
  1820.  
  1821. 401
  1822. 00:23:25,279 --> 00:23:26,322
  1823. Come back."
  1824.  
  1825. 402
  1826. 00:23:27,573 --> 00:23:28,573
  1827. And he didn't.
  1828.  
  1829. 403
  1830. 00:23:30,159 --> 00:23:31,827
  1831. I was fired by the studio.
  1832.  
  1833. 404
  1834. 00:23:32,578 --> 00:23:34,663
  1835. I never recovered from that attack.
  1836.  
  1837. 405
  1838. 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,750
  1839. They destroyed <i>Ambersons</i>
  1840.  
  1841. 406
  1842. 00:23:38,250 --> 00:23:40,377
  1843. and destroyed me.
  1844.  
  1845. 407
  1846. 00:23:42,004 --> 00:23:44,965
  1847. I didn't get a job as a director
  1848. for years afterwards.
  1849.  
  1850. 408
  1851. 00:23:48,177 --> 00:23:50,971
  1852. He was considered somebody
  1853. who didn't care that much
  1854.  
  1855. 409
  1856. 00:23:51,055 --> 00:23:53,140
  1857. about the commerciality of a project
  1858.  
  1859. 410
  1860. 00:23:53,641 --> 00:23:54,892
  1861. by many in Hollywood.
  1862.  
  1863. 411
  1864. 00:23:55,726 --> 00:24:00,189
  1865. Therefore, Orson needed to get financing
  1866. from untraditional sources.
  1867.  
  1868. 412
  1869. 00:24:00,564 --> 00:24:02,942
  1870. And, eventually, it worked.
  1871.  
  1872. 413
  1873. 00:24:03,943 --> 00:24:06,445
  1874. But, regarding the money,
  1875. it's complicated.
  1876.  
  1877. 414
  1878. 00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:10,950
  1879. When I was there,
  1880. it was a Spanish producer...
  1881.  
  1882. 415
  1883. 00:24:11,033 --> 00:24:13,285
  1884. - Andrés Gómez.
  1885. - Right, Andrés Gómez.
  1886.  
  1887. 416
  1888. 00:24:13,535 --> 00:24:17,581
  1889. I was not a financier of the film,
  1890. but I did find some money.
  1891.  
  1892. 417
  1893. 00:24:18,123 --> 00:24:20,709
  1894. We had some money from Gómez,
  1895. but we needed more.
  1896.  
  1897. 418
  1898. 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,713
  1899. So, Orson found French producer
  1900. Dominique Antoine.
  1901.  
  1902. 419
  1903. 00:24:24,797 --> 00:24:27,257
  1904. Yeah, so I had the money at that time
  1905.  
  1906. 420
  1907. 00:24:27,341 --> 00:24:30,678
  1908. because I had made an association
  1909. with the brother-in-law of the Shah.
  1910.  
  1911. 421
  1912. 00:24:30,761 --> 00:24:32,012
  1913. The Shah of Iran.
  1914.  
  1915. 422
  1916. 00:24:32,221 --> 00:24:33,847
  1917. And he had a dictatorship.
  1918.  
  1919. 423
  1920. 00:24:34,181 --> 00:24:37,351
  1921. The brother-in-law and I created together
  1922.  
  1923. 424
  1924. 00:24:37,434 --> 00:24:39,436
  1925. a company
  1926. called Les Films de L' Astrophore.
  1927.  
  1928. 425
  1929. 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,771
  1930. L' Astrophore.
  1931.  
  1932. 426
  1933. 00:24:40,854 --> 00:24:43,691
  1934. The Iranian company that was Paris-based.
  1935.  
  1936. 427
  1937. 00:24:44,525 --> 00:24:48,612
  1938. So, I said to Orson, <i>"The Other
  1939. Side of the Wind, </i>of course we do it."
  1940.  
  1941. 428
  1942. 00:24:51,281 --> 00:24:54,660
  1943. I believe she came
  1944. with a satchel full of money.
  1945.  
  1946. 429
  1947. 00:24:54,743 --> 00:24:57,371
  1948. Orson was like the Cat of Cheshire.
  1949.  
  1950. 430
  1951. 00:24:57,454 --> 00:25:02,209
  1952. With a smile from one ear
  1953. to the other one. And he was purring.
  1954.  
  1955. 431
  1956. 00:25:07,423 --> 00:25:09,758
  1957. - Money makes miracles.
  1958. - Yeah.
  1959.  
  1960. 432
  1961. 00:25:10,384 --> 00:25:12,219
  1962. Yeah.
  1963.  
  1964. 433
  1965. 00:25:12,928 --> 00:25:14,680
  1966. You're a bad boy, and you know it.
  1967.  
  1968. 434
  1969. 00:25:16,473 --> 00:25:17,473
  1970. Confused?
  1971.  
  1972. 435
  1973. 00:25:18,434 --> 00:25:21,478
  1974. Don't worry about it.
  1975. It's not the most important thing.
  1976.  
  1977. 436
  1978. 00:25:21,895 --> 00:25:23,313
  1979. What <i>is</i> important
  1980.  
  1981. 437
  1982. 00:25:23,605 --> 00:25:27,067
  1983. is that Orson finally had the money
  1984. for his comeback film.
  1985.  
  1986. 438
  1987. 00:25:28,027 --> 00:25:30,696
  1988. <i>What he didn't have was a leading man.</i>
  1989.  
  1990. 439
  1991. 00:25:33,741 --> 00:25:36,243
  1992. I remember one time we were in Paris,
  1993.  
  1994. 440
  1995. 00:25:36,452 --> 00:25:39,955
  1996. and he'd already shot a lot of footage
  1997. without the leading character.
  1998.  
  1999. 441
  2000. 00:25:40,330 --> 00:25:42,082
  2001. Would you play the director?
  2002.  
  2003. 442
  2004. 00:25:42,499 --> 00:25:44,626
  2005. Who should play it is John Huston.
  2006.  
  2007. 443
  2008. 00:25:46,587 --> 00:25:48,797
  2009. Huston is the best,
  2010. and I'm the second best.
  2011.  
  2012. 444
  2013. 00:25:49,131 --> 00:25:51,884
  2014. If I can't get Huston,
  2015. there's nobody else but me.
  2016.  
  2017. 445
  2018. 00:25:51,967 --> 00:25:52,967
  2019. Yeah.
  2020.  
  2021. 446
  2022. 00:25:53,093 --> 00:25:55,813
  2023. And he's sort of pacing
  2024. up and down the street, saying,
  2025.  
  2026. 447
  2027. 00:25:55,929 --> 00:25:59,224
  2028. "But why should I give it to Huston? It's
  2029. a great part, I should play it myself."
  2030.  
  2031. 448
  2032. 00:26:01,643 --> 00:26:03,145
  2033. If I should ever...
  2034.  
  2035. 449
  2036. 00:26:03,937 --> 00:26:07,357
  2037. get close enough to the pearly gates
  2038. to have an argument
  2039.  
  2040. 450
  2041. 00:26:07,441 --> 00:26:09,151
  2042. with the man who opens them,
  2043.  
  2044. 451
  2045. 00:26:09,818 --> 00:26:13,280
  2046. I would suggest that the reason
  2047. to let me into heaven
  2048.  
  2049. 452
  2050. 00:26:13,405 --> 00:26:15,741
  2051. is that I didn't play that wonderful part.
  2052.  
  2053. 453
  2054. 00:26:18,243 --> 00:26:20,454
  2055. And gave it instead to John Huston.
  2056.  
  2057. 454
  2058. 00:26:20,913 --> 00:26:24,583
  2059. It's a piece of unselfishness
  2060. which I have regretted ever since.
  2061.  
  2062. 455
  2063. 00:26:29,505 --> 00:26:33,008
  2064. John Huston was
  2065. the sexiest old devil I ever met.
  2066.  
  2067. 456
  2068. 00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:36,512
  2069. I'm trying to live...
  2070.  
  2071. 457
  2072. 00:26:37,554 --> 00:26:40,015
  2073. live life as best as I possibly can.
  2074.  
  2075. 458
  2076. 00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:42,893
  2077. Why'd he want John Huston?
  2078.  
  2079. 459
  2080. 00:26:43,393 --> 00:26:45,604
  2081. They loved each other, they were brothers!
  2082.  
  2083. 460
  2084. 00:26:47,898 --> 00:26:51,193
  2085. The thing about Orson Welles
  2086. and my dad is that they were really
  2087.  
  2088. 461
  2089. 00:26:51,735 --> 00:26:54,446
  2090. able to live up to their own mythology
  2091.  
  2092. 462
  2093. 00:26:55,197 --> 00:26:57,241
  2094. and camp that up a little bit.
  2095.  
  2096. 463
  2097. 00:26:58,909 --> 00:27:02,162
  2098. It is a lot of smoke and mirrors.
  2099. You don't know what's real and what's not.
  2100.  
  2101. 464
  2102. 00:27:02,246 --> 00:27:03,872
  2103. And that's what they're playing with.
  2104.  
  2105. 465
  2106. 00:27:05,332 --> 00:27:09,419
  2107. They'd known each other for so many years,
  2108. and they were both rapscallions.
  2109.  
  2110. 466
  2111. 00:27:10,796 --> 00:27:12,506
  2112. John loved Orson Welles.
  2113.  
  2114. 467
  2115. 00:27:16,885 --> 00:27:18,971
  2116. And he received a call one morning,
  2117.  
  2118. 468
  2119. 00:27:19,054 --> 00:27:22,057
  2120. and he said, "Oh, my God!"
  2121. And I said, "What?" He said, "It's Orson.
  2122.  
  2123. 469
  2124. 00:27:24,643 --> 00:27:27,563
  2125. He wants me to come to Carefree, Arizona."
  2126.  
  2127. 470
  2128. 00:27:38,115 --> 00:27:40,742
  2129. Gary called me at about 10:00 at night.
  2130.  
  2131. 471
  2132. 00:27:40,868 --> 00:27:44,079
  2133. "Mike, can you be in Arizona tomorrow?"
  2134.  
  2135. 472
  2136. 00:27:44,163 --> 00:27:46,331
  2137. "Orson's putting together
  2138. a ten-day shoot."
  2139.  
  2140. 473
  2141. 00:27:46,415 --> 00:27:49,042
  2142. Would I come down for ten days.
  2143. He needed me.
  2144.  
  2145. 474
  2146. 00:27:49,126 --> 00:27:52,296
  2147. To go to the desert
  2148. in the middle of nowhere.
  2149.  
  2150. 475
  2151. 00:27:52,379 --> 00:27:55,340
  2152. "It's gonna be like summer camp,
  2153. I don't know if there's any money.
  2154.  
  2155. 476
  2156. 00:27:55,424 --> 00:27:58,135
  2157. - Are you interested?"
  2158. - And I said, "Yes."
  2159.  
  2160. 477
  2161. 00:27:58,218 --> 00:27:59,978
  2162. - "Yeah. That sounds like fun."
  2163. - Absolutely.
  2164.  
  2165. 478
  2166. 00:28:00,053 --> 00:28:02,014
  2167. I'm in my car driving to Arizona.
  2168.  
  2169. 479
  2170. 00:28:02,472 --> 00:28:05,642
  2171. I suddenly looked up
  2172. and there was the <i>Zabriskie Point</i> house.
  2173.  
  2174. 480
  2175. 00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:10,731
  2176. It's clearly no coincidence
  2177.  
  2178. 481
  2179. 00:28:10,814 --> 00:28:14,193
  2180. that the location that Orson chose
  2181. to shoot in Arizona
  2182.  
  2183. 482
  2184. 00:28:14,818 --> 00:28:17,446
  2185. is in fact the house next door
  2186.  
  2187. 483
  2188. 00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:20,949
  2189. to the house Antonioni blew up
  2190. in <i>Zabriskie Point.</i>
  2191.  
  2192. 484
  2193. 00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:26,496
  2194. On <i>The Other Side of the Wind,</i>
  2195.  
  2196. 485
  2197. 00:28:26,580 --> 00:28:28,832
  2198. Orson wanted to push further
  2199. than Antonioni.
  2200.  
  2201. 486
  2202. 00:28:29,875 --> 00:28:32,961
  2203. Orson was the ultimate
  2204. independent filmmaker.
  2205.  
  2206. 487
  2207. 00:28:34,588 --> 00:28:36,882
  2208. I was part of a core crew, not of 80,
  2209.  
  2210. 488
  2211. 00:28:37,466 --> 00:28:40,135
  2212. but of six people plus Orson.
  2213.  
  2214. 489
  2215. 00:28:40,969 --> 00:28:43,722
  2216. He wanted to be in a kind of circus.
  2217.  
  2218. 490
  2219. 00:28:44,973 --> 00:28:46,600
  2220. Full of young people.
  2221.  
  2222. 491
  2223. 00:28:47,309 --> 00:28:49,937
  2224. I fell right in the vat of cream.
  2225.  
  2226. 492
  2227. 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,200
  2228. You know,
  2229. I fell right in the middle of it.
  2230.  
  2231. 493
  2232. 00:28:53,065 --> 00:28:56,235
  2233. For me to have the luck
  2234. to work with Orson Welles,
  2235.  
  2236. 494
  2237. 00:28:56,902 --> 00:29:01,240
  2238. oh, it was so exciting,
  2239. even when it was difficult.
  2240.  
  2241. 495
  2242. 00:29:06,578 --> 00:29:09,122
  2243. I mean, the first day of shooting,
  2244. he fired the sound man.
  2245.  
  2246. 496
  2247. 00:29:09,623 --> 00:29:12,501
  2248. Can you please just slow down?
  2249. Otherwise I'm going to fall off the car.
  2250.  
  2251. 497
  2252. 00:29:14,586 --> 00:29:16,797
  2253. Everybody's job was really difficult.
  2254.  
  2255. 498
  2256. 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,591
  2257. I had built sets, schlep sets,
  2258. hung lights.
  2259.  
  2260. 499
  2261. 00:29:19,675 --> 00:29:22,886
  2262. This young kid, so anxious
  2263. to get this thing for Orson
  2264.  
  2265. 500
  2266. 00:29:22,970 --> 00:29:26,181
  2267. - that he ran through the plate glass.
  2268. - Shattered it.
  2269.  
  2270. 501
  2271. 00:29:26,390 --> 00:29:28,100
  2272. Fortunately, I was going so fast...
  2273.  
  2274. 502
  2275. 00:29:28,183 --> 00:29:30,602
  2276. He was in the living room
  2277. before the pieces of glass
  2278.  
  2279. 503
  2280. 00:29:30,686 --> 00:29:33,689
  2281. had finished cascading down to the floor.
  2282.  
  2283. 504
  2284. 00:29:34,273 --> 00:29:36,400
  2285. - Oh, it's great.
  2286. - It was crazy.
  2287.  
  2288. 505
  2289. 00:29:36,483 --> 00:29:37,859
  2290. It is insane,
  2291.  
  2292. 506
  2293. 00:29:38,402 --> 00:29:42,030
  2294. but it's the kind of thing that happens
  2295. to people who are working like Orson.
  2296.  
  2297. 507
  2298. 00:29:43,490 --> 00:29:46,410
  2299. I picked John Huston up at the airport
  2300. in Phoenix.
  2301.  
  2302. 508
  2303. 00:29:47,744 --> 00:29:49,955
  2304. I said, "Mr. Huston,
  2305. I'm thrilled you're here."
  2306.  
  2307. 509
  2308. 00:29:50,163 --> 00:29:53,166
  2309. I said, "We've been waiting for you
  2310. for three years to be in this film.
  2311.  
  2312. 510
  2313. 00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:56,420
  2314. We've been shooting around you."
  2315. And Huston looked really alarmed. He said,
  2316.  
  2317. 511
  2318. 00:29:57,254 --> 00:29:59,881
  2319. "You've been acting in this picture
  2320. for three years?"
  2321.  
  2322. 512
  2323. 00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:03,385
  2324. Write that down, somebody.
  2325.  
  2326. 513
  2327. 00:30:06,596 --> 00:30:07,596
  2328. Cut.
  2329.  
  2330. 514
  2331. 00:30:07,931 --> 00:30:10,142
  2332. - I fucked that up.
  2333. - Let’s do it once again.
  2334.  
  2335. 515
  2336. 00:30:10,225 --> 00:30:12,602
  2337. The little campier still, but masculine.
  2338.  
  2339. 516
  2340. 00:30:13,437 --> 00:30:14,437
  2341. Once again.
  2342.  
  2343. 517
  2344. 00:30:15,522 --> 00:30:18,900
  2345. <i>The Other Side of the Wind</i>
  2346. is not a complete departure for Orson.
  2347.  
  2348. 518
  2349. 00:30:19,192 --> 00:30:20,902
  2350. And it reflected
  2351.  
  2352. 519
  2353. 00:30:20,986 --> 00:30:25,365
  2354. the process that Orson had been going
  2355. through in Europe in making his own films.
  2356.  
  2357. 520
  2358. 00:30:26,074 --> 00:30:27,701
  2359. <i>Welles' exile had meant</i>
  2360.  
  2361. 521
  2362. 00:30:27,784 --> 00:30:30,454
  2363. <i>that he was exiled from the facilities
  2364. of Hollywood.</i>
  2365.  
  2366. 522
  2367. 00:30:31,330 --> 00:30:33,373
  2368. I have a different style
  2369. as a director,
  2370.  
  2371. 523
  2372. 00:30:33,874 --> 00:30:35,876
  2373. because I know of things I can't ask for.
  2374.  
  2375. 524
  2376. 00:30:36,626 --> 00:30:38,462
  2377. For example, with <i>Othello,</i>
  2378.  
  2379. 525
  2380. 00:30:38,754 --> 00:30:42,049
  2381. there's a fight scene
  2382. where a punch is thrown,
  2383.  
  2384. 526
  2385. 00:30:42,341 --> 00:30:44,217
  2386. but then production had to shut down
  2387.  
  2388. 527
  2389. 00:30:44,301 --> 00:30:47,012
  2390. while Orson went off
  2391. to make more money as an actor.
  2392.  
  2393. 528
  2394. 00:30:47,637 --> 00:30:50,932
  2395. And the reaction shot
  2396. of the guy getting punched
  2397.  
  2398. 529
  2399. 00:30:51,475 --> 00:30:54,895
  2400. was shot two years later
  2401. and a thousand miles away.
  2402.  
  2403. 530
  2404. 00:30:57,022 --> 00:30:58,065
  2405. It worked.
  2406.  
  2407. 531
  2408. 00:30:59,274 --> 00:31:01,114
  2409. Who would've thought that was possible?
  2410.  
  2411. 532
  2412. 00:31:10,035 --> 00:31:11,078
  2413. Good evening.
  2414.  
  2415. 533
  2416. 00:31:11,787 --> 00:31:12,788
  2417. Now...
  2418.  
  2419. 534
  2420. 00:31:13,330 --> 00:31:17,250
  2421. the first thing you're probably asking
  2422. yourself is, "What is Orson Welles
  2423.  
  2424. 535
  2425. 00:31:18,251 --> 00:31:20,003
  2426. doing as the host of a comedy show?"
  2427.  
  2428. 536
  2429. 00:31:21,755 --> 00:31:27,094
  2430. I met Orson on <i>Kopykats,</i> a show
  2431. we did with a bunch of impersonators.
  2432.  
  2433. 537
  2434. 00:31:27,177 --> 00:31:28,845
  2435. Starring Rich Little.
  2436.  
  2437. 538
  2438. 00:31:29,012 --> 00:31:32,432
  2439. I was in the studio doing a routine
  2440.  
  2441. 539
  2442. 00:31:32,724 --> 00:31:35,519
  2443. called "Famous Celebrity Sneezing."
  2444.  
  2445. 540
  2446. 00:31:39,231 --> 00:31:41,733
  2447. I said, "Orson Welles, sneezing."
  2448.  
  2449. 541
  2450. 00:31:41,942 --> 00:31:45,862
  2451. I did not know that he'd just come
  2452. into the studio. I went...
  2453.  
  2454. 542
  2455. 00:31:46,530 --> 00:31:49,574
  2456. "Aah-aah-choo."
  2457.  
  2458. 543
  2459. 00:31:50,367 --> 00:31:52,911
  2460. And he put his arm on my shoulder
  2461. and said...
  2462.  
  2463. 544
  2464. 00:31:53,745 --> 00:31:55,831
  2465. "I never sneeze."
  2466.  
  2467. 545
  2468. 00:31:59,418 --> 00:32:00,418
  2469. We clicked.
  2470.  
  2471. 546
  2472. 00:32:00,836 --> 00:32:04,047
  2473. Well, gee, Orson, I don't know how
  2474. this show could afford you.
  2475.  
  2476. 547
  2477. 00:32:13,473 --> 00:32:17,936
  2478. He phoned me at home, and told me
  2479. about this movie, <i>Other Side of the Wind,</i>
  2480.  
  2481. 548
  2482. 00:32:18,353 --> 00:32:22,566
  2483. and would I be interested in playing
  2484. a wide-eyed, young director.
  2485.  
  2486. 549
  2487. 00:32:23,567 --> 00:32:25,610
  2488. I said, "Well, great.
  2489.  
  2490. 550
  2491. 00:32:25,694 --> 00:32:30,198
  2492. Just on one condition. That I have
  2493. to shoot my scenes in about three weeks."
  2494.  
  2495. 551
  2496. 00:32:30,490 --> 00:32:35,245
  2497. He said, "Oh, no, no.
  2498. I'll probably need you for about a week."
  2499.  
  2500. 552
  2501. 00:32:37,789 --> 00:32:39,958
  2502. When I was introduced to John Huston,
  2503.  
  2504. 553
  2505. 00:32:40,041 --> 00:32:44,087
  2506. Orson went up to him and said,
  2507. "John, this is Rich Little.
  2508.  
  2509. 554
  2510. 00:32:44,421 --> 00:32:48,550
  2511. He's one of the world's
  2512. greatest impressionists."
  2513.  
  2514. 555
  2515. 00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:50,719
  2516. And John Huston said:
  2517.  
  2518. 556
  2519. 00:32:50,886 --> 00:32:54,347
  2520. "Oh, well,
  2521. then we're gonna get along fine,
  2522.  
  2523. 557
  2524. 00:32:54,431 --> 00:32:57,017
  2525. because I'm into art, you know."
  2526.  
  2527. 558
  2528. 00:32:58,310 --> 00:33:01,021
  2529. "No, no, not that kind of impressionist.
  2530.  
  2531. 559
  2532. 00:33:01,688 --> 00:33:02,856
  2533. He does voices."
  2534.  
  2535. 560
  2536. 00:33:05,108 --> 00:33:08,653
  2537. "Why would he do that?
  2538. Why couldn't they get the real people?"
  2539.  
  2540. 561
  2541. 00:33:13,950 --> 00:33:16,244
  2542. <i>Orson populated the film with characters</i>
  2543.  
  2544. 562
  2545. 00:33:16,328 --> 00:33:18,622
  2546. <i>based on the icons of the film community.</i>
  2547.  
  2548. 563
  2549. 00:33:19,873 --> 00:33:21,917
  2550. <i>Like screenwriter John Milius.</i>
  2551.  
  2552. 564
  2553. 00:33:23,043 --> 00:33:24,753
  2554. <i>Film critic Pauline Kael.</i>
  2555.  
  2556. 565
  2557. 00:33:25,337 --> 00:33:28,131
  2558. I just want to know what he represents.
  2559.  
  2560. 566
  2561. 00:33:28,215 --> 00:33:31,635
  2562. <i>And the head of
  2563. Paramount Pictures, Robert Evans.</i>
  2564.  
  2565. 567
  2566. 00:33:32,594 --> 00:33:35,597
  2567. I started to figure out that Rich Little's
  2568. supposed to be Peter.
  2569.  
  2570. 568
  2571. 00:33:37,724 --> 00:33:42,729
  2572. The character was a young,
  2573. successful director who did imitations.
  2574.  
  2575. 569
  2576. 00:33:42,896 --> 00:33:44,773
  2577. And that's what Peter did.
  2578.  
  2579. 570
  2580. 00:33:45,315 --> 00:33:46,566
  2581. I'm Peter Bogdanovich.
  2582.  
  2583. 571
  2584. 00:33:47,275 --> 00:33:49,778
  2585. What's the word I say? Oh, action!
  2586.  
  2587. 572
  2588. 00:33:50,946 --> 00:33:55,283
  2589. And so then I started to think, "Well,
  2590. is John Huston supposed to be Orson?"
  2591.  
  2592. 573
  2593. 00:33:56,409 --> 00:34:00,080
  2594. I remember thinking, “Oh, my gosh,
  2595. this is starting to get really weird.”
  2596.  
  2597. 574
  2598. 00:34:02,374 --> 00:34:04,918
  2599. I can remember one time we shot a scene...
  2600.  
  2601. 575
  2602. 00:34:05,377 --> 00:34:06,377
  2603. Brooksie.
  2604.  
  2605. 576
  2606. 00:34:06,586 --> 00:34:09,714
  2607. - Right here by your side, skipper.
  2608. - You know what I'd like for my birthday?
  2609.  
  2610. 577
  2611. 00:34:10,715 --> 00:34:11,715
  2612. Cut.
  2613.  
  2614. 578
  2615. 00:34:12,092 --> 00:34:13,510
  2616. John couldn't drive.
  2617.  
  2618. 579
  2619. 00:34:14,469 --> 00:34:16,596
  2620. And he never told us this.
  2621.  
  2622. 580
  2623. 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,390
  2624. - My camera's gone out.
  2625. - Oh, Jesus!
  2626.  
  2627. 581
  2628. 00:34:18,515 --> 00:34:21,395
  2629. - Certainly, it was a stick-shift.
  2630. - Give me the magazine, quick!
  2631.  
  2632. 582
  2633. 00:34:21,768 --> 00:34:24,288
  2634. And I was kinda worried,
  2635. 'cause I had to return the car.
  2636.  
  2637. 583
  2638. 00:34:24,354 --> 00:34:26,064
  2639. - It's stopped.
  2640. - The magazine jammed.
  2641.  
  2642. 584
  2643. 00:34:26,147 --> 00:34:27,482
  2644. The car stopped, too.
  2645.  
  2646. 585
  2647. 00:34:29,818 --> 00:34:33,029
  2648. Let's put it in drive. In "D."
  2649.  
  2650. 586
  2651. 00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:36,305
  2652. It looked like we were gonna go
  2653. right into the lake.
  2654.  
  2655. 587
  2656. 00:34:37,659 --> 00:34:38,743
  2657. John said to me,
  2658.  
  2659. 588
  2660. 00:34:39,077 --> 00:34:41,705
  2661. "Oh, Rich, you'll get good billing."
  2662.  
  2663. 589
  2664. 00:34:41,788 --> 00:34:45,834
  2665. 'Orson Welles, John Huston,
  2666. and Rich Little,
  2667.  
  2668. 590
  2669. 00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:48,044
  2670. all drowned'."
  2671.  
  2672. 591
  2673. 00:34:53,717 --> 00:34:56,678
  2674. This is a picture about the love of death.
  2675.  
  2676. 592
  2677. 00:34:57,178 --> 00:34:59,139
  2678. You came to my party after all.
  2679.  
  2680. 593
  2681. 00:35:00,098 --> 00:35:01,766
  2682. Get in. I'll drive you.
  2683.  
  2684. 594
  2685. 00:35:09,524 --> 00:35:12,485
  2686. This is Jake Hannaford's
  2687. 70th birthday party.
  2688.  
  2689. 595
  2690. 00:35:13,945 --> 00:35:15,322
  2691. He died at the end of it.
  2692.  
  2693. 596
  2694. 00:35:15,947 --> 00:35:20,118
  2695. And there was some question as to
  2696. whether it was an accident or suicide.
  2697.  
  2698. 597
  2699. 00:35:21,536 --> 00:35:25,081
  2700. So, what you're seeing
  2701. is a reconstruction of the...
  2702.  
  2703. 598
  2704. 00:35:25,165 --> 00:35:27,834
  2705. - Roll tape!
  2706. - 40, David, take six.
  2707.  
  2708. 599
  2709. 00:35:28,752 --> 00:35:32,130
  2710. ...made up of all this
  2711. different footage, all put together.
  2712.  
  2713. 600
  2714. 00:35:32,797 --> 00:35:35,467
  2715. - Mr. Hannaford.
  2716. - Happy birthday, Jake!
  2717.  
  2718. 601
  2719. 00:35:36,134 --> 00:35:40,096
  2720. The whole documentary, the kind
  2721. that we're all so accustomed to today,
  2722.  
  2723. 602
  2724. 00:35:41,014 --> 00:35:42,390
  2725. he was inventing.
  2726.  
  2727. 603
  2728. 00:35:42,474 --> 00:35:43,892
  2729. Happy birthday!
  2730.  
  2731. 604
  2732. 00:35:44,017 --> 00:35:47,604
  2733. And for that, Gary was probably
  2734. an ideal cameraman,
  2735.  
  2736. 605
  2737. 00:35:47,687 --> 00:35:49,397
  2738. because Gary was very fast.
  2739.  
  2740. 606
  2741. 00:35:52,192 --> 00:35:55,111
  2742. Gary Graver was the key person
  2743. on the film.
  2744.  
  2745. 607
  2746. 00:35:55,362 --> 00:35:57,947
  2747. He was the closest person to Orson.
  2748.  
  2749. 608
  2750. 00:35:58,907 --> 00:36:02,827
  2751. Gary was really like the son
  2752. Orson didn't have.
  2753.  
  2754. 609
  2755. 00:36:03,662 --> 00:36:06,706
  2756. Orson and Gary, father-son...
  2757.  
  2758. 610
  2759. 00:36:07,248 --> 00:36:08,333
  2760. No. Not so much.
  2761.  
  2762. 611
  2763. 00:36:08,917 --> 00:36:10,960
  2764. - Orson isn't very paternal.
  2765. - Action.
  2766.  
  2767. 612
  2768. 00:36:11,169 --> 00:36:14,631
  2769. Go back! Go back, back up,
  2770. back up. Quickly!
  2771.  
  2772. 613
  2773. 00:36:14,714 --> 00:36:17,217
  2774. - Up! Up! Up!
  2775. - Bossy, yes.
  2776.  
  2777. 614
  2778. 00:36:17,842 --> 00:36:18,968
  2779. Paternal, no.
  2780.  
  2781. 615
  2782. 00:36:19,552 --> 00:36:21,012
  2783. Slower! Stop!
  2784.  
  2785. 616
  2786. 00:36:22,055 --> 00:36:23,139
  2787. Move slowly!
  2788.  
  2789. 617
  2790. 00:36:26,851 --> 00:36:29,813
  2791. My father Gary's enthusiasm
  2792. for filmmaking
  2793.  
  2794. 618
  2795. 00:36:29,896 --> 00:36:32,315
  2796. was something I don't think
  2797. I've ever seen equaled.
  2798.  
  2799. 619
  2800. 00:36:33,066 --> 00:36:37,612
  2801. Every moment that my dad
  2802. was not actively engaged in shooting,
  2803.  
  2804. 620
  2805. 00:36:37,696 --> 00:36:39,906
  2806. he looked at that as time lost.
  2807.  
  2808. 621
  2809. 00:36:42,283 --> 00:36:44,744
  2810. Gary and I, we got married when I was 21.
  2811.  
  2812. 622
  2813. 00:36:45,787 --> 00:36:48,415
  2814. And if he was scheduled
  2815. to be home at 10:00,
  2816.  
  2817. 623
  2818. 00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:52,961
  2819. and it went until 4:00 in the morning,
  2820. oh, well, he stayed.
  2821.  
  2822. 624
  2823. 00:36:55,046 --> 00:36:56,046
  2824. Action!
  2825.  
  2826. 625
  2827. 00:36:56,715 --> 00:36:58,925
  2828. Gary did as he was told.
  2829.  
  2830. 626
  2831. 00:36:59,259 --> 00:37:01,428
  2832. Orson put the camera where he wanted to,
  2833.  
  2834. 627
  2835. 00:37:01,511 --> 00:37:04,264
  2836. and Gary was, you know, just his slave.
  2837.  
  2838. 628
  2839. 00:37:05,056 --> 00:37:08,435
  2840. Orson would have the camera to
  2841. his eye and he'd say, "Come here, Gary."
  2842.  
  2843. 629
  2844. 00:37:08,643 --> 00:37:13,106
  2845. And then he'd move his head to the side,
  2846. and he said, "This is it, see it?"
  2847.  
  2848. 630
  2849. 00:37:14,816 --> 00:37:16,776
  2850. And I had to make it exactly right.
  2851.  
  2852. 631
  2853. 00:37:20,029 --> 00:37:22,574
  2854. When I look back on it,
  2855. it's so complicated.
  2856.  
  2857. 632
  2858. 00:37:23,742 --> 00:37:25,076
  2859. You wanted to please him,
  2860.  
  2861. 633
  2862. 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,579
  2863. because you knew he was such an artist.
  2864.  
  2865. 634
  2866. 00:37:28,997 --> 00:37:31,166
  2867. I mean, anything was possible with Orson.
  2868.  
  2869. 635
  2870. 00:37:31,499 --> 00:37:33,219
  2871. Everything had to happen right away,
  2872.  
  2873. 636
  2874. 00:37:33,251 --> 00:37:35,962
  2875. even when we didn't quite understand
  2876. what we were doing.
  2877.  
  2878. 637
  2879. 00:37:36,963 --> 00:37:38,006
  2880. There was no script.
  2881.  
  2882. 638
  2883. 00:37:39,048 --> 00:37:41,926
  2884. He was constantly writing it
  2885. as he was going along.
  2886.  
  2887. 639
  2888. 00:37:42,010 --> 00:37:44,345
  2889. And fiddy-owney-owney-own!
  2890.  
  2891. 640
  2892. 00:37:44,429 --> 00:37:46,824
  2893. Sometimes I had trouble
  2894. understanding some of the lines.
  2895.  
  2896. 641
  2897. 00:37:46,848 --> 00:37:47,682
  2898. What?
  2899.  
  2900. 642
  2901. 00:37:47,766 --> 00:37:50,769
  2902. I remember one line was
  2903. the great "anonymous gang-shag."
  2904.  
  2905. 643
  2906. 00:37:50,852 --> 00:37:54,063
  2907. "And the cool, dim, anonymous gang-shag."
  2908.  
  2909. 644
  2910. 00:37:54,147 --> 00:37:56,858
  2911. And I didn't know
  2912. what that meant actually.
  2913.  
  2914. 645
  2915. 00:37:57,275 --> 00:38:01,529
  2916. Would somebody please tell me
  2917. why I'm going to a stupid party
  2918.  
  2919. 646
  2920. 00:38:01,613 --> 00:38:04,032
  2921. with all these stupid dummies?
  2922.  
  2923. 647
  2924. 00:38:04,824 --> 00:38:06,785
  2925. I had no idea
  2926. what all these dummies were.
  2927.  
  2928. 648
  2929. 00:38:06,868 --> 00:38:08,578
  2930. There were dummies out by the pool.
  2931.  
  2932. 649
  2933. 00:38:08,703 --> 00:38:11,539
  2934. They were there 'cause Orson said,
  2935. "Let's put these dummies out there."
  2936.  
  2937. 650
  2938. 00:38:12,123 --> 00:38:13,416
  2939. But it was like, "Well, why?"
  2940.  
  2941. 651
  2942. 00:38:13,917 --> 00:38:15,502
  2943. Didn't make any sense to me.
  2944.  
  2945. 652
  2946. 00:38:16,085 --> 00:38:18,797
  2947. But Orson knew exactly what he wanted.
  2948.  
  2949. 653
  2950. 00:38:19,214 --> 00:38:21,341
  2951. Every part of it was here.
  2952.  
  2953. 654
  2954. 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,800
  2955. To Baker, one.
  2956.  
  2957. 655
  2958. 00:38:23,426 --> 00:38:26,012
  2959. We were doing a scene and Orson said...
  2960.  
  2961. 656
  2962. 00:38:26,179 --> 00:38:28,139
  2963. Now a midget goes from behind you...
  2964.  
  2965. 657
  2966. 00:38:28,723 --> 00:38:31,059
  2967. All of you feel
  2968. midgets touching your feet.
  2969.  
  2970. 658
  2971. 00:38:31,309 --> 00:38:33,520
  2972. "Midgets running between your legs."
  2973.  
  2974. 659
  2975. 00:38:33,728 --> 00:38:35,522
  2976. - All right.
  2977. - Keep acting?
  2978.  
  2979. 660
  2980. 00:38:35,605 --> 00:38:37,482
  2981. It’s what you do to make this work, right?
  2982.  
  2983. 661
  2984. 00:38:37,565 --> 00:38:41,236
  2985. Orson said, "Everybody look up!
  2986. Midgets on the roof!"
  2987.  
  2988. 662
  2989. 00:38:41,903 --> 00:38:45,240
  2990. I said, "Orson, what the heck
  2991. is this midgets bit?"
  2992.  
  2993. 663
  2994. 00:38:45,824 --> 00:38:49,828
  2995. And he said, "We're going to put
  2996. the midgets in later, in Spain."
  2997.  
  2998. 664
  2999. 00:38:50,411 --> 00:38:52,038
  3000. And then walked away.
  3001.  
  3002. 665
  3003. 00:38:54,707 --> 00:38:57,502
  3004. The rule of thumb was
  3005. Orson knows what he's doing,
  3006.  
  3007. 666
  3008. 00:38:57,794 --> 00:39:00,713
  3009. don't question anything. Just do it.
  3010.  
  3011. 667
  3012. 00:39:01,256 --> 00:39:04,259
  3013. I'm not sure he knew where this movie
  3014. was going, and, um...
  3015.  
  3016. 668
  3017. 00:39:04,759 --> 00:39:07,303
  3018. I'm not sure anybody did, actually.
  3019.  
  3020. 669
  3021. 00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:13,309
  3022. It's quite clear that Rich wasn't
  3023. comfortable with Orson's process.
  3024.  
  3025. 670
  3026. 00:39:13,810 --> 00:39:15,061
  3027. Wasn't a team player.
  3028.  
  3029. 671
  3030. 00:39:15,728 --> 00:39:18,773
  3031. Realistically, I suppose
  3032. he was counting down the days
  3033.  
  3034. 672
  3035. 00:39:18,857 --> 00:39:21,317
  3036. until he knew he had to leave.
  3037.  
  3038. 673
  3039. 00:39:21,901 --> 00:39:24,571
  3040. My three weeks was up, and I had to leave,
  3041.  
  3042. 674
  3043. 00:39:25,238 --> 00:39:28,533
  3044. because I had club engagements
  3045. that I can't get out of.
  3046.  
  3047. 675
  3048. 00:39:29,701 --> 00:39:31,870
  3049. And if I don't show up I'm gonna be sued.
  3050.  
  3051. 676
  3052. 00:39:32,662 --> 00:39:34,831
  3053. And I thought to myself, "Oh, my gosh,
  3054.  
  3055. 677
  3056. 00:39:34,914 --> 00:39:37,041
  3057. I'm not gonna be able
  3058. to finish this part."
  3059.  
  3060. 678
  3061. 00:39:41,212 --> 00:39:43,423
  3062. Well, here's what I remember happened.
  3063.  
  3064. 679
  3065. 00:39:43,590 --> 00:39:45,008
  3066. It was the last night.
  3067.  
  3068. 680
  3069. 00:39:45,717 --> 00:39:47,802
  3070. The film was practically finished.
  3071.  
  3072. 681
  3073. 00:39:49,053 --> 00:39:51,514
  3074. We were supposed to shoot
  3075. this big scene.
  3076.  
  3077. 682
  3078. 00:39:52,265 --> 00:39:55,643
  3079. We went to get him, Saturday morning,
  3080. he was gone.
  3081.  
  3082. 683
  3083. 00:39:57,562 --> 00:40:01,065
  3084. We were all there waiting for him,
  3085. and he never showed up.
  3086.  
  3087. 684
  3088. 00:40:01,608 --> 00:40:04,360
  3089. As I recall, he wanted to go
  3090. to New Orleans for something.
  3091.  
  3092. 685
  3093. 00:40:04,444 --> 00:40:06,084
  3094. He had an engagement in Las Vegas.
  3095.  
  3096. 686
  3097. 00:40:06,154 --> 00:40:10,241
  3098. Allegedly, Orson's secretary
  3099. had been having a relationship
  3100.  
  3101. 687
  3102. 00:40:10,325 --> 00:40:11,367
  3103. with Rich Little.
  3104.  
  3105. 688
  3106. 00:40:11,451 --> 00:40:13,828
  3107. He missed his wife
  3108. and he was tired of working.
  3109.  
  3110. 689
  3111. 00:40:13,912 --> 00:40:17,707
  3112. Orson said, "No! You're on a contract here
  3113. for the next..." And he left and went.
  3114.  
  3115. 690
  3116. 00:40:19,584 --> 00:40:20,668
  3117. You don't do that to Orson.
  3118.  
  3119. 691
  3120. 00:40:22,337 --> 00:40:23,796
  3121. He felt betrayed.
  3122.  
  3123. 692
  3124. 00:40:25,340 --> 00:40:28,968
  3125. I could've come back later
  3126. and finished the scenes.
  3127.  
  3128. 693
  3129. 00:40:29,052 --> 00:40:32,889
  3130. We never discussed that, and I...
  3131. That always puzzled me.
  3132.  
  3133. 694
  3134. 00:40:33,514 --> 00:40:36,935
  3135. I thought, "They're gonna have to do
  3136. all those scenes over again.
  3137.  
  3138. 695
  3139. 00:40:37,018 --> 00:40:38,937
  3140. Oh, my gosh! I can't imagine."
  3141.  
  3142. 696
  3143. 00:40:40,104 --> 00:40:41,314
  3144. It was crazy.
  3145.  
  3146. 697
  3147. 00:40:42,273 --> 00:40:45,526
  3148. I have replaced actors
  3149. on the second week of shooting.
  3150.  
  3151. 698
  3152. 00:40:45,902 --> 00:40:47,320
  3153. But after seven weeks...
  3154.  
  3155. 699
  3156. 00:40:48,071 --> 00:40:49,071
  3157. it's impossible.
  3158.  
  3159. 700
  3160. 00:40:51,991 --> 00:40:54,327
  3161. I called him, I said, "How's it going?"
  3162.  
  3163. 701
  3164. 00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:56,620
  3165. "Terrible.
  3166.  
  3167. 702
  3168. 00:40:57,413 --> 00:41:00,249
  3169. I just blew 25 Gs
  3170. and I don't have that kind of bread.
  3171.  
  3172. 703
  3173. 00:41:00,625 --> 00:41:02,377
  3174. I had to pay off Rich Little."
  3175.  
  3176. 704
  3177. 00:41:02,835 --> 00:41:04,253
  3178. - "Why?"
  3179. - "He can't act!"
  3180.  
  3181. 705
  3182. 00:41:04,921 --> 00:41:07,161
  3183. "Oh, gee, I'm sorry to hear that.
  3184. What are you gonna do?"
  3185.  
  3186. 706
  3187. 00:41:07,256 --> 00:41:11,094
  3188. "I don't know what I'm gonna do.
  3189. I just can't use any of his stuff."
  3190.  
  3191. 707
  3192. 00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:14,013
  3193. He is a rough magician, isn't he?
  3194.  
  3195. 708
  3196. 00:41:14,389 --> 00:41:18,101
  3197. So I said, "That's terrible,
  3198. Orson. Why don't I play it?"
  3199.  
  3200. 709
  3201. 00:41:18,935 --> 00:41:20,895
  3202. He is a rough magician, isn't he?
  3203.  
  3204. 710
  3205. 00:41:21,646 --> 00:41:24,232
  3206. And then he said,
  3207. "Well, you're playing that other part."
  3208.  
  3209. 711
  3210. 00:41:25,733 --> 00:41:27,735
  3211. I said, "You can just cut me out of that."
  3212.  
  3213. 712
  3214. 00:41:32,115 --> 00:41:35,368
  3215. All right, men! Let's get organized.
  3216. Now where shall we start?
  3217.  
  3218. 713
  3219. 00:41:37,036 --> 00:41:41,374
  3220. John Huston goes, "Peter, how many
  3221. movies have you actually acted in now?"
  3222.  
  3223. 714
  3224. 00:41:42,291 --> 00:41:47,296
  3225. "Well, this is my second, Mr. Huston."
  3226. "Two? Makes it easy to count!"
  3227.  
  3228. 715
  3229. 00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:52,552
  3230. Scene three X, take one.
  3231.  
  3232. 716
  3233. 00:41:54,053 --> 00:41:57,181
  3234. Ah, red light.
  3235.  
  3236. 717
  3237. 00:41:57,724 --> 00:41:59,225
  3238. - No, we...
  3239. - Mr. Hannaford.
  3240.  
  3241. 718
  3242. 00:41:59,392 --> 00:42:01,728
  3243. Oh, shit, I'm sorry. I'll do that again.
  3244.  
  3245. 719
  3246. 00:42:01,811 --> 00:42:03,571
  3247. - Start again?
  3248. - Yeah, do it better.
  3249.  
  3250. 720
  3251. 00:42:03,646 --> 00:42:05,406
  3252. - You must deal with every situation.
  3253. - Okay.
  3254.  
  3255. 721
  3256. 00:42:07,358 --> 00:42:10,903
  3257. Why snap your finger? We're not cutting.
  3258. Uh-uh.
  3259.  
  3260. 722
  3261. 00:42:12,405 --> 00:42:15,074
  3262. Orson said, "Play it like it's us."
  3263.  
  3264. 723
  3265. 00:42:18,077 --> 00:42:19,662
  3266. <i>In case you haven't noticed,</i>
  3267.  
  3268. 724
  3269. 00:42:19,746 --> 00:42:24,500
  3270. <i>Peter Bogdanovich went from playing
  3271. exactly who he was in 1970,</i>
  3272.  
  3273. 725
  3274. 00:42:24,917 --> 00:42:26,294
  3275. <i>a young writer,</i>
  3276.  
  3277. 726
  3278. 00:42:26,377 --> 00:42:31,090
  3279. <i>a celebrated movie director.</i>
  3280.  
  3281. 727
  3282. 00:42:32,216 --> 00:42:35,762
  3283. My book on Hannaford's been canceled.
  3284. Indefinitely.
  3285.  
  3286. 728
  3287. 00:42:36,220 --> 00:42:39,060
  3288. Yeah, the first five chapters took
  3289. the two of us three and a half years.
  3290.  
  3291. 729
  3292. 00:42:39,140 --> 00:42:43,227
  3293. Finally, I just had to start
  3294. directing myself so I could eat.
  3295.  
  3296. 730
  3297. 00:42:44,145 --> 00:42:47,106
  3298. - Ha! Good. Now right away...
  3299. - Do another one. Right.
  3300.  
  3301. 731
  3302. 00:42:47,774 --> 00:42:49,317
  3303. - Action?
  3304. - Action.
  3305.  
  3306. 732
  3307. 00:42:49,859 --> 00:42:52,487
  3308. I had to start directing myself
  3309. so I could eat!
  3310.  
  3311. 733
  3312. 00:42:53,738 --> 00:42:55,740
  3313. - Cut! Very good.
  3314. - That was good.
  3315.  
  3316. 734
  3317. 00:42:56,991 --> 00:43:00,578
  3318. At that time, Orson had
  3319. more influence on me than anybody.
  3320.  
  3321. 735
  3322. 00:43:01,913 --> 00:43:03,998
  3323. There's a number of myths
  3324. about you already,
  3325.  
  3326. 736
  3327. 00:43:04,082 --> 00:43:07,251
  3328. even though you're young. Like the fact
  3329. that you had a goal set for yourself
  3330.  
  3331. 737
  3332. 00:43:07,335 --> 00:43:09,735
  3333. that you would make a movie
  3334. at the same age Orson Welles did.
  3335.  
  3336. 738
  3337. 00:43:09,796 --> 00:43:13,216
  3338. Oh, I wanted... I thought I'd be a failure
  3339. if I didn't make a movie
  3340.  
  3341. 739
  3342. 00:43:13,466 --> 00:43:16,928
  3343. at least by the time I was 25,
  3344. which is when Orson made
  3345.  
  3346. 740
  3347. 00:43:17,261 --> 00:43:21,599
  3348. <i>Citizen Kane,</i> and I was a disaster
  3349. 'cause I didn't make one until I was 27.
  3350.  
  3351. 741
  3352. 00:43:23,643 --> 00:43:26,687
  3353. My films aren't like
  3354. his films, but he inspired me.
  3355.  
  3356. 742
  3357. 00:43:30,108 --> 00:43:32,652
  3358. Their relationship started
  3359. as mentor/mentee.
  3360.  
  3361. 743
  3362. 00:43:32,819 --> 00:43:36,280
  3363. But Peter was at the top
  3364. of an arc of a meteoric rise.
  3365.  
  3366. 744
  3367. 00:43:37,782 --> 00:43:39,575
  3368. You're as successful as you are
  3369.  
  3370. 745
  3371. 00:43:40,326 --> 00:43:43,287
  3372. and you have a gorgeous lady,
  3373. as you do have.
  3374.  
  3375. 746
  3376. 00:43:43,371 --> 00:43:44,539
  3377. Cybill, uh...
  3378.  
  3379. 747
  3380. 00:43:44,622 --> 00:43:46,916
  3381. Yes, let's not discuss what...
  3382. Yes, go ahead.
  3383.  
  3384. 748
  3385. 00:43:46,999 --> 00:43:50,878
  3386. You have her, you have four pictures
  3387. in a row that make 30 million dollars.
  3388.  
  3389. 749
  3390. 00:43:51,629 --> 00:43:53,548
  3391. A guy has to learn to hate you.
  3392.  
  3393. 750
  3394. 00:43:54,882 --> 00:43:57,635
  3395. Bogdanovich had outpaced his mentor.
  3396.  
  3397. 751
  3398. 00:44:02,849 --> 00:44:06,561
  3399. Orson realized, "He has money, I don't.
  3400.  
  3401. 752
  3402. 00:44:06,644 --> 00:44:08,688
  3403. I'm Orson Welles, he's not.
  3404.  
  3405. 753
  3406. 00:44:13,317 --> 00:44:15,653
  3407. - What's wrong?
  3408. - The future.
  3409.  
  3410. 754
  3411. 00:44:16,988 --> 00:44:18,364
  3412. What's the matter with it?
  3413.  
  3414. 755
  3415. 00:44:19,198 --> 00:44:21,450
  3416. We cannot all be masters.
  3417.  
  3418. 756
  3419. 00:44:22,827 --> 00:44:26,706
  3420. Nor all masters cannot be truly followed.
  3421.  
  3422. 757
  3423. 00:44:28,166 --> 00:44:30,501
  3424. I remember,
  3425. we were sitting at lunch one day,
  3426.  
  3427. 758
  3428. 00:44:30,877 --> 00:44:33,004
  3429. and on top of the refrigerator was this
  3430.  
  3431. 759
  3432. 00:44:33,087 --> 00:44:35,882
  3433. industrial size bag of Fritos.
  3434.  
  3435. 760
  3436. 00:44:36,382 --> 00:44:40,469
  3437. Orson tore the top of it off, poured most
  3438. of the contents onto the kitchen table,
  3439.  
  3440. 761
  3441. 00:44:40,636 --> 00:44:43,389
  3442. sat down, took a big bunch of Fritos,
  3443. put it in his mouth.
  3444.  
  3445. 762
  3446. 00:44:44,724 --> 00:44:46,684
  3447. So, of course, I did the same thing.
  3448.  
  3449. 763
  3450. 00:44:50,313 --> 00:44:53,858
  3451. Absolutely out of the blue,
  3452. Orson just turned to me and said,
  3453.  
  3454. 764
  3455. 00:44:53,941 --> 00:44:57,153
  3456. "If anything happens to me, I want you
  3457. to promise me you'll finish the picture."
  3458.  
  3459. 765
  3460. 00:44:57,945 --> 00:45:00,323
  3461. I said, "Oh Jesus, Orson,
  3462. why do you say a thing like that?
  3463.  
  3464. 766
  3465. 00:45:00,448 --> 00:45:02,259
  3466. Nothing’s gonna happen to you.
  3467. Why do you say..."
  3468.  
  3469. 767
  3470. 00:45:02,283 --> 00:45:04,243
  3471. "I know, nothing's gonna happen."
  3472.  
  3473. 768
  3474. 00:45:06,037 --> 00:45:07,637
  3475. Hey, why pick on me?
  3476.  
  3477. 769
  3478. 00:45:08,164 --> 00:45:11,334
  3479. I mean, the man is infested
  3480. with disciples. I'm the apostle, lady.
  3481.  
  3482. 770
  3483. 00:45:12,251 --> 00:45:15,296
  3484. The film deals with the betrayal
  3485. of friendship.
  3486.  
  3487. 771
  3488. 00:45:16,088 --> 00:45:17,548
  3489. Movies and friendship.
  3490.  
  3491. 772
  3492. 00:45:18,174 --> 00:45:19,634
  3493. Those are mysteries.
  3494.  
  3495. 773
  3496. 00:45:20,176 --> 00:45:22,136
  3497. He tested people with that.
  3498.  
  3499. 774
  3500. 00:45:23,429 --> 00:45:27,850
  3501. Betrayal can only come
  3502. if there's an initial love present.
  3503.  
  3504. 775
  3505. 00:45:28,017 --> 00:45:31,062
  3506. - You two are very close, aren't you?
  3507. - Yes, I'd like to ask you about that.
  3508.  
  3509. 776
  3510. 00:45:31,854 --> 00:45:36,734
  3511. Orson created an environment where
  3512. others would get sucked into it.
  3513.  
  3514. 777
  3515. 00:45:37,985 --> 00:45:40,071
  3516. It was all within Orson's control.
  3517.  
  3518. 778
  3519. 00:45:41,113 --> 00:45:43,449
  3520. And he was creating an inevitability.
  3521.  
  3522. 779
  3523. 00:45:43,824 --> 00:45:46,118
  3524. She's gonna say I stole everything
  3525. from you, skipper,
  3526.  
  3527. 780
  3528. 00:45:46,202 --> 00:45:47,828
  3529. I'm never gonna walk away from that.
  3530.  
  3531. 781
  3532. 00:45:47,995 --> 00:45:49,835
  3533. Well, it's all right to borrow
  3534. from each other.
  3535.  
  3536. 782
  3537. 00:45:49,872 --> 00:45:51,832
  3538. What we must never do
  3539. is borrow from ourselves.
  3540.  
  3541. 783
  3542. 00:45:55,503 --> 00:45:57,338
  3543. We winked and nodded at each other,
  3544.  
  3545. 784
  3546. 00:45:57,421 --> 00:45:59,882
  3547. which was like,
  3548. my God, this is going to happen.
  3549.  
  3550. 785
  3551. 00:45:59,966 --> 00:46:02,260
  3552. This inevitability is going to occur.
  3553.  
  3554. 786
  3555. 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,055
  3556. 'Course you're close, you two.
  3557. You have to be.
  3558.  
  3559. 787
  3560. 00:46:07,473 --> 00:46:08,516
  3561. You have no choice.
  3562.  
  3563. 788
  3564. 00:46:12,937 --> 00:46:16,232
  3565. <i>Orson had gone to
  3566. the looking glass and passed beyond it.</i>
  3567.  
  3568. 789
  3569. 00:46:18,067 --> 00:46:21,696
  3570. <i>The story was now being re-written
  3571. in real time.</i>
  3572.  
  3573. 790
  3574. 00:46:24,949 --> 00:46:28,077
  3575. There was a scene in which Hannaford
  3576. comes into the party
  3577.  
  3578. 791
  3579. 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,037
  3580. with a blond teenager on his arm.
  3581.  
  3582. 792
  3583. 00:46:30,162 --> 00:46:31,414
  3584. She was pretty young.
  3585.  
  3586. 793
  3587. 00:46:31,497 --> 00:46:33,249
  3588. What was her name, Mavis Henshaw?
  3589.  
  3590. 794
  3591. 00:46:33,332 --> 00:46:35,793
  3592. - What's your name, sweetie?
  3593. - Mavis Henscher.
  3594.  
  3595. 795
  3596. 00:46:36,085 --> 00:46:39,755
  3597. Actually, she was this little
  3598. waitress we found at a breakfast place.
  3599.  
  3600. 796
  3601. 00:46:39,839 --> 00:46:41,559
  3602. Want me to bring you another scotch?
  3603.  
  3604. 797
  3605. 00:46:42,008 --> 00:46:46,178
  3606. And we just went... “That's Mavis.”
  3607.  
  3608. 798
  3609. 00:46:46,554 --> 00:46:50,224
  3610. She didn't know who Orson Welles was.
  3611. She didn't know who John Huston was.
  3612.  
  3613. 799
  3614. 00:46:51,017 --> 00:46:54,520
  3615. And there were times
  3616. when their combined energies
  3617.  
  3618. 800
  3619. 00:46:54,603 --> 00:46:57,273
  3620. could barely get a performance out of her.
  3621.  
  3622. 801
  3623. 00:46:57,648 --> 00:46:59,984
  3624. - Ready?
  3625. - Thank you. Action.
  3626.  
  3627. 802
  3628. 00:47:00,318 --> 00:47:01,318
  3629. Action!
  3630.  
  3631. 803
  3632. 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,404
  3633. Oh, I thought he was gonna say
  3634. his part first.
  3635.  
  3636. 804
  3637. 00:47:03,487 --> 00:47:04,847
  3638. - You say it.
  3639. - All right.
  3640.  
  3641. 805
  3642. 00:47:05,698 --> 00:47:06,532
  3643. Say it.
  3644.  
  3645. 806
  3646. 00:47:06,657 --> 00:47:09,201
  3647. Gee, I don't know,
  3648. I have school tomo... No, wait.
  3649.  
  3650. 807
  3651. 00:47:09,493 --> 00:47:11,412
  3652. Absolutely dreadful actress.
  3653.  
  3654. 808
  3655. 00:47:12,288 --> 00:47:14,665
  3656. But why would Orson
  3657. wanna do that to himself?
  3658.  
  3659. 809
  3660. 00:47:15,416 --> 00:47:17,752
  3661. She's kind of a Cybill Shepherd take-off.
  3662.  
  3663. 810
  3664. 00:47:18,127 --> 00:47:19,127
  3665. Was she?
  3666.  
  3667. 811
  3668. 00:47:19,628 --> 00:47:20,713
  3669. Oh, okay.
  3670.  
  3671. 812
  3672. 00:47:21,255 --> 00:47:25,343
  3673. Clearly Orson was giving Peter
  3674. a hard time about his relationship
  3675.  
  3676. 813
  3677. 00:47:25,426 --> 00:47:27,803
  3678. with Cybill Shepherd
  3679. after <i>Last Picture Show.</i>
  3680.  
  3681. 814
  3682. 00:47:28,304 --> 00:47:31,140
  3683. Cybill was 19, I think,
  3684. when Peter discovered her.
  3685.  
  3686. 815
  3687. 00:47:32,975 --> 00:47:35,978
  3688. With Orson, you never quite know
  3689. what is gonna happen.
  3690.  
  3691. 816
  3692. 00:47:36,937 --> 00:47:39,273
  3693. Peter said, "Orson's making fun of me
  3694.  
  3695. 817
  3696. 00:47:39,357 --> 00:47:41,317
  3697. and things I've said to Cybill."
  3698.  
  3699. 818
  3700. 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,444
  3701. - Tomorrow's Sunday, Mavis.
  3702. - Pardon?
  3703.  
  3704. 819
  3705. 00:47:43,527 --> 00:47:45,988
  3706. You'll be flying down with us to Mexico.
  3707.  
  3708. 820
  3709. 00:47:46,238 --> 00:47:48,324
  3710. Gee, I don't know,
  3711. I have school on Monday.
  3712.  
  3713. 821
  3714. 00:47:48,866 --> 00:47:50,993
  3715. I'll, uh, write a note to your teacher.
  3716.  
  3717. 822
  3718. 00:47:51,494 --> 00:47:53,496
  3719. That's it.
  3720.  
  3721. 823
  3722. 00:47:55,289 --> 00:47:58,042
  3723. I was supposedly, like, his girlfriend
  3724.  
  3725. 824
  3726. 00:47:58,125 --> 00:48:00,920
  3727. and I was really young,
  3728. and he was very old.
  3729.  
  3730. 825
  3731. 00:48:01,170 --> 00:48:04,173
  3732. He's like, "Mavis! Mavis! Come here!"
  3733.  
  3734. 826
  3735. 00:48:04,256 --> 00:48:06,509
  3736. It was... It was very strange.
  3737.  
  3738. 827
  3739. 00:48:07,093 --> 00:48:10,096
  3740. Mother seems to think a little young blood
  3741. would be good for us.
  3742.  
  3743. 828
  3744. 00:48:10,179 --> 00:48:12,765
  3745. - You could be right at that.
  3746. - Well, she's always right.
  3747.  
  3748. 829
  3749. 00:48:12,848 --> 00:48:15,226
  3750. Excuse me, fellas,
  3751. I think we have a confrontation.
  3752.  
  3753. 830
  3754. 00:48:15,976 --> 00:48:17,395
  3755. - Once again. John?
  3756. - Yeah.
  3757.  
  3758. 831
  3759. 00:48:17,478 --> 00:48:20,356
  3760. You took a look back at the girl
  3761. after "She's always right."
  3762.  
  3763. 832
  3764. 00:48:21,107 --> 00:48:24,110
  3765. Excuse me, fellas,
  3766. I think we have ourselves a confrontation.
  3767.  
  3768. 833
  3769. 00:48:24,902 --> 00:48:29,323
  3770. In this story, Hannaford takes away
  3771. this blond girl from Peter's character
  3772.  
  3773. 834
  3774. 00:48:29,407 --> 00:48:31,450
  3775. who’s kind of a crude, sexual power play.
  3776.  
  3777. 835
  3778. 00:48:31,951 --> 00:48:33,744
  3779. We like your little friend.
  3780.  
  3781. 836
  3782. 00:48:33,869 --> 00:48:35,871
  3783. "We like your little friend."
  3784.  
  3785. 837
  3786. 00:48:35,955 --> 00:48:36,956
  3787. She's mine.
  3788.  
  3789. 838
  3790. 00:48:38,165 --> 00:48:39,500
  3791. - Cut.
  3792. - Again.
  3793.  
  3794. 839
  3795. 00:48:39,583 --> 00:48:40,918
  3796. Again.
  3797.  
  3798. 840
  3799. 00:48:43,129 --> 00:48:44,630
  3800. He thrived on friction.
  3801.  
  3802. 841
  3803. 00:48:45,631 --> 00:48:47,675
  3804. So, the old man can still score.
  3805.  
  3806. 842
  3807. 00:48:48,134 --> 00:48:51,220
  3808. How he scores and who he scores with,
  3809.  
  3810. 843
  3811. 00:48:51,804 --> 00:48:54,515
  3812. now that, my friend, gets us
  3813. into some very interesting country.
  3814.  
  3815. 844
  3816. 00:48:57,852 --> 00:49:01,814
  3817. I think Orson was fascinated
  3818. by this macho thing.
  3819.  
  3820. 845
  3821. 00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:07,069
  3822. It's part of where the concept
  3823. of <i>The Other Side of the Wind</i>
  3824.  
  3825. 846
  3826. 00:49:07,153 --> 00:49:08,446
  3827. was even born.
  3828.  
  3829. 847
  3830. 00:49:09,196 --> 00:49:11,198
  3831. The whole mystique of the, uh...
  3832.  
  3833. 848
  3834. 00:49:11,991 --> 00:49:12,991
  3835. the he-man.
  3836.  
  3837. 849
  3838. 00:49:14,410 --> 00:49:17,913
  3839. This picture we're gonna make
  3840. is against he-men.
  3841.  
  3842. 850
  3843. 00:49:19,123 --> 00:49:21,523
  3844. The initial conception
  3845. of <i>The Other Side of the Wind,</i>
  3846.  
  3847. 851
  3848. 00:49:21,584 --> 00:49:26,046
  3849. that it was gonna be
  3850. a little bit of a satire of an obsessively
  3851.  
  3852. 852
  3853. 00:49:26,505 --> 00:49:29,216
  3854. masculine character, like Hemingway.
  3855.  
  3856. 853
  3857. 00:49:30,217 --> 00:49:33,512
  3858. So, it's no coincidence this film
  3859. takes place July 2nd,
  3860.  
  3861. 854
  3862. 00:49:34,096 --> 00:49:35,556
  3863. the date of Hemingway's death.
  3864.  
  3865. 855
  3866. 00:49:36,182 --> 00:49:40,519
  3867. Hemingway?
  3868. That, uh, left hook of his was overrated.
  3869.  
  3870. 856
  3871. 00:49:41,937 --> 00:49:44,231
  3872. And the character displayed certain
  3873.  
  3874. 857
  3875. 00:49:44,732 --> 00:49:47,359
  3876. tendencies of, perhaps,
  3877. latent homosexuality.
  3878.  
  3879. 858
  3880. 00:49:49,528 --> 00:49:52,507
  3881. He wants to fuck him. He wants to fuck
  3882. his leading man. Don't you see that?
  3883.  
  3884. 859
  3885. 00:49:52,531 --> 00:49:55,784
  3886. Don't you see that there in his movies?
  3887. And he can't acknowledge that.
  3888.  
  3889. 860
  3890. 00:49:56,744 --> 00:50:01,457
  3891. Orson was very comfortable
  3892. with himself and his feminine side.
  3893.  
  3894. 861
  3895. 00:50:02,666 --> 00:50:06,170
  3896. But he could fall
  3897. right into a guy-guy role.
  3898.  
  3899. 862
  3900. 00:50:06,837 --> 00:50:11,759
  3901. I think Orson was always kind
  3902. of interested in that duality in men.
  3903.  
  3904. 863
  3905. 00:50:13,969 --> 00:50:15,969
  3906. You've had so much written about you,
  3907.  
  3908. 864
  3909. 00:50:16,013 --> 00:50:18,599
  3910. and you were so far ahead of your time
  3911. in achievement.
  3912.  
  3913. 865
  3914. 00:50:19,099 --> 00:50:23,687
  3915. Has your success made you less willing
  3916. to challenge than you were in those times?
  3917.  
  3918. 866
  3919. 00:50:23,771 --> 00:50:27,149
  3920. Oh, I think not at all.
  3921. I think I'm much more of a...
  3922.  
  3923. 867
  3924. 00:50:27,566 --> 00:50:29,610
  3925. of a renegade than I was then.
  3926.  
  3927. 868
  3928. 00:50:30,486 --> 00:50:33,280
  3929. - In what way?
  3930. - Oh, in about every way.
  3931.  
  3932. 869
  3933. 00:50:34,949 --> 00:50:37,535
  3934. The best scene I've seen
  3935. in <i>The Other Side of the Wind</i>
  3936.  
  3937. 870
  3938. 00:50:37,618 --> 00:50:40,018
  3939. is the sex scene in the car,
  3940. from the film within the film...
  3941.  
  3942. 871
  3943. 00:50:40,829 --> 00:50:43,832
  3944. which is seven minutes long
  3945. in the version Welles edited.
  3946.  
  3947. 872
  3948. 00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:45,918
  3949. Yes, it's long, long.
  3950.  
  3951. 873
  3952. 00:50:46,210 --> 00:50:49,296
  3953. Everybody talks about the sexy car scene.
  3954.  
  3955. 874
  3956. 00:50:49,964 --> 00:50:53,092
  3957. I remember it having
  3958. quite an impression on me.
  3959.  
  3960. 875
  3961. 00:50:57,137 --> 00:50:59,390
  3962. I remember being in my mid-teens,
  3963.  
  3964. 876
  3965. 00:50:59,515 --> 00:51:02,768
  3966. and having the screening of this footage.
  3967.  
  3968. 877
  3969. 00:51:03,686 --> 00:51:07,856
  3970. The footage of Oja was remarkably erotic.
  3971.  
  3972. 878
  3973. 00:51:09,733 --> 00:51:11,527
  3974. Of her in a car
  3975.  
  3976. 879
  3977. 00:51:11,819 --> 00:51:17,157
  3978. uh, with a hose being poured over the car,
  3979. creating all these droplets and the...
  3980.  
  3981. 880
  3982. 00:51:17,783 --> 00:51:19,952
  3983. the windshield wipers going.
  3984.  
  3985. 881
  3986. 00:51:21,078 --> 00:51:24,957
  3987. The car never moved,
  3988. and they had a couple of guys with hoses.
  3989.  
  3990. 882
  3991. 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,680
  3992. Hundreds of feet of garden hoses.
  3993.  
  3994. 883
  3995. 00:51:26,750 --> 00:51:29,503
  3996. We robbed water from all of his neighbors.
  3997.  
  3998. 884
  3999. 00:51:30,087 --> 00:51:32,423
  4000. I did all the little things on set.
  4001.  
  4002. 885
  4003. 00:51:32,506 --> 00:51:36,927
  4004. And Orson yelled down to me, "Hey kid,
  4005. pick up that hose and make rain."
  4006.  
  4007. 886
  4008. 00:51:38,387 --> 00:51:40,264
  4009. What?
  4010.  
  4011. 887
  4012. 00:51:41,056 --> 00:51:44,476
  4013. One of our paraplegic friends
  4014. was pushed down the road,
  4015.  
  4016. 888
  4017. 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,689
  4018. holding two lights in his hands,
  4019. impersonating car in a motion.
  4020.  
  4021. 889
  4022. 00:51:50,941 --> 00:51:54,945
  4023. The movie inside the movie,
  4024. it's about love, about sex, about desire.
  4025.  
  4026. 890
  4027. 00:51:55,613 --> 00:51:57,906
  4028. It's incredibly hot.
  4029.  
  4030. 891
  4031. 00:51:58,699 --> 00:52:01,035
  4032. And it's unlike anything he'd ever done.
  4033.  
  4034. 892
  4035. 00:52:02,411 --> 00:52:06,165
  4036. His earlier films were rather prudish
  4037. in their treatment of sexuality.
  4038.  
  4039. 893
  4040. 00:52:06,874 --> 00:52:08,754
  4041. He was, he called himself prudish.
  4042.  
  4043. 894
  4044. 00:52:09,460 --> 00:52:11,420
  4045. And he didn't think films needed nudity.
  4046.  
  4047. 895
  4048. 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,088
  4049. Come, Desdemona.
  4050.  
  4051. 896
  4052. 00:52:13,839 --> 00:52:16,342
  4053. I have but an hour of love
  4054. to spend with thee.
  4055.  
  4056. 897
  4057. 00:52:16,884 --> 00:52:19,386
  4058. Orson felt that explicit sexuality
  4059.  
  4060. 898
  4061. 00:52:19,470 --> 00:52:22,264
  4062. was distracting from the art
  4063. in the narrative.
  4064.  
  4065. 899
  4066. 00:52:23,265 --> 00:52:25,726
  4067. He said, "It just shows
  4068. a lack of imagination."
  4069.  
  4070. 900
  4071. 00:52:26,518 --> 00:52:28,228
  4072. He never talked about sex.
  4073.  
  4074. 901
  4075. 00:52:28,771 --> 00:52:30,606
  4076. That's why Oja such a shock.
  4077.  
  4078. 902
  4079. 00:52:32,483 --> 00:52:37,780
  4080. I think the things I contributed
  4081. to his creativity was the eroticism.
  4082.  
  4083. 903
  4084. 00:52:38,197 --> 00:52:39,823
  4085. I introduced the sex.
  4086.  
  4087. 904
  4088. 00:52:48,874 --> 00:52:52,002
  4089. I ask Orson,
  4090. "How do you want me to do this?"
  4091.  
  4092. 905
  4093. 00:52:52,252 --> 00:52:56,674
  4094. "Well," he said, "any way
  4095. you feel like it. It's your story."
  4096.  
  4097. 906
  4098. 00:52:57,299 --> 00:52:59,718
  4099. So, I thought what kind of female
  4100. I should be.
  4101.  
  4102. 907
  4103. 00:53:00,761 --> 00:53:03,222
  4104. So, I decided to be a praying mantis.
  4105.  
  4106. 908
  4107. 00:53:06,725 --> 00:53:08,644
  4108. Wow, my word!
  4109.  
  4110. 909
  4111. 00:53:09,728 --> 00:53:13,816
  4112. She sat on his lap and made love to him
  4113.  
  4114. 910
  4115. 00:53:13,899 --> 00:53:16,735
  4116. while her character's boyfriend
  4117. was driving the car.
  4118.  
  4119. 911
  4120. 00:53:16,985 --> 00:53:19,571
  4121. Her chain beating against her breasts.
  4122.  
  4123. 912
  4124. 00:53:20,781 --> 00:53:24,159
  4125. He ask Oja, “Give animal look.”
  4126.  
  4127. 913
  4128. 00:53:24,660 --> 00:53:27,955
  4129. I still remember the fantastic color,
  4130.  
  4131. 914
  4132. 00:53:28,205 --> 00:53:32,793
  4133. the rhythm, the pulsing rhythm. It’s like
  4134. a cinematic equivalent of an orgasm.
  4135.  
  4136. 915
  4137. 00:53:34,002 --> 00:53:36,463
  4138. But he shot that over,
  4139. like, a three-year period.
  4140.  
  4141. 916
  4142. 00:53:36,922 --> 00:53:39,550
  4143. He shot part of it in his driveway
  4144. in Los Angeles, and then
  4145.  
  4146. 917
  4147. 00:53:40,008 --> 00:53:42,761
  4148. he shot more of it
  4149. in his backyard in France.
  4150.  
  4151. 918
  4152. 00:53:43,470 --> 00:53:47,057
  4153. At one moment,
  4154. it's Gary Graver with false hair,
  4155.  
  4156. 919
  4157. 00:53:47,266 --> 00:53:49,143
  4158. playing the young guy.
  4159.  
  4160. 920
  4161. 00:53:50,477 --> 00:53:54,189
  4162. The film is an exploration
  4163. of Orson's desire.
  4164.  
  4165. 921
  4166. 00:54:01,196 --> 00:54:03,407
  4167. The writer Peter Bartel
  4168.  
  4169. 922
  4170. 00:54:03,574 --> 00:54:05,951
  4171. described <i>The Other Side of the Wind </i>as
  4172.  
  4173. 923
  4174. 00:54:06,285 --> 00:54:10,038
  4175. "a desperate venture
  4176. shared by desperate men."
  4177.  
  4178. 924
  4179. 00:54:12,332 --> 00:54:15,753
  4180. As production lagged on,
  4181. the financiers and the crew
  4182.  
  4183. 925
  4184. 00:54:16,170 --> 00:54:17,337
  4185. became restless.
  4186.  
  4187. 926
  4188. 00:54:21,467 --> 00:54:24,219
  4189. Gary would be pleading with Orson,
  4190. "I gotta eat."
  4191.  
  4192. 927
  4193. 00:54:25,596 --> 00:54:28,766
  4194. Once in a while, Gary would
  4195. actually have to work to make money.
  4196.  
  4197. 928
  4198. 00:54:31,059 --> 00:54:33,437
  4199. Gary would take other jobs in B movies,
  4200.  
  4201. 929
  4202. 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,731
  4203. just so that he could afford
  4204. to work for Orson.
  4205.  
  4206. 930
  4207. 00:54:37,858 --> 00:54:41,111
  4208. He's the only guy I know who
  4209. worked with Orson Welles and Ed Wood.
  4210.  
  4211. 931
  4212. 00:54:41,195 --> 00:54:44,364
  4213. Gary shot this film, <i>One Million AC/DC.</i>
  4214.  
  4215. 932
  4216. 00:54:44,907 --> 00:54:47,659
  4217. It was the world's first
  4218. bisexual dinosaur movie.
  4219.  
  4220. 933
  4221. 00:54:49,953 --> 00:54:51,413
  4222. What's that?
  4223.  
  4224. 934
  4225. 00:54:52,456 --> 00:54:54,792
  4226. Don't worry, it can't eat us in here.
  4227.  
  4228. 935
  4229. 00:54:58,837 --> 00:55:02,966
  4230. It’s not what Gary wanted to have
  4231. as his trademark in his career.
  4232.  
  4233. 936
  4234. 00:55:03,550 --> 00:55:06,428
  4235. <i>The Other Side of the Wind</i> was the film.
  4236.  
  4237. 937
  4238. 00:55:06,804 --> 00:55:09,556
  4239. This was gonna be his claim to fame.
  4240. This is the one that would
  4241.  
  4242. 938
  4243. 00:55:09,723 --> 00:55:11,141
  4244. take him to new heights.
  4245.  
  4246. 939
  4247. 00:55:11,266 --> 00:55:15,062
  4248. Orson said, "Gary, if you get a job
  4249. on another movie, you come to me.
  4250.  
  4251. 940
  4252. 00:55:15,771 --> 00:55:18,649
  4253. If I need you, you can't do it."
  4254.  
  4255. 941
  4256. 00:55:19,858 --> 00:55:24,530
  4257. Ultimately, I think he found the
  4258. easiest path towards making all this work
  4259.  
  4260. 942
  4261. 00:55:24,988 --> 00:55:26,573
  4262. was to do adult films.
  4263.  
  4264. 943
  4265. 00:55:27,282 --> 00:55:29,535
  4266. Gary did a lot of porn.
  4267.  
  4268. 944
  4269. 00:55:29,868 --> 00:55:33,664
  4270. Hundred or so films that he never
  4271. wanted to have his name associated with,
  4272.  
  4273. 945
  4274. 00:55:33,997 --> 00:55:36,166
  4275. he worked under an assumed name.
  4276.  
  4277. 946
  4278. 00:55:36,542 --> 00:55:37,918
  4279. Akdov Telmig.
  4280.  
  4281. 947
  4282. 00:55:38,418 --> 00:55:40,921
  4283. That's "vodka gimlet" spelled backwards.
  4284.  
  4285. 948
  4286. 00:55:42,130 --> 00:55:45,217
  4287. He was shooting these
  4288. semi-porn movies
  4289.  
  4290. 949
  4291. 00:55:45,300 --> 00:55:50,430
  4292. and he asked me if I wanted to be a part
  4293. of this one called<i> 3 A.M.</i>
  4294.  
  4295. 950
  4296. 00:55:50,973 --> 00:55:53,892
  4297. I think that was...
  4298. it had pornographic elements to it.
  4299.  
  4300. 951
  4301. 00:55:55,811 --> 00:55:59,523
  4302. And Orson knew that this was important
  4303. to Gary, to get this movie done,
  4304.  
  4305. 952
  4306. 00:55:59,606 --> 00:56:00,816
  4307. so he wanted to help him.
  4308.  
  4309. 953
  4310. 00:56:03,402 --> 00:56:06,905
  4311. He came over and he was at Gary's house,
  4312. and they cut it together.
  4313.  
  4314. 954
  4315. 00:56:08,490 --> 00:56:11,535
  4316. And Orson ended up
  4317. cutting the shower scene, yeah.
  4318.  
  4319. 955
  4320. 00:56:11,743 --> 00:56:12,743
  4321. Yeah.
  4322.  
  4323. 956
  4324. 00:56:12,828 --> 00:56:13,996
  4325. Excuse me.
  4326.  
  4327. 957
  4328. 00:56:14,788 --> 00:56:17,207
  4329. - Oh!
  4330. - Yeah, it's totally true.
  4331.  
  4332. 958
  4333. 00:56:19,501 --> 00:56:23,881
  4334. Orson was very decisive. He was very like,
  4335. "Okay, we need to cut here, we go there."
  4336.  
  4337. 959
  4338. 00:56:23,964 --> 00:56:25,883
  4339. There was no pharumphing around.
  4340.  
  4341. 960
  4342. 00:56:25,966 --> 00:56:27,846
  4343. It was like, "I need to get this
  4344. off the docket,
  4345.  
  4346. 961
  4347. 00:56:27,885 --> 00:56:29,595
  4348. so I can get Gary back to work again."
  4349.  
  4350. 962
  4351. 00:56:31,263 --> 00:56:32,723
  4352. Gary's work never ended.
  4353.  
  4354. 963
  4355. 00:56:34,224 --> 00:56:36,351
  4356. He got worn down on it, for sure.
  4357.  
  4358. 964
  4359. 00:56:37,102 --> 00:56:38,854
  4360. I think there were two occasions
  4361.  
  4362. 965
  4363. 00:56:39,187 --> 00:56:42,065
  4364. that he was hospitalized for exhaustion.
  4365.  
  4366. 966
  4367. 00:56:42,691 --> 00:56:45,319
  4368. He just physically was collapsing.
  4369.  
  4370. 967
  4371. 00:56:46,361 --> 00:56:48,363
  4372. Now, Gary. Gary?
  4373.  
  4374. 968
  4375. 00:56:50,574 --> 00:56:52,894
  4376. - You all right, Gary?
  4377. - You feel all right?
  4378.  
  4379. 969
  4380. 00:56:52,993 --> 00:56:54,161
  4381. Yeah, I'm all right.
  4382.  
  4383. 970
  4384. 00:56:57,164 --> 00:57:00,417
  4385. I think he might have thrown
  4386. the towel in with any other director.
  4387.  
  4388. 971
  4389. 00:57:01,293 --> 00:57:04,463
  4390. And he would try. He would tell Orson,
  4391.  
  4392. 972
  4393. 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,382
  4394. "I can't." But somehow,
  4395.  
  4396. 973
  4397. 00:57:07,883 --> 00:57:11,803
  4398. Orson would always find a way
  4399. to get him to change his mind.
  4400.  
  4401. 974
  4402. 00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:15,098
  4403. The costs were tremendous.
  4404.  
  4405. 975
  4406. 00:57:15,265 --> 00:57:18,602
  4407. You don't go through
  4408. multiple divorces unscathed.
  4409.  
  4410. 976
  4411. 00:57:20,812 --> 00:57:22,689
  4412. Orson would push you
  4413.  
  4414. 977
  4415. 00:57:22,898 --> 00:57:26,485
  4416. to the point where you said,
  4417. "Fuck you, fat man,
  4418.  
  4419. 978
  4420. 00:57:26,568 --> 00:57:29,947
  4421. and take that legend
  4422. and shove it where the sun don't shine."
  4423.  
  4424. 979
  4425. 00:57:30,030 --> 00:57:31,782
  4426. And just at that moment,
  4427.  
  4428. 980
  4429. 00:57:32,115 --> 00:57:34,534
  4430. where he could feel
  4431. that he had gone too far,
  4432.  
  4433. 981
  4434. 00:57:35,410 --> 00:57:38,622
  4435. he would wrap his arm around you
  4436. and basically say,
  4437.  
  4438. 982
  4439. 00:57:38,705 --> 00:57:42,125
  4440. "Have I told you what a great job
  4441. you've been doing for me lately?"
  4442.  
  4443. 983
  4444. 00:57:44,753 --> 00:57:48,340
  4445. There's no doubt about it that he
  4446. seemed to be doing everything he could
  4447.  
  4448. 984
  4449. 00:57:48,465 --> 00:57:51,093
  4450. to alienate as many people as possible.
  4451.  
  4452. 985
  4453. 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,762
  4454. But why? What is all that about?
  4455.  
  4456. 986
  4457. 00:57:54,388 --> 00:57:55,597
  4458. It's strange.
  4459.  
  4460. 987
  4461. 00:57:57,683 --> 00:58:01,269
  4462. I fear dying
  4463. before I have accomplished something
  4464.  
  4465. 988
  4466. 00:58:01,895 --> 00:58:02,895
  4467. that I'm...
  4468.  
  4469. 989
  4470. 00:58:03,522 --> 00:58:06,817
  4471. not ashamed of, that I'm even
  4472. a little proud of. I'm afraid...
  4473.  
  4474. 990
  4475. 00:58:07,401 --> 00:58:10,570
  4476. that I will be taken away
  4477. before I have justified
  4478.  
  4479. 991
  4480. 00:58:10,988 --> 00:58:13,240
  4481. the luck and joy that I've had.
  4482.  
  4483. 992
  4484. 00:58:17,869 --> 00:58:19,246
  4485. Relax totally.
  4486.  
  4487. 993
  4488. 00:58:19,871 --> 00:58:21,957
  4489. Relax your face, sad, empty.
  4490.  
  4491. 994
  4492. 00:58:22,207 --> 00:58:25,711
  4493. Empty. Now say, "Many happy returns,"
  4494. so I hardly hear you.
  4495.  
  4496. 995
  4497. 00:58:26,837 --> 00:58:28,839
  4498. Many happy returns.
  4499.  
  4500. 996
  4501. 00:58:28,922 --> 00:58:30,549
  4502. You pronounced it too carefully.
  4503.  
  4504. 997
  4505. 00:58:33,427 --> 00:58:35,303
  4506. Many happy returns.
  4507.  
  4508. 998
  4509. 00:58:43,061 --> 00:58:44,061
  4510. There is a...
  4511.  
  4512. 999
  4513. 00:58:44,396 --> 00:58:48,066
  4514. inconclusiveness, or a lack of definition
  4515.  
  4516. 1000
  4517. 00:58:48,608 --> 00:58:51,945
  4518. that is basic to this effort of Orson's.
  4519.  
  4520. 1001
  4521. 00:58:53,822 --> 00:58:56,533
  4522. You know, was it some sort
  4523. of endless odyssey?
  4524.  
  4525. 1002
  4526. 00:58:57,451 --> 00:58:58,702
  4527. We'll never know.
  4528.  
  4529. 1003
  4530. 00:59:00,787 --> 00:59:03,582
  4531. Orson knew what he wanted. He knew.
  4532.  
  4533. 1004
  4534. 00:59:03,665 --> 00:59:05,292
  4535. - Take 21.
  4536. - Action.
  4537.  
  4538. 1005
  4539. 00:59:05,375 --> 00:59:06,960
  4540. What happened to the lights?
  4541.  
  4542. 1006
  4543. 00:59:07,044 --> 00:59:09,921
  4544. But, unless you have a brain
  4545. that works like that,
  4546.  
  4547. 1007
  4548. 00:59:10,422 --> 00:59:12,174
  4549. how does anyone else know?
  4550.  
  4551. 1008
  4552. 00:59:16,928 --> 00:59:20,223
  4553. It was this circus of scattered souls.
  4554.  
  4555. 1009
  4556. 00:59:21,475 --> 00:59:23,977
  4557. We were totally out of reality.
  4558.  
  4559. 1010
  4560. 00:59:24,603 --> 00:59:26,104
  4561. What was happening on the set
  4562.  
  4563. 1011
  4564. 00:59:26,188 --> 00:59:29,316
  4565. was so much like what was happening
  4566. in the movie.
  4567.  
  4568. 1012
  4569. 00:59:29,691 --> 00:59:32,235
  4570. It was like, "Wait a minute.
  4571. That's Orson.
  4572.  
  4573. 1013
  4574. 00:59:32,319 --> 00:59:36,114
  4575. Is it? Orson, is that you?"
  4576. "No, that's John Huston. It's not me."
  4577.  
  4578. 1014
  4579. 00:59:37,824 --> 00:59:39,701
  4580. John didn't know what Orson was doing.
  4581.  
  4582. 1015
  4583. 00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:43,330
  4584. He said, "I just can't figure out
  4585. what the hell he's putting together."
  4586.  
  4587. 1016
  4588. 00:59:43,663 --> 00:59:46,383
  4589. Come forward with your matches,
  4590. looking, everybody, quickly.
  4591.  
  4592. 1017
  4593. 00:59:47,709 --> 00:59:50,087
  4594. But it's Orson, it'll be something.
  4595.  
  4596. 1018
  4597. 00:59:50,378 --> 00:59:52,339
  4598. Test one, take one!
  4599.  
  4600. 1019
  4601. 00:59:55,133 --> 00:59:56,593
  4602. Keep moving here.
  4603.  
  4604. 1020
  4605. 01:00:01,723 --> 01:00:05,936
  4606. One night in particular,
  4607. I was listening to John and Orson,
  4608.  
  4609. 1021
  4610. 01:00:06,436 --> 01:00:10,107
  4611. and John was saying, “What the hell
  4612. is this movie about, Orson?"
  4613.  
  4614. 1022
  4615. 01:00:10,565 --> 01:00:13,985
  4616. And Orson said,
  4617. "It's about a miserable prick.
  4618.  
  4619. 1023
  4620. 01:00:14,945 --> 01:00:17,322
  4621. This is his swan song.
  4622.  
  4623. 1024
  4624. 01:00:18,031 --> 01:00:19,616
  4625. It's about us."
  4626.  
  4627. 1025
  4628. 01:00:22,869 --> 01:00:26,748
  4629. My father felt that film was
  4630. a sort of slightly vulgar art-form.
  4631.  
  4632. 1026
  4633. 01:00:27,624 --> 01:00:29,668
  4634. He made one for them and one for himself,
  4635.  
  4636. 1027
  4637. 01:00:30,085 --> 01:00:32,796
  4638. and was able to play the system,
  4639.  
  4640. 1028
  4641. 01:00:33,296 --> 01:00:35,006
  4642. more like a poker player.
  4643.  
  4644. 1029
  4645. 01:00:35,090 --> 01:00:37,217
  4646. Orson couldn't have been
  4647. more different, yeah.
  4648.  
  4649. 1030
  4650. 01:00:38,927 --> 01:00:41,346
  4651. My father was such a perfectionist,
  4652.  
  4653. 1031
  4654. 01:00:41,888 --> 01:00:44,474
  4655. and movies were his canvas.
  4656.  
  4657. 1032
  4658. 01:00:44,975 --> 01:00:48,186
  4659. Every shot of my father's movies
  4660. are a painting.
  4661.  
  4662. 1033
  4663. 01:00:50,814 --> 01:00:54,568
  4664. And Orson's line was that Huston
  4665. was willing to sell out.
  4666.  
  4667. 1034
  4668. 01:00:55,527 --> 01:00:57,988
  4669. I kept waiting for my big scene
  4670. with John Huston,
  4671.  
  4672. 1035
  4673. 01:00:58,238 --> 01:01:00,657
  4674. the one time he was supposed
  4675. to really interact with me.
  4676.  
  4677. 1036
  4678. 01:01:01,449 --> 01:01:03,869
  4679. One day, we were shooting and I said,
  4680.  
  4681. 1037
  4682. 01:01:03,952 --> 01:01:05,912
  4683. "Where's John?"
  4684. He hadn't been around for a while,
  4685.  
  4686. 1038
  4687. 01:01:05,954 --> 01:01:08,754
  4688. and one of the crew said, "He's off
  4689. making some little film somewhere."
  4690.  
  4691. 1039
  4692. 01:01:12,919 --> 01:01:15,881
  4693. It was a huge success.
  4694.  
  4695. 1040
  4696. 01:01:16,214 --> 01:01:18,925
  4697. “Masterpiece,” they called it.
  4698.  
  4699. 1041
  4700. 01:01:20,051 --> 01:01:23,471
  4701. It was wonderful for my father.
  4702. A Kipling story
  4703.  
  4704. 1042
  4705. 01:01:23,555 --> 01:01:27,517
  4706. in the Atlas Mountains was heaven,
  4707. heaven on earth.
  4708.  
  4709. 1043
  4710. 01:01:28,268 --> 01:01:30,187
  4711. But to think that, at that moment,
  4712.  
  4713. 1044
  4714. 01:01:31,188 --> 01:01:36,526
  4715. the industry is not paying the same amount
  4716. of respect to Welles is sad.
  4717.  
  4718. 1045
  4719. 01:01:43,366 --> 01:01:45,994
  4720. He once turned to me and he said,
  4721.  
  4722. 1046
  4723. 01:01:47,037 --> 01:01:50,123
  4724. <i>"Citizen Kane</i> is the greatest curse
  4725. of my life.
  4726.  
  4727. 1047
  4728. 01:01:51,041 --> 01:01:52,834
  4729. Every time I do anything,
  4730.  
  4731. 1048
  4732. 01:01:54,002 --> 01:01:57,631
  4733. people start comparing this to where
  4734. it stands vis-à-vis
  4735.  
  4736. 1049
  4737. 01:01:57,714 --> 01:02:00,008
  4738. what they call
  4739. the greatest American movie.
  4740.  
  4741. 1050
  4742. 01:02:00,467 --> 01:02:01,468
  4743. This is my curse."
  4744.  
  4745. 1051
  4746. 01:02:03,803 --> 01:02:07,933
  4747. No other director has ever been held up
  4748. to such an impossible standard.
  4749.  
  4750. 1052
  4751. 01:02:10,977 --> 01:02:15,190
  4752. What <i>The Other Side of the Wind</i> is about
  4753. is, in a sense, a bookend
  4754.  
  4755. 1053
  4756. 01:02:15,482 --> 01:02:18,193
  4757. to <i>Citizen Kane,</i>
  4758. about the tragic end of...
  4759.  
  4760. 1054
  4761. 01:02:19,152 --> 01:02:20,987
  4762. somebody who had become great...
  4763.  
  4764. 1055
  4765. 01:02:22,364 --> 01:02:24,574
  4766. and then had lost his place in America.
  4767.  
  4768. 1056
  4769. 01:02:26,243 --> 01:02:27,403
  4770. Well, you know,
  4771.  
  4772. 1057
  4773. 01:02:28,662 --> 01:02:29,871
  4774. Orson said...
  4775.  
  4776. 1058
  4777. 01:02:33,708 --> 01:02:35,710
  4778. "No story has a happy ending,
  4779.  
  4780. 1059
  4781. 01:02:36,086 --> 01:02:38,546
  4782. unless you stop telling it
  4783. before it's over with."
  4784.  
  4785. 1060
  4786. 01:02:40,924 --> 01:02:43,093
  4787. The tragedy of
  4788. <i>The Other Side of the Wind</i>
  4789.  
  4790. 1061
  4791. 01:02:43,176 --> 01:02:45,470
  4792. started with Andrés Vicente Gómez.
  4793.  
  4794. 1062
  4795. 01:02:46,137 --> 01:02:48,265
  4796. He was our Spanish co-producer.
  4797.  
  4798. 1063
  4799. 01:02:49,849 --> 01:02:52,769
  4800. I'm not sure how much I can say
  4801. about this without getting into...
  4802.  
  4803. 1064
  4804. 01:02:53,061 --> 01:02:55,563
  4805. um... muddy legal waters.
  4806.  
  4807. 1065
  4808. 01:02:56,231 --> 01:02:59,818
  4809. Yeah, I was there and I really,
  4810. to this day, don't know...
  4811.  
  4812. 1066
  4813. 01:02:59,901 --> 01:03:02,821
  4814. Whoa... Oh, wait a minute. I do know.
  4815.  
  4816. 1067
  4817. 01:03:02,946 --> 01:03:04,656
  4818. Oh, this story I can't tell.
  4819.  
  4820. 1068
  4821. 01:03:07,701 --> 01:03:12,289
  4822. Andrés Gómez had supposedly put up
  4823. a couple of hundred thousand dollars
  4824.  
  4825. 1069
  4826. 01:03:12,372 --> 01:03:15,166
  4827. towards production costs
  4828. on <i>The Other Side of the Wind,</i>
  4829.  
  4830. 1070
  4831. 01:03:15,250 --> 01:03:19,546
  4832. and was on the set. He left,
  4833. and we were told that
  4834.  
  4835. 1071
  4836. 01:03:19,629 --> 01:03:23,383
  4837. he was going to pick up
  4838. the next tranche of investment,
  4839.  
  4840. 1072
  4841. 01:03:23,508 --> 01:03:26,344
  4842. something in the order
  4843. of a quarter of a million dollars.
  4844.  
  4845. 1073
  4846. 01:03:27,137 --> 01:03:30,432
  4847. We were running out of cash
  4848. and we kept, "Where's Andrés?
  4849.  
  4850. 1074
  4851. 01:03:30,515 --> 01:03:33,351
  4852. Where's Andrés? When is he coming back?"
  4853. Well, he never did come back.
  4854.  
  4855. 1075
  4856. 01:03:38,023 --> 01:03:41,063
  4857. I've heard that he vanished with some
  4858. money, but I don't know if that's true.
  4859.  
  4860. 1076
  4861. 01:03:41,109 --> 01:03:43,403
  4862. I don't know... He may have vanished
  4863. with his own money.
  4864.  
  4865. 1077
  4866. 01:03:44,738 --> 01:03:47,338
  4867. The problem is everybody
  4868. got their information from Orson.
  4869.  
  4870. 1078
  4871. 01:03:48,366 --> 01:03:51,286
  4872. Nobody has direct evidence
  4873. of how the money disappeared.
  4874.  
  4875. 1079
  4876. 01:03:52,912 --> 01:03:56,333
  4877. I read that he blamed me
  4878. 'cause of the finance fiasco,
  4879.  
  4880. 1080
  4881. 01:03:56,583 --> 01:03:58,209
  4882. which is totally untrue.
  4883.  
  4884. 1081
  4885. 01:03:59,085 --> 01:04:00,670
  4886. I made a settlement with him.
  4887.  
  4888. 1082
  4889. 01:04:00,754 --> 01:04:03,798
  4890. There was no complaint,
  4891. there was no anything.
  4892.  
  4893. 1083
  4894. 01:04:04,924 --> 01:04:07,886
  4895. If it was true, why didn't they make
  4896. any claim to me, you know?
  4897.  
  4898. 1084
  4899. 01:04:10,472 --> 01:04:13,224
  4900. It created chaos. I mean,
  4901. suddenly we're not filming.
  4902.  
  4903. 1085
  4904. 01:04:14,184 --> 01:04:16,686
  4905. And then we're even blaming each other.
  4906.  
  4907. 1086
  4908. 01:04:19,189 --> 01:04:21,608
  4909. You can imagine what happens to morale.
  4910.  
  4911. 1087
  4912. 01:04:27,322 --> 01:04:30,241
  4913. And then we're just all sorta,
  4914. "What's Orson gonna do?"
  4915.  
  4916. 1088
  4917. 01:04:33,578 --> 01:04:34,578
  4918. Mark it.
  4919.  
  4920. 1089
  4921. 01:04:36,623 --> 01:04:37,623
  4922. Go!
  4923.  
  4924. 1090
  4925. 01:04:38,833 --> 01:04:42,170
  4926. Orson certainly was having trouble
  4927. getting the film finished,
  4928.  
  4929. 1091
  4930. 01:04:42,379 --> 01:04:46,466
  4931. and when the production
  4932. had to move to Los Angeles
  4933.  
  4934. 1092
  4935. 01:04:46,925 --> 01:04:51,388
  4936. and needed interiors that could work
  4937. to double the Arizona house,
  4938.  
  4939. 1093
  4940. 01:04:51,596 --> 01:04:55,350
  4941. Peter had Orson move into his house
  4942. in Beverly Hills to shoot there.
  4943.  
  4944. 1094
  4945. 01:04:56,976 --> 01:04:59,776
  4946. What happened is, I think Orson
  4947. sort of took advantage of that.
  4948.  
  4949. 1095
  4950. 01:04:59,813 --> 01:05:02,065
  4951. Peter told Orson
  4952. he could stay at his house
  4953.  
  4954. 1096
  4955. 01:05:02,148 --> 01:05:04,567
  4956. for maybe two, three weeks a month.
  4957.  
  4958. 1097
  4959. 01:05:05,068 --> 01:05:05,902
  4960. Right on!
  4961.  
  4962. 1098
  4963. 01:05:05,985 --> 01:05:08,113
  4964. Well, he stayed on and off
  4965. for three years.
  4966.  
  4967. 1099
  4968. 01:05:09,155 --> 01:05:10,073
  4969. Right on!
  4970.  
  4971. 1100
  4972. 01:05:10,156 --> 01:05:13,326
  4973. Peter and Cybill Shepherd
  4974. were living in the east wing.
  4975.  
  4976. 1101
  4977. 01:05:13,868 --> 01:05:15,412
  4978. It was a very large house.
  4979.  
  4980. 1102
  4981. 01:05:16,121 --> 01:05:17,247
  4982. And he ate a lot.
  4983.  
  4984. 1103
  4985. 01:05:19,332 --> 01:05:23,002
  4986. Ah, the French champagne...
  4987.  
  4988. 1104
  4989. 01:05:23,753 --> 01:05:26,548
  4990. has always been celebrated
  4991. for its excellence.
  4992.  
  4993. 1105
  4994. 01:05:27,382 --> 01:05:29,110
  4995. Fudgsicles!
  4996.  
  4997. 1106
  4998. 01:05:29,134 --> 01:05:30,885
  4999. He had to have them all the time.
  5000.  
  5001. 1107
  5002. 01:05:30,969 --> 01:05:34,013
  5003. He got very angry
  5004. if there were no Fudgsicles.
  5005.  
  5006. 1108
  5007. 01:05:34,973 --> 01:05:37,684
  5008. And I had strict orders
  5009. never to disturb him.
  5010.  
  5011. 1109
  5012. 01:05:38,977 --> 01:05:40,645
  5013. And then I smell smoke one day.
  5014.  
  5015. 1110
  5016. 01:05:41,646 --> 01:05:43,231
  5017. He was in the downstairs guest room.
  5018.  
  5019. 1111
  5020. 01:05:43,314 --> 01:05:45,859
  5021. And I followed it down
  5022. up to the door and tap-tap-tap,
  5023.  
  5024. 1112
  5025. 01:05:45,942 --> 01:05:47,527
  5026. "Orson, is everything okay?"
  5027.  
  5028. 1113
  5029. 01:05:47,944 --> 01:05:49,864
  5030. "Yes, it's taken care of."
  5031.  
  5032. 1114
  5033. 01:05:51,448 --> 01:05:53,616
  5034. He'd put a lit cigar in his robe pocket.
  5035.  
  5036. 1115
  5037. 01:05:55,076 --> 01:05:56,286
  5038. He was miserable.
  5039.  
  5040. 1116
  5041. 01:05:56,911 --> 01:05:59,539
  5042. He was never as fat as he was then.
  5043.  
  5044. 1117
  5045. 01:05:59,956 --> 01:06:01,875
  5046. And it was because of the movie.
  5047.  
  5048. 1118
  5049. 01:06:02,876 --> 01:06:05,086
  5050. Over time,
  5051. Peter gave more to Orson
  5052.  
  5053. 1119
  5054. 01:06:05,170 --> 01:06:07,547
  5055. than he ever imagined
  5056. he was going to give.
  5057.  
  5058. 1120
  5059. 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,926
  5060. Don't give up the ship, eh, Brooksie?
  5061.  
  5062. 1121
  5063. 01:06:12,093 --> 01:06:13,303
  5064. I'm not.
  5065.  
  5066. 1122
  5067. 01:06:14,804 --> 01:06:17,140
  5068. It's really embarrassing
  5069. because he's broke.
  5070.  
  5071. 1123
  5072. 01:06:18,141 --> 01:06:19,601
  5073. Don't think I'm not ready to...
  5074.  
  5075. 1124
  5076. 01:06:21,728 --> 01:06:24,314
  5077. Don't think I'm not ready
  5078. to put up a fight for you.
  5079.  
  5080. 1125
  5081. 01:06:25,940 --> 01:06:28,568
  5082. I think, for a long time,
  5083. you could sort of justify,
  5084.  
  5085. 1126
  5086. 01:06:28,651 --> 01:06:30,862
  5087. "Well, Orson needs me.
  5088.  
  5089. 1127
  5090. 01:06:32,113 --> 01:06:35,408
  5091. I'm helping him, maybe something good
  5092. will come out of it."
  5093.  
  5094. 1128
  5095. 01:06:37,202 --> 01:06:38,745
  5096. It's you I'm thinking of.
  5097.  
  5098. 1129
  5099. 01:06:40,163 --> 01:06:42,415
  5100. - God, I don't...
  5101. - Don't touch anything.
  5102.  
  5103. 1130
  5104. 01:06:43,249 --> 01:06:46,169
  5105. "It's you I'm thinking of."
  5106. Right into the door, that one.
  5107.  
  5108. 1131
  5109. 01:06:47,504 --> 01:06:49,130
  5110. It's you I'm thinking of.
  5111.  
  5112. 1132
  5113. 01:06:50,256 --> 01:06:53,176
  5114. At a certain point, it was like,
  5115. it should be time for Orson to...
  5116.  
  5117. 1133
  5118. 01:06:53,384 --> 01:06:56,221
  5119. to go, but Orson's not going,
  5120. and how do I sorta...
  5121.  
  5122. 1134
  5123. 01:06:56,888 --> 01:06:58,598
  5124. try to tell him to do that?
  5125.  
  5126. 1135
  5127. 01:07:02,018 --> 01:07:05,855
  5128. We who somehow glow
  5129. a little in his light...
  5130.  
  5131. 1136
  5132. 01:07:07,690 --> 01:07:08,775
  5133. the fireflies,
  5134.  
  5135. 1137
  5136. 01:07:09,442 --> 01:07:11,903
  5137. he does quite often swallow whole.
  5138.  
  5139. 1138
  5140. 01:07:13,363 --> 01:07:17,200
  5141. It's a fact that some of us,
  5142. he chews on rather slowly.
  5143.  
  5144. 1139
  5145. 01:07:20,370 --> 01:07:21,370
  5146. Cut.
  5147.  
  5148. 1140
  5149. 01:07:25,458 --> 01:07:27,669
  5150. <i>Orson commandeered Peter's screening room</i>
  5151.  
  5152. 1141
  5153. 01:07:27,752 --> 01:07:29,712
  5154. <i>and turned it into his editing suite.</i>
  5155.  
  5156. 1142
  5157. 01:07:30,380 --> 01:07:32,966
  5158. <i>There he worked all hours,
  5159. piecing together</i>
  5160.  
  5161. 1143
  5162. 01:07:33,466 --> 01:07:34,551
  5163. The Wind.
  5164.  
  5165. 1144
  5166. 01:07:37,262 --> 01:07:38,805
  5167. This is a Moviola.
  5168.  
  5169. 1145
  5170. 01:07:39,305 --> 01:07:42,725
  5171. It's a machine for editing film.
  5172.  
  5173. 1146
  5174. 01:07:43,893 --> 01:07:46,729
  5175. Orson decided
  5176. on a completely new approach.
  5177.  
  5178. 1147
  5179. 01:07:46,813 --> 01:07:48,147
  5180. Orson cut it.
  5181.  
  5182. 1148
  5183. 01:07:48,439 --> 01:07:51,693
  5184. He cut it, every take, in a lot of parts
  5185.  
  5186. 1149
  5187. 01:07:51,776 --> 01:07:53,903
  5188. - and he reconstruct it.
  5189. - Action!
  5190.  
  5191. 1150
  5192. 01:07:54,571 --> 01:07:55,571
  5193. Curtain.
  5194.  
  5195. 1151
  5196. 01:07:55,822 --> 01:07:57,448
  5197. - Curtain.
  5198. - A film is...
  5199.  
  5200. 1152
  5201. 01:07:57,991 --> 01:07:59,325
  5202. never right
  5203.  
  5204. 1153
  5205. 01:07:59,784 --> 01:08:01,744
  5206. until it's right musically.
  5207.  
  5208. 1154
  5209. 01:08:02,620 --> 01:08:05,790
  5210. - I ended up working as an editor.
  5211. - Cut!
  5212.  
  5213. 1155
  5214. 01:08:06,291 --> 01:08:09,961
  5215. I spent six months on what I call
  5216. the bathroom orgy scene.
  5217.  
  5218. 1156
  5219. 01:08:11,004 --> 01:08:12,297
  5220. There were 500 edits.
  5221.  
  5222. 1157
  5223. 01:08:12,797 --> 01:08:17,677
  5224. And I spent six months with him editing
  5225. two frames here, five frames here, six...
  5226.  
  5227. 1158
  5228. 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,764
  5229. He kept editing it a little bit more
  5230. and a little bit more.
  5231.  
  5232. 1159
  5233. 01:08:24,559 --> 01:08:26,639
  5234. His whole concept
  5235. of <i>The Other Side of the Wind</i>
  5236.  
  5237. 1160
  5238. 01:08:26,811 --> 01:08:30,690
  5239. was evolving, that's what he said. I said,
  5240. "Well, how can it be evolving now?"
  5241.  
  5242. 1161
  5243. 01:08:31,649 --> 01:08:33,192
  5244. He said, "It's all in the editing."
  5245.  
  5246. 1162
  5247. 01:08:33,776 --> 01:08:34,902
  5248. I've never forgotten.
  5249.  
  5250. 1163
  5251. 01:08:35,361 --> 01:08:37,238
  5252. "It's all in the editing."
  5253.  
  5254. 1164
  5255. 01:08:39,657 --> 01:08:42,827
  5256. The jigsaw pieces were separated by
  5257.  
  5258. 1165
  5259. 01:08:43,244 --> 01:08:44,704
  5260. breaks in time.
  5261.  
  5262. 1166
  5263. 01:08:44,912 --> 01:08:48,082
  5264. Jesus, with all your troubles,
  5265. what's one lousy leading man?
  5266.  
  5267. 1167
  5268. 01:08:48,291 --> 01:08:51,794
  5269. There was no way for the picture
  5270. to be put together, except in my mind.
  5271.  
  5272. 1168
  5273. 01:08:52,378 --> 01:08:55,006
  5274. Jesus, what's one lousy leading man?
  5275.  
  5276. 1169
  5277. 01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:56,840
  5278. Cut!
  5279.  
  5280. 1170
  5281. 01:09:00,011 --> 01:09:01,771
  5282. It was funny, 'cause,
  5283. after all that,
  5284.  
  5285. 1171
  5286. 01:09:01,846 --> 01:09:04,057
  5287. Orson still wanted Hollywood
  5288. to embrace him.
  5289.  
  5290. 1172
  5291. 01:09:04,974 --> 01:09:06,768
  5292. And I think he thought that the AFI
  5293.  
  5294. 1173
  5295. 01:09:06,851 --> 01:09:09,896
  5296. uh, Life Achievement Award
  5297. was going to be that moment.
  5298.  
  5299. 1174
  5300. 01:09:10,563 --> 01:09:14,275
  5301. The American Film Institute
  5302. presents a salute to Orson Welles.
  5303.  
  5304. 1175
  5305. 01:09:15,276 --> 01:09:17,612
  5306. I was the Founding Director
  5307. of the AFI.
  5308.  
  5309. 1176
  5310. 01:09:17,695 --> 01:09:19,697
  5311. I started the Life Achievement Awards.
  5312.  
  5313. 1177
  5314. 01:09:19,781 --> 01:09:21,621
  5315. To salute an outstanding individual
  5316.  
  5317. 1178
  5318. 01:09:21,658 --> 01:09:25,203
  5319. for his lifetime contributions
  5320. to the art of motion pictures.
  5321.  
  5322. 1179
  5323. 01:09:25,411 --> 01:09:29,082
  5324. We concluded that Orson
  5325. should be the next recipient,
  5326.  
  5327. 1180
  5328. 01:09:29,666 --> 01:09:32,585
  5329. but <i>The Other Side of the Wind</i> intruded.
  5330.  
  5331. 1181
  5332. 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:35,463
  5333. Peter was my medium.
  5334.  
  5335. 1182
  5336. 01:09:35,546 --> 01:09:36,815
  5337. Stevens called me.
  5338.  
  5339. 1183
  5340. 01:09:36,839 --> 01:09:38,817
  5341. Peter said, "Orson would like
  5342. to show something
  5343.  
  5344. 1184
  5345. 01:09:38,841 --> 01:09:41,177
  5346. from his new film,
  5347. <i>The Other Side of the Wind."</i>
  5348.  
  5349. 1185
  5350. 01:09:41,678 --> 01:09:42,929
  5351. I said, "Fine."
  5352.  
  5353. 1186
  5354. 01:09:44,597 --> 01:09:48,017
  5355. It was a big deal, because we were trying
  5356. to sell the movie then.
  5357.  
  5358. 1187
  5359. 01:09:48,101 --> 01:09:49,536
  5360. He was trying to sell the film.
  5361.  
  5362. 1188
  5363. 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,789
  5364. He thought he was going to get
  5365. the money to finish it.
  5366.  
  5367. 1189
  5368. 01:09:51,813 --> 01:09:53,648
  5369. Which was not unreasonable,
  5370.  
  5371. 1190
  5372. 01:09:53,940 --> 01:09:56,526
  5373. but it would grow ever more complicated
  5374.  
  5375. 1191
  5376. 01:09:56,734 --> 01:09:58,736
  5377. as we got nearer to the time.
  5378.  
  5379. 1192
  5380. 01:10:00,571 --> 01:10:03,366
  5381. Nobody exceeded Orson in charm
  5382.  
  5383. 1193
  5384. 01:10:03,449 --> 01:10:06,786
  5385. when he turned it on and he came to play.
  5386.  
  5387. 1194
  5388. 01:10:08,788 --> 01:10:10,790
  5389. This was all of Hollywood there.
  5390.  
  5391. 1195
  5392. 01:10:11,374 --> 01:10:15,169
  5393. What a better forum to present
  5394. the movie at? I mean...
  5395.  
  5396. 1196
  5397. 01:10:16,671 --> 01:10:19,525
  5398. Now, how about a look
  5399. at the future of our gifted friend?
  5400.  
  5401. 1197
  5402. 01:10:19,549 --> 01:10:21,092
  5403. <i>The Other Side of the Wind.</i>
  5404.  
  5405. 1198
  5406. 01:10:21,509 --> 01:10:25,430
  5407. It's about a celebration in honor
  5408. of a famous movie director
  5409.  
  5410. 1199
  5411. 01:10:26,222 --> 01:10:27,432
  5412. who is not Orson.
  5413.  
  5414. 1200
  5415. 01:10:28,516 --> 01:10:31,936
  5416. And all of the movie freaks and filmmakers
  5417. in the world are in at this bash
  5418.  
  5419. 1201
  5420. 01:10:32,019 --> 01:10:34,480
  5421. that I'm talking about,
  5422. including a brilliant young director
  5423.  
  5424. 1202
  5425. 01:10:34,772 --> 01:10:38,609
  5426. who, by another coincidence,
  5427. is not Peter Bogdanovich,
  5428.  
  5429. 1203
  5430. 01:10:39,652 --> 01:10:41,279
  5431. but is played by Peter Bogdanovich.
  5432.  
  5433. 1204
  5434. 01:10:43,239 --> 01:10:46,868
  5435. Orson thought the AFI was
  5436. that moment where everyone was going to
  5437.  
  5438. 1205
  5439. 01:10:46,951 --> 01:10:48,619
  5440. give him his just desserts.
  5441.  
  5442. 1206
  5443. 01:10:49,162 --> 01:10:50,997
  5444. This picture is beautiful.
  5445.  
  5446. 1207
  5447. 01:10:51,748 --> 01:10:53,374
  5448. And so are you, dear Orson.
  5449.  
  5450. 1208
  5451. 01:10:58,963 --> 01:11:01,048
  5452. This honor I can only accept
  5453.  
  5454. 1209
  5455. 01:11:01,841 --> 01:11:03,885
  5456. in the name of all the mavericks.
  5457.  
  5458. 1210
  5459. 01:11:05,219 --> 01:11:06,971
  5460. And don't imagine that this
  5461.  
  5462. 1211
  5463. 01:11:07,472 --> 01:11:10,308
  5464. raggle taggle gypsyo
  5465. is claiming to be free.
  5466.  
  5467. 1212
  5468. 01:11:11,267 --> 01:11:14,812
  5469. It's just that some of the necessities
  5470. to which I am a slave
  5471.  
  5472. 1213
  5473. 01:11:15,980 --> 01:11:17,315
  5474. are different from yours.
  5475.  
  5476. 1214
  5477. 01:11:18,024 --> 01:11:20,359
  5478. He was not sucking up to the audience.
  5479.  
  5480. 1215
  5481. 01:11:20,443 --> 01:11:23,070
  5482. He was basically saying,
  5483. "Fuck you," to the audience,
  5484.  
  5485. 1216
  5486. 01:11:23,154 --> 01:11:26,407
  5487. "Why haven't you acknowledged
  5488. my genius today?"
  5489.  
  5490. 1217
  5491. 01:11:26,491 --> 01:11:29,952
  5492. Let us raise our cups then,
  5493.  
  5494. 1218
  5495. 01:11:30,745 --> 01:11:35,041
  5496. standing as some of us do
  5497. on opposite ends of the river,
  5498.  
  5499. 1219
  5500. 01:11:36,209 --> 01:11:37,335
  5501. and drink together
  5502.  
  5503. 1220
  5504. 01:11:38,002 --> 01:11:39,921
  5505. to what really matters to us all.
  5506.  
  5507. 1221
  5508. 01:11:41,214 --> 01:11:44,050
  5509. To our crazy and beloved profession.
  5510.  
  5511. 1222
  5512. 01:11:45,134 --> 01:11:47,428
  5513. To the movies, to good movies.
  5514.  
  5515. 1223
  5516. 01:11:47,929 --> 01:11:49,722
  5517. To every possible kind.
  5518.  
  5519. 1224
  5520. 01:11:52,183 --> 01:11:54,018
  5521. Orson makes a great speech.
  5522.  
  5523. 1225
  5524. 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,980
  5525. And then he worked in
  5526. a clip of his new film.
  5527.  
  5528. 1226
  5529. 01:11:58,314 --> 01:11:59,941
  5530. The scene...
  5531.  
  5532. 1227
  5533. 01:12:00,858 --> 01:12:03,277
  5534. that you're going to see
  5535. takes place in a projection room.
  5536.  
  5537. 1228
  5538. 01:12:03,361 --> 01:12:06,280
  5539. Waiting there is the big studio boss.
  5540.  
  5541. 1229
  5542. 01:12:06,364 --> 01:12:08,157
  5543. The stooge is trying to sell
  5544.  
  5545. 1230
  5546. 01:12:08,574 --> 01:12:12,036
  5547. the unfinished movie that Jake is making,
  5548.  
  5549. 1231
  5550. 01:12:12,745 --> 01:12:14,247
  5551. for which he needs end money.
  5552.  
  5553. 1232
  5554. 01:12:20,378 --> 01:12:21,671
  5555. I just think it was sad.
  5556.  
  5557. 1233
  5558. 01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,882
  5559. He was practically begging for money.
  5560.  
  5561. 1234
  5562. 01:12:27,718 --> 01:12:30,888
  5563. - What happens here?
  5564. - I'm not really sure, Max.
  5565.  
  5566. 1235
  5567. 01:12:31,848 --> 01:12:35,101
  5568. - You... You better ask Jake.
  5569. - I'd better read the script.
  5570.  
  5571. 1236
  5572. 01:12:37,979 --> 01:12:39,146
  5573. There isn't one.
  5574.  
  5575. 1237
  5576. 01:12:43,025 --> 01:12:45,444
  5577. Jake, he’s just making it up
  5578. as he goes along.
  5579.  
  5580. 1238
  5581. 01:12:47,446 --> 01:12:48,823
  5582. He's done it before.
  5583.  
  5584. 1239
  5585. 01:12:54,203 --> 01:12:55,872
  5586. Nobody gave him a dime.
  5587.  
  5588. 1240
  5589. 01:12:59,292 --> 01:13:02,086
  5590. He thought he was going to attract
  5591.  
  5592. 1241
  5593. 01:13:03,087 --> 01:13:06,591
  5594. somebody who would open up the vault
  5595. and say, "Whatever you need."
  5596.  
  5597. 1242
  5598. 01:13:06,841 --> 01:13:08,092
  5599. And he didn't get it.
  5600.  
  5601. 1243
  5602. 01:13:08,676 --> 01:13:11,971
  5603. All right, go home! Who gives a shit?
  5604.  
  5605. 1244
  5606. 01:13:12,263 --> 01:13:16,434
  5607. You stiffs can put all this stuff
  5608. together. We'll have our own movie.
  5609.  
  5610. 1245
  5611. 01:13:17,184 --> 01:13:18,686
  5612. A real movie!
  5613.  
  5614. 1246
  5615. 01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:20,813
  5616. A real movie!
  5617.  
  5618. 1247
  5619. 01:13:23,774 --> 01:13:26,319
  5620. Maybe she just don't love us
  5621. like she used to.
  5622.  
  5623. 1248
  5624. 01:13:28,738 --> 01:13:29,822
  5625. Maybe.
  5626.  
  5627. 1249
  5628. 01:13:31,741 --> 01:13:33,284
  5629. Orson said to me once that,
  5630.  
  5631. 1250
  5632. 01:13:33,367 --> 01:13:37,079
  5633. "Los Angeles is the only city where
  5634. every road leads to the airport.
  5635.  
  5636. 1251
  5637. 01:13:38,414 --> 01:13:41,417
  5638. If you're here, Hollywood can't wait
  5639. to get you out of here."
  5640.  
  5641. 1252
  5642. 01:13:47,465 --> 01:13:51,385
  5643. The clouds around our film
  5644. were gathering from all directions.
  5645.  
  5646. 1253
  5647. 01:13:52,970 --> 01:13:55,932
  5648. The new Hollywood ended around '75.
  5649.  
  5650. 1254
  5651. 01:13:57,433 --> 01:14:00,603
  5652. <i>Star Wars</i> and <i>Jaws</i> were blockbusters,
  5653.  
  5654. 1255
  5655. 01:14:00,937 --> 01:14:05,232
  5656. not personal films,
  5657. and changed the atmosphere.
  5658.  
  5659. 1256
  5660. 01:14:07,193 --> 01:14:08,819
  5661. I did have the chance,
  5662.  
  5663. 1257
  5664. 01:14:08,903 --> 01:14:13,199
  5665. right after the tribute,
  5666. of reviving my career in America.
  5667.  
  5668. 1258
  5669. 01:14:14,533 --> 01:14:16,786
  5670. But it was destroyed by the Iranians.
  5671.  
  5672. 1259
  5673. 01:14:19,163 --> 01:14:20,957
  5674. Iran's Islamic revolution.
  5675.  
  5676. 1260
  5677. 01:14:22,625 --> 01:14:24,752
  5678. Many foreign-owned businesses
  5679.  
  5680. 1261
  5681. 01:14:24,877 --> 01:14:27,463
  5682. and their assets confiscated
  5683. without payment.
  5684.  
  5685. 1262
  5686. 01:14:29,048 --> 01:14:31,550
  5687. Financing got into deep trouble.
  5688.  
  5689. 1263
  5690. 01:14:31,884 --> 01:14:35,388
  5691. The Iranian company,
  5692. they simply shut off the spigot.
  5693.  
  5694. 1264
  5695. 01:14:36,055 --> 01:14:38,140
  5696. You see, the Shah himself
  5697.  
  5698. 1265
  5699. 01:14:38,307 --> 01:14:41,143
  5700. was the brother-in-law of our producer.
  5701.  
  5702. 1266
  5703. 01:14:42,770 --> 01:14:45,272
  5704. When he was overthrown by the Ayatollah...
  5705.  
  5706. 1267
  5707. 01:14:47,316 --> 01:14:51,028
  5708. ...the film was confiscated by somebody...
  5709.  
  5710. 1268
  5711. 01:14:51,487 --> 01:14:55,324
  5712. Well, here it is...
  5713. if anybody wants to see it.
  5714.  
  5715. 1269
  5716. 01:14:55,449 --> 01:14:58,119
  5717. ...and sent to a vault in Paris.
  5718.  
  5719. 1270
  5720. 01:14:59,704 --> 01:15:03,624
  5721. The Iranians attempted to move it
  5722. out of Paris only two months ago.
  5723.  
  5724. 1271
  5725. 01:15:04,834 --> 01:15:07,128
  5726. Orson sued to finish his film.
  5727.  
  5728. 1272
  5729. 01:15:07,670 --> 01:15:09,390
  5730. Then, you know, he got fucked.
  5731.  
  5732. 1273
  5733. 01:15:19,932 --> 01:15:22,518
  5734. The French court locked
  5735. <i>The Other Side of the Wind </i>in a vault.
  5736.  
  5737. 1274
  5738. 01:15:23,060 --> 01:15:25,563
  5739. Orson couldn't have access to the film.
  5740.  
  5741. 1275
  5742. 01:15:44,331 --> 01:15:47,043
  5743. When you hear the cry,
  5744. "Death to the Shah,"
  5745.  
  5746. 1276
  5747. 01:15:49,253 --> 01:15:52,256
  5748. it doesn't come entirely
  5749. from the Iranian people.
  5750.  
  5751. 1277
  5752. 01:15:59,847 --> 01:16:02,433
  5753. Now, pretty much everything was shot
  5754.  
  5755. 1278
  5756. 01:16:03,309 --> 01:16:04,435
  5757. by this time.
  5758.  
  5759. 1279
  5760. 01:16:05,352 --> 01:16:07,229
  5761. And Orson was heartbroken.
  5762.  
  5763. 1280
  5764. 01:16:16,030 --> 01:16:18,032
  5765. I didn't wanna...
  5766. don't wanna be introduced,
  5767.  
  5768. 1281
  5769. 01:16:18,157 --> 01:16:21,702
  5770. because I don't want this to seem
  5771. like a formal occasion.
  5772.  
  5773. 1282
  5774. 01:16:23,162 --> 01:16:25,748
  5775. That stops right now.
  5776.  
  5777. 1283
  5778. 01:16:26,582 --> 01:16:27,958
  5779. Stops right now. Back.
  5780.  
  5781. 1284
  5782. 01:16:28,084 --> 01:16:30,795
  5783. About ten feet,
  5784. you get a much better shot. Zoom.
  5785.  
  5786. 1285
  5787. 01:16:34,090 --> 01:16:36,383
  5788. Sir, my question is a little bit personal.
  5789.  
  5790. 1286
  5791. 01:16:36,634 --> 01:16:40,888
  5792. What are the greatest events of your life
  5793. in relation to your work as a film star?
  5794.  
  5795. 1287
  5796. 01:16:41,555 --> 01:16:43,599
  5797. The greatest moment is always
  5798.  
  5799. 1288
  5800. 01:16:44,391 --> 01:16:46,310
  5801. when you know the money's in the bank.
  5802.  
  5803. 1289
  5804. 01:16:50,523 --> 01:16:53,984
  5805. The point is, you have fallen in love
  5806. with an impossible medium,
  5807.  
  5808. 1290
  5809. 01:16:54,068 --> 01:16:57,530
  5810. because it's so hard to get the money
  5811. for your pictures.
  5812.  
  5813. 1291
  5814. 01:16:57,905 --> 01:17:00,699
  5815. It's so hard to get the distribution.
  5816.  
  5817. 1292
  5818. 01:17:01,492 --> 01:17:03,077
  5819. I believe we should work
  5820.  
  5821. 1293
  5822. 01:17:03,536 --> 01:17:06,330
  5823. in the constant recognition
  5824.  
  5825. 1294
  5826. 01:17:07,289 --> 01:17:10,918
  5827. of the fact that we are lucky
  5828. to be working,
  5829.  
  5830. 1295
  5831. 01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:14,797
  5832. and that our luck is too great
  5833. to confuse it
  5834.  
  5835. 1296
  5836. 01:17:15,214 --> 01:17:17,007
  5837. with ultimate justice.
  5838.  
  5839. 1297
  5840. 01:17:17,675 --> 01:17:21,887
  5841. Particularly,
  5842. since any intelligent person knows
  5843.  
  5844. 1298
  5845. 01:17:22,012 --> 01:17:24,181
  5846. that there is no justice in the world.
  5847.  
  5848. 1299
  5849. 01:17:25,558 --> 01:17:26,767
  5850. Of any kind.
  5851.  
  5852. 1300
  5853. 01:17:29,270 --> 01:17:30,437
  5854. My God, it's vodka.
  5855.  
  5856. 1301
  5857. 01:17:35,359 --> 01:17:36,986
  5858. This...
  5859.  
  5860. 1302
  5861. 01:17:41,365 --> 01:17:44,994
  5862. That's all. Don't go on
  5863. shooting me laughing and saying nothing.
  5864.  
  5865. 1303
  5866. 01:17:45,077 --> 01:17:47,580
  5867. Come on, I don't want...
  5868. I don't want footage of myself...
  5869.  
  5870. 1304
  5871. 01:17:53,335 --> 01:17:55,921
  5872. Sometimes I try to imagine Orson
  5873.  
  5874. 1305
  5875. 01:17:56,046 --> 01:17:58,632
  5876. having different bedrooms
  5877. in different hotels.
  5878.  
  5879. 1306
  5880. 01:17:59,008 --> 01:18:02,887
  5881. And the door to this room is locked.
  5882. And under the bed
  5883.  
  5884. 1307
  5885. 01:18:03,179 --> 01:18:06,515
  5886. are hidden boxes and boxes of film.
  5887.  
  5888. 1308
  5889. 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:08,600
  5890. Who knows?
  5891.  
  5892. 1309
  5893. 01:18:10,311 --> 01:18:12,991
  5894. A number of the things
  5895. you've done, films you've made,
  5896.  
  5897. 1310
  5898. 01:18:13,022 --> 01:18:16,108
  5899. have gone on for a very long time.
  5900. You've come back to them, picked them up.
  5901.  
  5902. 1311
  5903. 01:18:16,192 --> 01:18:19,195
  5904. Yeah, there are only two
  5905. main projects which are unfinished.
  5906.  
  5907. 1312
  5908. 01:18:19,570 --> 01:18:20,571
  5909. <i>Don Quixote.</i>
  5910.  
  5911. 1313
  5912. 01:18:23,282 --> 01:18:26,702
  5913. And the other one, which has been
  5914. much longer is <i>The Other Side of the Wind.</i>
  5915.  
  5916. 1314
  5917. 01:18:28,704 --> 01:18:31,832
  5918. I don't know how many other pictures
  5919. Orson's got somewhere
  5920.  
  5921. 1315
  5922. 01:18:31,916 --> 01:18:34,835
  5923. that were never finished. A few, a few.
  5924.  
  5925. 1316
  5926. 01:18:36,545 --> 01:18:38,631
  5927. <i>The Deep</i> was finished.
  5928.  
  5929. 1317
  5930. 01:18:40,049 --> 01:18:42,301
  5931. He just needed to loop the actors.
  5932.  
  5933. 1318
  5934. 01:18:43,677 --> 01:18:44,720
  5935. But he never did.
  5936.  
  5937. 1319
  5938. 01:18:48,641 --> 01:18:52,436
  5939. <i>The Merchant of Venice.</i>
  5940. If you are listening to Orson,
  5941.  
  5942. 1320
  5943. 01:18:52,603 --> 01:18:56,649
  5944. the sound was stolen, that's the reason
  5945. why he didn't finish the picture.
  5946.  
  5947. 1321
  5948. 01:18:58,776 --> 01:18:59,776
  5949. <i>The Dreamers.</i>
  5950.  
  5951. 1322
  5952. 01:19:00,110 --> 01:19:03,405
  5953. <i>The Dreamers</i> was a major project that
  5954. would've been a really beautiful film.
  5955.  
  5956. 1323
  5957. 01:19:05,783 --> 01:19:08,383
  5958. Do you like to finish
  5959. a picture and be done with it?
  5960.  
  5961. 1324
  5962. 01:19:08,452 --> 01:19:11,121
  5963. Are you happy when it's all done and cut?
  5964.  
  5965. 1325
  5966. 01:19:11,288 --> 01:19:12,288
  5967. No.
  5968.  
  5969. 1326
  5970. 01:19:12,998 --> 01:19:15,501
  5971. No, because you always hope
  5972. you can make it better.
  5973.  
  5974. 1327
  5975. 01:19:16,627 --> 01:19:18,420
  5976. I hate every kind of goodbye.
  5977.  
  5978. 1328
  5979. 01:19:18,587 --> 01:19:21,882
  5980. And every time those lights go out,
  5981. it's a little death and a little goodbye.
  5982.  
  5983. 1329
  5984. 01:19:26,303 --> 01:19:27,638
  5985. I have a feeling,
  5986.  
  5987. 1330
  5988. 01:19:28,889 --> 01:19:31,392
  5989. for which I have no evidence,
  5990.  
  5991. 1331
  5992. 01:19:32,476 --> 01:19:35,688
  5993. that he never wanted to finish
  5994. <i>The Other Side of the Wind.</i>
  5995.  
  5996. 1332
  5997. 01:19:40,985 --> 01:19:45,447
  5998. I always thought that we would
  5999. never finish the film until he died.
  6000.  
  6001. 1333
  6002. 01:19:45,990 --> 01:19:46,990
  6003. Because...
  6004.  
  6005. 1334
  6006. 01:19:47,700 --> 01:19:50,327
  6007. he felt that if we finished the film
  6008. he would die.
  6009.  
  6010. 1335
  6011. 01:19:56,292 --> 01:19:57,334
  6012. On the other hand...
  6013.  
  6014. 1336
  6015. 01:19:59,878 --> 01:20:01,297
  6016. This question:
  6017.  
  6018. 1337
  6019. 01:20:01,714 --> 01:20:04,425
  6020. Orson did not like to finish his films.
  6021.  
  6022. 1338
  6023. 01:20:05,426 --> 01:20:09,013
  6024. There is really no logic in it,
  6025. because not to finish his films
  6026.  
  6027. 1339
  6028. 01:20:09,096 --> 01:20:12,474
  6029. would have been suicidal,
  6030. and Orson loved life.
  6031.  
  6032. 1340
  6033. 01:20:13,517 --> 01:20:14,935
  6034. And life for him
  6035.  
  6036. 1341
  6037. 01:20:15,394 --> 01:20:17,938
  6038. mainly consisted of making the movies.
  6039.  
  6040. 1342
  6041. 01:20:27,656 --> 01:20:31,702
  6042. It implied that he would act
  6043. in other director's movies
  6044.  
  6045. 1343
  6046. 01:20:31,827 --> 01:20:34,580
  6047. in order to finance and to direct his own.
  6048.  
  6049. 1344
  6050. 01:20:34,830 --> 01:20:36,749
  6051. Then just before the end,
  6052.  
  6053. 1345
  6054. 01:20:37,166 --> 01:20:40,085
  6055. he would throw away
  6056. all this money and effort,
  6057.  
  6058. 1346
  6059. 01:20:40,627 --> 01:20:42,629
  6060. which he invested into his film,
  6061.  
  6062. 1347
  6063. 01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,382
  6064. for the sheer pleasure
  6065. of not finishing it.
  6066.  
  6067. 1348
  6068. 01:20:47,176 --> 01:20:49,762
  6069. The myth of him not wanting
  6070. to complete his films
  6071.  
  6072. 1349
  6073. 01:20:49,845 --> 01:20:51,722
  6074. is complete and total nonsense.
  6075.  
  6076. 1350
  6077. 01:20:51,847 --> 01:20:54,099
  6078. Such bullshit.
  6079.  
  6080. 1351
  6081. 01:20:54,224 --> 01:20:56,143
  6082. He wanted to finish them correctly.
  6083.  
  6084. 1352
  6085. 01:20:56,852 --> 01:20:59,063
  6086. I mean, look at the movies
  6087. that were finished.
  6088.  
  6089. 1353
  6090. 01:20:59,897 --> 01:21:00,897
  6091. Hello!
  6092.  
  6093. 1354
  6094. 01:21:02,191 --> 01:21:05,319
  6095. One can only imagine
  6096. what the pain and suffering
  6097.  
  6098. 1355
  6099. 01:21:05,402 --> 01:21:08,280
  6100. he endured through the years
  6101. when he did finish.
  6102.  
  6103. 1356
  6104. 01:21:11,367 --> 01:21:14,036
  6105. <i>Kane. Othello. Macbeth.</i>
  6106.  
  6107. 1357
  6108. 01:21:14,119 --> 01:21:16,955
  6109. <i>Stranger. Mr. Arkadin. </i>And <i>The Trial.</i>
  6110.  
  6111. 1358
  6112. 01:21:17,456 --> 01:21:21,543
  6113. <i>Touch of Evil. Lady from Shanghai.
  6114. Immortal Story.</i>
  6115.  
  6116. 1359
  6117. 01:21:21,627 --> 01:21:23,879
  6118. <i>Chimes at Midnight. F for Fake.</i>
  6119.  
  6120. 1360
  6121. 01:21:25,923 --> 01:21:27,007
  6122. And, of course,
  6123.  
  6124. 1361
  6125. 01:21:27,257 --> 01:21:30,803
  6126. he did everything to continue
  6127. with <i>The Other Side of the Wind.</i>
  6128.  
  6129. 1362
  6130. 01:21:34,681 --> 01:21:37,309
  6131. I used to see him at Ma Maison,
  6132.  
  6133. 1363
  6134. 01:21:37,393 --> 01:21:39,520
  6135. a French restaurant in Los Angeles.
  6136.  
  6137. 1364
  6138. 01:21:39,603 --> 01:21:41,363
  6139. He would eat there seven days a week.
  6140.  
  6141. 1365
  6142. 01:21:41,397 --> 01:21:43,190
  6143. He'd go to Ma Maison for lunch.
  6144.  
  6145. 1366
  6146. 01:21:43,982 --> 01:21:45,359
  6147. He had his own table,
  6148.  
  6149. 1367
  6150. 01:21:45,442 --> 01:21:49,363
  6151. and there was mostly business involved.
  6152. I mean, like Burt Reynolds.
  6153.  
  6154. 1368
  6155. 01:21:49,613 --> 01:21:50,864
  6156. Jack Nicholson.
  6157.  
  6158. 1369
  6159. 01:21:51,657 --> 01:21:53,450
  6160. Henry Jaglom was a regular.
  6161.  
  6162. 1370
  6163. 01:21:53,784 --> 01:21:55,702
  6164. - I'll finish this.
  6165. - Yes.
  6166.  
  6167. 1371
  6168. 01:21:55,786 --> 01:21:57,663
  6169. Chewing the burger.
  6170.  
  6171. 1372
  6172. 01:21:58,122 --> 01:22:00,791
  6173. He wasn't the ogre
  6174. everybody thought he was, at all.
  6175.  
  6176. 1373
  6177. 01:22:01,208 --> 01:22:03,210
  6178. This weird notion
  6179.  
  6180. 1374
  6181. 01:22:03,293 --> 01:22:06,171
  6182. that Orson was sitting around Ma Maison
  6183. doing fuck all
  6184.  
  6185. 1375
  6186. 01:22:06,255 --> 01:22:07,589
  6187. is insulting.
  6188.  
  6189. 1376
  6190. 01:22:08,173 --> 01:22:12,261
  6191. Miss Tracy. Prepare the standard
  6192. rich and famous contract
  6193.  
  6194. 1377
  6195. 01:22:12,344 --> 01:22:14,680
  6196. for Kermit the Frog and company.
  6197.  
  6198. 1378
  6199. 01:22:15,389 --> 01:22:18,308
  6200. We'd had all these lunches
  6201. and we talked about everything.
  6202.  
  6203. 1379
  6204. 01:22:18,559 --> 01:22:21,895
  6205. And he was focusing on getting
  6206. the film back so he could finish
  6207.  
  6208. 1380
  6209. 01:22:21,979 --> 01:22:23,480
  6210. <i>The Other Side of the Wind.</i>
  6211.  
  6212. 1381
  6213. 01:22:26,942 --> 01:22:28,944
  6214. We created a company called Weljag.
  6215.  
  6216. 1382
  6217. 01:22:32,364 --> 01:22:36,034
  6218. And we lied and we claimed to have
  6219. several million dollars
  6220.  
  6221. 1383
  6222. 01:22:36,535 --> 01:22:38,412
  6223. to pay the Shah of Iran's brother
  6224.  
  6225. 1384
  6226. 01:22:38,495 --> 01:22:40,747
  6227. the million and a half he was asking for.
  6228.  
  6229. 1385
  6230. 01:22:40,873 --> 01:22:42,583
  6231. And that would free the film.
  6232.  
  6233. 1386
  6234. 01:22:45,043 --> 01:22:48,422
  6235. He was outrageous.
  6236. He was willing to completely lie,
  6237.  
  6238. 1387
  6239. 01:22:48,505 --> 01:22:51,550
  6240. because he didn't have any respect
  6241. for the stupid process
  6242.  
  6243. 1388
  6244. 01:22:51,633 --> 01:22:53,051
  6245. that had held his film back.
  6246.  
  6247. 1389
  6248. 01:22:56,180 --> 01:22:57,848
  6249. So, we went and we testified.
  6250.  
  6251. 1390
  6252. 01:22:57,931 --> 01:23:00,017
  6253. The great part of the film
  6254.  
  6255. 1391
  6256. 01:23:00,559 --> 01:23:05,272
  6257. was made before there was a partnership
  6258. with the Iranians.
  6259.  
  6260. 1392
  6261. 01:23:06,773 --> 01:23:09,610
  6262. We were appealing
  6263. on the basis of the Code Napoléon,
  6264.  
  6265. 1393
  6266. 01:23:10,235 --> 01:23:12,279
  6267. that says the artist owns the film.
  6268.  
  6269. 1394
  6270. 01:23:12,446 --> 01:23:14,531
  6271. It's close to being finished,
  6272.  
  6273. 1395
  6274. 01:23:15,157 --> 01:23:18,160
  6275. but the failure of the Iranians
  6276.  
  6277. 1396
  6278. 01:23:18,410 --> 01:23:20,746
  6279. to pay the money they were supposed to
  6280.  
  6281. 1397
  6282. 01:23:21,163 --> 01:23:23,040
  6283. delayed us for years,
  6284.  
  6285. 1398
  6286. 01:23:23,165 --> 01:23:24,791
  6287. and several actors died.
  6288.  
  6289. 1399
  6290. 01:23:26,502 --> 01:23:28,378
  6291. That's what his whole focus was,
  6292.  
  6293. 1400
  6294. 01:23:28,462 --> 01:23:30,839
  6295. finishing <i>The Other Side of the Wind.</i>
  6296.  
  6297. 1401
  6298. 01:23:32,966 --> 01:23:35,761
  6299. And then the French judiciary announced
  6300.  
  6301. 1402
  6302. 01:23:36,261 --> 01:23:38,305
  6303. the producer owns the film.
  6304.  
  6305. 1403
  6306. 01:23:38,764 --> 01:23:39,806
  6307. Not Orson.
  6308.  
  6309. 1404
  6310. 01:23:42,643 --> 01:23:44,436
  6311. So, he's back to stage one.
  6312.  
  6313. 1405
  6314. 01:23:50,734 --> 01:23:52,611
  6315. You have to protect yourself.
  6316.  
  6317. 1406
  6318. 01:23:52,819 --> 01:23:54,821
  6319. There are subjects we don't think about.
  6320.  
  6321. 1407
  6322. 01:23:55,822 --> 01:23:58,158
  6323. You know, it's like avoiding the mirror.
  6324.  
  6325. 1408
  6326. 01:23:59,117 --> 01:24:01,620
  6327. I don't much like to look
  6328. in any form of mirror.
  6329.  
  6330. 1409
  6331. 01:24:04,498 --> 01:24:05,624
  6332. In Orson's life,
  6333.  
  6334. 1410
  6335. 01:24:05,707 --> 01:24:10,045
  6336. there's a sense of the essential
  6337. untrustworthiness of people.
  6338.  
  6339. 1411
  6340. 01:24:11,296 --> 01:24:14,633
  6341. It's a world view,
  6342. and that really does run
  6343.  
  6344. 1412
  6345. 01:24:14,716 --> 01:24:16,718
  6346. pretty well through everything.
  6347.  
  6348. 1413
  6349. 01:24:17,803 --> 01:24:20,097
  6350. After that, I knew I couldn't trust him.
  6351.  
  6352. 1414
  6353. 01:24:21,181 --> 01:24:22,516
  6354. He was mad.
  6355.  
  6356. 1415
  6357. 01:24:23,850 --> 01:24:26,770
  6358. Betrayal was key to all of Orson's work.
  6359.  
  6360. 1416
  6361. 01:24:27,271 --> 01:24:30,274
  6362. They're mostly about
  6363. two guys who love each other,
  6364.  
  6365. 1417
  6366. 01:24:30,899 --> 01:24:32,276
  6367. and one betrays the other.
  6368.  
  6369. 1418
  6370. 01:24:37,531 --> 01:24:39,575
  6371. Gosh, this is difficult territory,
  6372.  
  6373. 1419
  6374. 01:24:40,284 --> 01:24:42,869
  6375. but it must have stemmed
  6376. from something in his life.
  6377.  
  6378. 1420
  6379. 01:24:44,997 --> 01:24:47,749
  6380. Actually, it starts as early as you like.
  6381.  
  6382. 1421
  6383. 01:24:50,794 --> 01:24:55,549
  6384. There are a number of betrayals
  6385. in Welles' childhood...
  6386.  
  6387. 1422
  6388. 01:24:55,632 --> 01:24:57,759
  6389. I don't like a pair of eyes...
  6390.  
  6391. 1423
  6392. 01:24:58,510 --> 01:25:02,806
  6393. ...that were absolutely fundamental
  6394. to him, formative to him.
  6395.  
  6396. 1424
  6397. 01:25:03,223 --> 01:25:04,349
  6398. ...staring at me.
  6399.  
  6400. 1425
  6401. 01:25:05,142 --> 01:25:07,060
  6402. His childhood was a mess.
  6403.  
  6404. 1426
  6405. 01:25:07,644 --> 01:25:09,187
  6406. With no look in them.
  6407.  
  6408. 1427
  6409. 01:25:09,855 --> 01:25:12,899
  6410. His mother died, died on his birthday.
  6411.  
  6412. 1428
  6413. 01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,277
  6414. And then his father was a drunk.
  6415.  
  6416. 1429
  6417. 01:25:17,070 --> 01:25:20,866
  6418. He told his father that he didn't
  6419. wanna see him unless he was sober.
  6420.  
  6421. 1430
  6422. 01:25:23,368 --> 01:25:24,453
  6423. His father died.
  6424.  
  6425. 1431
  6426. 01:25:25,370 --> 01:25:26,413
  6427. Suicide, take one.
  6428.  
  6429. 1432
  6430. 01:25:26,663 --> 01:25:29,499
  6431. Welles was convinced
  6432. his father committed suicide.
  6433.  
  6434. 1433
  6435. 01:25:29,708 --> 01:25:31,460
  6436. "Would-be suicide?"
  6437.  
  6438. 1434
  6439. 01:25:32,127 --> 01:25:36,506
  6440. Drank himself to death in a hotel
  6441. room in Chicago when Welles was 15.
  6442.  
  6443. 1435
  6444. 01:25:38,342 --> 01:25:40,886
  6445. - Announce it again.
  6446. - Suicide, take two.
  6447.  
  6448. 1436
  6449. 01:25:42,012 --> 01:25:45,599
  6450. This was the greatest
  6451. source of guilt in his life.
  6452.  
  6453. 1437
  6454. 01:25:48,143 --> 01:25:52,314
  6455. And he said, "I don't think
  6456. you can get over your guilt."
  6457.  
  6458. 1438
  6459. 01:25:52,397 --> 01:25:54,441
  6460. He said,
  6461. "You have to live with your guilt."
  6462.  
  6463. 1439
  6464. 01:25:57,110 --> 01:25:58,612
  6465. This treason...
  6466.  
  6467. 1440
  6468. 01:25:58,695 --> 01:26:01,156
  6469. is a theme that you use in other films.
  6470.  
  6471. 1441
  6472. 01:26:02,032 --> 01:26:05,619
  6473. Either people betray their best friends,
  6474.  
  6475. 1442
  6476. 01:26:05,869 --> 01:26:09,289
  6477. or they betray their values
  6478. in which they believe.
  6479.  
  6480. 1443
  6481. 01:26:09,373 --> 01:26:10,832
  6482. - Yes.
  6483. - Uh...
  6484.  
  6485. 1444
  6486. 01:26:11,208 --> 01:26:12,918
  6487. Which is worse, do you think?
  6488.  
  6489. 1445
  6490. 01:26:13,085 --> 01:26:15,885
  6491. I suppose it's to betray
  6492. the values in which you believe.
  6493.  
  6494. 1446
  6495. 01:26:16,171 --> 01:26:17,171
  6496. There we are!
  6497.  
  6498. 1447
  6499. 01:26:17,631 --> 01:26:19,758
  6500. Now we found the difference between us.
  6501.  
  6502. 1448
  6503. 01:26:20,050 --> 01:26:22,552
  6504. To me, the worst thing
  6505. is to betray a friend.
  6506.  
  6507. 1449
  6508. 01:26:28,225 --> 01:26:29,985
  6509. We were very close for a while.
  6510.  
  6511. 1450
  6512. 01:26:32,521 --> 01:26:35,065
  6513. And I loved him, and I think he loved me.
  6514.  
  6515. 1451
  6516. 01:26:35,816 --> 01:26:37,943
  6517. I like him. I like him very much.
  6518.  
  6519. 1452
  6520. 01:26:38,944 --> 01:26:40,529
  6521. I consider him a true friend.
  6522.  
  6523. 1453
  6524. 01:26:41,446 --> 01:26:44,366
  6525. And I ask you to welcome him.
  6526. Burt Reynolds.
  6527.  
  6528. 1454
  6529. 01:26:47,869 --> 01:26:50,080
  6530. But Bert Reynolds and Orson,
  6531.  
  6532. 1455
  6533. 01:26:50,163 --> 01:26:53,417
  6534. they said a couple of not very nice things
  6535. about me, on television.
  6536.  
  6537. 1456
  6538. 01:26:54,501 --> 01:26:56,920
  6539. We have a mutual friend,
  6540. of course, Peter Bogdanovich.
  6541.  
  6542. 1457
  6543. 01:26:57,003 --> 01:26:58,505
  6544. That's right. As a matter of fact,
  6545.  
  6546. 1458
  6547. 01:26:59,339 --> 01:27:02,259
  6548. you have me to thank for the fact
  6549. that you were asked to be
  6550.  
  6551. 1459
  6552. 01:27:02,342 --> 01:27:06,138
  6553. in the picture which was probably
  6554. the least successful of any in your past.
  6555.  
  6556. 1460
  6557. 01:27:09,766 --> 01:27:11,935
  6558. My feeling was that the picture
  6559. needed you.
  6560.  
  6561. 1461
  6562. 01:27:12,018 --> 01:27:13,018
  6563. Yeah.
  6564.  
  6565. 1462
  6566. 01:27:13,145 --> 01:27:14,688
  6567. No, it needed a lot more.
  6568.  
  6569. 1463
  6570. 01:27:18,567 --> 01:27:19,943
  6571. That's right.
  6572.  
  6573. 1464
  6574. 01:27:20,026 --> 01:27:23,071
  6575. I had the distinction
  6576. of getting him on this show
  6577.  
  6578. 1465
  6579. 01:27:23,363 --> 01:27:24,614
  6580. and having him host the show.
  6581.  
  6582. 1466
  6583. 01:27:24,698 --> 01:27:27,176
  6584. - How did you get him off?
  6585. - Well, that was the thing.
  6586.  
  6587. 1467
  6588. 01:27:29,870 --> 01:27:31,747
  6589. This is the one that hurts.
  6590.  
  6591. 1468
  6592. 01:27:31,872 --> 01:27:34,291
  6593. This is a scene
  6594. we both hoped we'd never get to.
  6595.  
  6596. 1469
  6597. 01:27:36,710 --> 01:27:37,710
  6598. Hey.
  6599.  
  6600. 1470
  6601. 01:27:39,004 --> 01:27:41,590
  6602. Remember when you first appeared
  6603. on that location of mine?
  6604.  
  6605. 1471
  6606. 01:27:42,549 --> 01:27:43,759
  6607. Yeah, I didn't even have
  6608.  
  6609. 1472
  6610. 01:27:44,301 --> 01:27:46,386
  6611. fare back home. Just that...
  6612.  
  6613. 1473
  6614. 01:27:47,429 --> 01:27:48,805
  6615. secondhand tape recorder.
  6616.  
  6617. 1474
  6618. 01:27:48,889 --> 01:27:50,682
  6619. A raggedy-ass kid.
  6620.  
  6621. 1475
  6622. 01:27:53,059 --> 01:27:55,604
  6623. So, I wrote him a note in which I said,
  6624.  
  6625. 1476
  6626. 01:27:55,687 --> 01:27:58,482
  6627. "I tuned in last night to see
  6628. what you think about me
  6629.  
  6630. 1477
  6631. 01:27:58,940 --> 01:28:00,317
  6632. and I guess I found out."
  6633.  
  6634. 1478
  6635. 01:28:02,277 --> 01:28:04,821
  6636. And he sent me back a envelope...
  6637.  
  6638. 1479
  6639. 01:28:04,905 --> 01:28:06,031
  6640. The envelope.
  6641.  
  6642. 1480
  6643. 01:28:07,115 --> 01:28:08,909
  6644. ...with two letters in it.
  6645.  
  6646. 1481
  6647. 01:28:09,826 --> 01:28:12,913
  6648. One said he was absolutely horrified
  6649.  
  6650. 1482
  6651. 01:28:12,996 --> 01:28:15,916
  6652. and that he felt he'd betrayed
  6653. our friendship.
  6654.  
  6655. 1483
  6656. 01:28:17,125 --> 01:28:19,044
  6657. And the other letter said I deserved it.
  6658.  
  6659. 1484
  6660. 01:28:19,127 --> 01:28:21,129
  6661. He said, "Take your pick."
  6662.  
  6663. 1485
  6664. 01:28:21,713 --> 01:28:23,131
  6665. What'd I do wrong, Daddy?
  6666.  
  6667. 1486
  6668. 01:28:24,508 --> 01:28:26,510
  6669. You can kiss my sweet ass.
  6670.  
  6671. 1487
  6672. 01:28:31,848 --> 01:28:33,892
  6673. <i>Last Picture Show, Paper Moon.</i>
  6674.  
  6675. 1488
  6676. 01:28:34,476 --> 01:28:37,854
  6677. Some of those early films.
  6678. They said, "Bogdanovich is
  6679.  
  6680. 1489
  6681. 01:28:38,355 --> 01:28:40,857
  6682. the best we've got. He's on his way."
  6683.  
  6684. 1490
  6685. 01:28:41,066 --> 01:28:42,943
  6686. They don't say that anymore.
  6687.  
  6688. 1491
  6689. 01:28:44,069 --> 01:28:45,195
  6690. What happened?
  6691.  
  6692. 1492
  6693. 01:28:45,821 --> 01:28:48,615
  6694. Peter, due to personal situations,
  6695.  
  6696. 1493
  6697. 01:28:48,698 --> 01:28:51,034
  6698. ended up on the rocks in a number of ways.
  6699.  
  6700. 1494
  6701. 01:28:51,743 --> 01:28:54,663
  6702. But Orson was way beyond
  6703. being on the rocks.
  6704.  
  6705. 1495
  6706. 01:28:55,038 --> 01:28:58,375
  6707. Orson was the rocks
  6708. and the waves and the wind.
  6709.  
  6710. 1496
  6711. 01:29:01,044 --> 01:29:02,044
  6712. Cut.
  6713.  
  6714. 1497
  6715. 01:29:04,631 --> 01:29:06,049
  6716. Many years later,
  6717.  
  6718. 1498
  6719. 01:29:06,508 --> 01:29:08,844
  6720. we started talking
  6721. on the phone again a bit.
  6722.  
  6723. 1499
  6724. 01:29:10,595 --> 01:29:12,180
  6725. But it wasn't the same.
  6726.  
  6727. 1500
  6728. 01:29:14,474 --> 01:29:15,767
  6729. And I said to him,
  6730.  
  6731. 1501
  6732. 01:29:16,810 --> 01:29:19,104
  6733. "I feel like I made so many mistakes."
  6734.  
  6735. 1502
  6736. 01:29:20,981 --> 01:29:21,982
  6737. And he said,
  6738.  
  6739. 1503
  6740. 01:29:23,024 --> 01:29:24,024
  6741. "Well...
  6742.  
  6743. 1504
  6744. 01:29:24,651 --> 01:29:27,612
  6745. it does seem to be impossible
  6746. to go through life
  6747.  
  6748. 1505
  6749. 01:29:28,363 --> 01:29:30,949
  6750. without making a great many of them."
  6751.  
  6752. 1506
  6753. 01:29:34,077 --> 01:29:35,787
  6754. He died within a week later.
  6755.  
  6756. 1507
  6757. 01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:51,970
  6758. Our next speaker has been Orson's friend
  6759. and cameraman for about 15 years,
  6760.  
  6761. 1508
  6762. 01:29:52,220 --> 01:29:55,807
  6763. and a friend, very good friend. Underline.
  6764.  
  6765. 1509
  6766. 01:29:56,057 --> 01:29:58,310
  6767. He worked on <i>The Other Side of the Wind</i>
  6768. and <i>F for Fake...</i>
  6769.  
  6770. 1510
  6771. 01:29:58,393 --> 01:30:00,812
  6772. At the memorial, Gary broke down.
  6773.  
  6774. 1511
  6775. 01:30:01,646 --> 01:30:04,858
  6776. That was a big piece of his life gone,
  6777. you know?
  6778.  
  6779. 1512
  6780. 01:30:05,775 --> 01:30:08,820
  6781. He had more contact with Orson
  6782. than he did with his children.
  6783.  
  6784. 1513
  6785. 01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,491
  6786. The thing that's sad to me really is that
  6787.  
  6788. 1514
  6789. 01:30:13,825 --> 01:30:15,076
  6790. I wanna talk to Orson.
  6791.  
  6792. 1515
  6793. 01:30:16,244 --> 01:30:17,579
  6794. I wish I could talk to him
  6795.  
  6796. 1516
  6797. 01:30:17,829 --> 01:30:19,956
  6798. and tell him a lot of things
  6799. right now. That's...
  6800.  
  6801. 1517
  6802. 01:30:20,248 --> 01:30:21,291
  6803. that's what probably
  6804.  
  6805. 1518
  6806. 01:30:21,875 --> 01:30:23,585
  6807. makes me feel saddest of all.
  6808.  
  6809. 1519
  6810. 01:30:24,336 --> 01:30:25,795
  6811. It just broke your heart.
  6812.  
  6813. 1520
  6814. 01:30:26,588 --> 01:30:27,839
  6815. He said stuff like,
  6816.  
  6817. 1521
  6818. 01:30:28,089 --> 01:30:31,134
  6819. "I don't know what to do tomorrow."
  6820. You know?
  6821.  
  6822. 1522
  6823. 01:30:32,052 --> 01:30:33,052
  6824. And, uh...
  6825.  
  6826. 1523
  6827. 01:30:33,762 --> 01:30:35,680
  6828. He said, "I wake up every morning,
  6829. what I do is
  6830.  
  6831. 1524
  6832. 01:30:35,764 --> 01:30:38,600
  6833. I call Orson and he tells me
  6834. what I'm supposed to do today.
  6835.  
  6836. 1525
  6837. 01:30:38,683 --> 01:30:41,144
  6838. And I don't know what to do tomorrow."
  6839.  
  6840. 1526
  6841. 01:30:43,355 --> 01:30:45,148
  6842. Gary ended up with Orson's ashes
  6843.  
  6844. 1527
  6845. 01:30:45,231 --> 01:30:47,609
  6846. in the trunk of his car
  6847. for a year and a half,
  6848.  
  6849. 1528
  6850. 01:30:48,026 --> 01:30:50,904
  6851. waiting for... where are we gonna
  6852. bury him, you know?
  6853.  
  6854. 1529
  6855. 01:30:53,740 --> 01:30:55,742
  6856. I'm sorry for all the...
  6857.  
  6858. 1530
  6859. 01:30:56,284 --> 01:30:58,328
  6860. great things that Orson did
  6861.  
  6862. 1531
  6863. 01:30:59,037 --> 01:31:00,330
  6864. that were never shown.
  6865.  
  6866. 1532
  6867. 01:31:01,289 --> 01:31:03,208
  6868. And that's why I keep after you, Gary.
  6869.  
  6870. 1533
  6871. 01:31:03,625 --> 01:31:06,670
  6872. I keep hoping <i>The Other Side of the Wind</i>
  6873. will be released.
  6874.  
  6875. 1534
  6876. 01:31:12,801 --> 01:31:15,804
  6877. This... This is what we started
  6878. <i>The Other Side of the Wind </i>with.
  6879.  
  6880. 1535
  6881. 01:31:15,929 --> 01:31:16,930
  6882. Arriflex.
  6883.  
  6884. 1536
  6885. 01:31:17,597 --> 01:31:19,724
  6886. And then Orson could look there.
  6887.  
  6888. 1537
  6889. 01:31:23,603 --> 01:31:27,190
  6890. There was a work print
  6891. amidst Gary's belongings.
  6892.  
  6893. 1538
  6894. 01:31:29,067 --> 01:31:31,695
  6895. And he did try to cut the movie
  6896. before he died.
  6897.  
  6898. 1539
  6899. 01:31:33,321 --> 01:31:34,321
  6900. But...
  6901.  
  6902. 1540
  6903. 01:31:35,448 --> 01:31:37,534
  6904. without Orson, it didn't track.
  6905.  
  6906. 1541
  6907. 01:31:38,952 --> 01:31:43,456
  6908. Gary would have the story perfect in
  6909. his head, he just couldn't get it on film.
  6910.  
  6911. 1542
  6912. 01:31:46,167 --> 01:31:47,669
  6913. But without any doubt,
  6914.  
  6915. 1543
  6916. 01:31:48,628 --> 01:31:50,839
  6917. I believe that my father would've
  6918.  
  6919. 1544
  6920. 01:31:51,006 --> 01:31:53,008
  6921. - immediately answered "yes."
  6922. - Yes.
  6923.  
  6924. 1545
  6925. 01:31:53,258 --> 01:31:54,843
  6926. That he would do it all over again.
  6927.  
  6928. 1546
  6929. 01:31:57,721 --> 01:32:00,807
  6930. A lot of people wanna see
  6931. <i>The Other Side of the Wind</i> get made.
  6932.  
  6933. 1547
  6934. 01:32:02,642 --> 01:32:06,271
  6935. It is the greatest movie
  6936. never released, you know.
  6937.  
  6938. 1548
  6939. 01:32:10,525 --> 01:32:12,944
  6940. What did Orson really mean by it?
  6941.  
  6942. 1549
  6943. 01:32:13,737 --> 01:32:17,323
  6944. What is its... its true form?
  6945.  
  6946. 1550
  6947. 01:32:18,158 --> 01:32:19,784
  6948. It's an eternal quest.
  6949.  
  6950. 1551
  6951. 01:32:21,453 --> 01:32:23,038
  6952. I shot <i>Someone to Love,</i>
  6953.  
  6954. 1552
  6955. 01:32:23,121 --> 01:32:26,374
  6956. which is Orson's last movie as an actor,
  6957. before he died.
  6958.  
  6959. 1553
  6960. 01:32:28,043 --> 01:32:30,045
  6961. And he turns to me and he says...
  6962.  
  6963. 1554
  6964. 01:32:30,712 --> 01:32:34,132
  6965. "We come into the world alone,
  6966. we die alone, we live alone.
  6967.  
  6968. 1555
  6969. 01:32:34,674 --> 01:32:37,385
  6970. Love and friendship is the nearest thing
  6971.  
  6972. 1556
  6973. 01:32:37,677 --> 01:32:38,928
  6974. that we can find
  6975.  
  6976. 1557
  6977. 01:32:39,596 --> 01:32:41,806
  6978. to create the illusion
  6979.  
  6980. 1558
  6981. 01:32:42,474 --> 01:32:44,267
  6982. that we are not totally alone."
  6983.  
  6984. 1559
  6985. 01:32:45,727 --> 01:32:48,438
  6986. So, I'm working on that, after Orson died,
  6987.  
  6988. 1560
  6989. 01:32:48,730 --> 01:32:52,901
  6990. and I get a knock on my door.
  6991. And it's John Huston.
  6992.  
  6993. 1561
  6994. 01:32:53,401 --> 01:32:56,905
  6995. He says, "You have footage of Orson
  6996. that I haven't seen."
  6997.  
  6998. 1562
  6999. 01:32:56,988 --> 01:32:58,823
  7000. I said, "Well, I'll put it up for you."
  7001.  
  7002. 1563
  7003. 01:32:59,282 --> 01:33:02,827
  7004. As far as this movie is concerned,
  7005. it seems to me you've got your ending.
  7006.  
  7007. 1564
  7008. 01:33:03,411 --> 01:33:04,245
  7009. Why?
  7010.  
  7011. 1565
  7012. 01:33:04,329 --> 01:33:08,041
  7013. Because we have come to the end.
  7014.  
  7015. 1566
  7016. 01:33:12,212 --> 01:33:14,672
  7017. - I'm glad you came today.
  7018. - So am I.
  7019.  
  7020. 1567
  7021. 01:33:15,340 --> 01:33:17,008
  7022. Thank you. Stay a little longer?
  7023.  
  7024. 1568
  7025. 01:33:17,092 --> 01:33:18,772
  7026. Really can't go on recording this.
  7027.  
  7028. 1569
  7029. 01:33:18,802 --> 01:33:20,762
  7030. - Why?
  7031. - It's got too sweet.
  7032.  
  7033. 1570
  7034. 01:33:21,221 --> 01:33:22,555
  7035. I'm not gonna say "cut."
  7036.  
  7037. 1571
  7038. 01:33:22,639 --> 01:33:24,599
  7039. I'll say "cut." I'm a director.
  7040.  
  7041. 1572
  7042. 01:33:24,682 --> 01:33:25,682
  7043. - Say it...
  7044. - Cut!
  7045.  
  7046. 1573
  7047. 01:33:25,767 --> 01:33:27,477
  7048. - Say it into the camera.
  7049. - What?
  7050.  
  7051. 1574
  7052. 01:33:27,602 --> 01:33:29,437
  7053. - Say it into the camera.
  7054. - I did.
  7055.  
  7056. 1575
  7057. 01:33:30,021 --> 01:33:31,106
  7058. Can you do it again?
  7059.  
  7060. 1576
  7061. 01:33:31,564 --> 01:33:33,066
  7062. You want me to say "cut" again?
  7063.  
  7064. 1577
  7065. 01:33:33,149 --> 01:33:35,002
  7066. - Into the camera...
  7067. - Wants to improvise
  7068.  
  7069. 1578
  7070. 01:33:35,026 --> 01:33:36,653
  7071. and do it twice. Cut!
  7072.  
  7073. 1579
  7074. 01:33:49,207 --> 01:33:51,042
  7075. Huston turned to me and he said,
  7076.  
  7077. 1580
  7078. 01:33:52,127 --> 01:33:53,419
  7079. "He let you do that?"
  7080.  
  7081. 1581
  7082. 01:33:53,753 --> 01:33:57,507
  7083. He said, "Oh, that's wonderful.
  7084. I've always wanted him on film laughing.
  7085.  
  7086. 1582
  7087. 01:33:57,590 --> 01:33:59,425
  7088. That was so... "And he started crying.
  7089.  
  7090. 1583
  7091. 01:34:00,802 --> 01:34:02,220
  7092. He started crying, Huston.
  7093.  
  7094. 1584
  7095. 01:34:03,179 --> 01:34:05,431
  7096. Watching Orson laughing.
  7097.  
  7098. 1585
  7099. 01:34:24,951 --> 01:34:30,582
  7100. <i>Clips of films, the cans,
  7101. the years of work and ideas.</i>
  7102.  
  7103. 1586
  7104. 01:34:31,749 --> 01:34:34,919
  7105. <i>Did Welles see it all as an endless loop</i>
  7106.  
  7107. 1587
  7108. 01:34:35,003 --> 01:34:38,965
  7109. <i>full of sound and fury,
  7110. signifying nothing?</i>
  7111.  
  7112. 1588
  7113. 01:34:41,467 --> 01:34:43,178
  7114. <i>Or, perhaps for him,</i>
  7115.  
  7116. 1589
  7117. 01:34:44,387 --> 01:34:46,973
  7118. <i>failure was simply
  7119. a more interesting ending.</i>
  7120.  
  7121. 1590
  7122. 01:34:50,310 --> 01:34:54,314
  7123. Orson talked about ways to
  7124. re-imagine <i>The Other Side of the Wind.</i>
  7125.  
  7126. 1591
  7127. 01:34:54,814 --> 01:34:55,899
  7128. How did he put it?
  7129.  
  7130. 1592
  7131. 01:34:56,566 --> 01:35:00,028
  7132. Supposing, during the course
  7133. of the picture, that it turns out
  7134.  
  7135. 1593
  7136. 01:35:00,236 --> 01:35:04,240
  7137. that it's more interesting hearing
  7138. the actors and myself talk about it
  7139.  
  7140. 1594
  7141. 01:35:04,324 --> 01:35:06,576
  7142. than making the picture.
  7143. That will be the picture.
  7144.  
  7145. 1595
  7146. 01:35:09,871 --> 01:35:12,207
  7147. Oh, maybe that's what
  7148. he was talking about.
  7149.  
  7150. 1596
  7151. 01:35:12,373 --> 01:35:15,627
  7152. Maybe he was saying that <i>The Other Side
  7153. of the Wind</i> was like a documentary.
  7154.  
  7155. 1597
  7156. 01:35:15,710 --> 01:35:18,230
  7157. At one point, he was talking about
  7158. turning it into a documentary.
  7159.  
  7160. 1598
  7161. 01:35:18,254 --> 01:35:19,130
  7162. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
  7163.  
  7164. 1599
  7165. 01:35:19,214 --> 01:35:22,008
  7166. As he always had done,
  7167. innovating with the form.
  7168.  
  7169. 1600
  7170. 01:35:22,091 --> 01:35:24,928
  7171. You were showing people
  7172. making a movie.
  7173.  
  7174. 1601
  7175. 01:35:25,011 --> 01:35:27,513
  7176. So, it was like a documentary.
  7177.  
  7178. 1602
  7179. 01:35:28,014 --> 01:35:29,891
  7180. See what I mean?
  7181. It's that... It's that free.
  7182.  
  7183. 1603
  7184. 01:35:30,433 --> 01:35:32,227
  7185. Maybe it isn't even the picture.
  7186.  
  7187. 1604
  7188. 01:35:32,435 --> 01:35:34,979
  7189. Maybe it's just talking about
  7190. making the picture.
  7191.  
  7192. 1605
  7193. 01:35:35,313 --> 01:35:36,314
  7194. We're just gonna go.
  7195.  
  7196. 1606
  7197. 01:35:38,566 --> 01:35:39,484
  7198. Let me show that again.
  7199.  
  7200. 1607
  7201. 01:35:39,567 --> 01:35:41,694
  7202. Maybe it's just talking about
  7203. making the picture.
  7204.  
  7205. 1608
  7206. 01:35:41,778 --> 01:35:43,821
  7207. Well, that makes perfect sense to me.
  7208.  
  7209. 1609
  7210. 01:35:44,364 --> 01:35:46,241
  7211. I remember him talking to me about that.
  7212.  
  7213. 1610
  7214. 01:35:46,366 --> 01:35:48,368
  7215. It's all in the editing.
  7216.  
  7217. 1611
  7218. 01:35:48,493 --> 01:35:51,913
  7219. <i>The Other Side of the Wind</i>
  7220. and his life were inseparable.
  7221.  
  7222. 1612
  7223. 01:35:52,205 --> 01:35:56,459
  7224. The whole documentary
  7225. that we're all so accustomed to today...
  7226.  
  7227. 1613
  7228. 01:35:56,876 --> 01:35:58,086
  7229. he was inventing.
  7230.  
  7231. 1614
  7232. 01:35:59,921 --> 01:36:01,673
  7233. Well, who's gonna watch this film?
  7234.  
  7235. 1615
  7236. 01:36:02,173 --> 01:36:05,009
  7237. What kind of people do you think
  7238. are gonna be your audience?
  7239.  
  7240. 1616
  7241. 01:36:05,677 --> 01:36:07,387
  7242. That's a wonderful question.
  7243.  
  7244. 1617
  7245. 01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:09,722
  7246. I hope everybody.
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