Beardler's decline

🅱loctagon - 06/04/2018
can you get in voice chat rn
Beard - 06/04/2018
can’t rn
🅱loctagon - 06/04/2018
Look, I think you need to tell me what's going on here with the whole BGM and Boedecken thing
because I've been arguing on your side for the past days and the main thing that gets me is the logs
why can't you provide these corrupted logs?
maybe i'm wrong
look, wether you did or didn't do it, I don't really care (as long as the same thing doesnt happen here), but I don't think it's right to tell your group these things without giving us all the facts or anything to argue with
and if you did do it, for whatever reason, be honest with us about it at least. it will hurt your rep drastically more, i think, if you don't tell us the truth and let us find it out for ourselves than if you simply told us right out
Beard - 06/04/2018
I'll have an ama with the group
I didn't provide the corrupted logs because they included coords to purg 2 and i forgot when the boe was griefed. at any rate, the logs were glitched or corrupted, what have you, so i wouldn't expect them to be useful to ysj
🅱loctagon - 06/04/2018
just saying, you should probably give him the logs and exclude sensitive information such as coordinates. The main reason he thinks you're guilty is because of said logs, and the fact you didn't provide the corrupted ones
the same is true for others, he tells me
Beard - 06/04/2018
I'll figure out a way to contact ysj
🅱loctagon - 06/04/2018
do it over reddit
Beard - 06/04/2018
kk
🅱loctagon - 06/04/2018
I am u/rumpleforcekin
And I'm doing my best to understand both sides but now that I've heard both I think it's best if I stay out of things entirely
Beard - 06/04/2018
yeah, understandable
🅱loctagon - 06/05/2018
lol someone told time traveller we were thinking of outing him(edited)
look how much he's typing in chat
Beard - 06/05/2018
which chat
🅱loctagon - 06/05/2018
general
Beard - 06/05/2018
he didn't talk all that much tbh
🅱loctagon - 06/05/2018
It's just an amusing random uptick of random talking to nobody specific with no point at all
Beard - 06/05/2018
true
🅱loctagon - 06/05/2018
just letting you know, ysj has told me he wants to release a post claiming it's unlikely for you to have not had an intentional hand in the griefing of Boedecken
Beard - 06/05/2018
he believes it was me
ofc it's nonsense(edited)
🅱loctagon - 06/05/2018
and he wants to include screenshots from your conversations with him
well i saw your conversations with him and your logs, etc, and they're admittedly not very convincing for your cause
Beard - 06/05/2018
it's entrapment
🅱loctagon - 06/05/2018
I don't think ysj has any malicious intent
he's reluctant to pin the blame on you again
and feels sorry for you even if you did do it
and seriously the gaps and edits in your logs are so so soooo suspicious
Beard - 06/05/2018
do you believe him
🅱loctagon - 06/05/2018
he was mad at you near the end of your conversation with him and said he was gonna post that picture and more to reddit but never did. he decided he let his anger get the better of him but is unsure of what to do
I just might. Beard, please understand, looking at your conversation with him, and after myself having a discussion over the topic with him, it's very hard not to beleive him. But I'm still attempting to act in your best interest here, as I do not know the whole story either way, and ysj, after all, isn't my basemate, nor do I think the possibility of your responsibility will affect me (unless an angry member decides to ruin our day somehow w/ the haven project)
Beard - 06/05/2018
I'm just trying not to be backstabbed
🅱loctagon - 06/05/2018
Please understand he's not attempting to backstab you, and he legit beleives you're guilty.
Beard - 06/05/2018
I don't care what he thinks, I care what he makes my basemates think
🅱loctagon - 06/05/2018
I'm not tryna do anything to the fuckin base lol, I worked hard on building, maybe even moreso than you so far
Beard - 06/05/2018
I'm aware
🅱loctagon - 06/05/2018
I simply argued your case for a couple days and it floated into PMs and we had a talk. I harbor no ill will against you or ysj
if I did I doubt i'd be letting you know all this
Beard - 06/05/2018
I know
🅱loctagon - 06/05/2018
in fact, idgaf if you did do anything to boedecken or bgm. But I do beleive it's best if other basemates do not beleive you did anything, and for that I hope ysj doesn't decide to post anything else. I'm doing what I can to prevent it.
whatever the case, this is your problem, and you haven't done a very good job of solving it.
Beard - 06/05/2018
yeah, I understand
I hope ysj realizes he's done enough damage to my rep and my friends trust in me
🅱loctagon - 06/05/2018
He doesnt't. Understand that, since ysj beleives you griefed both boedecken and bgm, that he thinks the damage should be much more. He's too nice though, from what I can tell.
Beard - 06/05/2018
I'm just happy you and much of Haven have stood by my side all through this
🅱loctagon - 06/05/2018
Yes, and I want to get this shit sorted out so neither of us have to worry, but I'm getting a different story from both sides all the time and the more beleivable one, unfortunately, is the opposing side.    I hope you've done everything in your power to prove your innocence. And by the way, moral highground is not a good fallback nor should it be used as your main point in an argument, it simply looks like you have something to hide.
I'm trying to help you, but it isn't easy
Beard - 06/05/2018
I understand, and thank you
I just hope we can get past this unplesantness
🅱loctagon - 06/05/2018
I just wish it hadn't started in the first place
Beard - 06/05/2018
same

Irrelevant shit for the next 8 days

🅱loctagon - 06/13/2018
Are you still museum staff
Beard - 06/13/2018
yes
🅱loctagon - 06/13/2018
ah someone said you weren't and I was confused
Beard - 06/13/2018
who?
🅱loctagon - 06/13/2018
someone called mikeplayz or some other shit with the name mike
nobody I know
Beard - 06/13/2018
a literal who? lol
🅱loctagon - 06/13/2018
yep
🅱loctagon - 06/15/2018
Hey, I think you should move either Hawked, willy, warlord, regicide or myself up to overseer, as there is an age disconnect between the overseers and these older members that we feel uncomfortable about
the members I've listed are those I think you can trust the most
and I hope you could trust me enough to be on that list, lol
add gender to that
Beard - 06/15/2018
warlord is getting overseer
🅱loctagon - 06/15/2018
good
🅱loctagon - 06/15/2018
make warlord and hawked overseers
please
Beard - 06/15/2018
i'll join back eventually
🅱loctagon - 06/15/2018
yes
I know
do it for the time being
🅱loctagon - 06/15/2018
hey
base is leaked
🅱loctagon - Last Saturday at 3:23 PM
Alphacomputer wants to talk to you
keeps asking me to ask you to unblock him
Also
why leak purg 2
Beard - Last Saturday at 3:47 PM
what?
🅱loctagon - Last Saturday at 3:49 PM
jumpy swears you leaked purg 2
Beard - Last Saturday at 3:49 PM
that’s bullshit and you know it
🅱loctagon - Last Saturday at 3:49 PM
I thought as much, but have to be sure
Beard - Last Sunday at 7:29 PM
BLOC
have you seen the subreddit
🅱loctagon - Last Sunday at 7:36 PM
Ah just seen it
didn't think it would be him
Beard - Last Sunday at 7:36 PM
ban him anyway
that was my stash
🅱loctagon - Last Sunday at 7:37 PM
ye we did

after convo in overseer chat deteriorates and beard swears us all out for saying it's unsafe for him to rejoin
unless on an alt

🅱loctagon - Last Monday at 1:24 PM
If that's how you treat people who are trying to help you then you deserve every ounce of the shit you're getting(edited)
Idk why I'm even helping you(edited)
Beard - Last Monday at 1:24 PM
help me? help me? you kicked me out of my own team
🅱loctagon - Last Monday at 1:24 PM
No. I didn't.
Beard - Last Monday at 1:25 PM
you don't even consider removing the cancerous leakers?
🅱loctagon - Last Monday at 1:25 PM
You aren't understanding what I'm saying
We removed half the fucking group to try and get them out. It would be much easier to have you in under a new name. It would save everyone a lot of risk and trouble.
Beard - Last Monday at 1:26 PM
fuck slappn
🅱loctagon - Last Monday at 1:30 PM
But fuck it. I guess just go ahead and swear us out and remove the last possible allies you have. Would you not be furious if your base is leaked? You called leakers cancerous just now. That's how slappin feels about you. And your irresponsibility and self pity fucked over purg 2, and now we are forced to regroup. I don't have much respect left for you but when I try and help you this shit happens. I thought you were quitting, then I think you're coming back in a few months, then you come back now. This is a mess.
and it's very easy to be seen as selfish bs
Beard - Last Monday at 1:31 PM
and my patience and respect for you is dwindling with every word you spew. clean up your act before i work to have you removed
respect your superiors
🅱loctagon - Last Monday at 1:32 PM
excuse me
Beard - Last Monday at 1:33 PM
cold hard stare
🅱loctagon - Last Monday at 1:33 PM
Clean up my act? I'm trying to do whats best for the group while you try and do what's best for you.
Beard - Last Monday at 1:34 PM
best for me? cutting me out like I'm some sort of fucking tumor?
🅱loctagon - Last Monday at 1:35 PM
Did I say we were cutting you out? I repeatedly said that we would try and have you in but it couln't be exactly how you want it, lest we put the whole group in danger.
Beard - Last Monday at 1:35 PM
the group was in danger from day one
🅱loctagon - Last Monday at 1:37 PM
and now it may not be. Is it so hard to create an alt discord and join
all the overseers just told me that you want me removed. Why? because I may have lost some respect for you after you lied to me repeatedly about all this shit you've done even while I was trying to help and then now that I'm trying to help you swear me out and disrepsect me so
Beard - Last Monday at 1:39 PM
don't try and take the moral high ground
🅱loctagon - Last Monday at 1:40 PM
I may be the only person you were in decent standing with before now, besides possibly jonathan. Idk how you didn't understand that. Your mistakes screwed over the project how it was
the group dislikes you
Beard - Last Monday at 1:40 PM
listen, I'm in a shit mood rn
don't make it any worse
that comment about the group disliking me? utter bullshit
I took most of you in and trusted you
🅱loctagon - Last Monday at 1:41 PM
Trust works two ways, and you've lost most people's trust with the recent reddit shitshow
Beard - Last Monday at 1:42 PM
fuck you

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