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- [23:08] <FlowerChild> no man, it's not playinhg
- [23:08] <slowpoke> I am saying if he has ANY involvement with the actual code, then he has kept that from everyone
- [23:08] <FlowerChild> here's the link for you: http://www.twitch.tv/themattabase/b/346836818
- [23:08] <DominarQuintus> Has anyone had a problem with server like lag in singleplayer
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- [23:08] <FlowerChild> he acts as the public face for BWF, he displays intimate knowledge of its inner workings, and he goes on at length in support of it
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- [23:09] <slowpoke> FC as your in a reasonable mood, could you clarify something for me?
- [23:09] <FlowerChild> denying involvement is simply him lacking the courage of his convictions
- [23:09] <slowpoke> I want to check I remember something right
- [23:09] <FlowerChild> sure slow
- [23:09] <slowpoke> thank
- [23:09] <FlowerChild> again man, we've always discussed things in a friendly manner, except once ;)
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- [23:10] <slowpoke> so if i remember in our discussions your principle objection at the time to rejoining forge was it would remove control for things like updating from you
- [23:10] <FlowerChild> errr...not exactly, but we seem to be going off topic
- [23:10] <slowpoke> not really
- [23:10] <slowpoke> ill be bringing it back in a sec
- [23:10] <FlowerChild> I think we are, but I'm willing to entertain it, so shoot
- [23:10] <slowpoke> so ignoring the hatred stuff
- [23:10] <slowpoke> whats the reason
- [23:11] <FlowerChild> you're familar with my video interview on leaving forge right?
- [23:11] <slowpoke> yes
- [23:11] <FlowerChild> then you have your answer
- [23:11] <slowpoke> we had this all out before remember
- [23:11] <slowpoke> and during that 2-3 hour talk
- [23:11] <FlowerChild> forge was becoming overly competitive on an internal level, and I decided I wanted no part of it
- [23:11] <FlowerChild> that's the main reason
- [23:11] <slowpoke> where I even agreed with you, you had a totally valid point for leaving forge
- [23:11] <FlowerChild> everything else is secondary
- [23:12] <FlowerChild> that's still while I'm not part of it really
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- [23:12] <slowpoke> we then talked about stuff like FTB maps for BTW
- [23:12] <FlowerChild> other points have come up along the way, but that's the main once
- [23:12] <FlowerChild> "one" :)
- [23:12] <slowpoke> and I was invloved in the youtube series etc
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- [23:12] <FlowerChild> yup, we talked at length, and again, I *like* you
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- [23:12] <FlowerChild> there's no hostility between you and I...outside of the other night ;)
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- [23:13] <FlowerChild> as I said then, I always had the impression you were trying to get into my pants (metaphorically), but I still liked you
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- [23:13] <slowpoke> you specifically stated that the main reason for no coming back was it would force you onto Forges timetable, hell I even remember going and asking about adding stuff into forge that would limit the ability to use other mods alongside BTW
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- [23:14] <FlowerChild> I may have mentioned that as one of the reasons yes, and it's certainly part of them, but not all of them
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- [23:14] <FlowerChild> and again: more than two weeks to update to 1.3, and just two days less than to update my entire mod
- [23:15] <FlowerChild> Lex mentions in that stream taking "on average" less than 30 mins to update the past few releases
- [23:15] <FlowerChild> which tells me he doesn't understand what "average" means, given those two weeks
- [23:15] <slowpoke> this is all besides the point. this all leads down to. BWF why do you even care. you dont get the tech support headache that you aways claimed would be an issue, this 'port' means you still work to your own schedule. you already stated on the MCF that BWF is totally legal (if morally wrong) and its not like you have never copied anything yourself.
- [23:16] <FlowerChild> I care based on principle, and given the intent
- [23:16] <slowpoke> screw the intent
- [23:16] <iPixeli> FlowerChild, not everyone knows of what has even happened, (Like myself), care to quickly mention all the reasons why you'd rather not use forge?
- [23:16] <FlowerChild> no, I prefer not to :)
- [23:16] <FlowerChild> let's look at it this way slow
- [23:17] <slowpoke> we both know, nothing you can do, can prevent this from happening.
- [23:17] <FlowerChild> can you ever see me making BTW dependent on Lex after what he has done?
- [23:17] <FlowerChild> would you do that?
- [23:17] <slowpoke> honestly
- [23:17] <slowpoke> and I know you will dislike this
- [23:17] <slowpoke> but this is how i truely see you
- [23:17] <FlowerChild> actually, there is plenty I can do, as I am demonstrating now
- [23:17] <FlowerChild> where do you think this will stop?
- [23:18] <FlowerChild> I told Lex war was coming, and I've demonstrated that's exactly what is happening
- [23:18] <FlowerChild> he simply can not compete with me on this level
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- [23:18] <slowpoke> you are a man fueled by hatred surrounded by sycophants that like to encourage that hatred. I think you really need to learn to not worry about what other people do and start worrying more about things that are important
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- [23:18] <FlowerChild> those are some very pretty terms you've got at your disposal Lex
- [23:19] <FlowerChild> but I think you know very well that the people that are backing me are far more intelligent and informed than the 14 year olds backing you right now
- [23:19] <slowpoke> um no FC I dont
- [23:19] <FlowerChild> all I've done is make honest statements since this began
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- [23:19] <slowpoke> what 14 year olds are these
- [23:19] <slowpoke> ahhh honesty
- [23:19] <FlowerChild> while Lex has spouted laughable denials throughout
- [23:19] <FlowerChild> I think it's very clear which way this is going
- [23:19] <slowpoke> you want to be honest?
- [23:20] <FlowerChild> shoot
- [23:20] <FlowerChild> and always
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- [23:20] <slowpoke> so would you like to repeat to eveyone here exactly what you said about Eloraam?
- [23:20] <slowpoke> both on the stream and in your little room on your forums
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- [23:20] <FlowerChild> absolutely, it's a matter of the public record, and one you've already distorted to your own ends
- [23:20] <slowpoke> the one that was so hateful even one of your own made it public
- [23:20] <FlowerChild> I'd be happy to debate it
- [23:21] <FlowerChild> lol...go man go...please
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- [23:21] <slowpoke> your mission to 'destroy eloraam' and 'drive her from the community' because she took some of your ideas?
- [23:21] <slowpoke> you think thats ok yes
- [23:21] <FlowerChild> hehe...no, what I think is ok is venting in private...just as anyone else did
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- [23:22] <FlowerChild> I believe what I said at the time was "if I had a chance to drive Eloraam out of modding...I would"
- [23:22] <slowpoke> um no
- [23:22] <FlowerChild> now, what you seem to have neglected there, is that I'm also a moral individual
- [23:22] <FlowerChild> ok...sure, explain further
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- [23:22] <slowpoke> you said it was your intent to literally destroy eloraam
- [23:22] <slowpoke> your words
- [23:23] <FlowerChild> ok, and I will say now that I intend to fuck you up the ass
- [23:23] <FlowerChild> how do you take that?
- [23:23] <FlowerChild> am I serious?
- [23:23] <slowpoke> i take that as you trying to justify something that you seriously meant
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- [23:23] <slowpoke> by hiding it
- [23:23] <FlowerChild> am I making an inflated statement basedon the situation?
- [23:23] <slowpoke> ahhh
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- [23:24] <FlowerChild> am I spouting bravado nonsense?
- [23:24] <slowpoke> so you have no intentions along that line then
- [23:24] <FlowerChild> what does it mean?
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- [23:24] <FlowerChild> will I fuck with Eloraam as much as possible within *my own moral boundaries*?
- [23:24] <FlowerChild> absofuckinglutely
- [23:24] <slowpoke> ahh
- [23:24] <FlowerChild> and will I fuck you up the ass? Maybe :)
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- [23:25] <slowpoke> so its ok for you to fuck with someone else
- [23:25] <slowpoke> but when your the one getting fucked
- [23:25] <slowpoke> you cry
- [23:25] <FlowerChild> clarify please
- [23:25] <FlowerChild> oh ho...now you're going troll. That's ok, I can do that too :)
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- [23:25] <slowpoke> wheres the troll
- [23:25] <slowpoke> its a statement
- [23:25] <FlowerChild> "you cry"?
- [23:25] <FlowerChild> really now :)
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- [23:26] <FlowerChild> again man, escalate if you want...I am more than capable
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- [23:26] <slowpoke> you want to destroy eloraam
- [23:26] <slowpoke> thats ok
- [23:26] <slowpoke> someone copying your mod not OK
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