[17:26] <mindcalamity> mpreisler: Ident do you guys have any idea why this flicker would be happening ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRI2OChHJ-0
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[18:17] <korutsu> i tried to bolt-on cegui with following code https://github.com/kortemik/RBDOOM-3-BFG/commit/67a76df6ee35be38578fe2979e7b8fbff0581d47 however i get sigsegv http://codepad.org/s2DwmKnW
[18:19] <korutsu> by no means i have experience in c++ but for me it would be natural to do a malloc in  neo/sys/sdl/cegui.h
[18:19] <korutsu> before line 26
[18:22] <o^> korutsu: actually no
[18:22] <o^> what you are doing is that you're dereferencing the (invalid) pointer on the left hand side
[18:23] <o^> which probably causes the segfault
[18:25] <o^> do this instead: ceguiRenderer = &CEGUI::OpenGLRenderer::bootstrapSystem();
[18:26] <korutsu> it works very much great :)
[18:26] <korutsu> thank you for teaching me c++
[18:26] <o^> np
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[18:42] <korutsu> seems that it's not my only problem but at least it runs now for a while
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[19:33] <Ident> mindcalamity: no
[19:33] <Ident> which OS ? which GPU?
[19:33] <Ident> CEED renders in opengl using cegui, what u see there should also occur in your cegui application#
[19:33] <Ident> which i deem unlikely
[19:33] <Ident> so i suspect some driver issue
[19:35] <Ident> korutsu: what is that application, can u tell us about it?
[19:35] <Ident> i d like to add it to our list of games/projects that use cegui, in case its something cool
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[20:44] <Ident> ah well nvm, i guess you are trying to tie cegui into the existing implementation
[20:45] <mindcalamity> Ident: I did show my own app later in the video
[20:45] <mindcalamity> I'm on a GTX 550 Ti
[20:45] <mindcalamity> latest driver update
[20:45] <mindcalamity> happens with both DX and GL (OGRE)
[20:46] <Ident> ok
[20:46] <Ident> same questions as before
[20:46] <mindcalamity> which ones ?
[20:46] <Ident> the ones i asked you
[20:46] <Ident> read from top to bottom
[20:46] <Ident> and check which ones u didnt reply to
[20:46] <Ident> OS?
[20:46] <mindcalamity> Windows 8, GTX 550 Ti, CEGUI 0.8.x, OGRE (both render systems)
[20:46] <Ident> additionally always provide: cegui version
[20:47] <Ident> and the cegui renderer u use
[20:47] <Ident> as well as the version of the renderer
[20:47] <Ident> and in the case of ogre or irrlicht which renderer u selected
[20:47] <timotei_> Btw, Ident, what's one of the reasons to get rid of the Singletons in the codebase? (I seem to fail to understand right now why)
[20:47] <Ident> this is all in the cegui log btw
[20:47] <mindcalamity> Ident: so ask for the log :P
[20:47] <timotei_> For example, I'm working on the TreeView renderer, and it's really easy to get the ImageManager instance :D
[20:47] <mindcalamity> Ident: http://pastebin.com/zfJGsh4R
[20:47] <Ident> timotei_: bad design, the impossibility to create multiple instances (obviously you can have only one)
[20:48] <Ident> two big reasons, each one for themselves is reason enough for removal
[20:48] <Ident> singletons are rarely useful
[20:48] <Ident> and definitely not for ImageManager and System
[20:48] <Ident> t´hats just all-global-public laziness
[20:48] <Ident> mindcalamity: its in the forum posting guidelines, i thought its obvious
[20:49] <timotei_> Yes, but in which case, for example, you need more ImageManagers?
[20:49] <timotei_> Isn't image/resource groups enough to separate stuff?
[20:49] <Ident> what in heavens name is "Microsoft Windows MSVC++ Great Scott"
[20:49] <Ident> timotei_: two ceguis in one application
[20:50] <Ident> yes, there is need for such a thing sometimes
[20:50] <timotei_> OKey, I get it.
[20:50] <Ident> but seriously, the singletones in cegui are just bad design
[20:50] <Ident> so away with em anyway!
[20:50] <Ident> mindcalamity: thats very odd
[20:50] <Ident> can you reproduce this in the samplebrowser?
[20:51] <mindcalamity> Ident: ask he who put it there :D it's VC++ 2013
[20:51] <mindcalamity> I haven't compiled the samples
[20:51] <mindcalamity> I'll try
[20:51] <Ident> please do it
[20:51] <Ident> there is a drag n drop demo
[20:51] <mindcalamity> I know
[20:51] <Ident> yea
[20:51] <mindcalamity> Ident: is there a precompiled demo ?
[20:51] <Ident> u see where this is going
[20:51] <Ident> mindcalamity: no
[20:51] <mindcalamity> damn
[20:51] <Ident> how would that make sense in your case?
[20:52] <Ident> its inconclusive
[20:52] <Ident> possibly misleading even
[20:52] <Ident> the issue happens with both rendering systems?
[20:53] <mindcalamity> yes
[20:53] <mindcalamity> both DX and GL
[20:53] <mindcalamity> I'm using OGRE, but CEED uses the pure GL renderer
[20:53] <mindcalamity> so it's not OGRE-specific
[20:53] <Ident> mindcalamity: ogre version?
[20:54] <mindcalamity> 1.10
[20:54] <mindcalamity> from the repo
[20:54] <Ident> ceed version?
[20:54] <mindcalamity>  a few months ago
[20:54] <mindcalamity> latest one, I compiled the packed one
[20:57] <mindcalamity> http://pastebin.com/JYTNy1Wg
[20:57] <mindcalamity> What the actual fuck ?
[20:57] <Ident> cegui version?
[20:57] <mindcalamity> ah nvm
[20:57] <mindcalamity> OIS not found
[20:57] <mindcalamity> same one yo
[20:58] <Ident> it says OIS
[20:58] <Ident> then it says boost
[20:58] <Ident> wtf?
[20:58] <mindcalamity> right
[20:58] <mindcalamity> but boost is found
[20:58] <Ident> i remember changes on that
[20:58] <Ident> but i thought this was fixed..
[20:58] <mindcalamity> and the boost error is in red, the ois one is regular text
[20:58] <Ident> i dont wanna look into the cmake files
[20:58] <Ident> wellll
[20:58] <mindcalamity> this is the source release I think
[20:58] <mindcalamity> it's not from the repo
[20:58] <mindcalamity> 8.4
[20:59] <mindcalamity> I'll just disable the OGRE renderer
[20:59] <mindcalamity> I wanna test out the demo, don't need the renderer
[20:59] <mindcalamity> btw CEGUI checking for BOOST is stupid
[21:00] <mindcalamity> at least in the way it's done now
[21:00] <Ident> why
[21:00] <mindcalamity> I had compiled OGRE without boost
[21:00] <mindcalamity> and CEGUI had no idea it didn't need it
[21:00] <Ident> i m aware of this issue
[21:00] <Ident> there is NO WAY we can know if you compiled ogre without boost or not
[21:00] <mindcalamity> perhaps add a check of defines in OgreConfig.h or something
[21:00] <Ident> excuse me?
[21:00] <mindcalamity> let me make sure
[21:01] <Ident> i looked ati t once and i found no way to do this automatically
[21:01] <Ident> if u find a way pls make a PR
[21:01] <mindcalamity> just check OGRE_THREAD_PROVIDER
[21:01] <mindcalamity> I'll try
[21:01] <Ident> please do it
[21:01] <Ident> this has been bugging me for a while
[21:01] <mindcalamity> yeah
[21:01] <Ident> i didnt think of those defines
[21:01] <Ident> and currently i have 0 time
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[21:01] <Ident> so i cant do it
[21:02] <Ident> this drag and drop bug makes no sense man
[21:02] <Ident> i ve never seen this happen
[21:02] <mindcalamity> Ident: I can't seem to compile the demos xD
[21:03] <mindcalamity> I think visual studio is retarded
[21:03] <Ident> sorry this is not helpful
[21:03] <Ident> error logs or anything pleasew
[21:03] <Ident> i cant make any response like that
[21:03] <mindcalamity> yah I know, I was commenting that time :D
[21:03] <mindcalamity> it's the font demo and Ident game demo
[21:04] <mindcalamity> http://i.imgur.com/pjbT8CD.png
[21:04] <mindcalamity> I know what the problem is though
[21:04] <Ident> you changed the format of the file
[21:04] <mindcalamity> it's a compiler issue
[21:04] <Ident> no
[21:04] <mindcalamity> VS did it for me
[21:04] <Ident> i m pretty sure
[21:04] <Ident> VS
[21:04] <Ident> changed your file formatting
[21:04] <mindcalamity> yes it did
[21:04] <Ident> dont allow it to do that
[21:05] <Ident> thats nasty
[21:05] <mindcalamity> I have the japanese thingy
[21:05] <mindcalamity> added
[21:05] <mindcalamity> so it's causing some issues
[21:05] <Ident> no idea what a japanese thingy is
[21:05] <Ident> something perverted i assume
[21:06] <mindcalamity> lol
[21:06] <mindcalamity> system locale
[21:06] <mindcalamity> http://i.imgur.com/HCVBnaL.png
[21:06] <mindcalamity> so I can run japanese software
[21:10] <mindcalamity> Ident: http://i.imgur.com/vjNJ9du.png
[21:11] <Ident> mindcalamity: copy the samples folder fro mthe bin folder over..
[21:11] <Ident> datafiles/samples
[21:11] <Ident> in build
[21:11] <mindcalamity> I copied it into the path it showed me
[21:12] <mindcalamity> http://i.imgur.com/qKqxjsR.png
[21:12] <mindcalamity> NO
[21:12] <mindcalamity> damn
[21:12] <mindcalamity> I'm blind
[21:12] <mindcalamity> ..
[21:12] <mindcalamity> sorry
[21:14] <lucebac> mindcalamity: datafiles/samples/samples.xml should be the right path
[21:15] <mindcalamity> lucebac: that did it
[21:15] <mindcalamity> Ident: I'm not seeing the issue in the sample framework
[21:16] <Ident> mindcalamity: good
[21:16] <mindcalamity> good as in it's not a cegui bug
[21:16] <mindcalamity> bad as in  Ihave no idea what the fuck it is
[21:17] <Ident> it could still be a cegui bug
[21:17] <lucebac> mindcalamity: can you sum up what issue u are talking about? i dont want to read the whole backlog
[21:17] <Ident> do you use a root window that covers your entire screnn?
[21:17] <Ident> lucebac: watch the youtube video
[21:17] <mindcalamity> lucebac: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRI2OChHJ-0
[21:17] <mindcalamity> Ident: yeah I use a root window
[21:17] <mindcalamity> and add the layout to that
[21:18] <mindcalamity> so technically I have 1 root window for the whole ap
[21:18] <mindcalamity> and another for the layout
[21:18] <mindcalamity> they both cover the whole screen
[21:18] <Ident> egh
[21:19] <Ident> why dont u set your layout as the new root
[21:19] <mindcalamity> ill try
[21:22] <mindcalamity> Ident: same issue
[21:22] <mindcalamity> Ident: do you have CEED ?
[21:22] <Ident> mindcalamity: my GSOC project is in CEED
[21:23] <Ident> i rarely develop blindly
[21:23] <mindcalamity> Ident: can I give you the layout and can try ?
[21:23] <mindcalamity> and you try it * ?
[21:23] <Ident> sure
[21:23] <Ident> will u include the looknfeel
[21:23] <Ident> and imageset stuff?
[21:23] <Ident> also a .project ifle would be candy
[21:23] <Ident> file*
[21:23] <mindcalamity> yeah
[21:24] <Ident> i got to go in 15 mins so meh
[21:28] <mindcalamity> Ident: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/undefined/
[21:28] <Ident> downloading
[21:28] <Ident> well
[21:28] <Ident> lol
[21:28] <Ident> check ur link
[21:29] <mindcalamity> wow
[21:29] <mindcalamity> http://www.mediafire.com/download/e64fiqiwmrmcrhp/CEGUI.rar
[21:29] <Ident> people still use rar?
[21:31] <mindcalamity> yep
[21:31] <mindcalamity> just so used to the UI
[21:36] <mindcalamity> Ident: did you download it ?
[21:36] <Ident> mindcalamity: yes
[21:36] <Ident> i m playing with it
[21:36] <mindcalamity> does it work ?
[21:36] <Ident> no
[21:36] <mindcalamity> it flickers ?
[21:36] <Ident> yes
[21:36] <mindcalamity> awesome
[21:36] <mindcalamity> :D
[21:36] <Ident> when i stop dragging
[21:36] <Ident> it disappears
[21:36] <Ident> basically it doesnt rerender the window
[21:36] <Ident> movement triggers renders
[21:37] <mindcalamity> yeah
[21:37] <Ident> but oncei ts still
[21:37] <Ident> nothing is triggered
[21:37] <mindcalamity> I do inject time pulses in case that's the issue
[21:37] <Ident> CEED.
[21:37] <Ident> ceed should do everything right
[21:37] <Ident> mindcalamity:
[21:37] <mindcalamity> yep\
[21:37] <Ident> u want some fun stuff?
[21:38] <mindcalamity> sure
[21:38] <Ident> set autorendering to true
[21:38] <Ident> the window is now rendered but cant be dragged outside the parent
[21:38] <mindcalamity> yep
[21:38] <mindcalamity> that did it
[21:38] <Ident> cant be dragged!
[21:38] <Ident> outside
[21:39] <Ident> or it disppears
[21:39] <Ident> = wtf
[21:39] <mindcalamity> mhm
[21:39] <mindcalamity> why though
[21:39] <Ident> mindcalamity:
[21:39] <Ident> set autorendering surface on false for the framewindow
[21:39] <Ident> now everything works, no matter what
[21:40] <mindcalamity> wait is True default on framewindow ?
[21:40] <Ident> yes
[21:40] <Ident> its the only window that has it on true afaik
[21:40] <Ident> and it makes sense
[21:40] <Ident> and no, this issue isnt normal
[21:40] <Ident> this is a bug
[21:40] <mindcalamity> huh
[21:40] <Ident> please create a mantis bug report
[21:40] <Ident> attach your files there
[21:40] <Ident> and the chat log
[21:41] <mindcalamity> will do
[21:41] <Ident> until we fix this please just set what we talked about to False
[21:41] <mindcalamity> yeah
[21:41] <mindcalamity> http://cegui.org.uk/mantis
[21:41] <Ident> this will be fine and has no real sideffects
[21:41] <mindcalamity> there right ?
[21:41] <Ident> yes
[21:41] <Ident> we only have one mantis :D
[21:41] <Ident> bug reporter
[21:41] <mindcalamity> OGRE had multiple, so had to ask xD
[21:42] <Ident> ew
[21:42] <Ident> thats bad
[21:42] <Ident> btw nice images
[21:42] <mindcalamity> happened while they moved to JIRA
[21:42] <mindcalamity> which ones ? the spells ?
[21:42] <mindcalamity> :D
[21:42] <Ident> ye
[21:42] <Ident> reminds me of WC3 art
[21:42] <mindcalamity> because those are from LoL
[21:42] <Ident> warcraft 3
[21:42] <Ident> oh
[21:42] <Ident> nasty
[21:42] <mindcalamity> hehe
[21:42] <Ident> i didnt play LoL in a while
[21:42] <mindcalamity> I'm just prototyping
[21:42] <Ident> well
[21:43] <mindcalamity> have to use some placeholders
[21:43] <mindcalamity> I can't seem to stop playing it tho :(
[21:44] <mindcalamity> Ident:  should I file it as CoreLibrary or Datafiles ?
[21:44] <Ident> neither
[21:44] <Ident> oh
[21:44] <Ident> CoreLibrary
[21:44] <Ident> this has nothing to do with datafiles
[21:44] <Ident> pls mention it occurs in all renderers and CEED
[21:45] <mindcalamity> right
[21:45] <mindcalamity> but it doesn't in the demos
[21:45] <mindcalamity> maybe it's an AlfiskoSkin issue ?
[21:46] <mindcalamity> Ident: how much of the chatlog should I include ?
[21:46] <Ident> the demos probably have different settings
[21:46] <Ident> we just discussed this
[21:46] <Ident> mindcalamity: all
[21:46] <Ident> especially this line