pichusToday at 2:11 AM
im really not a fan of gen5
we can do something like a random OM every week
so stabmons ag week1, aaa ag week2 etc etc
that will also attract the oms players so thats cool
3 Usum / 2 oras / 1 om or 4 Usum / 1 oras / 1om sounds fine

pichusToday at 2:38 AM
also, lets post the manager signups next week? so that round 1 starts right after OMPL finals

icemaster523Today at 3:02 AM
Possibly
STABmons AG would be too busted thoufh
Would be near unplayable due to just 6 shell smash arcs or whatever

ChloeToday at 3:58 AM
random format every week doesn't sit well with me
might as well do 4sm 2 oras at that point
Especially bc these formats you're suggesting aren't developed

CatalysticToday at 6:31 AM
Let’s not
Do random
Are we doing 6 or 8 slots

CatalysticToday at 6:39 AM
I think I’d rather do 6 teams 8 slots
Than 8 teams 6 slots

ChloeToday at 6:41 AM
6 teams 6 slots I assume
We don't have enough players for 6*8(edited)
nor enough formats
we need players for subs too

Frogger1387Today at 6:43 AM
What about blitz ag its pretty fun to play and easy enough for people to prep for

icemaster523Today at 6:50 AM
I don't think thatd be so good for a forum tour
Especially when calcing and thinking is more serious there

Frogger1387Today at 7:11 AM
I just think it would fit better then adding an om but im also not against the idea of 4 sumo 2 oras

CatalysticToday at 7:15 AM
I’m not too worried about players tbh

Mr. BeanToday at 7:15 AM
I am 6x6 no blitz no bw
Brief thoughts at work

CatalysticToday at 7:16 AM
altho yea we're
hard strapped for formats
we can do
2x ORAS 3x USUM 1x Bo3

Frogger1387Today at 7:18 AM
I like the sound of that

CatalysticToday at 7:23 AM
i do think we have enough players tho but maybe we release manager sign ups and player signs ups at the same time to gauge how many teams we can afford?
👍
1
if we're short we can stick with 6

pichusToday at 7:28 AM
6*6 - 2 bo3 usum, 2 bo1 usum, 1 bo3 oras and 1 bo1 oras
?

CatalysticToday at 7:33 AM
uh
we want a bo3 oras?

pichusToday at 7:34 AM
idk
bo1 works

ChloeToday at 7:34 AM
bo1 for both oras imo

pichusToday at 7:35 AM
do we even have 12 oras players btw?

CatalysticToday at 7:36 AM
it's fine
oras ubers players are everywhere
people like gunnerpohjis will wander in

ChloeToday at 7:36 AM
I will sign up for oras ag

CatalysticToday at 7:36 AM
also chloe here
is busted at oras ag
LOL

ChloeToday at 7:36 AM
only tier I was ever good at

pichusToday at 7:37 AM
okay fine
i thouhgt u were going to manage

CatalysticToday at 7:37 AM
it's ok chloe
i was never good
i mean
manager self purchase
better be a thing

ChloeToday at 7:37 AM
I ain't managing
I wouldn't know who to pick for sm

pichusToday at 7:37 AM
i dont like the idea of self purchase
what if thimo and hunter decide to manage
D:::
manage together**

CatalysticToday at 7:38 AM
?
so
imagine not allowing self purchase
we can just do the monotype thing where we collectively vote how much a manager self purchase should cost individually for each manager
to balance it

pichusToday at 7:39 AM
ehhh idk

CatalysticToday at 7:39 AM
like
if ur not gonna allow manager self purchase
we're losing 6 players or even more
and we're already hard strapped :frowning:
plus every other PL has manager slef purchase BUT OMPL lmao

ChloeToday at 7:40 AM
I'm the reason ompl doesn't have self purchase

CatalysticToday at 7:40 AM
lmao
why

ChloeToday at 7:41 AM
I was shit and didn't want jrdn playing

CatalysticToday at 7:41 AM
meanie.
ok ngl
jordan's kinda dead
LMAO

ChloeToday at 7:41 AM
rip
tbf it was last year I rly pushed for it
And I think ti agreed with me

CatalysticToday at 7:41 AM
wdym
pushed for
self purchase
or no self purchase

ChloeToday at 7:42 AM
no sp

CatalysticToday at 7:42 AM
oh
i mean TI can't play
so i can see why he'd push for it
but i feel like we should probably have it here

ChloeToday at 7:43 AM
I agree

pichusToday at 7:44 AM
idk i just dont want very good players teaming up
we wanna see quality players play against each other, not with each other
does that make sense

CatalysticToday at 7:45 AM
no
are u worried about balance
LOL

ChloeToday at 7:45 AM
I think most of the auth or the people who we'd want managing are good players anyway

pichusToday at 7:45 AM
yeah kinda

CatalysticToday at 7:45 AM
hm
i've seen an interesting system for this
give me a sec

pichusToday at 7:46 AM
imagine if skarph and zen decide to manage together and they pick another top player
thats already a very stacked team

CatalysticToday at 7:46 AM
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ChloeToday at 7:46 AM
It'd be one manager per team
I assume

CatalysticToday at 7:46 AM
i mean
yea
sure
skarph and zen
could manage togehter

pichusToday at 7:47 AM
lets just allow 1 manager to play

CatalysticToday at 7:47 AM
then they'd spend a whopping 22.5k on themselves

pichusToday at 7:47 AM
y/y ?

CatalysticToday at 7:47 AM
well consider this
skarph and zen
spend 22.5k on themselves
that's 45k out of 80

pichusToday at 7:47 AM
thats reasonable

CatalysticToday at 7:47 AM
u know what other team w eknow
spent 45k on 2 tiers
bedroom blisseys

ChloeToday at 7:47 AM
The Bedroom Blisseys

CatalysticToday at 7:48 AM
sure andy and mamp are doing fine
but look at their ag aaa stab lmao.

pichusToday at 7:48 AM
but we only have AG in ompl
skarph and zen
+ 1 gen 6 player
is all they need

CatalysticToday at 7:48 AM
i mean

pichusToday at 7:48 AM
i mean
agpl*

CatalysticToday at 7:48 AM
i don't see this being TOO big of an issue
simply because every other fucking premier league does it

pichusToday at 7:49 AM
:neutral_face:

birbToday at 8:15 AM
If there's no self purchase then you have to subtract 6-12 from our already limited playerbase
So it's not even an option imo

CatalysticToday at 8:18 AM
hi @birb
@pichus is worried skarph + zen self purchase for 45k/80k is too unfair
help.

pichusToday at 8:18 AM
look i really dont wanna explain again

CatalysticToday at 8:19 AM
no like
u don't have to
i can explain for u
LOL

birbToday at 8:19 AM
22.5k for self purchase?

CatalysticToday at 8:19 AM
yea so
pichus is thinking

birbToday at 8:19 AM
Whomst's ass did that come from

CatalysticToday at 8:19 AM
ok
that was a HIGH estimate i gave her
and she STILL thinks it's broken
like the argument is

pichusToday at 8:20 AM
i just dont understand why I wouldnt want to draft the 2 best players who can build for 4/6 tiers for 45k

CatalysticToday at 8:20 AM
uh
i mean

birbToday at 8:20 AM
Can I suggest someth

CatalysticToday at 8:20 AM
ye

birbToday at 8:20 AM
The easy solution here is 1 manager teams
That way nobody can stack the deck

CatalysticToday at 8:21 AM
what if someone wants a co
wait
do most premier leagues
have a co

birbToday at 8:21 AM
They can select a co from their pool of players
It depends
DPL didn't, MPL does, UPL...kinda did?

pichusToday at 8:21 AM
this
makes more sense

CatalysticToday at 8:22 AM
MPL is dual
UPL is dual

pichusToday at 8:22 AM
because now the top players arent 100% gonna be on the same team

CatalysticToday at 8:22 AM
NUPL is single

birbToday at 8:22 AM
It's mixed basically

CatalysticToday at 8:22 AM
bro

birbToday at 8:22 AM
and my perception is in tiers where the skill gap is higher 1 manager works better

CatalysticToday at 8:22 AM
sure
that works

pichusToday at 8:22 AM
okay fine so
1 manager per team
and they pick one co from their team after the draft
ok?

CatalysticToday at 8:23 AM
i mean
they can
they have the o p t i o n to
@PurpleGatorade guess we're not co managing

birbToday at 8:23 AM
Or alternatively they can also pick a co-manager who won't play
Maybe
nah too convoluted

CatalysticToday at 8:23 AM
nah fuck that
or
u can call them
an AssMan
it's fine
since @pichus ehre
relaly thinks skarph + zen is broken as fuck
watch as zen drafts skarph for 22.5k
LMAO
i'd laugh

pichusToday at 8:25 AM
yeah but atleast they arent 100% gonna be on the same team

birbToday at 8:25 AM
if it's so broken

pichusToday at 8:25 AM
since the other managers can pay more

birbToday at 8:25 AM
pichus can upbid

CatalysticToday at 8:25 AM
which i really think it isn't

birbToday at 8:25 AM
to 67k

CatalysticToday at 8:25 AM
u right.
isn't it
59 k

birbToday at 8:25 AM
w/e
idk

pichusToday at 8:25 AM
:[
u guys are mean

birbToday at 8:25 AM
yep

CatalysticToday at 8:26 AM
who's hosting btw

pichusToday at 8:26 AM
i dont care about winning or losing, i just dont want 3 stacked teams and 5 bad ones

CatalysticToday at 8:26 AM
yea that won't happen dw
actually
@pichus
that'll probably happen
people are
REALLY bad at drafting

SkarphToday at 11:27 AM
i'd like to manage but zen and I alrdy talked about this and aren't gonna be on the same team
also i was thinking about how it kinda
sucks to play and manage
like basically you get to make any decision you want and that's final, like.... OH I CAN JUST CHOOSE MYSELF FOR EVERY USUM BO3 SLOT, gG
basically that
but
i guess the easy solution is to
not do that
like having yourself and a co-manager play every week, even if you think it's the best thing for the team just...will seem corrupt
i also agree on the gen 5 thing
i was thinking that'll turn into a huge meme that you'll put your players in who need to get some playing time
unless we can find 10 people who know how to play that shit

Mr. BeanToday at 12:02 PM
It doesn’t seem corrupt
And it works in other PLs
Like in PUPL we had managers know they were worth and we had managers who didn’t buy themselves and nobody’s hung up on it
Also no gen 5

SkarphToday at 12:08 PM
ok
i dont really get how the managers are gonna have to buy themselves and how that price will be estimated but does that take place during the draft or what(edited)
its not like the other managers can bid on another manager LOL i just really dk how we're supposed to say "yeah, that guy is 10k, 15k, 20k" and so on

Mr. BeanToday at 12:13 PM
Well yeah I assume we’d do what every other setup does