Sunday Night Chatroom 2015/030/08

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[17:57] == mode/#mmrpg [+o MegaBossMan] by MetaKirbSter

[17:57] <@MetaKirbSter> Already done.

[17:57] <@MetaKirbSter> Anyway

[17:57] <PhoenixWright> Phoenix Wright

[17:57] <PhoenixWright> present for the "Case:

[17:57] <PhoenixWright> *case

[17:57] <PhoenixWright> or cases

[17:58] == MetaKirbSter changed the topic of #mmrpg to: Legacy Sunday Night Chat's 03/8/15

[17:58] <@MetaKirbSter> Ok.

[17:58] <PhoenixWright> ...

[17:58] <ThatGuyNamedMike> Laguage, Ender.

[17:58] <@MetaKirbSter> Who has ideas?

[17:58]  * MetaKirbSter Needs to know.

[17:58] <ThatGuyNamedMike> Meeting hsn't started, yet.

[17:58] <ThatGuyNamedMike> But, I do.

[17:59] <TailsMK4> I have no ideas...but more of stories/bugs to report.

[17:59] <@MegaBossMan> By the way, I should note something.

[17:59] <PhoenixWright> i have no ideas

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[17:59] <PhoenixWright> but i shall be streaming the Legacy Chat

[17:59] <@MegaBossMan> Can we lean off a bit on the off-hand topics?

[17:59] <PhoenixWright> for youtube :D

[17:59] <@MetaKirbSter> K.

[17:59] <@MetaKirbSter> Do it.

[18:00] <@MetaKirbSter> @Phoenix

[18:00] <TailsMK4> So...I'll probably go last in tonight's discussion...depending on how long this lasts.

[18:00] <@MetaKirbSter> Pheonix...

[18:00] <@MetaKirbSter> K...

[18:00] <@MetaKirbSter> Well

[18:00] <@MetaKirbSter> I dont have much ideas

[18:00] <@MetaKirbSter> Just one mikey had on the General thing i thinl

[18:01] <ThatGuyNamedMike> Oh, man! Mikey not going last in 2 consecutive chats! CRAZY!

[18:01] <@MetaKirbSter> *k

[18:01] <@MetaKirbSter> K.

[18:01] <@MegaBossMan> Woah!

[18:01] <@MetaKirbSter> Phoenix...

[18:01] <@MetaKirbSter> Huh?

[18:01] <@MetaKirbSter> @MBM

[18:01] <TailsMK4> But yeah, I got quite to talk about with my "second" quest of the entire prototype.

[18:01] <TailsMK4> *quite a bit to

[18:01] <@MetaKirbSter> k.

[18:01] <PhoenixWright> streaming

[18:01] <PhoenixWright> in 3......2.......1

[18:02] <PhoenixWright> Streaming now

[18:02] <@MetaKirbSter> Alright

[18:02] <PhoenixWright> ....so silent

[18:02] <@MetaKirbSter> Lets get the show on the road

[18:02] <@MegaBossMan> Let's get started.

[18:02] <TailsMK4> ...Anyone else have something to say?

[18:02] <ThatOneEnderMan> Hey youtube, again

[18:03] <@MegaBossMan> And no off-hand discussions!

[18:03] <@MetaKirbSter> Hey youtube

[18:03] <PhoenixWright> ...

[18:03] <@MetaKirbSter> We're doing Sunday night legact

[18:03] <TailsMK4> (grabs some popcorn and waits for his turn)

[18:03] <@MetaKirbSter> *y

[18:03] <PhoenixWright> hafta refresh

[18:03] <@MetaKirbSter> Me, Phoenix, tails

[18:03] <@MegaBossMan> Guys, focus.

[18:03] <TailsMK4> (...has groceries to get anyway)

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[18:03] <@MetaKirbSter> MBM, Mikey, Ender, Doc.

[18:03] <@MetaKirbSter> anyway

[18:03]  * TheDoc shares Tails' popcorn

[18:03] <@MetaKirbSter> >:)

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[18:03] <PhoenixWright> back

[18:03]  * MetaKirbSter IS BEGINNING

[18:03] <PhoenixWright> working now

[18:03]  * MetaKirbSter IS WAITING

[18:04]  * MetaKirbSter WANTS TO KNOW WHO HAS IDEAS!

[18:04] <ThatOneEnderMan> No

[18:04] <PhoenixWright> >caps much?

[18:04] <@MetaKirbSter> K.

[18:04] <@MetaKirbSter> Anyway

[18:04] <@MegaBossMan> Alright, who wants to start?

[18:04] <@MetaKirbSter> Who has ideas?

[18:04] <TheDoc> Hey Metakirb, how about you let MBM guide the discussion?

[18:04] <@MetaKirbSter> first, who has ideas

[18:04] <PhoenixWright> i'm just here for Video Archive

[18:04] <@MetaKirbSter> K.

[18:04] <ThatGuyNamedMike> I do.

[18:04] <@MetaKirbSter> I'll go first

[18:04] <@MetaKirbSter> Ok. So,

[18:05] <@MetaKirbSter> There was this old thread...

[18:05] <@MetaKirbSter> Mikey had ideas in.

[18:05] <@MetaKirbSter> I'm gonna talk about one of them

[18:05] <@MetaKirbSter> (Well, 3 i guess)

[18:05] <@MetaKirbSter> First.

[18:05] <PhoenixWright> please use full sentences,....i kinda want to get all ideas at once with a single post and not multiple posts for the Video Archive please

[18:05] <@MetaKirbSter> The E, A, S, And D+ Tanks.

[18:06] <@MetaKirbSter> These are tanks That increase Energy, attack, speed, and defense

[18:06] <@MetaKirbSter> As mikey said.

[18:06] <PhoenixWright> Energy, Attack, Speed, and Defense+ Tanks,...of course

[18:06] <@MetaKirbSter> And, they raise the thing by 5.

[18:06] <TheDoc> Well E-Tanks are already a thing

[18:07] <@MetaKirbSter> Say, you have 595 health and your team is all lvl 100's with fine stats

[18:07] <@MetaKirbSter> Energy plus.

[18:07] <@MetaKirbSter> It raises energy by 5 points

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[18:07] <@MetaKirbSter> So then, you would have 600.

[18:07] <TailsMK4_> (browser froze, just ignore me)

[18:07] <@MegaBossMan> Like Attack Capsules?

[18:08] <TheDoc> Akin to the vitamins in Pokemon games?

[18:08] <@MegaBossMan> And Etc?

[18:08] <@MetaKirbSter> So, same goes for attack, speed, and defense

[18:08] <@MetaKirbSter> Yes MBM.

[18:08] <@MetaKirbSter> Next

[18:08] <@MetaKirbSter> Is the idea for something with the Yasachi, And all credit goes to mikey,

[18:08] <@MetaKirbSter> Anyway

[18:08] <ThatGuyNamedMike> *Yashichi

[18:08] <@MegaBossMan> Alright, who's next?

[18:08] <@MetaKirbSter> It's about...

[18:09] <PhoenixWright> Yashichi,...i found one on the MM8BDM on i think Frost-Man

[18:09] <ThatGuyNamedMike> I don't think he's finished, Boss.

[18:09] <PhoenixWright> *'s stage

[18:09] <@MegaBossMan> Oh.

[18:09] <PhoenixWright> but i had to use No-Clip/ God-Mod

[18:09] <PhoenixWright> *mode

[18:09] <@MetaKirbSter> Making it to where it doesnt have the part where you take 0 damage.

[18:09] <TheDoc> Yea I replied to that

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[18:09] <@MetaKirbSter> That's it for that part, NOW FOR PART, 3.

[18:09] <@MetaKirbSter> Part 3

[18:09] <TheDoc> Adrian made it that way so that it would be different form the Extra life

[18:09] <TheDoc> *from

[18:10] <@MetaKirbSter> Is where you have these Tanks that Cure status effects

[18:10] <@MetaKirbSter> You know, like Poke

[18:10] <@MetaKirbSter> *Poke'mon

[18:10] <PhoenixWright> Antidote, Full Cure

[18:10] <@MetaKirbSter> *Pokemon

[18:10] <PhoenixWright> the works xD

[18:10] <@MetaKirbSter> yeah.

[18:10] <@MetaKirbSter> And that type's status will be cured

[18:10] <@MetaKirbSter> With a 20% health recovery

[18:11] <@MetaKirbSter> Though i think it should be 5%...

[18:11] <@MetaKirbSter> Alright, Next person

[18:11] <TheDoc> I think it should be 0%

[18:11] <PhoenixWright> um,.....idk if it would be or not,..but wouldn't that be tedious or something?

[18:11] <@MetaKirbSter> Anyway...

[18:11] <PhoenixWright> 5% or 20% Health Recovery, for something to cure Element Effects?

[18:11] <@MetaKirbSter> Well

[18:11] <@MetaKirbSter> 0%.

[18:12] <@MetaKirbSter> anyway

[18:12] <@MetaKirbSter> PhoenixWright,

[18:12] <@MetaKirbSter> Do you have ideas?

[18:12] <@MetaKirbSter> (Wait... your here for the archives)

[18:12] <PhoenixWright> ya

[18:12] <PhoenixWright> i am here for the Archives,...DURRH!

[18:12] <PhoenixWright> plus Boss,..i'll post the Link for the video so you don't have to do a Pastebin

[18:13] <TheDoc> I feel like a pastebin would be better than a video

[18:13] <TheDoc> But that's my opinion Idk abt MBM

[18:13] <@MegaBossMan> Adrian would prefer a PB.

[18:13] <TheDoc> Cool

[18:13] <TailsMK4_> Pastebins are better since they're much easier to look at.

[18:14] <@MetaKirbSter> Yes...

[18:14] <TailsMK4_> Plus, copy and pasting can be done too.

[18:14] <@MetaKirbSter> 2/7 down.

[18:14] <@MetaKirbSter> So,

[18:14] <@MetaKirbSter> Who'se next?

[18:14] <PhoenixWright> well

[18:14] <@MetaKirbSter> ThatOneEnderMan

[18:14] <PhoenixWright> both will be posted anyways

[18:14] <@MetaKirbSter> Do you have ideas?

[18:15] <@MetaKirbSter> Uh...

[18:15] <@MetaKirbSter> -_-

[18:15] <@MetaKirbSter> As MBM says

[18:15] <@MetaKirbSter> Surely, We should have some volunteers.

[18:16] <@MetaKirbSter> *Ahem*

[18:16] <@MetaKirbSter> Uh guys

[18:16] <@MetaKirbSter> Tails?

[18:16] <ThatGuyNamedMike> No one? No one at all?

[18:16] <@MetaKirbSter> Doc?

[18:16]  * TheDoc shakes head

[18:16] <@MetaKirbSter> 2/7 done BTW

[18:16] <TheDoc> I'm here for the cuukeez. You know that

[18:16] <TailsMK4_> (still waiting for his turn)

[18:16] <@MetaKirbSter> 3/7 done.

[18:16] <@MetaKirbSter> TAILS

[18:16] <@MetaKirbSter> ITS YOUR TIME

[18:16] <@MetaKirbSter> TailsMK4_

[18:16] <TheDoc> Tails said he's going last

[18:16] <ThatGuyNamedMike> ....does that mean it's my turn?

[18:16] <TailsMK4_> No one else has anything to say?

[18:17] <@MetaKirbSter> oh

[18:17] <TheDoc> @Mikey yes

[18:17] <@MetaKirbSter> 4/7.

[18:17] <@MegaBossMan> I suppose

[18:17] <@MetaKirbSter> No ender

[18:17] <@MetaKirbSter> So,

[18:17] <@MetaKirbSter> T,M,other M

[18:17] <ThatGuyNamedMike> No announcements from Adrian, Boss?

[18:17] <@MetaKirbSter> MegaBossMan Do you have anything?

[18:17] <PhoenixWright> wait

[18:17] <@MetaKirbSter> You said  you may have a idea

[18:17] <@MetaKirbSter> Also Phoenix

[18:17] <PhoenixWright> ....those,....score pellets....

[18:18] <@MetaKirbSter> Yeah...

[18:18] <@MetaKirbSter> I mentioned them last time...

[18:18] <@MegaBossMan> nope.

[18:18] <@MetaKirbSter> Also

[18:18] <TheDoc> Then Mikey's up

[18:18] <@MetaKirbSter> Typo, "Legeacy"

[18:18] <PhoenixWright> they still drive a hole in my mind,...like they shouldn't be there

[18:18] <@MetaKirbSter> K

[18:18] <@MetaKirbSter> 5/7

[18:18] <ThatGuyNamedMike> mmmkay. then, it's my turn.

[18:18] <@MetaKirbSter> Mikey, and Tails

[18:18] <PhoenixWright> something seriously seems wrong about those Pellets

[18:18] <ThatGuyNamedMike> *ahem*

[18:18] <TailsMK4_> (grabs his popcorn again)

[18:19]  * TheDoc slurps noisely

[18:19] == MetaKirbSter changed the topic of #mmrpg to: Legacy Sunday Night Chat's 03/8/15 5/7 people done

[18:19] <@MetaKirbSter> Anyway

[18:19] <PhoenixWright> *was going through my Paper-Work*

[18:19] <@MetaKirbSter> Ok...

[18:19] <ThatGuyNamedMike> First up and an idea that both Tails AND myself thought up;

[18:19] <@MetaKirbSter> So, Mikey?

[18:19] <@MegaBossMan> Go ahead, Mike.

[18:19] <ThatGuyNamedMike> *is an idea

[18:19] == MetaKirbSter changed the topic of #mmrpg to: Legacy Sunday Night Chat's 03/8/15 Mikeys Turn

[18:19] <ThatGuyNamedMike> Question, first:

[18:19] == mode/#mmrpg [+o ThatGuyNamedMike] by MetaKirbSter

[18:19] <@MetaKirbSter> K.

[18:20] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> Does anyone thing that having 99 of any item is necessary in this game?

[18:20] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> *think

[18:20] <@MetaKirbSter> Uh... No not really

[18:20] <@MetaKirbSter> Unless

[18:20] <TheDoc> Depends on what you have in mind :P

[18:20] <@MegaBossMan> *raises hand*

[18:20] <@MetaKirbSter> Unless you Really need it.

[18:20] <TheDoc> But no

[18:20] <@MetaKirbSter> No...

[18:20] <PhoenixWright> um,......kinda

[18:20] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> Oh? do tell, Boss.

[18:20] <@MetaKirbSter> Though you'll end up with it anyway

[18:21] <PhoenixWright> in my point it does seem a bit nessesary

[18:21] <PhoenixWright> for a random accomplishment...i guess

[18:21] <@MegaBossMan> No, go ahead.

[18:21] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> You raised your hand.

[18:21] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> :P

[18:21] <TheDoc> I wanna see what Mikey has to say ni place of 99x items

[18:21] <TheDoc> *in

[18:21] <@MetaKirbSter> K...

[18:21] <@MetaKirbSter> He already made new item ideas That i Used Here

[18:22] <@MetaKirbSter> (I'll give you the key i STO- BORROWED)

[18:22] <@MetaKirbSter> Anyway...

[18:22] <TheDoc> Meta let Mikey speak

[18:22] <@MegaBossMan> MIke, goa head.

[18:22] <TailsMK4_> Having 99 of something doesn't really help...in what single battle would you need more than 9 of a single item?

[18:22] <@MegaBossMan> *go ahead

[18:22] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> But, anyway, it's impossible to actually think of a situation where you need 99 of anything in this game.

[18:22] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> ...for me, anyway.

[18:22] <PhoenixWright> well i have a Situation

[18:22] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> Oh?

[18:22] <@MegaBossMan> It's storing your items.

[18:23] <PhoenixWright> Final Destination 3 for Light, Wily, and Cossack

[18:23] <@MetaKirbSter> OH... Ok. i thought you meant PB

[18:23] <PhoenixWright> if your a noob,...like Pega

[18:23] <@MetaKirbSter> (XD)

[18:23] <TheDoc> @Meta You can't use items in PB :P

[18:23] <@MetaKirbSter> @Doc i know

[18:23] <TailsMK4_> If anything, I think having 99 items has only served to help make more Zenny.

[18:23] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> You need 99 extra lives? Why not just bring your 8 most powerful robots?

[18:24] <@MetaKirbSter> @Mike Very true.

[18:24] <@MegaBossMan> I understand limiting how much you can use in battle.

[18:24] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> Seriously, you might need FIVE, tops, and that's it.

[18:24] <PhoenixWright> or the ones with the most WE A.K.A Weapons Energy

[18:24] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> Plus, 99 extra lives/yashichis make bosses in this game a joke.

[18:25] <PhoenixWright> i have to admit

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[18:25] <@MegaBossMan> Plus, a limit on how much you could use could be changed by difficulty....

[18:25] <PhoenixWright> if items were allowed to be used in PB,..i would be 2nd page.....again

[18:25] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> Anything more than 9 would be completely and utterly overkill, though.

[18:25] <@MegaBossMan> Yeah, ok.

[18:25] <@MegaBossMan> But only in battle.

[18:26] <TheDoc> @MBM Good idea

[18:26] == MetaKirbSter_ was kicked from #mmrpg by MetaKirbSter [wibble]

[18:26] <@MegaBossMan> "The doctors have limited resources and don't want to waste too much."

[18:26] <PhoenixWright> ??

[18:26] <@MegaBossMan> I believe that is a direct quote.

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[18:27] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> then, why are we allowing 99 of stuff? :P

[18:27] <@MegaBossMan> Hilariously, I'm reading an article about video game items and their quantity.

[18:27] <@MegaBossMan> But, it's things to be planned.

[18:28] <@MegaBossMan> After all, we don't have limits ANYWHERE yet.

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[18:28] <@MetaKirbSter> We should only need 15 or so Normal items

[18:28] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> Yes, we do.

[18:28] <PhoenixWright> Rhyth,

[18:28] <PhoenixWright> *m

[18:28] <@MetaKirbSter> Sup Rhythm!

[18:28] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> 8 bots. :P

[18:28] <PhoenixWright> did you see my ranking? also,...welcome

[18:28] <@MegaBossMan> Yes, we do what?

[18:28] <TailsMK4_> Heck, in most recent games...it's practically pointless to have Extra Lives.

[18:28] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> How's it going, Rhythm?

[18:29] <@MetaKirbSter> Rhythm

[18:29] <@MetaKirbSter> Guess what i am now?

[18:29] <PhoenixWright> @TailsMK4,...exactly,...unless your playing something like,...well the Mega-Man X Collection for select consoles

[18:29] <TheDoc> So you suggest to limit items to 9 per battle?

[18:29] <@MetaKirbSter> *!

[18:29] <Rhythm_BCA> hi hi hi hi hi

[18:29] <@MegaBossMan> I'm fine with a limit of 9.

[18:29] <@MegaBossMan> Now back to the topic.

[18:29] <@MetaKirbSter> (Rhythm go to my PM)

[18:29] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> 9 in your inventory, PERIOD. anything more is handing a free pass to players to by 50 1-ups to make a boss look foolish.

[18:30] <@MegaBossMan> Focus.

[18:30] <@MegaBossMan> No, too far.

[18:30] <@MegaBossMan> 9 of each item.

[18:30] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> ^

[18:30] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> Isn't that what I said?

[18:30] <@MetaKirbSter> True.

[18:30] <TheDoc> 9 per battle but not in inventory

[18:30] <@MetaKirbSter> I see.

[18:30] <@MegaBossMan> No, you just said that about items.

[18:30] <@MetaKirbSter> What about cores?

[18:31] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> I mean, only 9 of each item in your inventory instead of NINETY-nine.

[18:31] <TheDoc> I have NO idea what's happening to cores after the update

[18:31] <TheDoc> So I'm just gonna disregard that for now

[18:31] <@MetaKirbSter> @MIKEY

[18:31] <PhoenixWright> ....

[18:31] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> Cores should just go away, anyway. :P

[18:31] <@MetaKirbSter> anyway...

[18:31] <PhoenixWright> i'm split recording again btw..

[18:31] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> Anyhoo, my 2nd idea:

[18:31] <@MetaKirbSter> ^^^

[18:31] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> [of 3]

[18:31] <@MetaKirbSter> ^^

[18:31] <TailsMK4_> Cores are a nice source of income.

[18:31] <@MetaKirbSter> ^

[18:32] <@MetaKirbSter> @MIKEY AND TAILS

[18:32] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> You all probably know of The Doc's recent arrival to the top of the LEaderboards.

[18:33] <@MetaKirbSter> *Which he needs all starforce

[18:33] <@MetaKirbSter> What about Me Though? I'm 34th to 10th in a few weeks...

[18:33] <PhoenixWright> @all surprisingly,...i am laughing at you all,..for i am ranked 24th amongst you all

[18:34] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> Crazily enough, he made it up here with PRECISELY 590 Stars.

[18:34] <PhoenixWright> and have not achieved all stars

[18:34] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> More proof that Stars are broken, hence my next idea, concerning Star Force:

[18:34] <@MetaKirbSter> YES.

[18:34] <@MetaKirbSter> AGREED NO MATTER WHAT.

[18:35] <PhoenixWright> Meta

[18:35] <PhoenixWright> don't be a jark

[18:35] <PhoenixWright> *jerk

[18:35] <PhoenixWright> i actually like the Starforce :D

[18:35] <@MetaKirbSter> I agree with mikey no matter what.. but

[18:35] <@MetaKirbSter> Yeah. I have my own part of this... Mikey, go on

[18:35] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> Forget increasing stats and attacks by percentages. What if, for every X Stars of a type that you collected, the level cap for bots of that type went up by 1?

[18:36] <@MetaKirbSter> one thing.

[18:36] <TailsMK4_> Despite what has happened, I am still against removing Starforce. Wasn't there discussion saying Stars would...oh, Mikey is doing a different approach? Hmm.

[18:36] <@MetaKirbSter> That would make characters OP.

[18:36] <@MetaKirbSter> Like,

[18:36] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> If it's 10, the current cap for Cutters would be Level 118.

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[18:36] <@MetaKirbSter> Instead of my T- You know being lvl 100

[18:36] <@MetaKirbSter> It would be level 1360.

[18:36] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> It'd be 130+ by the final version.

[18:37] <@MetaKirbSter> Well...

[18:37] <TailsMK4_> Ok, then you would give another bonus for elemental robots and not the others?

[18:37] <@MetaKirbSter> It's still OP.

[18:37] <@MetaKirbSter> ^^

[18:37] <TheDoc> I have no idea what sparked this idea, but it seems unnecessary and, judging by the current spread of Starforce, unbalanced

[18:37] <@MetaKirbSter> ^@TAILS

[18:37] <@MetaKirbSter> Also

[18:38] <TheDoc> Currently, there are quite a few more Cutter stars than, say, Crystal

[18:38] <@MegaBossMan> Not into it.

[18:38] <@MetaKirbSter> I would be in Favor of removing starforce... But eh

[18:38] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> @ Doc: Starforce will ALWAYS be unbalanced. That's why it should be removed, entirely, but, you know Adrian.

[18:38] <TailsMK4_> What about for every X Stars obtained, all robots can increase their levels by 1?

[18:38] <TailsMK4_> Though then we'd have the issue of why having a variety in Stars...

[18:38] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> ^

[18:38] <TheDoc> But why is the level increase necessary?

[18:38] <TheDoc> *level cap

[18:39] <TailsMK4_> I think at this point Stars should increase elemental defense as well, that way Copy and Neutral robots also benefit from Starforce.

[18:39] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> to decrease the insane strenth that Star Force gives to attacks.

[18:39] <@MetaKirbSter> Yeah what tails said.

[18:39] <@MetaKirbSter> every 100%

[18:39] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> *strength

[18:39] <TheDoc> @Tails I believe Adrian said he was doing that in a prev chat

[18:39] <@MetaKirbSter> You gain a level

[18:39] <TheDoc> Gimme a sec

[18:40] <PhoenixWright> ....

[18:40] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> Adrian has confirmed that Copy and Neutral stars will never be a thing. Copy, because they can use all types, and Neutral because of lack of an element.

[18:41] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> I tried to talk him out of it, but, well, you know Adrian.

[18:41] <TheDoc> http://pastebin.com/H9nyVXu6

[18:42] <PhoenixWright> ...

[18:42] <@MetaKirbSter> Mikey

[18:42] <TailsMK4_> Copy and Neutral will always get the short end of the stick.

[18:42] <@MetaKirbSter> Idea 3?

[18:42] <TailsMK4_> Having defenses raised by Starforce is the best option, imo.

[18:42] <TheDoc> I agree

[18:42] <TailsMK4_> AND...

[18:43] <TailsMK4_> Because there is no Copy or Neutral Starforce...

[18:43] <TailsMK4_> Neutral attacks will do normal damage, not reduced damage.

[18:43] <TailsMK4_> Thus shifting the balance more towards Copy and Neutral robots.

[18:43] <TheDoc> Is it reduced by something currently?

[18:43] <PhoenixWright> Copy Shot is just,....copying Robots last attacks

[18:43] <TailsMK4_> Only stat defense.

[18:44] <PhoenixWright> and using them,...so,...Copy has it's stance already

[18:44] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> It'll STILL be unbalanced, 'cause there'll never be as many Shield Stars as everything else.

[18:44] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> And don't get me started about Flame and Cutter Stars.

[18:44] <TailsMK4_> We do not have any Shield or Laser robots, and we will not for a long time.

[18:44] <@MetaKirbSter> ...

[18:44] <@MetaKirbSter> -_-

[18:44] <TailsMK4_> Nah, if anything Mikey, your discussion should be on Electric.

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[18:44] <TailsMK4_> It will be the most dominant element starting from MM5 onward.

[18:45] <@MetaKirbSter> How?

[18:45] <TailsMK4_> Anyway, idea 3.

[18:45] <@MetaKirbSter> Gravity?

[18:45] <@MetaKirbSter> Idea 3...

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[18:46] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> Idea 3 is going to be extremely controversial, here, but, here goes:

[18:46] <@MegaBossMan> Go ahead.

[18:46]  * TheDoc is ready to jump down Mikey's throat

[18:46] <PhoenixWright> *slowly sets down paperwork*

[18:47] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> The removal......of all Mechas.

[18:47] <TheDoc> OBJECTION!

[18:47] <PhoenixWright> HOLD IT!

[18:47] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> All of them.

[18:47] <PhoenixWright> Let him talk

[18:47]  * MetaKirbSter is READY TO GO

[18:47] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> Now, HERE ME OUT.

[18:47] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> *HEAR

[18:47] <TheDoc> Actually I want to hear your 2 cents

[18:47] <TheDoc> Nvm

[18:47] <TailsMK4_> *listens*

[18:48] <@MetaKirbSter> Who's 2 cents, Who do you mean? @Who? @Tail

[18:48] <@MetaKirbSter> *S

[18:48] <@MetaKirbSter> @TAILS I KNOW THE MEANING, ANYWA

[18:48] <@MegaBossMan> Let him go.

[18:48] <TheDoc> ^

[18:48] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> They're meant from the start, to be weak, stupid, incoherent excuses for enemies. All of them, yes?

[18:48] <@MetaKirbSter> -_-

[18:49] <PhoenixWright> also

[18:49] <@MetaKirbSter> Ok.

[18:49] <PhoenixWright> they're kinda Tedious for Stat Growth

[18:49] <@MetaKirbSter> @MIKE

[18:49] <PhoenixWright> like,... 1 point for each stat

[18:49] <@MetaKirbSter> True.

[18:49] <@MetaKirbSter> @Mike

[18:49] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> Even at Level 100, they do little for stat growth.

[18:49] <@MetaKirbSter> Take tails's  account Back then.

[18:49] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> And their attacks are completely pathetic.

[18:49] <TailsMK4_> I see them really as having potential.

[18:50] <@MegaBossMan> That's the point.

[18:50] <TailsMK4_> But not in their current state.

[18:50] <@MetaKirbSter> Plus...

[18:50] <TailsMK4_> The one thing Mechas do have going for them is resistance to quite a few otherwise unopposed elements.

[18:50] <@MetaKirbSter> You waste time with them.

[18:50] <@MetaKirbSter> Water, Time.

[18:50] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> On top of this, we can't really put in any of the GOOD Mechas without killing Adrian.

[18:50] <@MegaBossMan> They're a side-dish.

[18:50] <TailsMK4_> No RM except for Top Man is able to resist Gemini Man, for example.

[18:51] <TailsMK4_> *Gemini Laser

[18:51] <TailsMK4_> But MANY Mechas have resistance to Crystal or Laser.

[18:52] <@MetaKirbSter> Also

[18:52] <@MetaKirbSter> I know 2 mecha's that are resistanat to Water.

[18:52] <TheDoc> So how would these unique res/imm/aff benefit the game?

[18:52] <@MetaKirbSter> Specificaly

[18:52] <@MetaKirbSter> Metal/Ring

[18:52] <@MetaKirbSter> Thier mechas

[18:52] <@MetaKirbSter> Ring-Ring and Pierrobot

[18:53] <TailsMK4_> Actually, I'm not making much of a point saying this...I really like the concept of Mechas, but currently...it's not that good.

[18:53] <TailsMK4_> Much like with Starforce, I'm for changing Mechas, not outright removing them.

[18:53] <TheDoc> Would you say that they provide at least somewhat of a challenge in the first chapter?

[18:54] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> Boss, the problem with mechas is that MM7 bots will have them and MM8 bots, too. And if ALL mechas are supposed to be easy, it'll ake the RM's they go with easy, as well.

[18:54] <PhoenixWright> @TheDoc

[18:54] <PhoenixWright> no..,,,,nuh-huh-no

[18:54] <@MetaKirbSter> (/me)

[18:54]  * MetaKirbSter

[18:54] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> *it'll make

[18:54]  * MetaKirbSter Wants the last person to go already...

[18:54] <@MegaBossMan> They're a distraction to the main dish.

[18:54] <TheDoc> Meta we're still discussing

[18:54] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> @ Doc: Not even 8 Mets are even a SPECK of a challenge.

[18:55] <TheDoc> I'm just trying to narrow down how much would need to be changed

[18:55] <@MetaKirbSter> Mikey's right...

[18:55] <TailsMK4_> I smell steak...which means it's almost time for dinner...

[18:55] <@MegaBossMan> I could see them getting an edge, but they never should be the main problem.

[18:56] <TheDoc> Tsk. Dy have a pastebin of your ideas, Tails? Or can you say them before you go?

[18:56] <TailsMK4_> For my turn, I will skip the story and save it for when there's some decent activity in the Xat chat.

[18:56] <@MetaKirbSter> K,

[18:56] <@MetaKirbSter> so mikey is the last person...

[18:56] <TailsMK4_> But I did just want to say something regarding the Reset Game feature when Mikey is finished.

[18:56] <@MegaBossMan> Go ahead.

[18:57] <@ThatGuyNamedMike> I'm done, really. That's all.

[18:57] <@MetaKirbSter> Ok...

[18:57] == MetaKirbSter changed the topic of #mmrpg to: Legacy Sunday Night Chat's 03/8/15 Tails Turn

[18:57] == mode/#mmrpg [-o ThatGuyNamedMike] by MetaKirbSter

[18:57] <TailsMK4_> Well, in that case, I got time...but first, the feature report.

[18:57] == mode/#mmrpg [+o TailsMK4_] by MetaKirbSter

[18:57] <@TailsMK4_> ...Uh...

[18:58] <@MetaKirbSter> Ok.

[18:58] <@TailsMK4_> Restore Mikey's power, I'm not really a mod.

[18:58] == mode/#mmrpg [+o ThatGuyNamedMike] by MetaKirbSter

[18:58] == mode/#mmrpg [-o TailsMK4_] by MetaKirbSter

[18:58] <TailsMK4_> Ok, so...

[18:58] <@MegaBossMan> Kirb, let me do the modding.

[18:58] == mode/#mmrpg [-o ThatGuyNamedMike] by MetaKirbSter

[18:58] <TailsMK4_> I ultimately decided to reset my file due to constantly being grinded on for BP.

[18:58] <@MetaKirbSter> K.

[18:58] <TailsMK4_> Personal feelings aside, I went to click on Reset Game.

[18:59] <PhoenixWright> I'm gonna end the stream here,....

[18:59] <TailsMK4_> I play through the story as usual, and when I get to open Wily's story...

[18:59] <TailsMK4_> I'm able to select Light's Chapter 4 even before beginning Wily's. Strange, I thought...but it gets stranger.

[19:00] <TailsMK4_> You know the icons that get displayed when you finish the individual stories?

[19:00] <PhoenixWright> ya

[19:00] <TailsMK4_> I still had the Wily and Cossack icons when I reset my file.

[19:00] <@MetaKirbSter> Yeah...

[19:00] <TailsMK4_> The other things that did not get removed when I reset my file...

[19:00] <TailsMK4_> I still had all 1024 Stars.

[19:00] <@MetaKirbSter> Starforce...

[19:00] <TailsMK4_> I still have my PB record.

[19:01] <TailsMK4_> I lost everything else, though, including abilities.

[19:01] <TailsMK4_> So either this is a glitch in the system, or Adrian did not program the game to remove everything when someone decides to reset their game.

[19:01] <@MetaKirbSter> I think Your SUPPOSED to lose your abilities...

[19:01] <ThatGuyNamedMike> @ Tails: Both.

[19:02] <TheDoc> He means the Starforce and PB record

[19:02] <ThatGuyNamedMike> you don't use your robots. Or their levels.

[19:02] <TheDoc> @Meta

[19:02] <@MetaKirbSter> @doc just say the full name

[19:02] <ThatGuyNamedMike> Record is probably not a glitch.

[19:03] <TailsMK4_> So the stuff that happened as a result of this...

[19:03] <ThatGuyNamedMike> *Lose your robots

[19:03] <TailsMK4_> My Light robots did not get Starforce boosted EXP...but from Wily onwards, they got it, even though I haven't finished the stories yet.

[19:03] <TailsMK4_> I have to go now, but I said the main things I wanted to say.

[19:04] <ThatGuyNamedMike> Starforce is so broken......

[19:04] <TheDoc> K. C ya Tails

[19:04] == MetaKirbSter changed the topic of #mmrpg to: Legacy Sunday Night Chat's 03/8/15

[19:04] <TailsMK4_> Sorry to leave all of a sudden, but I knew dinner was almost ready.

[19:04] <TailsMK4_> Later.

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[19:04] <ThatGuyNamedMike> TC.

[19:04] <@MetaKirbSter> Dovidenja

[19:04] <@MetaKirbSter> C ya

[19:04] <ThatGuyNamedMike> HAH.

[19:04] <TheDoc> I think that's everything

[19:05] <PhoenixWright> ....

[19:05] <PhoenixWright> welp,....meetings over

[19:05] <PhoenixWright> so is this stream

[19:05] <@MetaKirbSter> Meeting Adjourned?

[19:05] <@MetaKirbSter> Also, YT IS TheGamerDudeX.

[19:05] <@MetaKirbSter> ANyway

[19:05] <@MetaKirbSter> * X

[19:05] <TheDoc> MBM? I believe you have final say

[19:05] <@MetaKirbSter> MEETING...

[19:06] <@MegaBossMan> Nobody has anything?

[19:06] <@MetaKirbSter> k.

[19:06] <@MetaKirbSter> MBM

[19:06] <@MetaKirbSter> you have something

[19:06] <ThatGuyNamedMike> OH!

[19:06] <ThatGuyNamedMike> I forgot one!

[19:06] <@MetaKirbSter> -_-

[19:06] <@MetaKirbSter> Do it fast...

[19:06] <@MegaBossMan> Ah-ha.

[19:06] <@MetaKirbSter> (TheDoc dont talk about it)

[19:07] <ThatGuyNamedMike> It's sorta controversial, too.

[19:07] <@MetaKirbSter> (PhoenixWright)

[19:07]  * TheDoc is ready once again

[19:07] <@MetaKirbSter> PhoenixWright, after mikey

[19:07] <@MegaBossMan> Oof.

[19:07] <@MetaKirbSter> do you need to say something after him?

[19:08] <@MetaKirbSter> uh.

[19:08] <@MetaKirbSter> M...Mikey?

[19:08] <@MegaBossMan> Mike, go ahead.

[19:08] <ThatGuyNamedMike> this is crazy, but, would it disappoint ANYBODY if the MM5 bots came in WITHOUT their stages?

[19:09] <PhoenixWright> me

[19:09] <PhoenixWright> yes

[19:09] <TheDoc> Why do you ask?

[19:09] <ThatGuyNamedMike> 'cause Adrian.

[19:09] <ThatGuyNamedMike> We're killing the poor guy. Really.

[19:09] <TheDoc> Wait then how will you unlock them?

[19:09] <@MegaBossMan> You mean Bonus Field?

[19:10] <@MetaKirbSter> IDK

[19:10] <ThatGuyNamedMike> No, I mean if there was an MM5 update without any MM5 stages.

[19:10] <ThatGuyNamedMike> 'cause Adrian.

[19:10] <TheDoc> Personallyl, I think they should come with their stages just to keep the "formula" if you will, but Adrian should realize when Adrian is ready

[19:10] <TheDoc> *release

[19:10] <ThatGuyNamedMike> I mean, really, the stages can come later.

[19:11] <ThatGuyNamedMike> We have 37 off them as it is.

[19:11] <PhoenixWright> ....

[19:11] <ThatGuyNamedMike> *of

[19:11] <PhoenixWright> but

[19:11] <@MegaBossMan> Does Adrian think the same though?

[19:11] <@MetaKirbSter> -____________-

[19:11] <PhoenixWright> that would also mean MORE STARFORCE!

[19:12] <@MetaKirbSter> :/

[19:12] <@MetaKirbSter> ............................... -______________________________-

[19:12] <@MetaKirbSter> @PW

[19:12] <@MetaKirbSter> anyway...

[19:12] <TheDoc> So what say you MBM?

[19:12] <PhoenixWright> seriously though,..it would

[19:13] <TheDoc> I didn't really understand which side you were taking

[19:13] <@MetaKirbSter> :/

[19:13] <@MegaBossMan> Who, me?

[19:13] <@MegaBossMan> It all depends on Adrian.

[19:14] <TheDoc> I think that Adrian shouldn't feel pressured to release MM5 at all

[19:14] <TheDoc> *don't think

[19:14] <@MegaBossMan> Me neither.

[19:14] <ThatGuyNamedMike> Adrian HAS to be dying with all the work he has to do AND with real life weighing on him like a ton of bricks.

[19:14] <ThatGuyNamedMike> So, just put in robots, for the time being. Stages can come later.

[19:15] <TheDoc> He has a lot of fixes,content, etc besides MM5. If he's really feeling that overwhelmed, release the update without MM5. All in all, he should go at his own pace rather than feel pressured to release content within a certain amount of time.

[19:15] <@MegaBossMan> Adding 5 just adds more work, even without fields.

[19:15] <@MegaBossMan> I'm content with them being in Bonus.

[19:16] <@MetaKirbSter> :/

[19:16] <@MetaKirbSter> So, anything else?

[19:16] <ThatGuyNamedMike> I'm done.

[19:16] <ThatGuyNamedMike> For real, this time.

[19:17] <@MetaKirbSter> K.

[19:17] <@MetaKirbSter> MEETING ADJOURNED! right?

[19:17] == mode/#mmrpg [-v MetaKirbSter] by MetaKirbSter

[19:17] <@MegaBossMan> Meeting....

[19:17] == MetaKirbSter changed the topic of #mmrpg to: Legacy Sunday Night Chat's 03/8/15 Meeting... Adjourned?

[19:17] <@MegaBossMan> Adjourned.

[19:17] <TheDoc> *INHALES* O____________O

[19:17] == mode/#mmrpg [-o MetaKirbSter] by MetaKirbSter

[19:17] <TheDoc> Well you wrecked my timing

[19:17] <MetaKirbSter> Done.

[19:17] <@MegaBossMan> Alright get out, Papa Boss has to PB!