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derrick

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Hi, I see my game of throne prop was marked as a loss on a technicality. i have prepared a small list of reasons why this does not make sense and is not fair and is even cheating a little bit

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8001 Bran Stark sits on the Iron Throne
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sitting on the iron throne is a position not activity in a specific chair
as you know the bet was for who rules over the kingdoms at the end of the show
-otherwise, the last scene would need to cut out exactly as someone was physically sitting in that chair. Even if it was a cripple who could not easily move chairs.
-There is no mention of whether a new “iron throne” is ever built
-additionally, when there was no “doesn’t sit on the iron throne option for anybody even after the leaks (which included the destruction of the chair,) so it was just a free shot at the customers if interpreted only as betting on a specific person to be sitting in a specific chair in the last frame of the show.

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those are some of the reasons why this grading does not seem right or fair.
Adrian

Your bet says: Bran Stark sits on the Iron Throne. Your bet doesn't say anything about becoming king of the seven kingdoms. By the time Bran was elected king , the Iron Throne was already destroyed. Your bet was graded correctly.
derrick

right but that's what sitting on the iron throne means, ruling over the kingdoms. being king of everything
not if a specific person would be in a shot sitting on a specific chair
Adrian

The bet is graded correctly.
Is there anything else I can assist you with?
derrick

yes, this still

so I am assuming all the bets for anyone to sit on the throne were graded as a loss
Adrian

The bet in question is graded correctly. The status won't change.
derrick

i have questions still
though it should at least be a push if it was impossible to win

the bet moved from +750 to -550 after the leaks even though the leaks included that the chair would be destroyed. with something like -999999 on the other side. an unwinnable bet offered
i just want to at the very least get my questions answered on paper here so i can use it as proof on some dispute mitigator site like SBR forum or something like that

your extremely only literal translation does not make any sense for the reasons listed above so i am just trying to get a few questions answered
were all the bets on who will sit on the iron throne graded as a loss

he's obviously being referred to on other websites as who is sitting on the iron throne at the end of the show, despite the fact that the actual throne was recently destroyed and he's in a wheelchair anyway.
not that theres an official site to use for grading stuff like this.
Adrian

Just a moment please.
derrick

thanks
take your time
Adrian

I will transfer you to the manager.
derrick

thanks
Adrian

You're welcome. Have a good night.
derrick

you too
You have been transferred to: Percy.
Percy

Greetings!
derrick

hello Percy
Percy

I am the manager.
derrick

alright, to me this wager is more complicated than you guys are making it seem. please read what's been said so far if you have the time
and if it lets you.
Percy

Your bet is very clear. Bran Stark sits on the Iron Throne. Did he sit on the Iron Throne ?
Yes or no
derrick

yes he is who was left sitting on the iron throne at the end of the show. but this whole technicality is about whether he was pictured siting in a chair in or by the last frame of the show seems a little silly to me
Percy

Yes, then give me the time when that happened so I can go and check it out
derrick

i listed many reasons above why he should be considered to be sititng on the iron throne
as my translation is the only one that makes sense for someone to even bet on
Percy

You didn't bet on what that meant. Your bet is that he sit on it
derrick

and especially at the odds for which they were offered
Percy

So, did he sit on the Iron throne ? yes or no ?
derrick

i think you always bet on what it meants. if you bet something total bases. you dont really mean the total bases
it means a specific accomplishment referred to as total bases

yes he was who sits on the iron throne when the show ended
but he was not pictured or shown sitting on an or the iron throne itself because it was destroyed
now after your super literal translation which seems more than unfair and possibly like free shots has ruled my winning bet a loss, it seems that it was not possible to win in the first place
Percy

These are props which are very specific. Everything needs to happen as the wording says. By the time Bran was elected king , the Iron Throne was already destroyed.
derrick

yes but he was the one who has the iron throne, whether he physically sits on that one or not. it makes no mention of whether the iron throne would be rebuilt and if it's super specific then he sat on many iron thrones including his wheelchair and also even did it as the king of the kingdoms

but thats just a title. as it was offered and bet
Percy

You didn't on a "meaning". Your bet was that he sit on the Iron Throne. He didn't.
derrick

what if the throne was not destroyed but they didnt show him sitting on it
he did though. thats what sitting on the iron throne means. literally nobody cares who sits in what chair.

there were very few depictions of anyone sitting on it through the whole 8 seasons if you mean that chair specifically
if it's no then it's no. but i hate that ruling and think it's unfair and i have a few questions about it.
Percy

He didn't sit on the Iron Throne.
derrick

but he did
and does
and will forever because the show is over now.
Percy

Give me a time when he sit on it
derrick

since he was declared king to present he is said to sit on the iron throne. it is not about showing a character sitting on a chair
thats what's referred to as sitting on the iron throne
Percy

He became King of the 6 kingdoms not even 7 as north declared independence. So things changed. He never sit the Iron Throne because there was no longer such thing.
derrick

I hear ya. i just dont like it. but the bet was king of everything and sansa even mentinoned that the north had been an independent kingdom for 1000 years
Percy

Your bet doesn't say "king of everything " otherwise you would have a case
derrick

but whether you count that or not, he's still ruler over everything and the iron didnt evaporate and was even likely made into a new throne. it doesnt address this at all.

yeah i know., thats why we're in this situation
a bad one for me it appears
so did everyone lose this bet or not?
all the bets of this nature
i saw the "doesn't" side was -9999999
or something like that
Percy

Yes many lose it unfortunately
derrick

im not asking about many but all
it seems you took a free shot at the bettors
Percy

But that's the risk for betting a prop on a TV show
derrick

this was a very unlikely bet and bad odds with this literal translation
that is A risk, true.
did Everybody lose
regardless of who they picked to sit on the throne. since the other side was not even available
every single person

we only have this issue with the very literal translation
by the way.
Percy

there was no throne so yes
The dragon killed your options
not us
derrick

alright. well i'm gonna try to see if sbr or someone can mediate this
that is a cogent enough point.
alright well i guess thats it for now. thanks for your time.
Percy

I think I was really clear
derrick

so do i. thats why this is so unfair
it clearly was not about who was sitting there physically
Percy

Your wrong and you know it.
derrick

that doesnt even make sense
ha. i disagree. but alright, sir
it seems like you're cheating to me and that i've been cheated
i promise that is how it feels to me.
Percy

You should complaint to HBO not to us .
derrick

yeah i hear ya
Percy

Is there anything else I can do for you ?
derrick

yeah do i put my email address in the bar that pops up after i click the envelope to send this chat to my email?
Percy

yes sir
derrick

it doesnt say if thats what that is for
ok thanks. thats all then
Percy

Have a good one !
derrick

wait
one more question
if the iron throne has not been destroyed, but they didn't show him sitting in it. which way does it get graded then?

never show him or reference him sitting in it.
Percy

That didn't happened so no point on discussing that.
derrick

there is a point though, because if it didnt or wouldnt grant the win in that case, you would have more of a point
like i said, it was about who sits on the throne at the end of the show
so if nobody was physically sitting there when the screen faded out, then we could've all still loss hypothetically
supports the taking a shot theory
Percy

Your bet says he sits on the Iron Throne. So you need to see it sitting on it .
derrick

and if it would've been graded as a win, then it supports my claim that it means the king of all the kingdoms
alright thanks
thats really all now. have a nice night
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Percy

Have a good one!
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