okay so its kind of a long story and im stupid as we've established
tldr
sinclair & i have planned to leave the club since the first non-city stuff started
we assumed it would be the military throwing us out, but that didnt happen, so we became sort of unwilling leaders of this new safehaven/camp of people in the building
except, 1) everybody is burnt out from rping in the club bc its in the back corner of the map and theres 0 rp to do except passive over and over
2) we want to migrate our group closer to the main rp hubs instead of, as said, the back corner of the map
the issue is that ICly, we have 0 reason to leave without breaking character HARD
we discussed this w/ one staff member & came up with the idea of a big fire, and i have a build nearly completely ready that blocks off the 2nd/3rd floors but still lets people utilize the first floor
however
we got shot down by a few other admins bc 'the idea of the club being a complete lose to them doesnt sit right because they dont want to close off such a decent section of the map.'
which i understand to a point of course
but the fact of the matter is that 1) we are no longer a roleplay hub, we rarely have more than 6 people on at a time and theyre all just club OGs anyways
2) i dont understand how they can say its a 'decent section' of the map when there would still be a sizeable amount of space to rp in, plus all of the surroundings alleyways

[8:10 PM]
DiBen:
	I agree with you there

[8:10 PM]
cambry:
	2A) they've had the bank closed since the rp opened so im double annoyed by that

[8:10 PM]
DiBen:
	yeah idk what was going on with the bank
	i apologize i havent been on the server too much the last week or so as my wifes been having some health issues so i haven't exactly been paying much attention
	but i do agree with them with not wanting to shut off the club
	theres gotta be another IC way you can go about this

[8:11 PM]
cambry:
	3) we bounced some other ideas around but they all had issues for one reaso or another. the military have 0 reason to feasibly take over the space + they would let us in anyways, GeneCo is sort of an omnipresent group w/o much need for a base, we thought about maybe like, a water or sewage line bursts and leaves it unusable, but in the same sense that's still just rendering that part of the map unusable
	etc
	im open to whatever ideas

[8:12 PM]
DiBen:
	its a bit of a shit situation yeh

[8:12 PM]
cambry:
	but the problem is that whatever causes our 'group/ to leave has to be 'bad enough' that we're being 'forced' out
	while still leaving the place usable, i guess
	i'd also argue that rubble from a fire can be cleared in time but

[8:12 PM]
DiBen:
	perhaps ya'll just gotta suspend the disbelief for a lil bit

[8:12 PM]
cambry:
	im not getting replies from ANYBODY

[8:13 PM]
DiBen:
	perhaps the movement of the mob from the club to another location has left it a little less secure than everyone would hope
	and yall get some crazy homeless people all the time or something
	im still here

[8:13 PM]
cambry:
	maybe, but we dont is the issue
	nobody rps with us
	we have had LITERALLY 4 events total since the server opened
	2 shootings, 2 sick people
	1 of those sick people was me asking shinzo 'come do something there's 0 rp'
	we're willing to suspend some disbelief but the fact of the matter is like, sinclair's character would absolutely not leave the club unless he HAD to
	and its frustrating that he (and the rest of us) would have to completely alter our character
	ykno?
	so idk
	we're willing to bounce ideas around but its getting too late now, we wont have time over the weekend bc of the major lore events
	and then zombies will probably be here
	so we;kll get stuck taking care of all the randoms in the club and getting burnt out again