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  1. Aug 27 21:00:00 >#littlecup< LC Teambuilding is starting now.
  2. Aug 27 21:00:04 <KingTorterraXIV> !
  3. Aug 27 21:00:09 <CBT> !
  4. Aug 27 21:00:11 <KingTorterraXIV> !
  5. Aug 27 21:00:20 <CBT> are you prince turtwig
  6. Aug 27 21:00:30 <iss> hi everyone
  7. Aug 27 21:00:34 <AuraRayquaza> hi
  8. Aug 27 21:00:34 <CBT> king torterra
  9. Aug 27 21:00:36 <CBT> hi
  10. Aug 27 21:00:37 <iss> it's time for session one of lc teambuilding
  11. Aug 27 21:00:39 <KingTorterraXIV> hi
  12. Aug 27 21:00:40 <iss> who's here?
  13. Aug 27 21:00:44 <KingTorterraXIV> me
  14. Aug 27 21:00:45 * ebeast has quit (Quit: bye)
  15. Aug 27 21:00:48 <EndQuote> Half of smogon, apparently.
  16. Aug 27 21:00:51 <Snowflakes> Okay good
  17. Aug 27 21:00:51 <KingTorterraXIV> lol
  18. Aug 27 21:00:52 * elevator_music has quit (Client exited)
  19. Aug 27 21:01:06 <Snowflakes> Fuck ebeast
  20. Aug 27 21:01:08 * Mihawk (Mibbit@synIRC-BB50C1BC.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #littlecup
  21. Aug 27 21:01:10 <Snowflakes> he should be here
  22. Aug 27 21:01:12 <iss> emidoxx pokemon0078 poj fatty prem charmander etc
  23. Aug 27 21:01:15 <KingTorterraXIV> ):
  24. Aug 27 21:01:19 <iss> are you guys here?
  25. Aug 27 21:01:20 * elevator_afk (elev@tor.underscore.music) has joined #littlecup
  26. Aug 27 21:01:20 * Cerberus sets mode +a #littlecup elevator_afk
  27. Aug 27 21:01:20 * Cerberus gives channel operator status to elevator_afk
  28. Aug 27 21:01:41 <elevator_afk> iss and prem are you here
  29. Aug 27 21:01:44 <PoJ> Oh, almost forgot :o
  30. Aug 27 21:01:45 <iss> yea
  31. Aug 27 21:01:46 <KingTorterraXIV> i havent heard charmander speak since like 7 hours ago
  32. Aug 27 21:01:49 <PoJ> Yes I'm here
  33. Aug 27 21:01:50 <iss> i'm "hosting"
  34. Aug 27 21:01:51 <elevator_afk> im really sorry
  35. Aug 27 21:01:54 <iss> it's fine
  36. Aug 27 21:01:58 <elevator_afk> ok
  37. Aug 27 21:02:04 <KingTorterraXIV> :D
  38. Aug 27 21:02:16 <AuraRayquaza> prem isnt
  39. Aug 27 21:02:18 <iss> alright
  40. Aug 27 21:02:22 <AuraRayquaza> i was speaking to him earlier
  41. Aug 27 21:02:25 <iss> so: to all that are here
  42. Aug 27 21:02:38 <iss> suggestions for a pokemon to build the team around? or just strategies in general?
  43. Aug 27 21:02:44 <Snowflakes> Riolu
  44. Aug 27 21:02:46 * elevator_afk has quit (Quit: )
  45. Aug 27 21:02:49 <KingTorterraXIV> speculation!
  46. Aug 27 21:02:54 * chenn (~chenn@so.different.yet.so.exciting) has joined #littlecup
  47. Aug 27 21:02:56 <AuraRayquaza> damn i was goign to say riolu
  48. Aug 27 21:03:00 <Hawkstar> I think he meant good suggestions
  49. Aug 27 21:03:12 * [chenn] (~chenn@so.different.yet.so.exciting): chenn
  50. Aug 27 21:03:12 * [chenn] is a registered nick
  51. Aug 27 21:03:12 * [chenn] #littlecup #ubers #rarelyused +#pokemon
  52. Aug 27 21:03:12 * [chenn] naamio.fi.eu.synirc.net :Gateway to the underworld...
  53. Aug 27 21:03:12 * [chenn] idle 00:01:54, signon: Mon Aug 27 18:48:41
  54. Aug 27 21:03:12 * [chenn] End of WHOIS list.
  55. Aug 27 21:03:16 <Snowflakes> Tr yamask
  56. Aug 27 21:03:16 * Cerberus gives voice to Hawkstar
  57. Aug 27 21:03:20 <KingTorterraXIV> lol
  58. Aug 27 21:03:26 <iss> yamask???
  59. Aug 27 21:03:29 <iss> lol
  60. Aug 27 21:03:34 <AuraRayquaza> how about a sweeper snubbull
  61. Aug 27 21:03:36 <Snowflakes> Blara used it last night lol
  62. Aug 27 21:03:37 <KingTorterraXIV> shell smash tirtouga? idk just throwing stuff out
  63. Aug 27 21:03:40 <KingTorterraXIV> :/
  64. Aug 27 21:03:47 <pokemon0078> I'm here too
  65. Aug 27 21:03:51 <Snowflakes> he swept me with tirt though
  66. Aug 27 21:03:54 <iss> hey pokemon0078
  67. Aug 27 21:03:57 <KingTorterraXIV> D:
  68. Aug 27 21:04:04 <Snowflakes> Subroost murkrow
  69. Aug 27 21:04:06 <iss> alright so we have riolu and ss tirtouga right now
  70. Aug 27 21:04:19 <iss> and subroost krow
  71. Aug 27 21:04:23 <KingTorterraXIV> ummmmmm
  72. Aug 27 21:04:24 <Hawkstar> I like tirtouga
  73. Aug 27 21:04:27 <KingTorterraXIV> ^
  74. Aug 27 21:04:32 * CBT is now known as CBTerrakion
  75. Aug 27 21:04:35 <iss> ya
  76. Aug 27 21:04:35 <KingTorterraXIV> oh yeah
  77. Aug 27 21:04:36 * Gengan (Mibbit@synIRC-D09743C2.cinci.res.rr.com) has joined #littlecup
  78. Aug 27 21:04:38 <Emidoxx> bulky dragon dance dratini?
  79. Aug 27 21:04:41 <AuraRayquaza> what about jolitk?
  80. Aug 27 21:04:47 <iss> all good ideas
  81. Aug 27 21:04:47 <Snowflakes> Sleep talk bagon
  82. Aug 27 21:04:48 <KingTorterraXIV> iss i remeber you mentioning clam mind missy
  83. Aug 27 21:04:52 <KingTorterraXIV> *clam
  84. Aug 27 21:04:54 <KingTorterraXIV> **calm
  85. Aug 27 21:04:56 <iss> cm missy is established
  86. Aug 27 21:05:01 <KingTorterraXIV> oh
  87. Aug 27 21:05:02 <KingTorterraXIV> kk
  88. Aug 27 21:05:08 <AuraRayquaza> DD scraggy?
  89. Aug 27 21:05:08 <iss> it's got an onsite analysis
  90. Aug 27 21:05:12 <iss> it was really common for a while
  91. Aug 27 21:05:12 <CBTerrakion> Snover?
  92. Aug 27 21:05:12 <Snowflakes> Sleep talk bagon so fun
  93. Aug 27 21:05:12 <KingTorterraXIV> really
  94. Aug 27 21:05:16 <KingTorterraXIV> wow derp
  95. Aug 27 21:05:17 <iss> i wrote it lol
  96. Aug 27 21:05:18 <Gengan> Np missy is better anyway
  97. Aug 27 21:05:21 <iss> okay so we have
  98. Aug 27 21:05:28 <KingTorterraXIV> lol of course u'd write it is
  99. Aug 27 21:05:31 <KingTorterraXIV> *iss
  100. Aug 27 21:05:36 <PoJ> Simple CM Woobat? Sounds fun but Idk if it'll work. Haven't played LC in so long x.x
  101. Aug 27 21:05:43 <Gengan> not really
  102. Aug 27 21:05:45 <PoJ> Riolu also sounds cool
  103. Aug 27 21:05:45 <Gengan> I tried it
  104. Aug 27 21:05:47 <Gengan> it died easily
  105. Aug 27 21:05:48 <Snowflakes> Simple numel
  106. Aug 27 21:05:51 <PoJ> I see
  107. Aug 27 21:05:54 <Snowflakes> btw
  108. Aug 27 21:05:56 <KingTorterraXIV> simple numel is fun also
  109. Aug 27 21:06:01 <iss> riolu | ss tirtouga | subroost murkrow | bulky dd dratini | joltik | restalk bagon | dd scraggy | cm misdreavus | simple numel | simple woobat
  110. Aug 27 21:06:09 <Snowflakes> I'm making random suggestions that just calm to mind
  111. Aug 27 21:06:12 <KingTorterraXIV> im still for ss tirtouga
  112. Aug 27 21:06:16 <iss> alright i think that's enough suggestions for now
  113. Aug 27 21:06:18 <Gengan> what about gastly? could we do anything for it?
  114. Aug 27 21:06:22 <Snowflakes> Okay
  115. Aug 27 21:06:23 <CBTerrakion> lileep?
  116. Aug 27 21:06:25 <Gengan> oh, k then...
  117. Aug 27 21:06:30 <iss> alright
  118. Aug 27 21:06:32 <CBTerrakion> seed?
  119. Aug 27 21:06:39 <iss> any consensus on what to use?
  120. Aug 27 21:06:40 <pokemon0078> dd axew?
  121. Aug 27 21:06:46 <KingTorterraXIV> the suggestions flow like white river rapids!
  122. Aug 27 21:06:51 <Snowflakes> Lol
  123. Aug 27 21:06:59 <Gengan> I'm game for subroost murkrow
  124. Aug 27 21:07:00 <iss> this is probably enough suggestions lol
  125. Aug 27 21:07:08 <pokemon0078> yeah definitely
  126. Aug 27 21:07:08 <KingTorterraXIV> i like ss tirtouga still
  127. Aug 27 21:07:16 * blarajan (~blarajan@synIRC-A5C268B1.wireless.umd.edu) has joined #littlecup
  128. Aug 27 21:07:16 * Cerberus gives channel operator status to blarajan
  129. Aug 27 21:07:17 <Gengan> prankster sub is really awesome
  130. Aug 27 21:07:19 <Snowflakes> Ss tirt
  131. Aug 27 21:07:22 <KingTorterraXIV> hai blarajan
  132. Aug 27 21:07:24 <blarajan> i am here
  133. Aug 27 21:07:25 <blarajan> have we done anything
  134. Aug 27 21:07:27 <blarajan> and where hte fuck is em
  135. Aug 27 21:07:27 <Gengan> hi blara
  136. Aug 27 21:07:28 <Snowflakes> cause blara swept me like a boss
  137. Aug 27 21:07:29 <PoJ> I'd be fine with Riolu or Bagon
  138. Aug 27 21:07:31 <pokemon0078> yeah blara
  139. Aug 27 21:07:32 <iss> ok
  140. Aug 27 21:07:35 <iss> hi blarajan
  141. Aug 27 21:07:36 <blarajan> hold up
  142. Aug 27 21:07:38 <blarajan> what have we been doing
  143. Aug 27 21:07:39 <blarajan> and where is em
  144. Aug 27 21:07:46 <KingTorterraXIV> em isnt coming
  145. Aug 27 21:07:46 <Snowflakes> Suggesting pokes
  146. Aug 27 21:07:47 <Gengan> we are teambuilding
  147. Aug 27 21:07:48 <PoJ> EM can't make it :(
  148. Aug 27 21:07:50 <blarajan> okay
  149. Aug 27 21:07:50 <blarajan> w/e
  150. Aug 27 21:07:51 <blarajan> fuck em
  151. Aug 27 21:07:53 <blarajan> me and iss got this
  152. Aug 27 21:07:54 <KingTorterraXIV> lol
  153. Aug 27 21:07:54 <Snowflakes> lol
  154. Aug 27 21:07:58 <pokemon0078> lol
  155. Aug 27 21:07:59 <Gengan> xD
  156. Aug 27 21:08:04 <pokemon0078> this is gonna be fun
  157. Aug 27 21:08:05 <AuraRayquaza> lol
  158. Aug 27 21:08:10 <iss> alright anyways
  159. Aug 27 21:08:15 <PoJ> Blarajan what should we build around: riolu | ss tirtouga | subroost murkrow | bulky dd dratini | joltik | restalk bagon | dd scraggy | cm misdreavus | simple numel | simple woobat
  160. Aug 27 21:08:17 <blarajan> okay
  161. Aug 27 21:08:19 <blarajan> i would uh
  162. Aug 27 21:08:20 <blarajan> avoid riolu
  163. Aug 27 21:08:25 <blarajan> because when we build around riolu
  164. Aug 27 21:08:29 <blarajan> we honestly use the same five pokes + filler
  165. Aug 27 21:08:31 <blarajan> that's no fun
  166. Aug 27 21:08:32 <KingTorterraXIV> lol
  167. Aug 27 21:08:33 <Snowflakes> lol
  168. Aug 27 21:08:35 <blarajan> legit
  169. Aug 27 21:08:36 <PoJ> Ok
  170. Aug 27 21:08:38 <blarajan> my vote is
  171. Aug 27 21:08:41 <Gengan> ss tirtouga?
  172. Aug 27 21:08:42 <blarajan> rest talk marvel scale dratini
  173. Aug 27 21:08:54 <blarajan> that's relatively undone this meta
  174. Aug 27 21:09:00 <blarajan> and is still solid enough to be used as a defensive pivot
  175. Aug 27 21:09:04 <blarajan> which would let us have more options in team building
  176. Aug 27 21:09:07 <Snowflakes> It's fun
  177. Aug 27 21:09:13 <Gengan> sounds cool
  178. Aug 27 21:09:20 <blarajan> since this metagame
  179. Aug 27 21:09:22 <blarajan> has a lot of lileep
  180. Aug 27 21:09:24 <pokemon0078> dratini sounds good
  181. Aug 27 21:09:24 <blarajan> has a lot of krow
  182. Aug 27 21:09:28 <blarajan> has a lot of special threats and stuff
  183. Aug 27 21:09:28 <iss> i concur
  184. Aug 27 21:09:31 <blarajan> that both dratini can check
  185. Aug 27 21:09:32 <blarajan> and set up on
  186. Aug 27 21:09:39 <blarajan> which is important
  187. Aug 27 21:09:40 <blarajan> for this metagame
  188. Aug 27 21:09:51 <KingTorterraXIV> ya
  189. Aug 27 21:09:55 <Emidoxx> ok
  190. Aug 27 21:09:59 <AuraRayquaza> sounds good to me
  191. Aug 27 21:09:59 <Gengan> so resttalk marvel scale dratini it is
  192. Aug 27 21:10:00 <iss> ok
  193. Aug 27 21:10:02 <blarajan> okay
  194. Aug 27 21:10:05 <KingTorterraXIV> ok
  195. Aug 27 21:10:08 <iss> alright so we're going to use resttalk marvel scale dratini
  196. Aug 27 21:10:09 <blarajan> so pretty much it's not hard to make a spread for this
  197. Aug 27 21:10:13 <blarajan> we have a few things we need to hit
  198. Aug 27 21:10:24 <blarajan> the first important thing is hitting 14 speed
  199. Aug 27 21:10:39 <iss> yes
  200. Aug 27 21:10:45 * elevator_music (~elevatorm@synIRC-F2EFA0B6.sub-174-252-45.myvzw.com) has joined #littlecup
  201. Aug 27 21:10:51 <Gengan> hi em!
  202. Aug 27 21:10:57 <blarajan> em
  203. Aug 27 21:11:05 <blarajan> we're building off of rest talk marvel scale dratini
  204. Aug 27 21:11:30 <iss> ALRIGHT
  205. Aug 27 21:11:30 <PoJ> 196 Spe EVs is required for 14 speed with a neutral nature
  206. Aug 27 21:11:35 <KingTorterraXIV> it needs 196 spd evs with neutral nature
  207. Aug 27 21:11:36 <elevator_music> Hi
  208. Aug 27 21:11:37 <elevator_music> I can't be here for long, I'm just using my phone
  209. Aug 27 21:11:38 <elevator_music> Ok, that's a cool pick
  210. Aug 27 21:11:43 <Snowflakes> Ditto lol
  211. Aug 27 21:11:45 <iss> so what would be good teammates for restalk dratini?
  212. Aug 27 21:11:46 * Gengan (Mibbit@synIRC-D09743C2.cinci.res.rr.com) has left #littlecup
  213. Aug 27 21:11:49 <KingTorterraXIV> D:
  214. Aug 27 21:11:54 * Ace_Attorney (~Ace_@synIRC-EFAEA8B7.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #littlecup
  215. Aug 27 21:11:54 <KingTorterraXIV> ok w/e
  216. Aug 27 21:11:54 <Snowflakes> Fighting counters
  217. Aug 27 21:12:04 <pokemon0078> what is the rest of the evs then?
  218. Aug 27 21:12:04 <Emidoxx> drifloon?
  219. Aug 27 21:12:09 <blarajan> let me get the spread for you guys
  220. Aug 27 21:12:13 <KingTorterraXIV> ok
  221. Aug 27 21:12:32 <blarajan> 108 HP / 4 Atk / 76 Def / 156 Spd / 116 Spe Jolly
  222. Aug 27 21:12:34 <elevator_music> First look at pokemon it sets up on and then pick partners that lure in those pokes
  223. Aug 27 21:12:40 <pokemon0078> okay
  224. Aug 27 21:12:45 <blarajan> yeah
  225. Aug 27 21:12:48 <blarajan> let's look at what it sets up on
  226. Aug 27 21:12:54 <blarajan> what's common this metagame that can't touch dratini?
  227. Aug 27 21:12:57 <elevator_music> For instance, it does well against chinchou
  228. Aug 27 21:13:09 <Snowflakes> Chinchou
  229. Aug 27 21:13:11 <elevator_music> So a partner like magnemite works well
  230. Aug 27 21:13:15 <blarajan> lileep as well, and hippopotas, and such
  231. Aug 27 21:13:15 <Snowflakes> Damn lag
  232. Aug 27 21:13:27 <blarajan> dratini is a good booster against sand in my opinion
  233. Aug 27 21:13:36 <CBTerrakion> back
  234. Aug 27 21:13:37 <PoJ> Magnemite also can trap steels for Dratini :)
  235. Aug 27 21:13:39 * Deinosaur (~Deinosaur@5A384773.74BD8E09.ACEBAC07.IP) has joined #littlecup
  236. Aug 27 21:13:44 <KingTorterraXIV> yeah
  237. Aug 27 21:13:49 <elevator_music> Especially so because magnemite helps remove ferroseed who can be a pain (bronzor too but he's setup bait)
  238. Aug 27 21:13:58 <KingTorterraXIV> yeah
  239. Aug 27 21:14:20 <pokemon0078> magnemite seems great
  240. Aug 27 21:14:22 <blarajan> okay
  241. Aug 27 21:14:26 <blarajan> what sets do you guys think would work?
  242. Aug 27 21:14:36 <AuraRayquaza> magnet rise
  243. Aug 27 21:14:39 <blarajan> why?
  244. Aug 27 21:14:41 <Emidoxx> choice magnimite?
  245. Aug 27 21:14:53 <CBTerrakion> would gligar be useful on such a team
  246. Aug 27 21:14:53 <AuraRayquaza> for eq
  247. Aug 27 21:15:02 <blarajan> gligar is banned, cbterrakion
  248. Aug 27 21:15:02 <KingTorterraXIV> hawkstar's occa magnemite :P
  249. Aug 27 21:15:15 <CBTerrakion> srsly i must not follow lc
  250. Aug 27 21:15:20 <KingTorterraXIV> ):
  251. Aug 27 21:15:22 <blarajan> but dratini sets up on fire type attacks
  252. Aug 27 21:15:30 <pokemon0078> definitely
  253. Aug 27 21:15:36 <blarajan> we wouldn't need an occa
  254. Aug 27 21:15:36 <CBTerrakion> someone give me a link to gligar banthread
  255. Aug 27 21:15:36 <Snowflakes> Snover !
  256. Aug 27 21:15:38 <Emidoxx> dratini can set up on ponyta.
  257. Aug 27 21:15:47 <blarajan> snowflakes makes a good point as well
  258. Aug 27 21:15:50 <blarajan> magnemite checks snover
  259. Aug 27 21:15:56 <KingTorterraXIV> yeah
  260. Aug 27 21:15:56 <Snowflakes> Lol
  261. Aug 27 21:16:12 <pokemon0078> maybe go for scarf?
  262. Aug 27 21:16:24 <blarajan> why do you think we should go for scarf, pokemon0078?
  263. Aug 27 21:16:30 <Emidoxx> scarf to outspeed snover?
  264. Aug 27 21:16:38 <blarajan> how fast is scarf magnemite
  265. Aug 27 21:16:42 <blarajan> i legit have no idea
  266. Aug 27 21:16:44 <KingTorterraXIV> 21 i think
  267. Aug 27 21:16:47 <PoJ> Iirc with timid it gets
  268. Aug 27 21:16:48 <PoJ> 15 speed
  269. Aug 27 21:16:51 <Snowflakes> Snovee hits same thinf
  270. Aug 27 21:16:52 <PoJ> without the boost
  271. Aug 27 21:16:52 <KingTorterraXIV> oh
  272. Aug 27 21:16:54 <pokemon0078> 22 spe
  273. Aug 27 21:16:56 <PoJ> I think
  274. Aug 27 21:16:59 <pokemon0078> with timid
  275. Aug 27 21:17:02 <Snowflakes> so mite ourapeeds
  276. Aug 27 21:17:02 <EndQuote> Magnemite reaches 14 speed, I thought.
  277. Aug 27 21:17:07 <pokemon0078> oh it runs modest
  278. Aug 27 21:17:08 <KingTorterraXIV> 21 with modest i think
  279. Aug 27 21:17:09 <EndQuote> nvm 15
  280. Aug 27 21:17:17 <pokemon0078> then that's 21
  281. Aug 27 21:17:27 <Snowflakes> We don't really need to outspeed snovwe though
  282. Aug 27 21:17:27 <KingTorterraXIV> depends if modest or timid
  283. Aug 27 21:17:31 <Snowflakes> sorry on phone
  284. Aug 27 21:17:37 <CBTerrakion> non scarf snover?
  285. Aug 27 21:17:39 <pokemon0078> it already outspeeds snover snowflakes
  286. Aug 27 21:17:47 <blarajan> since we only tie with snover if scarf
  287. Aug 27 21:17:47 <merp> OKAY
  288. Aug 27 21:17:49 <merp> IM HERE
  289. Aug 27 21:17:51 <KingTorterraXIV> hi
  290. Aug 27 21:17:53 * AuraRayquaza (Mibbit@synIRC-3CAE423C.bb.sky.com) has left #littlecup
  291. Aug 27 21:17:53 <iss> hi prem
  292. Aug 27 21:17:54 <blarajan> maybe bulky would be better? to switch into blizzards better.
  293. Aug 27 21:17:54 <merp> what do we have so fa
  294. Aug 27 21:17:55 <merp> r
  295. Aug 27 21:17:56 <pokemon0078> actually
  296. Aug 27 21:17:58 <Snowflakes> Dar merp
  297. Aug 27 21:18:06 <blarajan> rest talk dd dratini prem
  298. Aug 27 21:18:08 <KingTorterraXIV> i like bulky magnemite
  299. Aug 27 21:18:11 <blarajan> and a magnemite set we're still discussing
  300. Aug 27 21:18:22 <Snowflakes> is this with the magnet rise thing?
  301. Aug 27 21:18:36 <blarajan> yeah magnet rise magnemite is very good this metagame
  302. Aug 27 21:18:37 <PoJ> I don't think we need Magnet Rise
  303. Aug 27 21:18:43 <PoJ> What uses
  304. Aug 27 21:18:46 <PoJ> ground moves? :s
  305. Aug 27 21:18:50 <blarajan> bronzor
  306. Aug 27 21:18:50 <KingTorterraXIV> drilbur
  307. Aug 27 21:18:51 <Snowflakes> Drilvur
  308. Aug 27 21:18:51 <blarajan> hippopotas
  309. Aug 27 21:18:52 <blarajan> drilbur
  310. Aug 27 21:18:53 <blarajan> sandshrew
  311. Aug 27 21:18:58 <blarajan> if you have a magnet rise up for the latter two
  312. Aug 27 21:19:02 <blarajan> already
  313. Aug 27 21:19:05 <KingTorterraXIV> alot of stuff
  314. Aug 27 21:19:08 * RayJay (RayJay@synIRC-183F7AEB.hlrn.qwest.net) has joined #littlecup
  315. Aug 27 21:19:09 * Cerberus sets mode +a #littlecup RayJay
  316. Aug 27 21:19:09 * Cerberus gives channel operator status to RayJay
  317. Aug 27 21:19:11 <blarajan> i really like magnet rise cause
  318. Aug 27 21:19:13 <PoJ> I see :o
  319. Aug 27 21:19:15 <Snowflakes> Hey rayjay
  320. Aug 27 21:19:15 <PoJ> Oh yeah
  321. Aug 27 21:19:15 <blarajan> the occasional earth power lileep
  322. Aug 27 21:19:16 <blarajan> hippopotas
  323. Aug 27 21:19:17 <PoJ> Sandshrew
  324. Aug 27 21:19:17 <PoJ> got
  325. Aug 27 21:19:20 <PoJ> Sand Rush
  326. Aug 27 21:19:20 <KingTorterraXIV> hi rayjay
  327. Aug 27 21:19:25 <pokemon0078> I think you're right about magnet rise blara
  328. Aug 27 21:19:28 <RayJay> hi
  329. Aug 27 21:19:31 <blarajan> do you guys think the analysis set would work then?
  330. Aug 27 21:19:34 <iss> <blarajan> the occasional earth power lileep
  331. Aug 27 21:19:35 <iss> wat
  332. Aug 27 21:19:38 <Snowflakes> fine with me
  333. Aug 27 21:19:40 <blarajan> nah that's legit
  334. Aug 27 21:19:43 <blarajan> earth power lileep is legit man
  335. Aug 27 21:19:44 <KingTorterraXIV> yeah im cool with it
  336. Aug 27 21:19:53 <pokemon0078> the analysis set should work
  337. Aug 27 21:19:56 <PoJ> Ok Magnet Rise sounds good
  338. Aug 27 21:20:05 <PoJ> HP Fire/Tbolt/FCannon/MRise?
  339. Aug 27 21:20:08 <iss> yes
  340. Aug 27 21:20:09 <merp> why are we using magnet rise
  341. Aug 27 21:20:15 <iss> to beat ground types
  342. Aug 27 21:20:16 <blarajan> hippopotas, bronzor
  343. Aug 27 21:20:20 <Emidoxx> seems legit
  344. Aug 27 21:20:21 <PoJ> Hippo Dril Sandshrew Bronzor etc.
  345. Aug 27 21:20:25 <merp> does bronzor even run eq anymroe?
  346. Aug 27 21:20:33 <blarajan> yeah most do
  347. Aug 27 21:20:34 <Snowflakes> Onsite
  348. Aug 27 21:20:35 <iss> tbh you aren't beating dril/sandshrew anyways but w.e
  349. Aug 27 21:20:35 <merp> oh
  350. Aug 27 21:20:36 <RayJay> yes?
  351. Aug 27 21:20:42 <merp> i never see it anymore
  352. Aug 27 21:20:44 <iss> hi ray jay
  353. Aug 27 21:20:46 <EndQuote> Should we use Volt Switch?
  354. Aug 27 21:20:54 <RayJay> volt switch > tbolt imo
  355. Aug 27 21:20:58 <blarajan> i personally prefer volt switch
  356. Aug 27 21:21:02 <CBTerrakion> does bronzor eq ohko this magnemite
  357. Aug 27 21:21:02 <KingTorterraXIV> i personalloy like volt switch better
  358. Aug 27 21:21:11 <merp> i dont think it even ohkos
  359. Aug 27 21:21:15 <blarajan> it does not, cbterrakion
  360. Aug 27 21:21:19 <blarajan> but it comes close
  361. Aug 27 21:21:21 <pokemon0078> I do too
  362. Aug 27 21:21:26 <CBTerrakion> someone do damage calcs
  363. Aug 27 21:21:32 <KingTorterraXIV> ok
  364. Aug 27 21:21:34 <KingTorterraXIV> i will
  365. Aug 27 21:21:36 <blarajan> eq doesn't kill bulky magnemite
  366. Aug 27 21:21:41 <EndQuote> So Volt switch/Magnet rise/HP Fire/Flash Cannon???
  367. Aug 27 21:21:41 <PoJ> Lol, a 100 base power move hitting for x4 and not KOing
  368. Aug 27 21:21:46 <Snowflakes> What a tank
  369. Aug 27 21:22:14 <merp> if we want it to take blizzards better
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  371. Aug 27 21:22:20 <merp> just swap hp and and spd evs
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  373. Aug 27 21:22:21 <CBTerrakion> yes silverlight calc is working!
  374. Aug 27 21:22:33 <pokemon0078> btw is honko's calc good for lc?
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  376. Aug 27 21:22:42 <CBTerrakion> pstats, bronzor
  377. Aug 27 21:22:42 <pstats> Bronzor [Steel/Psychic] Levitate/Heatproof/Heavy Metal (DW) | 57/24/86/24/86/23 | LC | GK/LK: 80 BP
  378. Aug 27 21:22:55 <CBTerrakion> 24 bronzor is garbage
  379. Aug 27 21:23:01 <Snowflakes> nah
  380. Aug 27 21:23:03 <CBTerrakion> attackwise
  381. Aug 27 21:23:16 <Snowflakes> Why you run toxic.
  382. Aug 27 21:23:24 <Snowflakes> and tank like a boss
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  384. Aug 27 21:23:44 <blarajan> hey guys
  385. Aug 27 21:23:48 <KingTorterraXIV> ?
  386. Aug 27 21:23:52 <Emidoxx> hm
  387. Aug 27 21:23:53 <blarajan> so why do we think magnemite and dratini pair up together
  388. Aug 27 21:24:04 <Snowflakes> regular dragmag
  389. Aug 27 21:24:12 <pokemon0078> yeah
  390. Aug 27 21:24:14 <Snowflakes> and decent synergy
  391. Aug 27 21:24:14 <blarajan> why in lc particularly
  392. Aug 27 21:24:19 <blarajan> is what i'm talking about
  393. Aug 27 21:24:26 <Snowflakes> along with handling each other threats of each other
  394. Aug 27 21:24:28 <Emidoxx> to kill steel types?
  395. Aug 27 21:24:32 <merp> hint: other steels suck
  396. Aug 27 21:24:36 <Snowflakes> and getting rid of problems the other has
  397. Aug 27 21:24:36 <PoJ> Because Mag lures Chinchou and fire types and stuff Dratini can set up on
  398. Aug 27 21:24:36 <blarajan> that is a definite plus
  399. Aug 27 21:24:37 <Emidoxx> that wall dratini
  400. Aug 27 21:24:41 <PoJ> and Mag beats steels
  401. Aug 27 21:24:57 <blarajan> yeah, pretty fantastic partner for those reasons
  402. Aug 27 21:24:59 <KingTorterraXIV> to help against dratini's ice weakness, aka snover maybe?
  403. Aug 27 21:25:06 <KingTorterraXIV> idk :/
  404. Aug 27 21:25:13 <EndQuote> Steels are a bit less common in LC. Beyond Bronzor and magnemite, there just aren't that many.
  405. Aug 27 21:25:18 <RayJay> ferroseed
  406. Aug 27 21:25:23 <EndQuote> Always forget ferro.
  407. Aug 27 21:25:23 <KingTorterraXIV> unless you count ferroseed
  408. Aug 27 21:25:32 <merp> are we running hp fire like the scrub we are?
  409. Aug 27 21:25:43 <RayJay> lol prem talking about scrubs
  410. Aug 27 21:25:45 <CBTerrakion> would a flying type help?
  411. Aug 27 21:25:45 <Snowflakes> Aye
  412. Aug 27 21:25:46 <EndQuote> Magnemite counters Ferro and Bronzor pretty well.
  413. Aug 27 21:25:48 <pokemon0078> murkrow perhaps?
  414. Aug 27 21:25:56 <pokemon0078> has something to with magnemite
  415. Aug 27 21:26:04 <RayJay> dratmag is incredibly mienfoo weak in my experience
  416. Aug 27 21:26:13 <blarajan> that's true
  417. Aug 27 21:26:16 <merp> LETS RUN DOUBLE GHOST
  418. Aug 27 21:26:16 <blarajan> we have fighting weaknesses
  419. Aug 27 21:26:16 <Snowflakes> archen, murkrow, or driflim are good flying types
  420. Aug 27 21:26:17 <KingTorterraXIV> so...
  421. Aug 27 21:26:20 <KingTorterraXIV> lol
  422. Aug 27 21:26:22 <EndQuote> How about Protect Magic Guard Abra?
  423. Aug 27 21:26:24 <merp> or be smart and run missy and something thats not a ghost type
  424. Aug 27 21:26:25 <CBTerrakion> no prem
  425. Aug 27 21:26:25 <Snowflakes> Driflim most !
  426. Aug 27 21:26:31 <Snowflakes> Missy*
  427. Aug 27 21:26:37 <EndQuote> It can take out Mienfoo without blinking.
  428. Aug 27 21:26:42 <pokemon0078> scraggy and mienfoo weak basically
  429. Aug 27 21:26:49 <CBTerrakion> then mixkrow could wreck shit
  430. Aug 27 21:26:50 <merp> besides the fact that it cant switch in
  431. Aug 27 21:26:51 <EndQuote> ...or a flying type...
  432. Aug 27 21:26:55 <blarajan> see
  433. Aug 27 21:26:58 <merp> OH OH OH OH
  434. Aug 27 21:27:00 <merp> archen
  435. Aug 27 21:27:00 <blarajan> there's a reason most of us don't go for a flying type
  436. Aug 27 21:27:03 <merp> lgi
  437. Aug 27 21:27:07 <blarajan> when trying to check physical attackers
  438. Aug 27 21:27:14 <pokemon0078> stealth rock?
  439. Aug 27 21:27:15 <RayJay> no flying types have recovery
  440. Aug 27 21:27:19 <merp> ARCHEN DOES
  441. Aug 27 21:27:20 <blarajan> except rufflet
  442. Aug 27 21:27:21 <blarajan> who sucks
  443. Aug 27 21:27:23 <RayJay> no flying type resists*
  444. Aug 27 21:27:26 <Emidoxx> subroost murkrow?
  445. Aug 27 21:27:27 <CBTerrakion> mag has good phys d
  446. Aug 27 21:27:28 <merp> but all flying types dont resist fighitng
  447. Aug 27 21:27:28 <merp> lol
  448. Aug 27 21:27:37 <Snowflakes> Drifloon !
  449. Aug 27 21:27:38 <KingTorterraXIV> lol
  450. Aug 27 21:27:43 <pokemon0078> I like the sound of missy though
  451. Aug 27 21:27:44 <Emidoxx> natu?
  452. Aug 27 21:28:00 <Borogoves> vullaby doesn't resist flying but it handles them p well
  453. Aug 27 21:28:03 <Emidoxx> it quad resits the most used typing in lc
  454. Aug 27 21:28:06 <Borogoves> fighting*
  455. Aug 27 21:28:09 <RayJay> you need something that it's ok if it gets knocked off
  456. Aug 27 21:28:10 <pokemon0078> it takes on the threats we need it to take on pretty well
  457. Aug 27 21:28:10 <KingTorterraXIV> crunched to the face by scraggy
  458. Aug 27 21:28:43 <blarajan> but we do recognize our fighting type weakness
  459. Aug 27 21:28:51 <Snowflakes> Yeah
  460. Aug 27 21:28:52 <EndQuote> How about Mantyke?
  461. Aug 27 21:28:53 <pokemon0078> what type is knock off?
  462. Aug 27 21:28:53 <KingTorterraXIV> ^
  463. Aug 27 21:28:56 <blarajan> why mantyke?
  464. Aug 27 21:28:56 <Snowflakes> Ark
  465. Aug 27 21:28:58 <KingTorterraXIV> dark
  466. Aug 27 21:28:59 <Snowflakes> dark*
  467. Aug 27 21:28:59 <blarajan> and dark, pokemon0078
  468. Aug 27 21:29:25 <KingTorterraXIV> hmmmmmmmm
  469. Aug 27 21:29:31 <RayJay> mantyke compounds our chinchou weakness too much
  470. Aug 27 21:29:31 <EndQuote> Fighting resist, water immunity, good typing.
  471. Aug 27 21:29:35 <merp> mantyke
  472. Aug 27 21:29:37 <EndQuote> Fair point.
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  474. Aug 27 21:29:44 <merp> has no physical defense
  475. Aug 27 21:29:48 <merp> of vale
  476. Aug 27 21:29:49 <merp> value
  477. Aug 27 21:30:14 <blarajan> well
  478. Aug 27 21:30:19 <EndQuote> I associate Mantyke with Scald, I guess I always assume it's bulkier than it is because of burn...
  479. Aug 27 21:30:21 <blarajan> mantyke doesn't really have any physical defense as said
  480. Aug 27 21:30:31 <merp> we need it to take physical hits
  481. Aug 27 21:30:33 <blarajan> and just honestly isn't particularly good
  482. Aug 27 21:30:35 <blarajan> we need to check fighting types
  483. Aug 27 21:30:36 <merp> and recover from it
  484. Aug 27 21:30:41 <Snowflakes> Mienfoo
  485. Aug 27 21:30:41 <RayJay> yeah mantyke is a dissappointment of a mon
  486. Aug 27 21:30:43 <merp> why dont we be smart and run missy
  487. Aug 27 21:30:44 <blarajan> timburr, scraggy, croagunk, mienfoo
  488. Aug 27 21:30:44 <PoJ> Are we looking for a Mienfoo specific counter, or an in general Fighting pokemon check?
  489. Aug 27 21:30:45 <blarajan> is problematic
  490. Aug 27 21:30:50 <RayJay> woobat could work
  491. Aug 27 21:30:53 <EndQuote> What about a bug-type?
  492. Aug 27 21:30:53 <merp> woobat could
  493. Aug 27 21:30:57 <pokemon0078> woobat
  494. Aug 27 21:30:59 <RayJay> loses to scraggy tho
  495. Aug 27 21:31:01 <KingTorterraXIV> larvesta :)
  496. Aug 27 21:31:03 <pokemon0078> pstats, woobat
  497. Aug 27 21:31:03 <pstats> Woobat [Psychic/Flying] Unaware/Klutz/Simple (DW) | 55/45/43/55/43/72 | LC | GK/LK: 20 BP
  498. Aug 27 21:31:06 <merp> but doesnt woobat get raped
  499. Aug 27 21:31:07 <blarajan> larvesta is a fantastic pokemon for this job
  500. Aug 27 21:31:07 <Snowflakes> .
  501. Aug 27 21:31:08 <blarajan> for the record
  502. Aug 27 21:31:10 <merp> by like other stuff
  503. Aug 27 21:31:11 <merp> oh
  504. Aug 27 21:31:12 <pokemon0078> larvesta
  505. Aug 27 21:31:13 <KingTorterraXIV> yes!
  506. Aug 27 21:31:14 <merp> i forgot about larvesta
  507. Aug 27 21:31:16 <KingTorterraXIV> larvesta <3
  508. Aug 27 21:31:16 <pokemon0078> that sounds excellent
  509. Aug 27 21:31:18 <merp> and i fucking made the mon
  510. Aug 27 21:31:20 <merp> lol
  511. Aug 27 21:31:23 <Snowflakes> So much lag for me :(
  512. Aug 27 21:31:23 <RayJay> larvesta works, a spinner will be nice anyways
  513. Aug 27 21:31:28 <PoJ> lol
  514. Aug 27 21:31:29 <EndQuote> or a bouncer.
  515. Aug 27 21:31:34 <merp> or we can run shelmet
  516. Aug 27 21:31:36 <Nebuchadnezzar> What are we discussing guys?
  517. Aug 27 21:31:36 <merp> and add some hazards
  518. Aug 27 21:31:37 <blarajan> plus the thing is
  519. Aug 27 21:31:42 <Emidoxx> if your putting volt switch magnemite and larvesta can this team be volt turn?
  520. Aug 27 21:31:47 <blarajan> most of larvesta's checks
  521. Aug 27 21:31:51 <blarajan> are ghost types that dratini can set up on
  522. Aug 27 21:31:56 <Snowflakes> Oh !
  523. Aug 27 21:31:57 <KingTorterraXIV> ^
  524. Aug 27 21:31:57 <Nebuchadnezzar> Shelmet has been working for me currently
  525. Aug 27 21:31:59 <blarajan> and like hippopotas and stuff
  526. Aug 27 21:32:01 <merp> larvesta checks are ghost types?
  527. Aug 27 21:32:05 <blarajan> u-turn
  528. Aug 27 21:32:05 <Snowflakes> Drilvur moldvreakwr
  529. Aug 27 21:32:07 <blarajan> is what i mean
  530. Aug 27 21:32:09 <merp> lol hippo not running roar
  531. Aug 27 21:32:13 <blarajan> or flare blitz from frillish and such
  532. Aug 27 21:32:13 <RayJay> staryu gets curb stomped by magnemite
  533. Aug 27 21:32:22 <merp> lo staryu doesnt
  534. Aug 27 21:32:26 <merp> and lo staryu is the only good staryu
  535. Aug 27 21:32:29 <RayJay> except for when it does
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  537. Aug 27 21:32:31 <RayJay> which is always
  538. Aug 27 21:32:34 <KingTorterraXIV> lol
  539. Aug 27 21:32:36 <blarajan> hippopotas etc, we have a lot of set up if we have larvesta u-turn
  540. Aug 27 21:32:41 <merp> assuming you hit
  541. Aug 27 21:32:42 <merp> it doesnt
  542. Aug 27 21:32:43 <merp> !
  543. Aug 27 21:32:47 <pokemon0078> wait does larvesta get roost?
  544. Aug 27 21:32:50 <blarajan> no =/
  545. Aug 27 21:32:50 <merp> no
  546. Aug 27 21:32:51 <KingTorterraXIV> no
  547. Aug 27 21:32:51 <Snowflakes> no
  548. Aug 27 21:32:53 <Emidoxx> no :/
  549. Aug 27 21:32:54 <KingTorterraXIV> ):
  550. Aug 27 21:32:55 <Snowflakes> morning sun
  551. Aug 27 21:32:55 <merp> otherwise we would be all over that shit
  552. Aug 27 21:32:56 <merp> lol
  553. Aug 27 21:32:57 <Snowflakes> that's it
  554. Aug 27 21:33:08 <KingTorterraXIV> so are we going with larvesta?
  555. Aug 27 21:33:10 <pokemon0078> larvesta sounds good
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  557. Aug 27 21:33:23 <pokemon0078> it checks the fighting-types we want it to check
  558. Aug 27 21:33:23 <merp> okay so murkrow curbstomps us
  559. Aug 27 21:33:30 <blarajan> well i mean not really
  560. Aug 27 21:33:32 <Snowflakes> Irt
  561. Aug 27 21:33:39 <Snowflakes> tirt* then
  562. Aug 27 21:33:40 <blarajan> we have a magnemite for murkrow and if it has heat wave, we can set up dratini
  563. Aug 27 21:33:44 <merp> mixkrow curbstomps everything
  564. Aug 27 21:33:46 <blarajan> who lives heat wave + lo brave bird easy
  565. Aug 27 21:33:46 <blarajan> and hits rest
  566. Aug 27 21:33:52 <blarajan> then is much bulkier
  567. Aug 27 21:33:53 <merp> what is this spread
  568. Aug 27 21:34:00 <Emidoxx> bulky dragon dance
  569. Aug 27 21:34:00 <merp> lol
  570. Aug 27 21:34:47 <EndQuote> Are we using the standard larvesta set?
  571. Aug 27 21:34:57 <Hawkstar> you're telling me magnemite can take LO BB + Heat Wave
  572. Aug 27 21:35:08 <blarajan> no i said dratini can
  573. Aug 27 21:35:09 <EndQuote> I think he's saying Dratini can.
  574. Aug 27 21:35:11 <Hawkstar> oh
  575. Aug 27 21:35:12 <EndQuote> Jynx
  576. Aug 27 21:35:16 <KingTorterraXIV> lol
  577. Aug 27 21:35:21 <merp> Murkrow@Life Orb (252 EVs, Neutral Nature) Brave Bird vs Dratini@Evolution Stone (28/236 EVs, Neutral Nature): 76.1 ~ 90.4% (16 ~ 19 HP)
  578. Aug 27 21:35:23 <merp> living what easy?
  579. Aug 27 21:35:29 <PoJ> o.o
  580. Aug 27 21:35:29 <blarajan> it takes that much really
  581. Aug 27 21:35:32 <blarajan> that's not my spread
  582. Aug 27 21:35:41 <merp> what is it then
  583. Aug 27 21:35:46 <EndQuote> 108/76
  584. Aug 27 21:36:01 <merp> Murkrow@Life Orb (252 EVs, Neutral Nature) Brave Bird vs Dratini@Evolution Stone (108/76 EVs, Neutral Nature): 72.7 ~ 95.4% (16 ~ 21 HP)
  585. Aug 27 21:36:04 <blarajan> yeah so max
  586. Aug 27 21:36:05 <blarajan> calc heat wave
  587. Aug 27 21:36:10 <blarajan> 21 is a big difference
  588. Aug 27 21:36:10 <merp> how much spd
  589. Aug 27 21:36:27 <EndQuote> 156
  590. Aug 27 21:36:27 <Emidoxx> 14 for dratini
  591. Aug 27 21:36:28 <KingTorterraXIV> 14
  592. Aug 27 21:36:33 <merp> Murkrow@Life Orb (88 EVs, Neutral Nature) Heat Wave vs Dratini@Evolution Stone (108/156 EVs, Neutral Nature): 18.1 ~ 22.7% (4 ~ 5 HP)
  593. Aug 27 21:36:45 <iss> ko most of the time
  594. Aug 27 21:36:51 <blarajan> okay so i was mistaken, sorry
  595. Aug 27 21:36:54 <iss> definitely with any residual damage
  596. Aug 27 21:36:56 <KingTorterraXIV> ):
  597. Aug 27 21:36:56 <blarajan> so we do have issues with a well played mixkrow
  598. Aug 27 21:37:00 <PoJ> That sucks :/
  599. Aug 27 21:37:03 <merp> and thats why archen wins
  600. Aug 27 21:37:11 <merp> it also gives us rocks
  601. Aug 27 21:37:12 <EndQuote> Odd, if Heat Wave burned on switch-in, would we survive the brave bird because of Marvel Scale?
  602. Aug 27 21:37:12 <blarajan> how does archen do fucking anything though
  603. Aug 27 21:37:15 <blarajan> in the entire metagame ever
  604. Aug 27 21:37:17 <merp> umm
  605. Aug 27 21:37:18 <merp> sets up rocks
  606. Aug 27 21:37:20 <KingTorterraXIV> lawl
  607. Aug 27 21:37:23 <EndQuote> I really vote against Archen.
  608. Aug 27 21:37:23 <merp> walls croagunk and mienfoo
  609. Aug 27 21:37:23 <Snowflakes> Roosts .a
  610. Aug 27 21:37:32 <merp> can actually take repeted hits from murkrow
  611. Aug 27 21:37:45 <blarajan> i am really not liking archen for any legit team
  612. Aug 27 21:37:51 <PoJ> I'd imagine a Drain Punch from Foo would hurt Archen a bit, wouldn't it?
  613. Aug 27 21:38:01 <RayJay> less than you think tbh
  614. Aug 27 21:38:03 <merp> unless you roost not really
  615. Aug 27 21:38:11 <merp> its like 30% max
  616. Aug 27 21:38:12 <PoJ> Is Archen faster?
  617. Aug 27 21:38:14 <merp> yes
  618. Aug 27 21:38:15 <RayJay> yes
  619. Aug 27 21:38:25 <merp> it also has like 19 attack with not even max investment
  620. Aug 27 21:38:32 <merp> 22 with max
  621. Aug 27 21:38:32 <PoJ> Oh, definitely not as bad as I thought
  622. Aug 27 21:38:39 <KingTorterraXIV> thats lots
  623. Aug 27 21:38:57 <merp> and pluck is useful for those dwebbles or stupid oran gastly
  624. Aug 27 21:39:10 <PoJ> Gastly is still around?
  625. Aug 27 21:39:10 <blarajan> see that's all you get though--from pluck
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  628. Aug 27 21:39:17 <KingTorterraXIV> not really
  629. Aug 27 21:39:17 <blarajan> not really no
  630. Aug 27 21:39:18 <merp> well it has no brave bird
  631. Aug 27 21:39:19 <merp> lol
  632. Aug 27 21:39:20 <blarajan> and none that use oran berry
  633. Aug 27 21:39:29 <merp> i said stupid oran gastly
  634. Aug 27 21:39:58 <KingTorterraXIV> so what are we going to do bout mixkrow? ):
  635. Aug 27 21:40:31 <blarajan> mixkrow is one of those pokemon you generally play around with really
  636. Aug 27 21:40:36 <blarajan> but i didn't know we were legit that waek to it
  637. Aug 27 21:40:38 <blarajan> weak*
  638. Aug 27 21:41:19 <merp> we need priority at east if we want to play around it
  639. Aug 27 21:41:19 <blarajan> archen definitely does assist with mixkrow issues but i'm still having issues with it helping us defensively
  640. Aug 27 21:41:34 <blarajan> or it doing anything else but switching into krow
  641. Aug 27 21:41:53 <RayJay> occa mag bros
  642. Aug 27 21:42:04 <CBTerrakion> Mixkrow is powerful
  643. Aug 27 21:42:06 <KingTorterraXIV> i said that at the beggining
  644. Aug 27 21:42:12 <CBTerrakion> scarfers are needed
  645. Aug 27 21:42:20 <KingTorterraXIV> scarfkrow :P
  646. Aug 27 21:42:23 <RayJay> idk i dont like using an item for a set you dont even see every time
  647. Aug 27 21:42:34 <blarajan> yeah and i really don't like using a pokemon solely to check one thing
  648. Aug 27 21:42:45 <KingTorterraXIV> ):
  649. Aug 27 21:42:47 <blarajan> like archen for mixkrow
  650. Aug 27 21:42:52 <merp> again it switches
  651. Aug 27 21:42:56 <merp> into croagunk mienfoo
  652. Aug 27 21:43:01 <RayJay> i'd say lileep / staryu might be a good choice but i build defensively so
  653. Aug 27 21:43:02 <merp> drilbur decently
  654. Aug 27 21:43:10 <blarajan> we get nothing for +1 timburr
  655. Aug 27 21:43:10 <blarajan> or +1 scraggy or anything
  656. Aug 27 21:43:20 <KingTorterraXIV> scarfkrow :P
  657. Aug 27 21:43:26 <merp> +1 scraggys should always win the game
  658. Aug 27 21:43:37 <CBTerrakion> so how common is mixkrow
  659. Aug 27 21:43:50 <RayJay> doesn't matter we should be prepared for it
  660. Aug 27 21:44:30 <blarajan> that's not a mindset we should advocate prem >.<
  661. Aug 27 21:44:37 <merp> okay fine.
  662. Aug 27 21:44:38 <CBTerrakion> unless they miss hjk
  663. Aug 27 21:44:48 <Snowflakes> Croagunk helps here then right?
  664. Aug 27 21:44:55 <merp> yes croagunk fits well
  665. Aug 27 21:44:56 <KingTorterraXIV> unless zen headbutt
  666. Aug 27 21:45:00 <blarajan> croagunk sounds pretty good
  667. Aug 27 21:45:02 <blarajan> to be honest
  668. Aug 27 21:45:07 <KingTorterraXIV> : D
  669. Aug 27 21:45:08 <blarajan> though zhb scraggy is garnering usage
  670. Aug 27 21:45:10 <merp> mienfood and murkrow check
  671. Aug 27 21:45:14 <CBTerrakion> orly
  672. Aug 27 21:45:22 <merp> but.. knock off hjk is better :(
  673. Aug 27 21:45:22 <KingTorterraXIV> mienfood?
  674. Aug 27 21:45:46 <blarajan> from mienfoo?
  675. Aug 27 21:45:47 * CBTerrakion is now known as Cheeseburger
  676. Aug 27 21:46:40 <Cheeseburger> test
  677. Aug 27 21:46:49 <KingTorterraXIV> so is croagunk a go?
  678. Aug 27 21:46:53 <KingTorterraXIV> or not yet?
  679. Aug 27 21:47:00 <blarajan> well
  680. Aug 27 21:47:02 <EndQuote> Doesn't that make us even more krow weak?
  681. Aug 27 21:47:07 <blarajan> yeah that is kind of true
  682. Aug 27 21:47:10 <KingTorterraXIV> it kinda does
  683. Aug 27 21:47:16 <blarajan> lol
  684. Aug 27 21:47:18 <merp> nah
  685. Aug 27 21:47:23 <merp> it has priority
  686. Aug 27 21:47:28 <Snowflakes> Doesn't check krow?
  687. Aug 27 21:47:31 <merp> we just let something die and then we can acttually hit first
  688. Aug 27 21:47:32 <Snowflakes> It*
  689. Aug 27 21:47:33 <merp> !
  690. Aug 27 21:47:44 <merp> and we will obviously pick something else
  691. Aug 27 21:47:51 <merp> that can take a hit
  692. Aug 27 21:47:54 <EndQuote> If it's behind a sub, you've got a dead frog on your hands...
  693. Aug 27 21:48:12 <merp> if its behind a sub
  694. Aug 27 21:48:13 <blarajan> well
  695. Aug 27 21:48:15 <blarajan> if it's behind a sub
  696. Aug 27 21:48:17 <pokemon0078> so something that checks murkrow and mienfoo?
  697. Aug 27 21:48:17 <merp> you have a dead team in your hands
  698. Aug 27 21:48:18 <blarajan> maggy counters
  699. Aug 27 21:48:31 <blarajan> cause subkrow is subroost
  700. Aug 27 21:48:35 <merp> nah sub can be used in mixkrow
  701. Aug 27 21:48:38 <blarajan> it never is
  702. Aug 27 21:48:44 <merp> i use it
  703. Aug 27 21:48:44 <KingTorterraXIV> ^
  704. Aug 27 21:48:45 <merp> sometimes
  705. Aug 27 21:48:45 <merp> lol
  706. Aug 27 21:48:52 <blarajan> so no one uses it
  707. Aug 27 21:48:55 <KingTorterraXIV> well your the person that uses lo scraggy too
  708. Aug 27 21:48:59 <merp> why does my usage account for nothing.
  709. Aug 27 21:49:11 <merp> and ive played random people on the ladder
  710. Aug 27 21:49:12 <merp> who ouse it
  711. Aug 27 21:49:18 <pokemon0078> are we assuming mixkrow is running brave bird or drill peck?
  712. Aug 27 21:49:24 <blarajan> brave bird
  713. Aug 27 21:49:25 <merp> brave bird
  714. Aug 27 21:49:25 <KingTorterraXIV> brave bird
  715. Aug 27 21:49:29 <pokemon0078> ok
  716. Aug 27 21:49:33 <merp> if its drill peck its easy to beat
  717. Aug 27 21:49:44 <Cheeseburger> brave bird maybe not
  718. Aug 27 21:49:58 <EndQuote> Should we add a spinner?
  719. Aug 27 21:50:05 <Emidoxx> staryu?
  720. Aug 27 21:50:07 <KingTorterraXIV> how much does another murkrow's brave bird do to murkrow
  721. Aug 27 21:50:08 <blarajan> oh lol we still have larvesta don't we
  722. Aug 27 21:50:11 <Snowflakes> Drilbur moldvreaker
  723. Aug 27 21:50:11 <blarajan> a lot
  724. Aug 27 21:50:12 <KingTorterraXIV> yeah
  725. Aug 27 21:50:14 <pokemon0078> yeah
  726. Aug 27 21:50:23 <Cheeseburger> current team staus
  727. Aug 27 21:50:27 <Cheeseburger> status*
  728. Aug 27 21:50:35 <blarajan> okay we have
  729. Aug 27 21:50:38 <KingTorterraXIV> dratini/magnemite/larvesta i think
  730. Aug 27 21:50:40 <pokemon0078> does larvesta + magnemite check murkrow sufficiently?
  731. Aug 27 21:50:49 <blarajan> i mean not really cause
  732. Aug 27 21:51:17 <blarajan> you mispredict but still outrun and brave bird it
  733. Aug 27 21:51:19 <blarajan> what if we try
  734. Aug 27 21:51:24 <blarajan> scarfvesta
  735. Aug 27 21:51:25 <blarajan> !
  736. Aug 27 21:51:27 <merp> oh larvesta burn
  737. Aug 27 21:51:28 <KingTorterraXIV> !
  738. Aug 27 21:51:37 <Snowflakes> You're insane
  739. Aug 27 21:51:49 <Snowflakes> flare blitz, charge upturn and what?
  740. Aug 27 21:51:52 <pokemon0078> wait we are running bulky attacker magnemite right?
  741. Aug 27 21:51:57 <KingTorterraXIV> yeah
  742. Aug 27 21:51:59 <blarajan> yeah we are
  743. Aug 27 21:52:33 <pokemon0078> flare blitz / wild charge / u-turn / will-o-wisp
  744. Aug 27 21:52:36 <pokemon0078> that might work
  745. Aug 27 21:52:43 <Snowflakes> For scarf
  746. Aug 27 21:52:46 <blarajan> well tbh probs not cause scarf can't switch into anything
  747. Aug 27 21:52:51 <blarajan> definitely bulky w/ morning sun
  748. Aug 27 21:52:52 <Snowflakes> Yeah
  749. Aug 27 21:52:58 <pokemon0078> ok
  750. Aug 27 21:52:59 <blarajan> so we got ourselves
  751. Aug 27 21:53:07 <pokemon0078> we still don't have a scarfer though
  752. Aug 27 21:53:12 <blarajan> we don't necessarily need one
  753. Aug 27 21:53:14 <KingTorterraXIV> scarfkrow :)
  754. Aug 27 21:53:19 <blarajan> scarfers aren't really that important in little cup is the thing
  755. Aug 27 21:53:25 <blarajan> since unless you're scarf porygon
  756. Aug 27 21:53:28 <blarajan> you lose to the fastest poke
  757. Aug 27 21:53:45 <pokemon0078> what is the fastest poke anyway?
  758. Aug 27 21:53:51 <Emidoxx> scarf porygon is useful for countering sand teams
  759. Aug 27 21:54:02 <Snowflakes> Drilbur
  760. Aug 27 21:54:06 <blarajan> drilbur, pokemon0078
  761. Aug 27 21:54:14 <pokemon0078> alright then
  762. Aug 27 21:54:24 <Snowflakes> And smovee scarf
  763. Aug 27 21:54:26 <Snowflakes> snover*
  764. Aug 27 21:54:33 <KingTorterraXIV> so are we using bulky larvesta?
  765. Aug 27 21:54:39 <blarajan> yeah
  766. Aug 27 21:54:58 <KingTorterraXIV> just the normal eviolite analysis?
  767. Aug 27 21:55:10 <blarajan> ya
  768. Aug 27 21:55:12 <pokemon0078> I imagine yeah
  769. Aug 27 21:55:20 <PoJ> Sorry guys, g2g, good luck
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  771. Aug 27 21:55:53 <blarajan> what about tirtouga, legit?
  772. Aug 27 21:56:00 <KingTorterraXIV> i like tirtouga
  773. Aug 27 21:56:02 <blarajan> that gives us another reason to use a spinner
  774. Aug 27 21:56:03 <EndQuote> I'd like to try tirtouga.
  775. Aug 27 21:56:04 <blarajan> too
  776. Aug 27 21:56:09 <pokemon0078> tirtouga seems excellent
  777. Aug 27 21:56:14 <KingTorterraXIV> yay
  778. Aug 27 21:56:17 <pokemon0078> smash?
  779. Aug 27 21:56:38 <KingTorterraXIV> i would believe so
  780. Aug 27 21:56:51 <blarajan> we do want sr too
  781. Aug 27 21:57:00 <blarajan> so a bulky one might work?
  782. Aug 27 21:57:02 <pokemon0078> that's what I was about to say
  783. Aug 27 21:57:04 <pokemon0078> yeah bulky
  784. Aug 27 21:57:05 <KingTorterraXIV> yeah
  785. Aug 27 21:57:10 <KingTorterraXIV> i havent tried bulky yet
  786. Aug 27 21:57:13 <blarajan> the things that check bulky tirtouga
  787. Aug 27 21:57:14 <pokemon0078> what kind of spread are we going for then?
  788. Aug 27 21:57:16 <blarajan> are primarily grass types
  789. Aug 27 21:57:17 <blarajan> like shroomish
  790. Aug 27 21:57:19 <blarajan> foongus
  791. Aug 27 21:57:21 <KingTorterraXIV> lileep
  792. Aug 27 21:57:22 <blarajan> lileep
  793. Aug 27 21:57:22 <blarajan> etc
  794. Aug 27 21:57:25 <blarajan> which are all set up on by dratini
  795. Aug 27 21:57:31 <pokemon0078> full physically defensive?
  796. Aug 27 21:57:32 <KingTorterraXIV> ya
  797. Aug 27 21:57:36 <blarajan> ummm
  798. Aug 27 21:57:44 <blarajan> before spread
  799. Aug 27 21:57:46 <blarajan> let's work on set
  800. Aug 27 21:57:49 <blarajan> stealth rock for sure
  801. Aug 27 21:57:49 <KingTorterraXIV> ya
  802. Aug 27 21:57:52 <blarajan> scald
  803. Aug 27 21:58:05 <Snowflakes> Scald edge, Sr knock off
  804. Aug 27 21:58:07 <blarajan> what about knock off?
  805. Aug 27 21:58:15 <blarajan> i don't think stone edge is a good thing right now
  806. Aug 27 21:58:20 <blarajan> i'd probably go with rock slide
  807. Aug 27 21:58:26 <KingTorterraXIV> lol
  808. Aug 27 21:58:36 <blarajan> it's just chip damage
  809. Aug 27 21:58:39 <Snowflakes> jus using moves me and ebesdt ised
  810. Aug 27 21:58:42 <Snowflakes> used*
  811. Aug 27 21:58:45 <pokemon0078> good idea
  812. Aug 27 21:58:53 <Snowflakes> We made bulky set awhile ago
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  814. Aug 27 21:59:22 * Cerberus sets mode +q #littlecup v
  815. Aug 27 21:59:22 * Cerberus gives channel operator status to v
  816. Aug 27 21:59:32 <blarajan> we would then have
  817. Aug 27 21:59:46 <blarajan> magnemite / larvesta, forming voltturn i guess
  818. Aug 27 21:59:47 <blarajan> for dratini
  819. Aug 27 21:59:55 <blarajan> and tirt gets a lot of sr opportunities that way
  820. Aug 27 22:00:01 <Snowflakes> Am I lagging?
  821. Aug 27 22:00:03 <Emidoxx> yay volturn
  822. Aug 27 22:00:03 <pokemon0078> evs?
  823. Aug 27 22:00:05 <Snowflakes> Yes I am
  824. Aug 27 22:00:12 <blarajan> hmm
  825. Aug 27 22:00:29 <KingTorterraXIV> still +1 scraggy hurts alot of the team
  826. Aug 27 22:00:36 <pokemon0078> max hp max def is 164 / 252 btw
  827. Aug 27 22:00:50 <KingTorterraXIV> for tirtouga?
  828. Aug 27 22:01:03 <blarajan> EVs: 244 HP / 12 Def / 12 SAtk / 236 SDef
  829. Aug 27 22:01:03 <blarajan> Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
  830. Aug 27 22:01:03 <blarajan> on tirtouga
  831. Aug 27 22:01:47 <KingTorterraXIV> man 26 defense with eviolite
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  833. Aug 27 22:01:53 <KingTorterraXIV> *27
  834. Aug 27 22:01:53 <blarajan> 27 actually
  835. Aug 27 22:01:56 <KingTorterraXIV> yeah
  836. Aug 27 22:01:58 <pokemon0078> oh
  837. Aug 27 22:02:16 <pokemon0078> I didn't notice that it hit 25 hp
  838. Aug 27 22:02:23 <blarajan> it's pretty bulky
  839. Aug 27 22:02:24 <blarajan> 25 / 27 / 21
  840. Aug 27 22:02:30 <KingTorterraXIV> for some reason i thought half of 18 was 8
  841. Aug 27 22:02:52 <pokemon0078> yeah that's an excellent spread blara
  842. Aug 27 22:03:04 <KingTorterraXIV> ^
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  844. Aug 27 22:03:31 * Cerberus gives voice to capefeather
  845. Aug 27 22:03:34 <pokemon0078> it gives max hp and boosts the weaker defense, as well as giving an extra point in def and spa
  846. Aug 27 22:04:08 <KingTorterraXIV> also good if the opponent is using sand
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  848. Aug 27 22:04:12 <KingTorterraXIV> sp def boost :P
  849. Aug 27 22:04:41 <blarajan> i'm thinking this looks pretty good right now
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  851. Aug 27 22:04:47 <KingTorterraXIV> yeah
  852. Aug 27 22:04:59 <blarajan> we have
  853. Aug 27 22:05:10 <blarajan> bulky magnemite / bulky larvesta / tirtouga / dratini
  854. Aug 27 22:05:17 <blarajan> anyone here want to point out big threats?
  855. Aug 27 22:05:23 <KingTorterraXIV> hmmm
  856. Aug 27 22:05:32 <KingTorterraXIV> +1 scraggy hurts alot of the team
  857. Aug 27 22:05:35 <blarajan> why?
  858. Aug 27 22:06:12 <KingTorterraXIV> well it kills mag, can 2ko tirtouga, idk how many hits dratiini can take
  859. Aug 27 22:06:16 <Snowflakes> Drilbur
  860. Aug 27 22:06:16 <Snowflakes> what do
  861. Aug 27 22:06:24 <KingTorterraXIV> oh yeah
  862. Aug 27 22:06:24 <pokemon0078> mienfoo with stone edge looks really annoying to deal with
  863. Aug 27 22:06:26 <KingTorterraXIV> and that
  864. Aug 27 22:06:44 <KingTorterraXIV> how bulky is dratini
  865. Aug 27 22:06:47 <KingTorterraXIV> guesstimate
  866. Aug 27 22:06:53 <blarajan> very.
  867. Aug 27 22:07:06 <blarajan> uh
  868. Aug 27 22:07:12 <blarajan> like over 30 when asleep
  869. Aug 27 22:07:17 <KingTorterraXIV> yeah
  870. Aug 27 22:07:20 <KingTorterraXIV> thats alot
  871. Aug 27 22:07:26 <KingTorterraXIV> so uhhh
  872. Aug 27 22:07:28 <KingTorterraXIV> idk
  873. Aug 27 22:07:53 <blarajan> so we don't like
  874. Aug 27 22:07:56 <blarajan> fighting types with rock attacks
  875. Aug 27 22:07:59 <blarajan> is what we're getting now?
  876. Aug 27 22:08:19 <KingTorterraXIV> i guess, cause dratini is so bulky when asleep
  877. Aug 27 22:08:28 <EndQuote> I kinda worry about Bulk Up Timburr.
  878. Aug 27 22:08:38 <pokemon0078> what is our ev spread on dratini?
  879. Aug 27 22:09:03 <blarajan> uhhh
  880. Aug 27 22:09:04 <KingTorterraXIV> 108hp/4atk/76def/156spdef/116speed jolly i think
  881. Aug 27 22:09:06 <blarajan> someone c/p for me please
  882. Aug 27 22:09:24 <KingTorterraXIV> i think that is it
  883. Aug 27 22:10:16 <pokemon0078> the one on-site or the above one?
  884. Aug 27 22:10:20 <blarajan> what do we like for rock type fighting?
  885. Aug 27 22:10:35 * elevator_musci (~elevator_@synIRC-F9934052.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) has joined #littlecup
  886. Aug 27 22:10:42 <pokemon0078> you mean rock/fighting coverage?
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  888. Aug 27 22:10:57 * elevator_musci is now known as elevator_music
  889. Aug 27 22:11:02 * Cerberus sets mode +a #littlecup elevator_music
  890. Aug 27 22:11:02 * Cerberus gives channel operator status to elevator_music
  891. Aug 27 22:11:17 <blarajan> yeah
  892. Aug 27 22:11:25 <blarajan> someone here c/p the team for em
  893. Aug 27 22:11:30 <pokemon0078> ok
  894. Aug 27 22:11:41 <pokemon0078> you mean the full sets?
  895. Aug 27 22:11:46 <blarajan> nah
  896. Aug 27 22:11:49 <elevator_music> just the pokes is fine
  897. Aug 27 22:11:50 <blarajan> just what we have
  898. Aug 27 22:11:53 <blarajan> and basic spreads
  899. Aug 27 22:12:07 <blarajan> and sets
  900. Aug 27 22:12:11 <blarajan> anyone here wanna?
  901. Aug 27 22:12:22 <pokemon0078> sure then
  902. Aug 27 22:13:07 <Cheeseburger> pastebin blajaran
  903. Aug 27 22:13:17 <blarajan> i haven't been building it lol
  904. Aug 27 22:13:27 <Cheeseburger> blajaran!
  905. Aug 27 22:13:30 <Cheeseburger> :(
  906. Aug 27 22:13:39 * Cheeseburger is now known as CBTerrakion
  907. Aug 27 22:13:49 <pokemon0078> resttalk dd dratini w/ 108 HP / 4 Atk / 76 Def / 156 SpD / 116 Spe Jolly | bulky larvesta | bulky tirtouga | bulky attacker magnemite
  908. Aug 27 22:13:53 <CBTerrakion> pastebin plox
  909. Aug 27 22:13:57 <pokemon0078> is that what you wanted?
  910. Aug 27 22:14:03 <CBTerrakion> yeah
  911. Aug 27 22:14:04 <elevator_music> thats perfect, thanks
  912. Aug 27 22:14:21 <elevator_music> that seems like a good start to me
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  915. Aug 27 22:14:42 <KingTorterra> ok my internet just died
  916. Aug 27 22:14:44 <pokemon0078> oh and tirtouga is running 244 HP / 12 Def / 12 SpA / 236 SpD Relaxed
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  918. Aug 27 22:14:55 <KingTorterra> ok there
  919. Aug 27 22:15:04 <blarajan> is anyone building this for me
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  921. Aug 27 22:15:06 <blarajan> i'd love you forever
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  923. Aug 27 22:15:09 <pokemon0078> on pastebin blara?
  924. Aug 27 22:15:18 <blarajan> yes plz
  925. Aug 27 22:15:19 <pokemon0078> I will do it if you want
  926. Aug 27 22:15:22 <blarajan> <3
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  928. Aug 27 22:15:32 <KingTorterraXIV> ok fixed
  929. Aug 27 22:15:50 <KingTorterraXIV> did we add anything new yet?
  930. Aug 27 22:16:01 <elevator_music> I'm thinking we're going to want something else that plays comfortably against misdreavus
  931. Aug 27 22:16:33 <elevator_music> and something for scraggy?
  932. Aug 27 22:16:35 <blarajan> and fighting types with rock type attacks
  933. Aug 27 22:16:43 <elevator_music> mhmm (like LO mienfoo)
  934. Aug 27 22:16:53 <KingTorterraXIV> lol lo mienfoo
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  936. Aug 27 22:17:11 <CBTerrakion> http://pastebin.com/Esw1Bsvu
  937. Aug 27 22:17:25 <blarajan> em fuck
  938. Aug 27 22:17:30 <blarajan> i legit gotta go
  939. Aug 27 22:17:32 <blarajan> can you please finish it
  940. Aug 27 22:17:38 <merp> me and em got this
  941. Aug 27 22:17:38 <merp> !
  942. Aug 27 22:17:40 <elevator_music> sure thing
  943. Aug 27 22:17:43 <elevator_music> lol that pastebin
  944. Aug 27 22:17:48 <KingTorterraXIV> ok we didnt add anything new
  945. Aug 27 22:17:52 <KingTorterraXIV> since i left
  946. Aug 27 22:18:08 <elevator_music> so i think the fighting pokemon are more pressing
  947. Aug 27 22:18:12 <elevator_music> we should focus on that right now
  948. Aug 27 22:18:17 <EndQuote> http://pastebin.com/pNF8rub5
  949. Aug 27 22:18:20 <merp> ARCHEN BRO
  950. Aug 27 22:18:21 <blarajan> sorry guys
  951. Aug 27 22:18:22 <merp> or missy
  952. Aug 27 22:18:24 <blarajan> em plz finish
  953. Aug 27 22:18:29 <EndQuote> What about a Murkrow?
  954. Aug 27 22:18:31 <merp> idk why we havent agreed on missy yet
  955. Aug 27 22:18:32 <elevator_music> misdreavus could work
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  957. Aug 27 22:18:34 <merp> murkrow
  958. Aug 27 22:18:39 <EndQuote> If we need something to check missy and fighting-types.
  959. Aug 27 22:18:40 <merp> can be played around
  960. Aug 27 22:18:52 <EndQuote> Merp, so can everything...
  961. Aug 27 22:18:56 <merp> i mean
  962. Aug 27 22:18:57 <merp> with what we have
  963. Aug 27 22:19:00 <elevator_music> well its really: LO mienfoo, scraggy, and misdreavus we need to worry about
  964. Aug 27 22:19:06 <merp> hell even if we have missy
  965. Aug 27 22:19:08 <elevator_music> only mienfoo sometimes runs rock attacks
  966. Aug 27 22:19:10 <merp> we can play around murkrow easier
  967. Aug 27 22:19:10 <EndQuote> No, I mean what if we used Murkrow?
  968. Aug 27 22:19:15 <merp> oh
  969. Aug 27 22:19:22 <elevator_music> scraggy because we cant rely on larvesta to deal with it
  970. Aug 27 22:19:22 <merp> that solves revenging
  971. Aug 27 22:19:26 <EndQuote> Murkrow can help against fighting-types, and missy.
  972. Aug 27 22:19:30 <KingTorterraXIV> scarfkrow!
  973. Aug 27 22:19:31 <elevator_music> and missy because we lack good switchins to it atm
  974. Aug 27 22:19:33 <merp> but it cant come in
  975. Aug 27 22:19:38 <elevator_music> speaking of which
  976. Aug 27 22:19:46 <elevator_music> its criminal to run larvesta without a spinner
  977. Aug 27 22:20:01 <EndQuote> Forgot about the spinner.
  978. Aug 27 22:20:12 <elevator_music> our options are pretty much just drilbur and staryu
  979. Aug 27 22:20:24 <elevator_music> every other spinner in LC is mediocre at best
  980. Aug 27 22:20:27 <pokemon0078> yeah we need a spinner
  981. Aug 27 22:20:29 <KingTorterraXIV> yeah
  982. Aug 27 22:20:38 <KingTorterraXIV> mold breaker drilbur :P
  983. Aug 27 22:20:42 <elevator_music> we could also run natu, but that only makes our current problems worse
  984. Aug 27 22:20:55 <EndQuote> What about Anorith?
  985. Aug 27 22:21:00 <elevator_music> we might need to replace one of our current pokemon
  986. Aug 27 22:21:07 <merp> mediocre
  987. Aug 27 22:21:15 <elevator_music> anorith will have problems staying alive and doesnt really add anything to the team
  988. Aug 27 22:21:20 <elevator_music> tbh, i like staryu on this team
  989. Aug 27 22:21:21 <KingTorterraXIV> we got dratini/mag/larvesta/tirtouga
  990. Aug 27 22:21:39 <merp> is it
  991. Aug 27 22:21:39 <elevator_music> because it draws in chinchou, ferroseed, shroomish/foongus, lileep, etc
  992. Aug 27 22:21:41 <merp> lo staryu
  993. Aug 27 22:21:42 <merp> ?
  994. Aug 27 22:21:48 <elevator_music> those are all pokemon dratini can set up on
  995. Aug 27 22:22:04 <KingTorterraXIV> that does work i guess
  996. Aug 27 22:22:06 <elevator_music> it might be better to run eviolite so it can have an easier time spinning
  997. Aug 27 22:22:18 <elevator_music> also 19 speed will help against lo mienfoo and to an extent missy
  998. Aug 27 22:22:24 <KingTorterraXIV> yeah
  999. Aug 27 22:22:30 <elevator_music> as much as i hate it
  1000. Aug 27 22:22:34 <KingTorterraXIV> how well does missy take hydro pumps?
  1001. Aug 27 22:22:43 <elevator_music> it might be good to get rid of either tirtouga or magnemite
  1002. Aug 27 22:22:45 <pokemon0078> staryu sounds pretty good
  1003. Aug 27 22:22:50 <elevator_music> most missy are 2hkoed
  1004. Aug 27 22:22:54 <elevator_music> unless theyre really bulky
  1005. Aug 27 22:23:03 <KingTorterraXIV> if we get rid of tirtouga
  1006. Aug 27 22:23:04 <elevator_music> but bulky ones are setup for dratini too i think
  1007. Aug 27 22:23:05 * drakon136 is now known as drakon|gone
  1008. Aug 27 22:23:09 <KingTorterraXIV> we need another way of getting up rocks
  1009. Aug 27 22:23:21 <elevator_music> hmmm
  1010. Aug 27 22:23:23 <elevator_music> you know
  1011. Aug 27 22:23:29 <pokemon0078> magnemite is being used to lure stuff for dratini to set up on mostly
  1012. Aug 27 22:23:37 <elevator_music> what helps against mienfoo AND misdreavus (and sorta scraggy but not really anymore lol)
  1013. Aug 27 22:23:41 <elevator_music> is croagunk
  1014. Aug 27 22:23:43 <elevator_music> x.x
  1015. Aug 27 22:23:48 <KingTorterraXIV> well
  1016. Aug 27 22:23:56 <KingTorterraXIV> we thought of croagunk
  1017. Aug 27 22:23:59 <merp> didnt we agree on croagunk
  1018. Aug 27 22:24:00 <merp> a whlie ago
  1019. Aug 27 22:24:00 <KingTorterraXIV> but mixkrow x.x
  1020. Aug 27 22:24:08 <elevator_music> what about mixkrow?
  1021. Aug 27 22:24:17 <pokemon0078> doesn't tirtouga take most of what mixkrow has?
  1022. Aug 27 22:24:25 <KingTorterraXIV> besides like
  1023. Aug 27 22:24:27 <KingTorterraXIV> hp grass
  1024. Aug 27 22:24:29 <pokemon0078> I mean other than HP Grass tirtouga takes brave bird and heat wave
  1025. Aug 27 22:24:34 <KingTorterraXIV> yeah
  1026. Aug 27 22:24:36 <pokemon0078> and sucker punch
  1027. Aug 27 22:24:53 <KingTorterraXIV> just before we were concerned about a well played mixkrow
  1028. Aug 27 22:24:58 <KingTorterraXIV> when we had like
  1029. Aug 27 22:25:04 <KingTorterraXIV> dratini/larvesta/mag
  1030. Aug 27 22:25:20 <elevator_music> dratini/magnemite/croagunk/tirtouga/staryu/larvesta
  1031. Aug 27 22:25:21 <elevator_music> hmm
  1032. Aug 27 22:25:39 <pokemon0078> that seems pretty okay
  1033. Aug 27 22:25:40 * v (vi@veri.veniversum.vivus.vici) has joined #littlecup
  1034. Aug 27 22:25:40 * Cerberus sets mode +q #littlecup v
  1035. Aug 27 22:25:40 * Cerberus gives channel operator status to v
  1036. Aug 27 22:25:45 <KingTorterraXIV> hmmm
  1037. Aug 27 22:25:46 <pokemon0078> what can't we deal with?
  1038. Aug 27 22:25:50 <elevator_music> prem can you see anything that really screws that up
  1039. Aug 27 22:25:50 <merp> lets get vader's opinion on this team
  1040. Aug 27 22:25:52 <elevator_music> scraggy i guess
  1041. Aug 27 22:25:57 <merp> scraggy
  1042. Aug 27 22:25:59 <elevator_music> since they all run zen headbutt now
  1043. Aug 27 22:26:02 <merp> obviously
  1044. Aug 27 22:26:05 <KingTorterraXIV> scarfkrow :P
  1045. Aug 27 22:26:14 <merp> staryu takes the hit
  1046. Aug 27 22:26:19 <elevator_music> we could just throw foongus over magnemite i guess x.x
  1047. Aug 27 22:26:19 <merp> tirtouga beats it
  1048. Aug 27 22:26:26 <merp> what would that do?
  1049. Aug 27 22:26:33 <merp> how does foongus beat scraggy
  1050. Aug 27 22:26:33 <pokemon0078> does larvesta do okay against scraggy?
  1051. Aug 27 22:26:36 <merp> yes
  1052. Aug 27 22:26:37 <elevator_music> cant that help against scraggy?
  1053. Aug 27 22:26:44 <merp> how?
  1054. Aug 27 22:26:49 <merp> get set up on
  1055. Aug 27 22:26:50 <elevator_music> with clear smog and giga drain
  1056. Aug 27 22:26:50 <merp> whlie shed skin
  1057. Aug 27 22:26:53 <merp> kicks your ass
  1058. Aug 27 22:26:54 <merp> h
  1059. Aug 27 22:26:58 <merp> idk i run knock off
  1060. Aug 27 22:27:00 <merp> so i would prolly win
  1061. Aug 27 22:27:04 <KingTorterraXIV> zen headbutt
  1062. Aug 27 22:27:08 <elevator_music> oh true
  1063. Aug 27 22:27:15 <elevator_music> ok umm
  1064. Aug 27 22:28:06 <KingTorterraXIV> so what do we have now?
  1065. Aug 27 22:28:33 <pokemon0078> nothing different
  1066. Aug 27 22:28:39 <KingTorterraXIV> ok
  1067. Aug 27 22:28:51 <KingTorterraXIV> we might add staryu and croagunk though
  1068. Aug 27 22:28:58 <KingTorterraXIV> if my understanding is correct
  1069. Aug 27 22:29:38 <elevator_music> the only problem i can see there is scraggy, and to an extent drilbur
  1070. Aug 27 22:29:49 <KingTorterraXIV> yeah
  1071. Aug 27 22:29:50 <merp> scraggy and drilbur are issues to every team
  1072. Aug 27 22:29:52 <elevator_music> because we have no ground resists and 3 weaknesses lol
  1073. Aug 27 22:30:05 <EndQuote> We could use a cleric, too.
  1074. Aug 27 22:30:09 <KingTorterraXIV> 3 weaknesses?
  1075. Aug 27 22:30:13 <KingTorterraXIV> i only see 2
  1076. Aug 27 22:30:17 <elevator_music> mag/croagunk/tirtouga
  1077. Aug 27 22:30:21 <KingTorterraXIV> oh
  1078. Aug 27 22:30:25 <EndQuote> Actually, we could remain cleric/less
  1079. Aug 27 22:30:28 <KingTorterraXIV> so we did add croagunk and staryu!
  1080. Aug 27 22:30:37 <elevator_music> well i was just toying with that idea
  1081. Aug 27 22:30:47 <elevator_music> i can see why we would shirk away from croagunk though
  1082. Aug 27 22:30:48 <KingTorterraXIV> hmmm
  1083. Aug 27 22:30:55 <elevator_music> imo staryu is a must if we run larvesta
  1084. Aug 27 22:31:03 <elevator_music> (on this team anyways)
  1085. Aug 27 22:31:19 <merp> yes it is
  1086. Aug 27 22:31:31 <merp> scraggy
  1087. Aug 27 22:31:38 <CBTerrakion> merp
  1088. Aug 27 22:31:40 <merp> just has to get beaten down enough by dratini
  1089. Aug 27 22:31:41 <elevator_music> umm ok
  1090. Aug 27 22:31:42 <merp> and stuff
  1091. Aug 27 22:31:46 <merp> and then beat with croagunk
  1092. Aug 27 22:31:47 <elevator_music> what are our options against scraggy
  1093. Aug 27 22:31:48 <merp> if not we cry
  1094. Aug 27 22:32:05 <elevator_music> mienfoo is redundant on this team, and shelmet doesnt really fit
  1095. Aug 27 22:32:07 <elevator_music> "koffing"
  1096. Aug 27 22:32:09 <KingTorterraXIV> scarf mons
  1097. Aug 27 22:32:09 <elevator_music> umm
  1098. Aug 27 22:32:13 <elevator_music> or just a scarf poke
  1099. Aug 27 22:32:13 <KingTorterraXIV> scarfkrow :P
  1100. Aug 27 22:32:15 <merp> SHELMET OVER LARVESTA
  1101. Aug 27 22:32:18 <elevator_music> which is acceptable heh
  1102. Aug 27 22:32:28 <KingTorterraXIV> lol
  1103. Aug 27 22:32:34 <merp> what does larvesta do for this team that shelmet doesnt lol
  1104. Aug 27 22:32:39 <merp> then we dont even need staryu
  1105. Aug 27 22:32:58 <elevator_music> does anyone have the log where we picked larvesta
  1106. Aug 27 22:33:04 <elevator_music> actually does anyone have the full log?
  1107. Aug 27 22:33:10 <EndQuote> ...playing one right now...
  1108. Aug 27 22:33:17 <pokemon0078> of what?
  1109. Aug 27 22:33:27 <EndQuote> Whoops thought EM meant battle log
  1110. Aug 27 22:33:27 <KingTorterraXIV> i dont cause my computer dropped me from the chat
  1111. Aug 27 22:33:29 <elevator_music> this session
  1112. Aug 27 22:33:37 <elevator_music> iss do you?
  1113. Aug 27 22:33:58 <iss> yeah i do
  1114. Aug 27 22:34:03 <elevator_music> ok
  1115. Aug 27 22:34:06 <pokemon0078> I have a log as well
  1116. Aug 27 22:34:08 <elevator_music> were you here when we picked larvesta?
  1117. Aug 27 22:34:10 * You are now known as iss|afk
  1118. Aug 27 22:34:10 * services.synirc.net sets mode +r iss|afk
  1119. Aug 27 22:34:12 <iss|afk> probably
  1120. Aug 27 22:34:23 <elevator_music> hmm
  1121. Aug 27 22:34:32 <iss|afk> i have to go now though
  1122. Aug 27 22:34:34 <elevator_music> i can see dropping larvesta (and even keeping staryu)
  1123. Aug 27 22:34:35 <KingTorterraXIV> i was, but my internet dropped me
  1124. Aug 27 22:34:35 <iss|afk> i'll post the full log later
  1125. Aug 27 22:34:43 <elevator_music> ok, thanks
  1126. Aug 27 22:34:56 <KingTorterraXIV> i think i was the one that suggested larvesta, but i cant remeber why
  1127. Aug 27 22:35:01 <pokemon0078> we picked larvesta because we wanted a fighting resist
  1128. Aug 27 22:35:07 <KingTorterraXIV> oh ya
  1129. Aug 27 22:35:13 <pokemon0078> that could work against mienfoo and scraggy
  1130. Aug 27 22:35:15 <KingTorterraXIV> but shelmet does that too
  1131. Aug 27 22:35:24 <KingTorterraXIV> kinda
  1132. Aug 27 22:35:34 <KingTorterraXIV> it cant hurt them really is the problem
  1133. Aug 27 22:35:35 <merp> we wanted a fighting resist
  1134. Aug 27 22:35:37 <merp> and picked larvesta
  1135. Aug 27 22:35:54 <merp> shelmet hurts timburr scraggy mienfoo and croagunk
  1136. Aug 27 22:35:58 <merp> which is what we want to hit
  1137. Aug 27 22:36:01 <KingTorterraXIV> wait
  1138. Aug 27 22:36:08 <KingTorterraXIV> how does it hurt them
  1139. Aug 27 22:36:09 * Vaz (~cgiirc@synIRC-8F1E958E.brodm3.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #littlecup
  1140. Aug 27 22:36:11 <KingTorterraXIV> all i can think of is
  1141. Aug 27 22:36:12 <merp> hp flying
  1142. Aug 27 22:36:12 <pokemon0078> we wanted it to have recovery
  1143. Aug 27 22:36:13 <KingTorterraXIV> bug buzz
  1144. Aug 27 22:36:19 <elevator_music> it just stalls them out lol
  1145. Aug 27 22:36:25 <merp> it hurts them at the same time
  1146. Aug 27 22:36:25 <merp> !
  1147. Aug 27 22:36:28 <elevator_music> yea
  1148. Aug 27 22:36:41 <elevator_music> between shelmet and croagunk we should be set
  1149. Aug 27 22:36:43 <elevator_music> ok
  1150. Aug 27 22:36:46 <merp> and now
  1151. Aug 27 22:36:46 <elevator_music> i guess shelmet will work
  1152. Aug 27 22:36:47 <pokemon0078> however I think shelmet is a good idea
  1153. Aug 27 22:36:49 <merp> we can get rid of staryu
  1154. Aug 27 22:36:51 <merp> and put something
  1155. Aug 27 22:36:53 <pokemon0078> that gives us
  1156. Aug 27 22:36:55 <merp> that is actually threatening there
  1157. Aug 27 22:36:56 <merp> !
  1158. Aug 27 22:37:04 <elevator_music> nah we should still run a spinner with shelmet
  1159. Aug 27 22:37:17 <KingTorterraXIV> so dratini/mag/shelmet/staryu/tirtouga?
  1160. Aug 27 22:37:23 <KingTorterraXIV> if i am correst
  1161. Aug 27 22:37:29 <KingTorterraXIV> *correct
  1162. Aug 27 22:37:30 <elevator_music> shelmet is really bleh without a spinner
  1163. Aug 27 22:37:44 <KingTorterraXIV> shelmet is bleh in general for me
  1164. Aug 27 22:37:45 * Borogoves has quit (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF))
  1165. Aug 27 22:37:51 <EndQuote> Ha, dratini just took down a SD Drilbur in sand.
  1166. Aug 27 22:37:54 <EndQuote> I like this team.
  1167. Aug 27 22:37:57 <EndQuote> http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-lc879788
  1168. Aug 27 22:38:19 <elevator_music> what are options that help check drilbur
  1169. Aug 27 22:38:24 <KingTorterraXIV> lileep
  1170. Aug 27 22:38:35 <KingTorterraXIV> but it doesnt really work on this team
  1171. Aug 27 22:38:37 <elevator_music> since we have tirtouga all we need is something else to check it with
  1172. Aug 27 22:39:02 <elevator_music> hmm the problem is we're still going to want a better switch to misdreavus
  1173. Aug 27 22:39:07 <elevator_music> i cant think of something that does both
  1174. Aug 27 22:39:35 <KingTorterraXIV> porygon maybe?
  1175. Aug 27 22:39:40 <KingTorterraXIV> idk how much damage eq does
  1176. Aug 27 22:39:48 <EndQuote> Murkrow can Sucker Punch Drilbur to help out, but can't swap into defensive missy. (WoW)
  1177. Aug 27 22:40:00 <elevator_music> we still need something that does alright against fighting-types with rock moves
  1178. Aug 27 22:40:09 <elevator_music> shelmet loses to those (lo mienfoo)
  1179. Aug 27 22:40:19 <merp> lo mienfoo loes to something faster than i
  1180. Aug 27 22:40:20 <merp> it
  1181. Aug 27 22:40:23 <merp> do we have nothing like that?
  1182. Aug 27 22:40:23 <KingTorterraXIV> abraaaaaaaaaaa
  1183. Aug 27 22:40:37 <pokemon0078> croagunk does good though doesn't it?
  1184. Aug 27 22:40:58 <elevator_music> we can throw in gunk but that still leaves us scared of drilbur
  1185. Aug 27 22:41:09 <elevator_music> though then i guess we can switch magnemite for like
  1186. Aug 27 22:41:26 <elevator_music> idk something not frightened of drilbur or murkrow
  1187. Aug 27 22:41:36 <KingTorterraXIV> scarfkrow!!!!
  1188. Aug 27 22:41:45 <KingTorterraXIV> :D
  1189. Aug 27 22:42:03 <EndQuote> Focus Sash MG Abra can kick Mienfoo's a** if you use Protect.
  1190. Aug 27 22:42:03 <merp> em
  1191. Aug 27 22:42:05 <elevator_music> that doesnt help much against drilbur lol
  1192. Aug 27 22:42:08 <elevator_music> subroost krow might though
  1193. Aug 27 22:42:11 <elevator_music> ?
  1194. Aug 27 22:42:13 <merp> nothing fufills that requirement
  1195. Aug 27 22:42:13 <merp> lol
  1196. Aug 27 22:42:48 <KingTorterraXIV> well abra takes care of fighting types
  1197. Aug 27 22:42:50 <elevator_music> i do think subroost krow is good in that spot
  1198. Aug 27 22:43:01 <KingTorterraXIV> in place of mag?
  1199. Aug 27 22:43:14 <elevator_music> it helps with fighting types and drilbur and other krow a bit and misdreavus a bit
  1200. Aug 27 22:43:28 <elevator_music> though we're set against fighting-types lol
  1201. Aug 27 22:43:48 <elevator_music> yea in place of mag
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  1203. Aug 27 22:44:03 <elevator_music> because i'd rather remove magnemite than tirtouga at this point :((
  1204. Aug 27 22:44:49 * HSA (Mibbit@as.cool.as.an.ice.mongoose) has joined #littlecup
  1205. Aug 27 22:44:49 <elevator_music> ok so that would give us
  1206. Aug 27 22:45:10 <elevator_music> dratini/tirtouga/shelmet/staryu/croagunk/misdreavus
  1207. Aug 27 22:45:24 <elevator_music> err i mean murkrow
  1208. Aug 27 22:45:26 <elevator_music> not misdreavus
  1209. Aug 27 22:45:59 -elevator_music/#littlecup- does anyone have any opinions on this lol?
  1210. Aug 27 22:46:04 <KingTorterraXIV> hmmm
  1211. Aug 27 22:46:09 <KingTorterraXIV> i'm thinking D:
  1212. Aug 27 22:46:21 <KingTorterraXIV> um
  1213. Aug 27 22:46:28 <KingTorterraXIV> what croagunk set?
  1214. Aug 27 22:46:31 <HSA> what set on krow?
  1215. Aug 27 22:46:36 <KingTorterraXIV> subroost
  1216. Aug 27 22:46:45 <elevator_music> fake out croagunk/sucker punch murkrow (and aqua jet tirouga??) should help against drilbur
  1217. Aug 27 22:46:50 <elevator_music> even though i dont like aj tirtouga
  1218. Aug 27 22:46:54 <elevator_music> umm some bulky set
  1219. Aug 27 22:46:59 <elevator_music> whatever is in the analysis will probably be fine
  1220. Aug 27 22:47:06 <KingTorterraXIV> ok
  1221. Aug 27 22:47:12 <EndQuote> The analysis set has Vacuum wave too.
  1222. Aug 27 22:47:15 <elevator_music> something with a lot of special defense is better though since its our primary misdreavus switch
  1223. Aug 27 22:47:16 <elevator_music> oh
  1224. Aug 27 22:47:24 <KingTorterraXIV> what would we replace aj for on tirtouga
  1225. Aug 27 22:47:32 <elevator_music> what do we have atm?
  1226. Aug 27 22:47:36 <KingTorterraXIV> we got sr/knockoff/scald/rockslide
  1227. Aug 27 22:47:43 <elevator_music> ahh
  1228. Aug 27 22:47:44 <elevator_music> umm
  1229. Aug 27 22:47:46 <EndQuote> Why rock slide over stone edge?
  1230. Aug 27 22:47:48 <elevator_music> i guess knock off :(
  1231. Aug 27 22:47:52 <EndQuote> Just out of curiosity
  1232. Aug 27 22:47:56 <KingTorterraXIV> cause blara hates se
  1233. Aug 27 22:48:03 <elevator_music> idk, its probably more reliable on a defensive poke
  1234. Aug 27 22:48:14 <elevator_music> our team doesnt need knock off does it?
  1235. Aug 27 22:48:15 <HSA> isn't this team kind of Magnemite weak
  1236. Aug 27 22:48:21 <KingTorterraXIV> idk
  1237. Aug 27 22:48:25 <HSA> I mean your only switch is dratini
  1238. Aug 27 22:48:26 <KingTorterraXIV> nah
  1239. Aug 27 22:48:27 <elevator_music> oh
  1240. Aug 27 22:48:29 <elevator_music> yea haha
  1241. Aug 27 22:48:38 <elevator_music> dratini probably hates flash cannon
  1242. Aug 27 22:48:44 <elevator_music> and murkrow gives magnemite a free switch
  1243. Aug 27 22:48:44 <HSA> ^
  1244. Aug 27 22:48:50 <KingTorterraXIV> yeah uh
  1245. Aug 27 22:48:55 <KingTorterraXIV> only 19 def
  1246. Aug 27 22:48:58 <KingTorterraXIV> *sp def
  1247. Aug 27 22:49:04 <EndQuote> Knock Off is the best move.
  1248. Aug 27 22:49:06 <EndQuote> Evver.
  1249. Aug 27 22:49:35 <elevator_music> hmm
  1250. Aug 27 22:49:40 <elevator_music> i dont know what we can do against magnemite
  1251. Aug 27 22:49:45 <merp> we
  1252. Aug 27 22:49:47 <elevator_music> we're actually also snover weak i think
  1253. Aug 27 22:49:51 <merp> knock off with croagunk
  1254. Aug 27 22:49:55 <merp> croagunk and shelmet handle
  1255. Aug 27 22:50:11 <elevator_music> wouldnt you rather just handle magnemite instead of knock off?
  1256. Aug 27 22:50:18 <elevator_music> or do you mean to compensate for tirtouga not having it
  1257. Aug 27 22:50:21 <merp> oh
  1258. Aug 27 22:50:26 <merp> wait what tirtouga are we running?
  1259. Aug 27 22:50:37 <elevator_music> i guess sr/aqua jet/scald/rock slide
  1260. Aug 27 22:50:49 <elevator_music> only because we need aqua jet atm for drilbur
  1261. Aug 27 22:50:50 <elevator_music> oh
  1262. Aug 27 22:50:52 <elevator_music> wait
  1263. Aug 27 22:51:00 <elevator_music> since we're not running larvesta anymore
  1264. Aug 27 22:51:08 <elevator_music> it could be an option to run a snover of our own
  1265. Aug 27 22:51:16 <KingTorterraXIV> !
  1266. Aug 27 22:51:19 <elevator_music> which helps with drilbur and also we wont need aqua jet
  1267. Aug 27 22:51:26 <KingTorterraXIV> so
  1268. Aug 27 22:51:28 <elevator_music> it doesnt really help with magnemite or other snover though
  1269. Aug 27 22:51:32 <KingTorterraXIV> would it be in place of what
  1270. Aug 27 22:52:16 <elevator_music> hmm
  1271. Aug 27 22:52:19 <elevator_music> actually idk
  1272. Aug 27 22:52:24 <elevator_music> so maybe its not a good idea hah
  1273. Aug 27 22:52:33 <merp> okay i have a question
  1274. Aug 27 22:52:35 <elevator_music> maybe we shouldnt run murkrow either :S
  1275. Aug 27 22:52:39 <merp> where is the thing that can actualy hurt things
  1276. Aug 27 22:52:41 <merp> on this team
  1277. Aug 27 22:52:45 <elevator_music> subroost krow lol
  1278. Aug 27 22:52:47 <merp> oh
  1279. Aug 27 22:52:49 <merp> we have krow
  1280. Aug 27 22:52:52 <merp> when did that happen
  1281. Aug 27 22:53:15 <elevator_music> i threw it in when we were at dratini/tirtouga/shelmet/staryu/croagunk
  1282. Aug 27 22:53:26 <elevator_music> because it helped a little with drilbur/misdreavus/other krows
  1283. Aug 27 22:53:35 <elevator_music> i mean none of those super well
  1284. Aug 27 22:53:41 <elevator_music> but all of those a little, you know
  1285. Aug 27 22:53:53 <elevator_music> also yea it gave us offense hehe
  1286. Aug 27 22:56:13 <elevator_music> ok well that batch of 6
  1287. Aug 27 22:56:17 <elevator_music> - has problems with magnemite
  1288. Aug 27 22:56:21 <elevator_music> - has problems with snover
  1289. Aug 27 22:56:32 <KingTorterraXIV> so our team is dratini/murkrow/shelmet/tirtouga/staryu/croagunk if im not mistaken
  1290. Aug 27 22:56:36 <elevator_music> thats it though?
  1291. Aug 27 22:56:46 <KingTorterraXIV> looks about it
  1292. Aug 27 22:56:57 <KingTorterraXIV> unless scraggy at +1 has sen headbutt
  1293. Aug 27 22:57:11 <merp> even then
  1294. Aug 27 22:57:11 <KingTorterraXIV> idk how well shelmet handles scraggy
  1295. Aug 27 22:57:14 <merp> we can work around it
  1296. Aug 27 22:57:15 <merp> shelmet
  1297. Aug 27 22:57:17 <merp> like hardcounters
  1298. Aug 27 22:57:18 <merp> lol
  1299. Aug 27 22:57:29 <KingTorterraXIV> give me the shelmet set plx
  1300. Aug 27 22:57:34 <merp> uhh
  1301. Aug 27 22:57:40 <merp> acid armor recover hp flying spikes/yawn
  1302. Aug 27 22:57:46 <elevator_music> uggh this is annoying
  1303. Aug 27 22:57:49 <KingTorterraXIV> lolk
  1304. Aug 27 22:57:54 <elevator_music> we could run our magnemite over tirtouga
  1305. Aug 27 22:57:57 <elevator_music> at the cost of SR
  1306. Aug 27 22:57:59 <v> oye
  1307. Aug 27 22:58:01 <v> fuck emma
  1308. Aug 27 22:58:03 <iss|afk> btw
  1309. Aug 27 22:58:04 <elevator_music> but it helps so much with both magnemite and snover
  1310. Aug 27 22:58:08 <merp> i bet vs advice is
  1311. Aug 27 22:58:11 <merp> "use munchlax"
  1312. Aug 27 22:58:13 <iss|afk> actually nvm
  1313. Aug 27 22:58:17 <iss|afk> hi v
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  1315. Aug 27 22:58:23 <KingTorterraXIV> hi v
  1316. Aug 27 22:58:58 <v> hi
  1317. Aug 27 22:59:01 <v> real talk
  1318. Aug 27 22:59:09 <v> prem and blarajan are evil
  1319. Aug 27 22:59:30 <KingTorterraXIV> lol
  1320. Aug 27 22:59:33 <v> indians
  1321. Aug 27 22:59:35 <v> cant trust em
  1322. Aug 27 22:59:39 <merp> fucking dick
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  1324. Aug 27 22:59:44 <elevator_music> what do you guys think about running magnemite over tirtouga
  1325. Aug 27 22:59:49 <merp> i agree
  1326. Aug 27 22:59:51 <merp> in every sense
  1327. Aug 27 22:59:56 <elevator_music> we then lack SR and are a little worse off against drilbur
  1328. Aug 27 23:00:08 <iss|afk> aren't we ridiculously drilbur weak already anyways lol
  1329. Aug 27 23:00:16 <KingTorterraXIV> lol
  1330. Aug 27 23:00:18 <iss|afk> +2 sweeps if it has protect
  1331. Aug 27 23:00:19 <merp> bulky tirtouga aj
  1332. Aug 27 23:00:20 <merp> wont help for shit
  1333. Aug 27 23:00:21 <merp> lol
  1334. Aug 27 23:00:22 <iss|afk> and rock slide
  1335. Aug 27 23:00:28 <iss|afk> like traditional drilbur
  1336. Aug 27 23:00:41 <elevator_music> i guess SR is whatever since we have spikes
  1337. Aug 27 23:00:57 <KingTorterraXIV> i guess
  1338. Aug 27 23:00:59 <elevator_music> idk i figured between subroost krow and croagunk and tirtouga it would be "alright"
  1339. Aug 27 23:01:06 <iss|afk> run air balloon magnemite
  1340. Aug 27 23:01:09 <iss|afk> drilbur counter bam
  1341. Aug 27 23:01:11 <elevator_music> because there wasnt much we could do about it otherwise
  1342. Aug 27 23:01:11 <iss|afk> (jk)
  1343. Aug 27 23:01:13 <elevator_music> lol
  1344. Aug 27 23:01:16 <elevator_music> youre garbage
  1345. Aug 27 23:01:18 <elevator_music> but
  1346. Aug 27 23:01:19 <elevator_music> hmm
  1347. Aug 27 23:01:24 <iss|afk> air balloon mag sucks
  1348. Aug 27 23:01:25 <iss|afk> don't use it
  1349. Aug 27 23:01:33 <iss|afk> anyways afk
  1350. Aug 27 23:01:33 <elevator_music> dratini/magnemite/shelmet/staryu/croagunk/murkrow
  1351. Aug 27 23:01:35 <iss|afk> for real
  1352. Aug 27 23:01:54 <merp> so
  1353. Aug 27 23:02:04 <merp> who agrees with getting rid of dratini to check things that are an issue
  1354. Aug 27 23:02:05 <KingTorterraXIV> i think we're mixkrow weak again
  1355. Aug 27 23:02:05 <merp> !
  1356. Aug 27 23:02:09 <elevator_music> we're back to the point where im considering dropping murkrow hahahahaha
  1357. Aug 27 23:02:17 <KingTorterraXIV> lol
  1358. Aug 27 23:02:22 <KingTorterraXIV> we are stuck in a loop
  1359. Aug 27 23:02:22 <elevator_music> we cant get rid of dratini 9.9
  1360. Aug 27 23:02:27 <KingTorterraXIV> ^
  1361. Aug 27 23:02:29 <merp> i think we can
  1362. Aug 27 23:02:35 <merp> i always take out the mon i base a team around
  1363. Aug 27 23:02:43 <merp> cause normally thats a weird mon that is the weakest link
  1364. Aug 27 23:02:43 <merp> !
  1365. Aug 27 23:02:47 <elevator_music> we need: something for drilbur
  1366. Aug 27 23:02:54 <KingTorterraXIV> lileep
  1367. Aug 27 23:02:57 <KingTorterraXIV> !
  1368. Aug 27 23:03:22 <elevator_music> we could try scarf porygon??
  1369. Aug 27 23:03:23 <elevator_music> idk
  1370. Aug 27 23:03:28 * CBTerrakion (Mibbit@synIRC-52B50245.sip.sav.bellsouth.net) has left #littlecup
  1371. Aug 27 23:03:37 <KingTorterraXIV> how does that help against drilbur
  1372. Aug 27 23:03:41 <elevator_music> lileep also works but feels weird :( (but also would do nice lol)
  1373. Aug 27 23:03:41 * Ace_Attorney (~Ace_@synIRC-EFAEA8B7.mc.videotron.ca) has left #littlecup
  1374. Aug 27 23:03:47 <Hawkstar> trace sand rush
  1375. Aug 27 23:03:52 <KingTorterraXIV> oh
  1376. Aug 27 23:03:55 <KingTorterraXIV> lol
  1377. Aug 27 23:04:01 <KingTorterraXIV> how much does ice beam do
  1378. Aug 27 23:05:15 <Hawkstar> uhh
  1379. Aug 27 23:05:17 <Hawkstar> a bunch
  1380. Aug 27 23:05:59 <elevator_music> lol ok this is annoying
  1381. Aug 27 23:06:10 <elevator_music> dropping shelmet for lileep also seems like an option
  1382. Aug 27 23:06:15 <KingTorterraXIV> yes
  1383. Aug 27 23:06:22 <Hawkstar> how does that help vs drilbur
  1384. Aug 27 23:06:24 <elevator_music> between croagunk and murkrow we should be fine against fighting-types
  1385. Aug 27 23:06:33 <KingTorterraXIV> well
  1386. Aug 27 23:06:34 <elevator_music> lileep can take a +2 eq with max def
  1387. Aug 27 23:06:37 <merp> drilbur checked by archen :D
  1388. Aug 27 23:06:45 <elevator_music> bs lol
  1389. Aug 27 23:06:47 <Hawkstar> even LO?
  1390. Aug 27 23:06:55 <elevator_music> lo isnt as much of a problem
  1391. Aug 27 23:07:05 <elevator_music> since they dont run protect so croagunk and murkrow can take it on
  1392. Aug 27 23:07:05 <Hawkstar> true
  1393. Aug 27 23:07:39 <elevator_music> ok at this point what beats:
  1394. Aug 27 23:07:49 <elevator_music> dratini/magnemite/lileep/staryu/croagunk/murkrow
  1395. Aug 27 23:07:59 <elevator_music> lol we also dont NEED to run staryu anymore (its cool for dratini though)
  1396. Aug 27 23:08:12 <elevator_music> but if we still need to check something we could just rmove it
  1397. Aug 27 23:08:19 <elevator_music> remove*
  1398. Aug 27 23:08:57 <elevator_music> oh
  1399. Aug 27 23:08:58 <elevator_music> BLAH
  1400. Aug 27 23:08:59 <elevator_music> scraggy
  1401. Aug 27 23:09:05 <elevator_music> thats why we had shelmet ahaha
  1402. Aug 27 23:09:09 <elevator_music> i forgot
  1403. Aug 27 23:09:20 <KingTorterraXIV> yeah :/
  1404. Aug 27 23:09:27 <KingTorterraXIV> put it over staryu
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  1406. Aug 27 23:09:45 <elevator_music> shouldnt run shelmet without a spinner though, it sucks at taking on scraggy that way :s
  1407. Aug 27 23:10:00 <KingTorterraXIV> hmm
  1408. Aug 27 23:10:00 <elevator_music> mienfoo has weird synergy with this team, but it cant hurt to throw in
  1409. Aug 27 23:10:11 <KingTorterraXIV> use scarf mienfoo : D
  1410. Aug 27 23:10:14 <elevator_music> i also dont really like it as a pokemon but we could show smogon pride and go with koffing
  1411. Aug 27 23:10:26 <KingTorterraXIV> we could
  1412. Aug 27 23:10:39 <KingTorterraXIV> how much does a +1 zen headbutt do to "bad gas"
  1413. Aug 27 23:10:40 <merp> lol
  1414. Aug 27 23:10:57 <elevator_music> idk how well it handles zen headbutt scraggy but DOGARS does good against drilbur
  1415. Aug 27 23:11:16 <KingTorterraXIV> unless you know
  1416. Aug 27 23:11:20 <KingTorterraXIV> mold breaker drilbur
  1417. Aug 27 23:11:33 <KingTorterraXIV> but then like
  1418. Aug 27 23:11:35 <elevator_music> mold breaker drilbur isnt the problem though lol
  1419. Aug 27 23:11:37 <KingTorterraXIV> staryu handles it
  1420. Aug 27 23:11:44 <KingTorterraXIV> so whats the team
  1421. Aug 27 23:11:56 <elevator_music> we'd be dropping staryu for mienfoo or koffing lol
  1422. Aug 27 23:12:04 <elevator_music> [23:07:50] <&elevator_music> dratini/magnemite/lileep/staryu/croagunk/murkrow
  1423. Aug 27 23:12:12 <elevator_music> considering options over staryu that help with scraggy
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  1425. Aug 27 23:12:36 <elevator_music> scraggy is such a pain in the dick
  1426. Aug 27 23:12:51 <KingTorterraXIV> thats why i always use scarfkrow
  1427. Aug 27 23:13:03 <elevator_music> if we werent running lileep it actually wouldnt be a problem since otherwise it cant set up on anything else
  1428. Aug 27 23:13:23 <KingTorterraXIV> unless it wants to take alot of damage
  1429. Aug 27 23:14:35 <KingTorterraXIV> lets change murkrow's set
  1430. Aug 27 23:14:49 <KingTorterraXIV> scarfkrow takes care of scraggy problems
  1431. Aug 27 23:15:33 <elevator_music> ok
  1432. Aug 27 23:15:53 <elevator_music> we'll have to be a little more careful around protect drilbur but i think other than that we're pretty set against everything else
  1433. Aug 27 23:15:57 <elevator_music> prem what do you think
  1434. Aug 27 23:16:03 <merp> what is it
  1435. Aug 27 23:16:11 -elevator_music/#littlecup- anyone
  1436. Aug 27 23:16:15 <merp> the tema
  1437. Aug 27 23:16:16 <merp> lol
  1438. Aug 27 23:16:19 <merp> and the change
  1439. Aug 27 23:16:28 <elevator_music> same as before but scarfkrow over subroost
  1440. Aug 27 23:16:36 <merp> probably
  1441. Aug 27 23:16:36 <merp> better
  1442. Aug 27 23:16:38 <elevator_music> dratini/magnemite/lileep/staryu/croagunk/murkrow
  1443. Aug 27 23:16:38 <merp> for the team
  1444. Aug 27 23:16:42 <merp> lol
  1445. Aug 27 23:16:47 <merp> i approev
  1446. Aug 27 23:16:53 <KingTorterraXIV> yes
  1447. Aug 27 23:16:53 <elevator_music> OK
  1448. Aug 27 23:16:59 <elevator_music> are we weak to anything now...
  1449. Aug 27 23:17:01 <KingTorterraXIV> someone finally approves of scarfkrow
  1450. Aug 27 23:17:03 <elevator_music> scraggy, not really
  1451. Aug 27 23:17:12 <KingTorterraXIV> after ive been saying it for like
  1452. Aug 27 23:17:16 <KingTorterraXIV> the past hour
  1453. Aug 27 23:17:17 <elevator_music> drilbur, sort of but we're 'good enough'
  1454. Aug 27 23:17:21 <KingTorterraXIV> *2 hours
  1455. Aug 27 23:17:30 <elevator_music> well it was inferior for the team until now c.c
  1456. Aug 27 23:17:34 <KingTorterraXIV> wait i need to enter all the sets
  1457. Aug 27 23:17:39 <KingTorterraXIV> @.@
  1458. Aug 27 23:17:48 <elevator_music> murkrow, we're fine against
  1459. Aug 27 23:17:54 <elevator_music> mienfoo, set
  1460. Aug 27 23:17:57 <elevator_music> misdreavus, set
  1461. Aug 27 23:18:03 <elevator_music> chinchou, set
  1462. Aug 27 23:18:09 <elevator_music> magnemite, set
  1463. Aug 27 23:18:22 <elevator_music> snover...
  1464. Aug 27 23:18:25 <elevator_music> we should be fine
  1465. Aug 27 23:18:36 <KingTorterraXIV> weah
  1466. Aug 27 23:18:37 <elevator_music> other croagunk will kind of suck lol
  1467. Aug 27 23:18:38 <KingTorterraXIV> *yeah
  1468. Aug 27 23:18:43 <elevator_music> dratini can set up on those though right?
  1469. Aug 27 23:18:47 <KingTorterraXIV> yeah
  1470. Aug 27 23:18:53 <KingTorterraXIV> expecially chinchou
  1471. Aug 27 23:19:03 <KingTorterraXIV> croagunk yes
  1472. Aug 27 23:19:09 <KingTorterraXIV> mienfoo, maybe
  1473. Aug 27 23:19:14 * Tobes is now known as Tobes|bbl
  1474. Aug 27 23:19:28 <elevator_music> bulky grass types (except snover and ferroseed) are screwed against dratini and krow
  1475. Aug 27 23:19:41 <elevator_music> well even ferroseed doesnt like krow and we have croagunk anyways
  1476. Aug 27 23:20:07 <elevator_music> ummm
  1477. Aug 27 23:20:19 <elevator_music> shell smashers will lose to murkrow, right?
  1478. Aug 27 23:20:22 <elevator_music> and lileep probably
  1479. Aug 27 23:20:30 <elevator_music> well not shellder
  1480. Aug 27 23:20:38 <elevator_music> oh we also have fake out croagunk
  1481. Aug 27 23:20:41 * Audiosurfer (Mibbit@811C721B.5A7286DA.540BC7C2.IP) has joined #littlecup
  1482. Aug 27 23:20:46 <elevator_music> yea, so those arent an issue either
  1483. Aug 27 23:20:56 <elevator_music> i think we're good enough against everything?
  1484. Aug 27 23:21:21 <KingTorterraXIV> looks that way
  1485. Aug 27 23:21:34 -elevator_music/#littlecup- is everyone ok with dratini/bulky magnemite/lileep/staryu/croagunk/scarf murkrow?
  1486. Aug 27 23:21:38 <merp> YES I AM
  1487. Aug 27 23:21:46 <elevator_music> ok cool, we're done then
  1488. Aug 27 23:21:56 <merp> obviously my opinion matters the mostt
  1489. Aug 27 23:22:20 <elevator_music> i guess staryu will probably be the poke most likely to go if we need a replacement, BUT i like this lineup most for now
  1490. Aug 27 23:24:20 <KingTorterraXIV> yeah
  1491. Aug 27 23:24:25 <KingTorterraXIV> looks pretty sexy
  1492. Aug 27 23:24:30 <KingTorterraXIV> but i need to go eat
  1493. Aug 27 23:24:36 * elevator_music has changed the topic to: LC Tiering Megathread: http://bit.ly/NbEX6J | when #pokemon isn't busy try to discuss lc there | #littlecup teambuilding sessions: http://bit.ly/ONiURW | toady's teambuilding session is over, the log/synopsis/team will be posted shortly
  1494. Aug 27 23:24:45 <KingTorterraXIV> ok
  1495. Aug 27 23:24:50 <KingTorterraXIV> going to eat
  1496. Aug 27 23:24:53 <KingTorterraXIV> ill be back
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  1504. Aug 27 23:35:38 <KingTorterraXIV> ok baxk
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  1507. Aug 27 23:38:32 <elevator_music> http://pastebin.com/EyuEtLww
  1508. Aug 27 23:38:34 <elevator_music> is this good?
  1509. Aug 27 23:40:32 <KingTorterraXIV> looks goo
  1510. Aug 27 23:40:33 <KingTorterraXIV> d
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  1512. Aug 27 23:40:48 <KingTorterraXIV> ive never seen that spread for staryu before
  1513. Aug 27 23:41:02 <jrrrr> i love that dratini set
  1514. Aug 27 23:41:13 <jrrrr> i never talk here but i had to say that
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  1516. Aug 27 23:42:05 <jrrrr> elevator_music you should rename that Team Gets Destroyed By Snover
  1517. Aug 27 23:42:15 <merp> gunk and shelmet handle it
  1518. Aug 27 23:42:15 <merp> !
  1519. Aug 27 23:42:16 * AGLET (A-G-L-E-T@Dont.Forget.It) has joined #littlecup
  1520. Aug 27 23:42:16 * Cerberus gives channel operator status to AGLET
  1521. Aug 27 23:42:24 <jrrrr> huh?
  1522. Aug 27 23:42:27 <merp> kinda
  1523. Aug 27 23:42:28 <elevator_music> we dont have shelmet lol
  1524. Aug 27 23:42:29 <merp> h
  1525. Aug 27 23:42:30 <merp> wtf
  1526. Aug 27 23:42:33 <elevator_music> do you mean magnemite
  1527. Aug 27 23:42:35 <merp> what did we do with it
  1528. Aug 27 23:42:36 <merp> oh ya that
  1529. Aug 27 23:43:04 <elevator_music> staryu is basically death fodder on this team anyways X:
  1530. Aug 27 23:43:05 <jrrrr> whoa magnet rise
  1531. Aug 27 23:43:09 <jrrrr> thats boss lol
  1532. Aug 27 23:43:19 <merp> staryu is horrible
  1533. Aug 27 23:43:22 <merp> unless its runnin glife orb
  1534. Aug 27 23:43:24 <merp> in which case
  1535. Aug 27 23:43:27 <merp> its fucking great
  1536. Aug 27 23:43:43 <elevator_music> it has good synergy with dratini on this team and there is no replacement that does anything better though heh
  1537. Aug 27 23:44:15 * dubs (alan@great.white.hope) has joined #littlecup
  1538. Aug 27 23:44:15 * Cerberus sets mode +a #littlecup dubs
  1539. Aug 27 23:44:15 * Cerberus gives channel operator status to dubs
  1540. Aug 27 23:44:32 <merp> CHINCHOU
  1541. Aug 27 23:44:35 <merp> SOMETHING BETTER
  1542. Aug 27 23:44:38 <merp> or
  1543. Aug 27 23:44:40 <merp> just use life orb
  1544. Aug 27 23:44:42 <merp> i dont see why not
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  1546. Aug 27 23:44:45 <merp> if its death fodder anyway
  1547. Aug 27 23:44:47 <KingTorterraXIV> lol
  1548. Aug 27 23:44:55 <merp> we dont need it to take a hit
  1549. Aug 27 23:44:57 <merp> we need it to die
  1550. Aug 27 23:45:18 <KingTorterraXIV> we need it to bring in chinchou
  1551. Aug 27 23:45:19 <merp> also lol
  1552. Aug 27 23:45:20 <merp> this team
  1553. Aug 27 23:45:22 <merp> is gonna get RAPED
  1554. Aug 27 23:45:24 <merp> by houndour
  1555. Aug 27 23:45:31 <elevator_music> bs
  1556. Aug 27 23:45:35 <elevator_music> the only thing staryu does well
  1557. Aug 27 23:45:37 <elevator_music> is counter dour
  1558. Aug 27 23:45:38 <elevator_music> lol
  1559. Aug 27 23:45:40 <merp> lol
  1560. Aug 27 23:45:42 <KingTorterraXIV> and gunk helps
  1561. Aug 27 23:45:43 <merp> how does it do it well?
  1562. Aug 27 23:45:49 <merp> switch in on dark pulse
  1563. Aug 27 23:45:52 <elevator_music> its not 2hkoed and has recover.....
  1564. Aug 27 23:45:57 <merp> it is 2hkoed...
  1565. Aug 27 23:45:57 <KingTorterraXIV> ^
  1566. Aug 27 23:46:12 <elevator_music> they usually try to sucker punch
  1567. Aug 27 23:46:14 <merp> lol
  1568. Aug 27 23:46:16 <merp> those people suck
  1569. Aug 27 23:46:26 <elevator_music> you can spam recover until they do OR just ko it
  1570. Aug 27 23:46:28 <elevator_music> -.-
  1571. Aug 27 23:46:39 <merp> nope
  1572. Aug 27 23:46:44 <elevator_music> but its a really safe switchin as far as houndour goes
  1573. Aug 27 23:46:47 <elevator_music> so fuk you lol
  1574. Aug 27 23:46:49 <merp> i guess
  1575. Aug 27 23:46:51 <merp> its the best switch in
  1576. Aug 27 23:46:55 <merp> but still
  1577. Aug 27 23:46:58 <merp> the houndour player can win
  1578. Aug 27 23:47:10 <merp> and if he does
  1579. Aug 27 23:47:11 <elevator_music> can but almost never does unless you suck
  1580. Aug 27 23:47:12 <elevator_music> oh
  1581. Aug 27 23:47:17 <elevator_music> i see the problem now LOL
  1582. Aug 27 23:47:17 <merp> bro
  1583. Aug 27 23:47:23 <merp> you act like
  1584. Aug 27 23:47:25 <merp> i would use the staryu
  1585. Aug 27 23:47:29 <merp> after im bashing it this much
  1586. Aug 27 23:47:29 <merp> lol
  1587. Aug 27 23:47:38 <elevator_music> haha
  1588. Aug 27 23:47:40 <elevator_music> oh well
  1589. Aug 27 23:47:43 <merp> the murkrow
  1590. Aug 27 23:47:51 <elevator_music> ill let blarajan shit all over these decisions when he gets back on
  1591. Aug 27 23:47:51 <elevator_music> but
  1592. Aug 27 23:47:53 <merp> takes like 60% from sucker punch
  1593. Aug 27 23:47:56 <elevator_music> im just gonna post the team now
  1594. Aug 27 23:48:00 <merp> should we save the log
  1595. Aug 27 23:48:00 <merp> lol
  1596. Aug 27 23:48:05 <elevator_music> iss will hopefully send me the lod
  1597. Aug 27 23:48:09 <elevator_music> log*
  1598. Aug 27 23:48:18 <merp> and then with sr brave bird recoil
  1599. Aug 27 23:48:19 <merp> its dead
  1600. Aug 27 23:48:21 <merp> gunk
  1601. Aug 27 23:48:24 <merp> will never come in ever
  1602. Aug 27 23:48:31 <merp> until something is dead
  1603. Aug 27 23:48:36 <merp> in which case houndour does its job
  1604. Aug 27 23:48:37 <elevator_music> whatever dour can only come in like once anyways
  1605. Aug 27 23:48:47 <merp> i bring him in
  1606. Aug 27 23:48:49 <merp> multiple times
  1607. Aug 27 23:49:03 <elevator_music> everything on our team threatens dour except magnemite
  1608. Aug 27 23:49:04 <elevator_music> .-.
  1609. Aug 27 23:49:11 <elevator_music> and I GUESS dratini
  1610. Aug 27 23:49:20 <elevator_music> i wouldnt bring in dour on dratini though
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