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- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- ThePinkPanzer™ - Today at 22:13
- The only two people who had been on my team who hate me afaik are Indy and Mop
- Hates the wrong word
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- I only said that because you and Mop were specifically mentioned for that
- I don't really care either way
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- No but I care when your a dick to people like Buttery and Mop
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- There were reasons, Buttery was also never punished and I encouraged him to remain on the server
- Anyway, what you care about isn't something I factor into my decisions
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- Ofcourse it doesn't
- I just think your mod is a sham and will never release due to your poor management
- as me and many others think
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- Feel free
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- You have a nasty temper and bully people
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- Still curious why you're messaging me.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- Because you've pissed me off in how you've treat my friends
- Especially when I warned them what a dick you are to work for
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- It's funny because the only reason me and you weren't on good terms is because you never did work despite constant assurances then instead of ever talking about it you just left and made me pick up the pieces.
- I'm sorry if I was ever brash with you but let's not pretend like you never deserved it.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- I left because I hated your overbearing attitude
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- I was overbearing because I gave you a trusted role and you proceeded to piss it away.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- I wasn't well and explained why
- I just had enough and left and I'm sorry for that
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- I considered Mop a friend and gave him special rights on the server after he left until he demanded he be removed from the VN shortly before release.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- A Joke VN you harangued Buttery for art for when he had his own issues
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- I considered Buttery a friend and still do, which is why he was never punished for the leak and I let him continue without being able to work into the forseeable future
- Buttery also volunteered to do art and I continually told him when it began he did not have to
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- Yet you continually pushed him for it when he did agree to
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- Yes because I had made the entire thing only after we got an artists and we ended up two weeks from release with none of the art we needed, which would have sent my hours of work to the trash.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- But why waste time on a vn
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- Ask Buttery, he was as instrumental to the idea as me. We had break time before Cornflakes and my team now does more work than I can do, so I had some time to kill.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- Tell me whats the point in a vn featuring developers instead of something more productive
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- You also realize we all still work on the mod in the meantime right.
- The VN is just me and I do it when I'm not modding or relaxing.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- You don't relax
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- If Buttery had at any point said "I'm no longer able to do this art no art from me" I would have found another artist but he held onto it until the end.
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- I'm pretty relaxed right now mang.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- He felt he couldn't because of how you are
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- Then that's on him.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- Thats on you for taking advantage
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- Okay? It's a joke VN for our community, if he wanted out he'd have been out.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- You don't give people an out and you never have
- I doubt your modding capability as you use my work in your april fools diary and it still doesn't have art
- Yet obviously its great to show
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- If I don't give people an out then it's weird I told Buttery he could stay on the team as long as he liked until he was ready to work again because I considered him a friend.
- Your garbage 'work' also now actually has effects, a full event chain by one of our contributors, and we haven't given it art because we have a dozen other trees the artists work on.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- Your garbage work is vaporware
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- You're not on the team, you have no idea what our work is
- Your work amounted to a handful of focus icons mostly ripped from the Mafia wikia and three skeleton trees
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- your a nasty piece of work running a joke mod thats the worst in your shitty modding coop
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- Bruh I think you need to take a breath.
- This is clearly personal for one of us here and it's souring the conversation.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- Your an emotional bully who abuses people
- I've seen the pms you send to people
- I've seen your drunken rants
- Your toxic dude and the sooner you stop modding the better for the community
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- Bruh I'm not sure if you can even consider yourself part of the community no matter how many mods you pretend to be a vital member of.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- pretend
- fuck off
- I contribute to more mods than you can even do for your own
- You can't even do a najd tree for kr
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- I fuck around with my guys, most of them know I'm joking, some don't and leave or tell me and I apologize. Only three have ever had a problem with me, one I still consider a friend, one I considered a friend until an hour ago I suppose, you were just there and drifted off.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- how they laughed when you delivered a piece of shit
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- Yeah man I did drop a broken tree
- Was pretty open about that
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- You dropped a broken mod and not realized it yet(edited)
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- Ended up losing two weeks to my military obligation and another to my foreign trip.
- Slow the typing bro it's giving you problems
- TNO is more than just me you know
- Like, I have stepped back because I recognize I have contributors with better ideas and skills than me
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- TNO is your shitty project that can't even have focus trees because no one codes them
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- I hardly see myself as the magnum opus of modding.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- It's all smoke and mirrors
- It doesn't work
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- But... people do code them, that's why I have 40+ coders
- Yeah it doesn't work man, that's why it's not released
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- You have fuck all and I've seen what you have
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- If the mod worked then it'd be out.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- It won't ever be released
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- You got removed from the team months ago, I'd have been really amazed if it worked then.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- I'm amazed people still listen to you I really do
- All the people you started with fucked off
- All your trees are skeletons except two
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- Uh
- No we have around five pretty fleshed out ones now.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- I know this from people who work on your own mod
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- Actually as of this week, every nation has now gotten decent progress on the tree.
- Then you're clearly pretty misinformed.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- Your delusional and always have been
- I stopped working on TNO around the time I realized it was never going to happen
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- Dude I'm a 20 year old Marine who does this for fun, I have no grandiose ideas about what my team is or will do
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- You're a 20 year old dick who can't run a bath yet alone a team
- and I get bored of you abusing people in pms
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- My team right now does a lot of work which I appreciate, they do so much work I often struggle to find ways to be useful to them, I consider myself pretty beholden to them. They do most of the work, I only had to find a good team and luckily I lost one or two layabouts who didn't work. Namely you.
- And if this is bored I'm pretty impressed man.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- You only have a team because of me,was my idea to post my work in the kr discord and get people to join
- I only joined because you suggested it after not doing my fucking legation cities events
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- I've thanked you the team, thanked you less when you never stopped bringing it up, but you had my thanks for that in the past.
- I also don't see how that's relevant.
- How the team formed hardly factors into the present conversation
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- No it doesn't
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- You also gloated that most of that team is gone... but team members have grown and remain strong, so I guess that previous point is moot too.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- "Right so I'm going tonight for the next few days and report day and purge day is coming up.
- 1. Felt I should let you all know now that there isn't a list. I meant it as a joke and decided to let it ride for a bit, but I don't want any of you panicking or actually feeling stressed. It's a mod and we're all here to enjoy a hobby. The 'list' was me reconsidering where I've positioned people on the team based on trees, and the push for trees by Sunday is just me making sure all of you aren't afraid to figure out how to make these so we can get started on trees.
- 2. If any of you ever feel like I'm abrasive or singling you out personally (besides Kracc) then please feel free to PM me. I like to fuck around, it's a natural part of who I am, mostly thanks to my military service where humor is fucking with the guy next to you. I consider all of you friends, but if anyone ever feels like I am just being a dick to them without cause then please message me and I'll shut it down.
- Happy modding. Get your fucking reports in tomorrow."
- Nice announcement
- doesn't change that fact your a dick though
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- Figured you had a point and some people might not get my humor
- And alright man good of you to think
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- Oh and they are sending the mod to me
- which I am then going to post for all to enjoy on 4chan
- and see how little shit you've done
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- Please feel free
- I mean it sorta proves that Kaiserreich thing doesn't it
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- I don't have access to kaiserreich files
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- Yeah but you did leak them forever ago
- Why they wanted you off the team
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- I've never leaked from KR
- only their toxic internal communications
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- Not what I heard, but whatever you say man.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- I won't leak your mod and thats a threat in temper
- I apologize for that
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- Uhuh
- Maybe you should go drink some water or something if you're on that much of a hair trigger
- Especially since I've been pretty fair in this conversation
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- Calling my work copy paste shit isn't fair
- Using art as a source is nothing wrong
- ThePinkPanzer - 04/05/2018
- I only really started coming down on you after you blatantly began insulting me and my mod
- I wouldn't bring out a few insults if I felt like you were trying to do anything more than be a prick
- If that was your goal then you more then succeeded.
- Indyclone77 - 04/05/2018
- I'm dropping this as it's causing issues with people who have nothing to do with this
- Goodbye
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