PHNX | Arcanus: Hey fellas, I'm an old friend of Kowz, don't come on here much, but he suggested I do this
[2:44 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: I'm giving buildcrafting a shot, starting it now and should be done before the next league
[2:44 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: It's barely past the concept stage rn but here's the thread
[2:44 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2256135
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[2:44 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Any feedback would be much appreciated!
[3:20 PM] Linaxx: @PHNX | Arcanus right off the bat
[3:20 PM] Linaxx: in the offense you say you're okay with doing ele damage with avatar of the veil
[3:20 PM] Linaxx: and you're wanting to go pure phys
[3:20 PM] Linaxx: so just use a phys conversion
[3:21 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: :naruhodo:
[3:21 PM] Linaxx: lightning for shock = more damage, fire for ignite = damage over time, cold for slows/freezes which make it so porcupines don't blow up and no bodies for detonate dead
[3:21 PM] Linaxx: there are plenty of ways to achieve this using hatred, anger etc
[3:21 PM] Linaxx: or items/uniques/flasks
[3:22 PM] Linaxx: at level 20 hatred converts 36% of phys damage as extra cold
[3:23 PM] Linaxx: that way you can focus on pure phys
[3:23 PM] Linaxx: and get your ele damage conversions from other things, like gems etc
[3:24 PM] Linaxx: that way your avatar of the veil is using the phys conversion to cold as the extra ele damage
[3:25 PM] Linaxx: aka you get 40% more of that 36% conversion
[3:25 PM] Linaxx: @PHNX | Arcanus does that make sense?
[3:28 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Hella
[3:29 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Was already thinking of running lightning dmg
[3:31 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: How should I handle crit then?  I was planning on running nocrit phys
[3:31 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Not sure if there are options for converting damage there
[3:33 PM] Linaxx: there are
[3:34 PM] Linaxx: you can use physical to lightning support
[3:34 PM] Linaxx: where 50% of phys damage is converter to lightning and you gain 10-29% physical as extra lightning damage
[3:35 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Right but doesn't shock only proc on crit?
[3:35 PM] Linaxx: and with quality you get 0.5%
[3:35 PM] Linaxx: extra of both
[3:35 PM] Linaxx: "ou can also gain chance to shock via gear or the passive skill tree. By default, only lightning damage is able to inflict shock, but certain equipment such as The Three Dragons can change which damage types are able to inflict shock. Additionally, shocked ground inflicts shock without dealing damage."
[3:36 PM] Linaxx: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Three_Dragons
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The Three Dragons
The Three DragonsGolden MaskQuality: +20%Evasion: 115Energy Shield: 22Requires Level 35, 40 Dex, 40 Int+(26-30)% to all Elemental ResistancesYour Fire Damage can Shock but not IgniteYour Cold Damage can Ignite but not Freeze or ChillYour Lightning Damage can Freeze but not Sh...

[3:36 PM] Linaxx: you could use lightning damage to freeze instead of shock
[3:36 PM] Linaxx: or fire to shock
[3:36 PM] Linaxx: or cold to ignite with this item
[3:38 PM] Linaxx: critical strikes are just a 100% chance of shock
[3:39 PM] Linaxx: so you could just conductivity and some skill tree passives for a % shock chance
[3:39 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: I checked my passive tree, shock nodes are waaaaaaaaaaaay outta the way
[3:39 PM] Linaxx: if you use innervate support skill and a curse on hit set up with conductivity
[3:40 PM] Linaxx: you could get a 34% chance to shock
[3:40 PM] Linaxx: you could also chuck in ele prolif
[3:40 PM] Linaxx: for an extra 20%
[3:40 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Hmmm
[3:40 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: I like where this is going
[3:41 PM] Linaxx: that way you can go full phys with lightning conversion and using all of the above you have a 54% chance to shock
[3:41 PM] Linaxx: with any hit
[3:41 PM] Linaxx: not just a crit
[3:41 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Thanks for the suggestion, I'mma look into that more
[3:42 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: You'd be doing me a huge solid if you copied/pasted this info to a reply on the thread
[3:42 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: That way all the info is centralized
[3:43 PM] Linaxx: mmk
[3:43 PM] Linaxx: also
[3:43 PM] Linaxx: if you want to go full lightning conversion
[3:43 PM] Linaxx: there is a way to get practically 100% to lightning
[3:43 PM] Linaxx: using a vessel of vinktar flask and a watchers eye that has 25-40% of phys converted to lightning while affected by the wrath aura
[3:44 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: The eye sounds hella expensive
[3:44 PM] Linaxx: it can be yes
[3:45 PM] Linaxx: but even without it
[3:45 PM] Linaxx: you can use stormcharger boots for 30%
[3:45 PM] Linaxx: phys to lightning support gem for 50
[3:45 PM] Linaxx: and vessel of vinktar for 20
[3:45 PM] Linaxx: and boom there's 100%
[3:46 PM] Linaxx: stormcharger boots also have 15-25% increased effect of shock and 50% increased shock duration
[3:46 PM] Linaxx: and vessel has 20% of lightning damage leeched as life
[3:46 PM] Linaxx: so your leech would be insane if you had high phys to convert to lightning
[3:46 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Prolly gonna be running darkray vectors for boots
[3:47 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: +move speed per FC
[3:48 PM] Linaxx: well you're starting out ranger
[3:48 PM] Linaxx: don't really need the extra ms from frenzy
[3:48 PM] Linaxx: just use quicksilver and the ms from boots/passives
[3:48 PM] Linaxx: you'll still be plenty fast. and bow skills have really good movement skills
[3:48 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: that and it's +1 to max FC
[3:48 PM] Linaxx: you can easily get more fc with passives
[3:49 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: I already have all 3 nodes on the grid
[3:49 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: :LUL:
[3:49 PM] Linaxx: i'd rather have +1 fc from nodes
[3:49 PM] Linaxx: and keep the duration
[3:49 PM] Linaxx: than take the duration hit from darkrays
[3:49 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: I feel like all the bonuses I'm netting to duration justifies
[3:49 PM] Linaxx: but in the end it's up to you. i'm just giving you suggestions on phys to lightning
[3:49 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: rn I have double duration
[3:49 PM] Linaxx: take it as you will
[3:50 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: so 40% off of that is manageable
[3:50 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: but again thanks super super much for the tips
[3:50 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Imma look into lightning conversion
[4:27 PM] Eagle3o: Curious why youre against crit?
[4:32 PM] Eagle3o: Going raider, you honestly dont need much duration for FCs
[4:33 PM] Eagle3o: 210% life is a little overkill for life on a raider bow build if youre not going HC
[4:34 PM] Eagle3o: lioneyes is an option to pick up the juicy claw nodes
[4:37 PM] Eagle3o: crit would honestly just make your life easier
[4:45 PM] Eagle3o: blast rain is an option for single target
[4:45 PM] Eagle3o: honestly, you dont need frenzy in any kind of setup as a raider
[4:45 PM] Eagle3o: the curse totem just sounds clunky to me
[4:48 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: I mostly wanted to try the new support gem, seemed like it wouldn't be too bad a fit
[4:48 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: As for crits, honestly no specific reason, I guess I just wanted to keep things as simple as I could
[4:48 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Went for 210 since I'm bad
[4:49 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Blast rain sounds sick for ST
[4:49 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Elaborate more on the "you don't need frenzy"
[4:49 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: You mean the skill?
[4:49 PM] Eagle3o: yea
[4:50 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Yeah I hella didn't wanna use that
[4:50 PM] Eagle3o: not necessary for raider
[4:50 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: I ran it once before to manage FC gen
[4:50 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: It was super klunky
[4:50 PM] Eagle3o: if you wanted to be hipster could do mirror arrow CoH
[4:51 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: So you think the 20% from the first node is enough to keep charges up?
[4:51 PM] Eagle3o: yea
[4:51 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: :thumbsup:
[4:51 PM] Eagle3o: odds are youre gonna have blood rage
[4:51 PM] Linaxx: ^
[4:51 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Riiiiight
[4:51 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Forgot about blood rage
[4:51 PM] Eagle3o: and on bosses, you should have enough attack speed for you to generate em fast enough
[4:52 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Thanks again for the help this is super good info
[4:53 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Would I be able to combo blast rain with Linaxx's suggestion for lightning conversion?
[4:54 PM] Eagle3o: converting is the way to go to start with
[4:54 PM] Eagle3o: full phys to light tho
[4:54 PM] Eagle3o: mmmmmmm
[4:54 PM] Eagle3o: thats a phys to light gem and watchers eye minimum
[4:56 PM] Eagle3o: like if you wanted to full convert to light
[4:56 PM] Eagle3o: why not just lightening arrow :/
[4:56 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: I've always wanted to do split arrow
[4:57 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: It was my favorite skill when I started, so I'm sticking to that at least
[4:57 PM] Eagle3o: also havin some cold conversion is just nice for HoI shatters
[4:58 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: The only build I ever found that used SA used a combo that got nerfed the next patch
[4:58 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: And it recommended a headhunter
[4:58 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Lmao
[4:58 PM] Eagle3o: what combo?
[4:58 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Drillneck + this one bow
[4:58 PM] Eagle3o: ik what youre talkin about
[4:58 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Stacking Pierce chance to max
[4:59 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: I'll throw this out there is fork viable at all
[4:59 PM] Eagle3o: infractem
[4:59 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Yep that's the one
[4:59 PM] Eagle3o: used to have a build with that
[4:59 PM] Eagle3o: was fun
[4:59 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Very fun
[5:00 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: The build sucked tho, every single item needed god tier corruptions/enchants
[5:00 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Nearly at least
[5:01 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: So fork tho
[5:01 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: I feel like pierce is just better
[5:01 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: But I love the mechanics of fork
[5:05 PM] Eagle3o: its fun, but pierce nets you more damage
[5:05 PM] Eagle3o: honestly, i think cold would be better, shatters everywhere
[5:09 PM] Eagle3o: this is a total shitshow of links but something like SA, ice bite, wed, mirage, added cold, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[5:09 PM] Eagle3o: hypo? or shit throw in the new chill support gem for shits n giggles
[5:09 PM] Eagle3o: grab yourself a good ol dex scaling bow
[5:10 PM] Eagle3o: lol
[5:10 PM] Linaxx: use a hrimsorrow
[5:10 PM] Linaxx: and taste of hate
[5:10 PM] Linaxx: ez
[5:10 PM] Linaxx: OR
[5:10 PM] Linaxx: the reason i picked lightning was it was light or chaos he wanted in his offense section
[5:10 PM] Eagle3o: lmao hyrris ire
[5:11 PM] Linaxx: but he could use three dragons
[5:11 PM] Linaxx: with light conversion
[5:11 PM] Linaxx: for shatters
[5:11 PM] Eagle3o: astramentis
[5:11 PM] Linaxx: but he wants darkrays
[5:11 PM] Linaxx: so cold conversion
[5:11 PM] Eagle3o: yeaaaaa
[5:11 PM] Linaxx: would be better
[5:11 PM] Linaxx: hrimsorrow for 50%
[5:11 PM] Linaxx: taste of hate
[5:11 PM] Linaxx: plus the cold support gems
[5:11 PM] Linaxx: easy 100%
[5:12 PM] Eagle3o: taste of hate doesnt convert
[5:12 PM] Linaxx: ah right it's just extra
[5:12 PM] Linaxx: i think both would be good tbh
[5:13 PM] Linaxx: phys to lightning and use three dragons for shatters
[5:13 PM] Linaxx: or just go full cold
[5:13 PM] Eagle3o: hrimsorrow, hyrris ire, dex scaling bow, taste of hate
[5:13 PM] Eagle3o: balls out cold
[5:13 PM] Eagle3o: that actually sounds fun
[5:14 PM] Linaxx: right but he could use innervate, ele prolif, vinktars and phys to lightning
[5:14 PM] Linaxx: and conductivity
[5:14 PM] Linaxx: for that fat shock % chance without going crit
[5:14 PM] Linaxx: and have hella lightning conversion
[5:14 PM] Eagle3o: hyrris ire also got a massive fuckin buff
[5:15 PM] Eagle3o: Hyrri's Ire now adds (173-188) to (240-262) (up from (50-60) to (70-80)) cold damage to attacks with bows.
[5:15 PM] Linaxx: i mean he could use that yeah, but it's not phys conversion it's just straight cold
[5:16 PM] Eagle3o: yes
[5:16 PM] Linaxx: or
[5:16 PM] Linaxx: he could be super interesting
[5:16 PM] Linaxx: and go lightning conversion
[5:16 PM] Linaxx: but use a call of the brotherhood
[5:17 PM] Eagle3o: shock and shatter
[5:17 PM] Eagle3o: hmm
[5:17 PM] Linaxx: that would be satisfying af
[5:17 PM] Linaxx: tbh
[5:17 PM] Eagle3o: only problem is
[5:18 PM] Eagle3o: its "your spells have 100% chance to shock frozen enemies"
[5:18 PM] Eagle3o: so yea youre gettin the conversion, but
[5:19 PM] Eagle3o: this is gettin off the rails
[5:19 PM] Eagle3o: were 5 builds past his original idea
[5:19 PM] Linaxx: lmao
[5:19 PM] Linaxx: it's interesting though
[5:19 PM] Linaxx: is mirage archer considered an attack or spell
[5:19 PM] Linaxx: attack
[5:19 PM] Linaxx: rip
[5:19 PM] Eagle3o: I dont like the full light conversion
[5:20 PM] Eagle3o: he can also split his conversion
[5:20 PM] Eagle3o: but full light
[5:20 PM] Linaxx: i like it because with vinktar he has 20% lightning leech
[5:20 PM] Eagle3o: its just a self imposed gimping
[5:20 PM] Eagle3o: since he doesnt want to do LA
[5:20 PM] Linaxx: and it's not hard to convert
[5:20 PM] Eagle3o: 50/50 conversion
[5:20 PM] Eagle3o: cold/light
[5:21 PM] Linaxx: i mean that would be easy
[5:21 PM] Eagle3o: yea
[5:21 PM] Linaxx: hrimsorrow and phys to lightning support
[5:21 PM] Eagle3o: would be easy to scale generic ailment too
[5:22 PM] Linaxx: true
[5:22 PM] Linaxx: would he want to use brotherhood for that though
[5:22 PM] Linaxx: prolly not
[5:22 PM] Linaxx: not unless he uses a vinktars
[5:22 PM] Eagle3o: vinktars pen or added
[5:23 PM] Linaxx: i think vinktars would be nice though
[5:23 PM] Linaxx: and use call
[5:23 PM] Eagle3o: mm
[5:23 PM] Linaxx: and the vinktars he wants isn't expensive
[5:23 PM] Linaxx: the one that adds flat lightning is
[5:23 PM] Eagle3o: he wouldnt do conversion vinks tho
[5:23 PM] Eagle3o: if hes doin 50/50
[5:23 PM] Linaxx: he could use saeumus' gift
[5:24 PM] Linaxx: i mean he could use conversion vinks
[5:24 PM] Linaxx: if he was using call of the brotherhood
[5:24 PM] Eagle3o: hes already at 100% conversion with hrim and phys to light
[5:24 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: I walk away for 5 minutes
[5:24 PM] Linaxx: ah yeah you're right.
[5:24 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Damn y'all hahaha
[5:25 PM] Linaxx: the conversion vink would still be nice for leech though
[5:25 PM] Eagle3o: and call is just light to cold, which defeats the purpose
[5:25 PM] Linaxx: actually no he could just get atziris
[5:25 PM] Eagle3o: id say added honestly
[5:25 PM] Eagle3o: it all has the leech
[5:25 PM] Eagle3o: he has free reign to do taste atziris and vinks
[5:25 PM] Linaxx: ye
[5:26 PM] Eagle3o: yea arcanus, feel free to scroll up for an extra 8 build ideas
[5:26 PM] Linaxx: i think the 50/50 would work better too
[5:26 PM] Linaxx: with vinks and taste and atziri
[5:27 PM] Linaxx: god damn think of all that damage and leech
[5:27 PM] Eagle3o: then get a pen watchers eye
[5:27 PM] Eagle3o: its a semi self gimp
[5:27 PM] Eagle3o: since youd only pen half your damage
[5:27 PM] Eagle3o: but theres plenty of generic ele pen on the tree
[5:28 PM] Eagle3o: primevil force
[5:28 PM] Eagle3o: and whats the other one
[5:28 PM] Eagle3o: forces of nature
[5:28 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Lmaooooo
[5:28 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Y'all are crazy haha
[5:28 PM] Eagle3o: grab a lioneyes for dem juicy claw nodes, theres your sustain
[5:29 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: How come lioneyes works with claw nodes?
[5:29 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: You've mentioned it a couple times
[5:29 PM] Linaxx: he could use lightpacher with that set up too
[5:29 PM] Linaxx: poacher *
[5:29 PM] Eagle3o: lioneyes fall
[5:29 PM] Eagle3o: jewel
[5:29 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Right
[5:29 PM] Eagle3o: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Lioneye%27s_Fall
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[5:29 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Was thinking Lioneyes Reach
[5:29 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: I think
[5:30 PM] Linaxx: plus the new crafting changes with phys bows would be sick for his build
[5:30 PM] Eagle3o: true
[5:30 PM] Linaxx: what quiver though?
[5:31 PM] Linaxx: prolly just drill huh
[5:31 PM] Eagle3o: hm
[5:31 PM] Linaxx: or he could go new voidfletcher
[5:31 PM] Eagle3o: true
[5:31 PM] Eagle3o: that would be interesting
[5:31 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Speeeeeeaking of which
[5:32 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: If y'all wanted to brainstorm chaos damage I'm all ears
[5:32 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Haha
[5:32 PM] Linaxx: chaos is a niche kinda thing in poe rn
[5:32 PM] Eagle3o: if youre gonna brainstorm chaos, just do scourge/ta
[5:32 PM] Linaxx: there's only a few things you can do to go chaos
[5:32 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: I figured linaxx
[5:32 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: I'm actually running a CA raider this league
[5:33 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: So I'll prolly get it out of my system there
[5:33 PM] Linaxx: honestly the void fletcher
[5:33 PM] Linaxx: would be sick
[5:33 PM] Linaxx: it's like a drill with cold, proj speed and void shot
[5:33 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Is the voltaxic rift any good?
[5:33 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: I love it on concept, no idea how to implement
[5:33 PM] Eagle3o: nope
[5:33 PM] Linaxx: it used to be amazing
[5:33 PM] Linaxx: they nerfed the fuck outta it
[5:34 PM] Eagle3o: its garbo
[5:34 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Rip a Dee Doo dah
[5:34 PM] Eagle3o: used to be t1 unique
[5:34 PM] Eagle3o: just like shavs
[5:34 PM] Eagle3o: and deaths hand
[5:34 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Dang
[5:34 PM] Eagle3o: and soul taker
[5:34 PM] Linaxx: to make voltaxic work
[5:34 PM] Linaxx: you'd gimp yourself
[5:34 PM] PHNX | Arcanus: Like I already am with SA :Kappa~2:
[5:34 PM] Linaxx: you'd have to go full lightning conversion and then convert some of that to chaos
[5:35 PM] Linaxx: and you'd need big dick items to make it semi work
[5:35 PM] Linaxx: because the bow has no phys
[5:36 PM] Linaxx: well anyways, i think we brain stormed most of your build ideas with that direction
[5:36 PM] Linaxx: lol
[5:37 PM] Linaxx: i got off work tomorrow and the weekend for poe tho
[5:37 PM] Linaxx: so hype
[5:38 PM] Eagle3o: we brainstormed build ideas he didnt know he wanted