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  1. FSE June 18, 2019
  2. Gay winds up FSE, and Norton loses control of group
  3.  
  4. [2019/06/18 03:47:33] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) Well
  5. [2019/06/18 03:47:42] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) i think i found the problem
  6. [2019/06/18 03:47:43] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) http://51.38.85.26:8025
  7. [2019/06/18 03:47:43] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) wont load
  8. [2019/06/18 03:48:03] Jodi Nikolaidis: did you click the Listen tab on that page?
  9. [2019/06/18 03:48:09] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) yep it wont load on my end rather
  10. [2019/06/18 03:48:27] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) let me try vlc
  11. [2019/06/18 03:49:24] Jodi Nikolaidis: http://prntscr.com/o3bvx1
  12. [2019/06/18 03:49:40] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) it does play though vlc fine on my end
  13. [2019/06/18 03:50:06] Doc Carling: (FS64 6.0.2f) Works for me also.
  14. [2019/06/18 03:50:34] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) it must be lag then :)
  15. [2019/06/18 03:50:35] Albert Dionysus: (FS64 6.0.2f os) here too with VLC
  16. [2019/06/18 03:50:46] MissHarkness: from there end?
  17. [2019/06/18 03:50:51] MissHarkness: cause it cant be mine
  18. [2019/06/18 03:50:53] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) yes
  19. [2019/06/18 03:50:59] MissHarkness: i even closed down discord
  20. [2019/06/18 03:50:59] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) there end
  21. [2019/06/18 03:51:09] Gay Faulkes: I get server not responding on that link, Safari and VLC
  22. [2019/06/18 03:51:10] MissHarkness: currently at 99.7 MBPS
  23. [2019/06/18 03:51:28] Gay Faulkes: your line speed has nothing to do with it.
  24. [2019/06/18 03:51:39] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) gray try opening up vlc on its own
  25. [2019/06/18 03:51:47] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) then pasting it in
  26. [2019/06/18 03:51:59] Gay Faulkes: it almost never does for SL, so long as you can push/pull a couple of mbps or so, it's good enough
  27. [2019/06/18 03:52:19] MissHarkness: its not even working in default sl
  28. [2019/06/18 03:52:27] Albert Dionysus: (FS64 6.0.2f os) maybe restart internet?
  29. [2019/06/18 03:52:29] Jodi Nikolaidis: stream is ok for me inworld . in Fifefox , and Safari .
  30. [2019/06/18 03:52:38] Gay Faulkes: stream is dodgy - forget it & try again tomorrow
  31. [2019/06/18 03:52:46] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) yeah reboot your net kaylah
  32. [2019/06/18 03:53:25] MissHarkness: could be we passed maximum users
  33. [2019/06/18 03:53:45] Jodi Nikolaidis: max 200 users 7 used.. Stream is fine.
  34. [2019/06/18 03:53:59] MissHarkness: then how come i can hear audio at my home land
  35. [2019/06/18 03:54:09] MissHarkness: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Ceneselli/40/108/1376
  36. [2019/06/18 03:54:57] MissHarkness: i can load up sl on my dedicated rack thats in a data center and try to see it plays on a 50 megabyte a second connection XD
  37. [2019/06/18 03:56:29] Gay Faulkes: [03:51] Gay Faulkes: your line speed has nothing to do with it.
  38. [2019/06/18 03:56:44] MissHarkness: well it can't be my net then
  39. [2019/06/18 03:56:57] Albert Dionysus: (FS64 6.0.2f os) I f you restarted...
  40. [2019/06/18 03:57:09] Gay Faulkes: However, this is more worrying - [03:40] Kaylah Hollows Darkfury (MissHarkness): (FS64 6.0.2f) Packets Lost: 324/55,016 (0.6%)
  41. [2019/06/18 03:57:29] Gay Faulkes: but I still don't think that's the root of the issue. I think the stream is bad.
  42. [2019/06/18 03:57:45] MissHarkness: I have rebooted twice, rebooted firestorm thrice. rebooted default view twice, my network is fine
  43. [2019/06/18 03:58:05] MissHarkness: the packet loss is simple due to connection wavering cause i have to use a rather long ethernet cable
  44. [2019/06/18 03:58:43] MissHarkness: Rebooting modem is last resort
  45. [2019/06/18 03:59:20] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) rebooting something fixes 99% of problems
  46. [2019/06/18 03:59:47] Gay Faulkes: ethernet is good to 100m cat6
  47. [2019/06/18 03:59:48] MissHarkness: I rebooted my pc twice
  48. [2019/06/18 03:59:57] MissHarkness: i am using an older cat5
  49. [2019/06/18 04:00:03] Gay Faulkes: then 30m
  50. [2019/06/18 04:00:09] MissHarkness: Yes
  51. [2019/06/18 04:00:13] MissHarkness: i am over 30 m
  52. [2019/06/18 04:00:23] Sans Sheryffe: (FS64 6.0.2l os) in that time you rebooted pc twice couldve rebooted modem once :D
  53. [2019/06/18 04:00:24] Gay Faulkes: so put a switch in the middle
  54. [2019/06/18 04:00:44] Gay Faulkes: 10 bucks these days for a cheapo 100baseT switch
  55. [2019/06/18 04:00:54] MissHarkness: my family is currently trying to tell other family on facebook thata relative has passed away i cant interupt that
  56. [2019/06/18 04:02:05] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) are you all on the internet at the same time
  57. [2019/06/18 04:02:30] MissHarkness: ive had bigger loads
  58. [2019/06/18 04:02:32] MissHarkness: Not usually its just tonight there using the wife for facebook messenger and its only two people
  59. [2019/06/18 04:02:38] Gay Faulkes: I give up anyway - everything enyone says, you've got an excuse for.
  60. [2019/06/18 04:02:53] MissHarkness: i will restart
  61. [2019/06/18 04:02:55] MissHarkness: >.>
  62. [2019/06/18 04:02:58] MissHarkness: if it dont work
  63. [2019/06/18 04:03:27] Albert Dionysus: (FS64 6.0.2f os) You won't have music for the funerals
  64. [2019/06/18 04:03:47] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) sighs
  65. [2019/06/18 04:04:33] Doc Carling: (FS64 6.0.2f) See what happens if you reveal private informations.....
  66. [2019/06/18 04:06:40] Gay Faulkes: you realise how little anyone else cares? :P
  67. [2019/06/18 04:08:29] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) No Change >.>
  68. [2019/06/18 04:09:10] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) Turned it off..
  69. [2019/06/18 04:09:12] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) Waited
  70. [2019/06/18 04:09:15] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) Turned it back on
  71. [2019/06/18 04:09:19] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) Zip
  72. [2019/06/18 04:09:36] Albert Dionysus: (FS64 6.0.2f os) Could this be a blocked or blacklisted thing?
  73. [2019/06/18 04:09:39] Gay Faulkes: turned what off?
  74. [2019/06/18 04:09:45] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) The Router/Modem
  75. [2019/06/18 04:10:00] Doc Carling: (FS64 6.0.2f) What do you get, when you try to load the stream page in your web browers? A blank page? Or any error message?
  76. [2019/06/18 04:10:20] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) It tries to connect but usually doesnt
  77. [2019/06/18 04:10:29] Doc Carling: (FS64 6.0.2f) What means that?
  78. [2019/06/18 04:10:34] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) i would have thought so albert but
  79. [2019/06/18 04:10:37] Doc Carling: (FS64 6.0.2f) What is to see on the screen?
  80. [2019/06/18 04:10:38] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) but i have nothing blocked
  81. [2019/06/18 04:11:05] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) Going to see if it could be windows defender
  82. [2019/06/18 04:11:12] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) wouldn't surprise me
  83. [2019/06/18 04:11:20] Doc Carling: (FS64 6.0.2f) Well, I give it up too. lol
  84. [2019/06/18 04:11:47] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) now you can't say im making excuses cause i restarted the **** modem,
  85. [2019/06/18 04:12:00] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) Packets Lost: 18/14,443 (0.1%)
  86. [2019/06/18 04:12:29] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) try reading though this kaylah https://wiki.phoenixviewer.com/fs_media
  87. [2019/06/18 04:12:46] Albert Dionysus: (FS64 6.0.2f os) have you seen that asset blacklist and blocklist are two different lists?
  88. [2019/06/18 04:13:26] Jodi Nikolaidis: neither of those are at all relevant in this situation Albert.
  89. [2019/06/18 04:13:34] Albert Dionysus: (FS64 6.0.2f os) ok
  90. [2019/06/18 04:13:34] Gay Faulkes: it's a non-standard port, so it's probably firewall... though if you'd actually read the media page rather than spend 40 minutes arguing, you'd have established that by now
  91. [2019/06/18 04:13:48] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) i did read it
  92. [2019/06/18 04:13:58] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) i do not have a firewall currently active
  93. [2019/06/18 04:14:07] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) unless one of my dickheaded family members did :P
  94. [2019/06/18 04:14:10] RajeshKA: I have tried all tips given in https://wiki.firestormviewer.org/fs_very_laggy but there is no visible improvement.
  95. [2019/06/18 04:15:15] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) nope
  96. [2019/06/18 04:15:20] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) no firewalls enabled
  97. [2019/06/18 04:15:44] dizzyditz: (FS64 6.0.2v) Way of topic but does anyone know the Win 10 keystrokes for put PC to sleep???
  98. [2019/06/18 04:16:19] Gay Faulkes: then it will be the botnets running on all your machines. No firewall == completely open to any & all abuse.
  99. [2019/06/18 04:16:35] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) Here we go >.>
  100. [2019/06/18 04:17:01] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) if your not stupid with what you use on the internet and have a good dedicated browser setup to avoid malicious content your okay
  101. [2019/06/18 04:17:13] Gay Faulkes: Are you now going to come up with some implausible 'reason' why not having any firewall is 'safe' because you 'take care' ?
  102. [2019/06/18 04:17:25] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) Browser is only used for Youtube / Facebook / And my clans gaming website.. that i designed >.>
  103. [2019/06/18 04:17:53] Gay Faulkes: That truly is moronic..
  104. [2019/06/18 04:18:04] Gay Faulkes: & I'm out before I really start shouting.
  105. [2019/06/18 04:18:06] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) Firewalls are programs invented with security holes to allow hackers in, ive seen it time after time
  106. [2019/06/18 04:18:09] Albert Dionysus: (FS64 6.0.2f os) It's even worst not to have a firewall than not to have an antivirus.
  107. [2019/06/18 04:18:18] Doc Carling: (FS64 6.0.2f) lol, Gay.
  108. [2019/06/18 04:18:19] dizzyditz: (FS64 6.0.2v) giggles be nice and count to 10
  109. [2019/06/18 04:18:29] Sans Sheryffe: (FS64 6.0.2l os) "door locks are mechanisms that can be opened by people with skill and tools" :D
  110. [2019/06/18 04:18:31] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) only if you are a moron, and go on heaps of suspicious websites
  111. [2019/06/18 04:19:12] Gay Faulkes: /me bangs her face repeatedly into her keyboard at the stupidity being demonstrated.
  112. [2019/06/18 04:19:32] dizzyditz: (FS64 6.0.2v) have a cup of coffee Gay smiles
  113. [2019/06/18 04:19:48] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) Facebook, youtube, and my own website is all i access, all downloads are from steam or netflix.. and those are scanned before hand with by myself before installing by kommodo
  114. [2019/06/18 04:20:00] Patchouli Woollahra: (FS64 6.0.2f) could we not tease the Faulks, people. they work hard.
  115. [2019/06/18 04:20:26] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) you people have had "you NEED virus protection burned into you"
  116. [2019/06/18 04:20:55] Gay Faulkes: Please stop digging this hole deeper. If you don't understand how this all works, please endeavour to learn rather than 'think you're safe'.
  117. [2019/06/18 04:20:56] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) do you know microsoft secretly left backdoors in the windows defender architecture so the NSA can spy on you?.
  118. [2019/06/18 04:20:58] Panda7111: /me (FS64 6.0.2l os) hugs Gay
  119. [2019/06/18 04:21:17] Gay Faulkes: ahhh... I have spare foil hats too, if anyone needs one
  120. [2019/06/18 04:21:19] Sans Sheryffe: (FS64 6.0.2l os) of course.. you know that someone doesnt need to grab your IP address from a website visit to be able to target it, right? ^^
  121. [2019/06/18 04:21:27] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) Of course.
  122. [2019/06/18 04:21:32] Panda7111: (FS64 6.0.2l os) I do!
  123. [2019/06/18 04:21:38] Sans Sheryffe: (FS64 6.0.2l os) theyll just target whole blocks of addresses, one of which might be your unprotected one ;)
  124. [2019/06/18 04:21:43] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) You have RAT's , Keyloggers, Shell Bombs.
  125. [2019/06/18 04:21:47] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) Ahh i have a dynamic ip
  126. [2019/06/18 04:21:58] Sans Sheryffe: (FS64 6.0.2l os) and that changes every second ;-)
  127. [2019/06/18 04:22:03] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) with port defense
  128. [2019/06/18 04:22:28] dizzyditz: (FS64 6.0.2v) so long as you are happy Kay thats fine and good luck
  129. [2019/06/18 04:22:35] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) and i use a VPN randomizer
  130. [2019/06/18 04:22:47] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) Safe as houses :P
  131. [2019/06/18 04:22:54] Norton Burns: OK. I think this subject is done with now. Please go do some research on how the interwebz works & stop derailing this conversation, so we can get back to support issues rather than perception issues. Thank you very much.
  132. [2019/06/18 04:22:58] Albert Dionysus: (FS64 6.0.2f os) VPN is con artist's bussiness
  133. [2019/06/18 04:23:13] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) absolutely
  134. [2019/06/18 04:23:17] RighelRising Reilly: (FS64 6.0.2f os) Ty Noton :)
  135. [2019/06/18 04:23:38] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) i was not the one who started the flame train
  136. [2019/06/18 04:23:38] RighelRising Reilly: (FS64 6.0.2f os) @Norton*
  137. [2019/06/18 04:23:52] Norton Burns: Please move this convo to secondlife:///app/group/bbde14ba-cd49-9519-9826-03bcf2f008eb/about which is open to all topics., including those of dubious validity.
  138. [2019/06/18 04:24:17] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) :D
  139. [2019/06/18 04:24:42] Norton Burns: Kaylah - you were the one making ridiculous claims. The pile-on was due to that. Topic over now. tyvm.
  140. [2019/06/18 04:24:54] MissHarkness: (FS64 6.0.2f) if the topic is over don't add fuel
  141. [2019/06/18 04:25:06] Norton Burns: Done now. tyvm.
  142. [2019/06/18 04:25:07] RighelRising Reilly: /me (FS64 6.0.2f os) applauses
  143. [2019/06/18 04:25:09] Mara Menges: (FS64 5.1.7v os) Afternoon, anyone knows how to give rights to post events to other people?
  144. [2019/06/18 04:25:28] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) in groups
  145. [2019/06/18 04:26:00] Mara Menges: (FS64 5.1.7v os) ok and then roles?
  146. [2019/06/18 04:26:16] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) yes
  147. [2019/06/18 04:26:23] Mara Menges: (FS64 5.1.7v os) thank you
  148. [2019/06/18 04:26:36] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) change it in the roles tab of the group
  149. [2019/06/18 04:26:40] Jodi Nikolaidis: Abilities> Allow event hosting on group land.
  150. [2019/06/18 04:26:46] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) no worries
  151.  
  152. [2019/06/18 04:27:00] Celestia Crystal: (FS64 6.0.2f) honestly. And .. say what will you will.. Given that the firestorm team is pretty much the emerald team and that Emerald made people vulnerable having their machines taken over by LOIC It's bad optics for firestorm staff/voluenteers to dissuade people talking about security issues for ANY reason
  153.  
  154. [2019/06/18 04:27:03] Gay Faulkes: the group must, of course, own the land
  155. [2019/06/18 04:27:45] Mara Menges: (FS64 5.1.7v os) thanks again for the help you all
  156. [2019/06/18 04:27:53] Norton Burns: Celestia - were you not listening when I said this topic is over? Foil hats can be collected at the door.
  157. [2019/06/18 04:27:57] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) no worries
  158. [2019/06/18 04:28:15] peachypickles: kayleigh just do what you like and the rest of us will continue to use firewall in my opinion your talking aload of bs
  159.  
  160. [2019/06/18 04:31:29] Celestia Crystal: (FS64 6.0.2f) What norton? Have something to hide? Don't want people knowing about firestorm's dirty past? https://secondlife.fandom.com/wiki/Emerald_Viewer Go ahead. Silence me. It'll only prove my point that the team blaming the whole thing on one guy then renaming the viewer to hide their involvement was pretty shady.
  161.  
  162. [2019/06/18 04:31:59] Sans Sheryffe: (FS64 6.0.2l os) gee.. how many years has it been?
  163. [2019/06/18 04:33:14] Mara Menges: (FS64 5.1.7v os) been here for 12 years never had problems
  164. [2019/06/18 04:33:25] Sans Sheryffe: (FS64 6.0.2l os) " It's bad optics for firestorm staff/voluenteers to dissuade people talking about security issues for ANY reason" yea, they were dissuading people from talking about presenting insecurity as security :D
  165. [2019/06/18 04:33:25] Lenni Mocha: says the person using the firestorm viewer
  166. [2019/06/18 04:33:32] Norton Burns: Your wish is my command - chat privileges revoked.
  167. If you don't trust the viewer, why on earth are you still using it? Feel free to pick any of the other viewers & collect your refund for everything you paid for this one at the door on your way out.
  168. [2019/06/18 04:34:00] Norton Burns: OK, once more... this topic is OVER.
  169. [2019/06/18 04:34:30] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) folks, let's not forget that while off topic is allowed between support questions, the primary function of this group is support. secondlife:///app/group/bbde14ba-cd49-9519-9826-03bcf2f008eb/about is better suited for chitter chatter ;)
  170. [2019/06/18 04:34:36] Memory475: (FS 6.0.2f) Let's all shift this conversation back to SUPPORT.
  171. [2019/06/18 04:34:52] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) waves hey megan
  172. [2019/06/18 04:35:03] Norton Burns: Meady - please don't try to moderate this group. Let the moderators do their job.
  173. [2019/06/18 04:35:29] meady212: (FS64 6.0.2f) just trying to help sorry :(
  174. [2019/06/18 04:35:55] RighelRising Reilly: (FS64 6.0.2f os) Hi welcome to Angeks !
  175. [2019/06/18 04:36:11] Shadow Blaukempt: (FS 6.0.2f) the ddos attack was because the creator got mad at someone and put an invisible frame page to the guys website and so when everyone went to login to emerald the guys website was "attacked" :P
  176. [2019/06/18 04:36:35] Norton Burns: TOPIC OVE!!
  177. [2019/06/18 04:36:47] Kelz Spiegel: (FS64 6.0.2f os) *jumps*
  178. [2019/06/18 04:36:51] Shadow Blaukempt: (FS 6.0.2f) no need to yell nortan
  179. [2019/06/18 04:36:55] Kelz Spiegel: (FS64 6.0.2f os) skurred me
  180. [2019/06/18 04:36:56] Shadow Blaukempt: (FS 6.0.2f) norton*
  181. [2019/06/18 04:39:04] Shadow Blaukempt: (FS 6.0.2f) just because you are a mod of the group doesnt mean you can yell at every one. show some professionalism :)
  182. [2019/06/18 04:39:51] Shadow Blaukempt: (FS 6.0.2f) i had just logged in and the message popped up so i put in my input...thats all :)
  183. [2019/06/18 04:40:02] Mara Menges: (FS64 5.1.7v os) om the other hand give this people that always volunterily help some respect
  184. [2019/06/18 04:40:16] Norton Burns: My 'professionalism finger' is right now hovering over the mute button again. What part of "this topic is over" do you fail to adequately comprehend?
  185. [2019/06/18 04:40:49] Shadow Blaukempt: (FS 6.0.2f) please read my last post...
  186. [2019/06/18 04:41:07] Perrin Ashbourne: (FS 5.1.7f) so.people are talking about security. Firestorm voluenteer tells them to stop. Someone points out that the precursor to pheonix which then became firestorm had software in it to hijack peoples computers. Then the guy takes away their ability ability to speak Publicly taunts and insults them then screams at the whole group? .... Norton. I'm going to STRONGLY advice you to resign and walk away. This is BAD for firestorm and you are damaging their credibility
  187. [2019/06/18 04:41:13] Lvddawter: /me (FS64 6.0.2f) hears the sound of a mute button being pressed :D
  188. [2019/06/18 04:41:24] Norton Burns: So why are you jumping into a conversation based on the first post with no knowledge whatsoever of context?
  189. [2019/06/18 04:41:38] Sans Sheryffe: (FS64 6.0.2l os) and again people were not talkig about security.
  190. [2019/06/18 04:41:38] Kelz Spiegel: (FS64 6.0.2f os) amen Norton
  191. [2019/06/18 04:41:50] Sans Sheryffe: (FS64 6.0.2l os) they were claiming their insecurity was as secure at they could be.
  192. [2019/06/18 04:41:51] Norton Burns: Perrin - whose alt are you?
  193. [2019/06/18 04:41:58] Mara Menges: (FS64 5.1.7v os) well said Norton
  194. [2019/06/18 04:42:25] Shadow Blaukempt: (FS 6.0.2f) i jumpped in based upon the last post i seen which was the one with the link about the ddos attack so i put my input in based upon that...
  195. [2019/06/18 04:42:57] Jodi Nikolaidis: threre is goingto eb a whole lot less of you in this group in a minute or so if this does not stop NOW..
  196. [2019/06/18 04:43:59] Norton Burns: I'm going to stop this topic, after repeated warnings, by hitting the mute button every time I see a new post ignoring me.
  197. [2019/06/18 04:44:12] Shadow Blaukempt: (FS 6.0.2f) lol
  198. [2019/06/18 04:44:24] Norton Burns: See?
  199. [2019/06/18 04:45:17] Memory475: (FS 6.0.2f) Good!! Then lets get back to Support Topics.
  200. [2019/06/18 04:45:22] Lvddawter: (FS64 6.0.2f) :D
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