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- I think I've read
- somewhere, maybe someone told me
- that when you were a child
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- you used to dream as a man.
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- Yeah.
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- I was typically a man,
- I went on adventures.
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- How come?
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- Probably because
- at the time I wanted to
- do things which men did
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- and women didn't.
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- You know going to Africa,
- living with animals, that's
- all I ever thought about.
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- Everything led in the most
- natural way, it seems now,
- to that magical invitation to
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- Africa in 1957 where I
- would meet Dr. Louis Leakey,
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- who had sent me on
- my way to Gombe
- and the chimpanzees.
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- I had no training, no degree.
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- But Louis didn't care
- about academic credentials.
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- What he was looking for was
- someone with an open mind,
- with a passion for knowledge,
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- with a love of animals, and
- with monumental patience.
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- My mission was to get
- close to the chimpanzees,
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- to live among them,
- to be accepted.
- 18
- 00:04:29,634 --> 00:04:35,812
- <i>I wanted to come as close to
- talking to animals as I could,
- to be like Doctor Doolittle.</i>
- 19
- 00:04:40,812 --> 00:04:44,892
- <i>I wanted to move among them
- without fear, like Tarzan.</i>
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- ♪ ♪
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- ♪ ♪
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- The huge, gnarled, and ancient
- trees, the little streams
- chuckling their way through
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- rocky pathways to the lake.
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- The birds. The insects.
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- Since I was eight or nine
- years old, I had dreamed
- of being in Africa,
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- of living in the bush
- among wild animals.
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- And suddenly, I found I was
- actually living in my dream.
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- I already felt that I belonged
- to this new forest world.
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- 00:05:52,884 --> 00:05:56,031
- That this was where
- I was meant to be.
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- ♪ ♪
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- ♪ ♪
- 32
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- When I arrived in Gombe,
- I had no idea what I was
- going to do except that
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- I was going to try and get
- the chimpanzees used to me,
- so that I could really learn
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- about what they were doing.
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- That was, that was in the
- back of my mind because
- I'd watched other animals,
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- and the only way to
- learn about them is when
- they know you're there but
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- they ignore you.
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- Except they
- can rip your face off.
- 39
- 00:06:58,250 --> 00:06:59,749
- -Well, I didn't know that.
- 40
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- I didn't think about that!
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- There was nobody
- talking about that.
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- There was no fear
- of chimpanzees in the wild?
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- -You have to realize that back
- then, there were no people out
- in the field whose research I
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- could read about except this
- one man, and he saw chimps
- once or maybe twice in the
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- three months of his study.
- 46
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- And then much earlier on,
- there was this crazy man who
- painted himself with
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- baboon shit, I think, and sat
- in hides, in hopes that
- chimps would appear.
- 48
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- There were plenty of snakes,
- many poisonous snakes.
- 49
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- And to be honest,
- I always believed that
- if you walk carefully,
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- you don't startle a snake,
- you don't tread on it,
- they're not going to hurt you.
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- I had this probably crazy
- feeling, 'nothing's going to
- hurt me, I'm meant to be here."
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- ♪ ♪
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- ♪ ♪
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- ♪ ♪
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- ♪ ♪
- 57
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- I watched them feeding in
- a large fig tree, calling
- noisily from time to time.
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- The trees came alive.
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- 00:10:17,816 --> 00:10:21,854
- And so began one of the most
- exciting periods of my life.
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- The time of discovery.
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- ♪ ♪
- 62
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- My life fell into a rhythm.
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- Day after day.
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- In the sun, the
- wind and the rain.
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- I climbed into the
- hills and stayed with the
- chimps from dawn...
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- until darkness fell.
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- Most times I would
- encounter a group of
- chimps or a single chimp,
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- but there were times when I
- couldn't find them at all.
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- 00:11:12,437 --> 00:11:17,413
- And when I tried to get
- closer, they ran off
- as soon as they saw me.
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- I was an intruder.
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- 00:11:26,918 --> 00:11:29,523
- And a strange one at that.
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- As I am not a defeatist,
- it only made my determination
- to succeed stronger.
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- 00:11:37,696 --> 00:11:40,364
- I never had any
- thought of quitting.
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- I should forever have
- lost all self respect
- if I had given up.
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- 00:11:52,376 --> 00:11:56,716
- I became totally absorbed
- into this forest existence.
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- I could give myself up to
- the sheer pleasure of being on
- my own in the rugged terrain
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- that I was coming to know
- as well as I had known the
- Bournemouth cliffs as a child.
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- It was an unparalleled period.
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- When aloneness
- was a way of life.
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- And even as I was, bit by bit,
- piecing together something
- of their way of life,
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- so they were getting
- used to the sight of
- the strange white ape.
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- In those days,
- it was not thought at
- all safe for a young,
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- single girl to go into
- the wilds of Africa.
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- I had to choose a companion.
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- 00:13:27,038 --> 00:13:29,914
- It was my mother
- who volunteered.
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- 00:13:36,914 --> 00:13:42,554
- Mom set up a clinic; she
- handed out medicine to many
- of the local fisherman.
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- 00:13:43,554 --> 00:13:47,666
- Patients would walk for
- miles to get treatment.
- 89
- 00:13:54,666 --> 00:13:57,235
- What was your relationship
- like with your father?
- 90
- 00:13:58,235 --> 00:14:00,671
- I didn't really
- know my father.
- He went off to the war.
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- When war broke out I
- was five and of course
- I hugely admired him,
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- but he didn't really
- care about children.
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- So, I couldn't say I had
- a relationship with him.
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- I think the most important
- part about my mother
- was that she listened.
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- She was always fair.
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- She was never angry
- without a reason.
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- She supported me and
- my love of animals.
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- She never said,
- "Well, you're just a girl.
- 99
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- You can't do that.
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- 00:14:34,405 --> 00:14:36,907
- Why don't you dream about
- something you can achieve?"
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- Which is what
- everybody else told me.
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- 00:14:40,711 --> 00:14:45,788
- So it was my mother who really
- built up my self-esteem.
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- Like most children before
- the age of TV and computer
- games, I loved being outside.
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- Playing in the secrets
- places in the garden,
- learning about nature.
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- 00:15:04,168 --> 00:15:10,509
- I spent many hours high above
- the ground at the top of my
- favorite tree and
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- I would read up there in my
- own leafy and private world.
- 107
- 00:15:18,582 --> 00:15:23,420
- <i>It was daydreaming about life
- in the forest with Tarzan that
- lead to my determination to go</i>
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- to Africa to live with animals
- and write books about them.
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- 00:15:32,596 --> 00:15:36,335
- I never had any aspiration
- of being married
- and having a family.
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- It just didn't come
- into my way of thinking.
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- 00:15:39,203 --> 00:15:41,474
- It simply wasn't there.
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- 00:15:42,474 --> 00:15:45,178
- Going to Africa,
- living with animals.
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- 00:15:47,178 --> 00:15:50,451
- That's all I ever thought about.
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- 00:15:53,451 --> 00:15:58,725
- We were by no
- means a wealthy family, so
- university wasn't an option.
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- 00:16:00,725 --> 00:16:04,631
- But I still wanted to
- work with animals in
- some far off place.
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- 00:16:07,631 --> 00:16:10,300
- I got a job as a waitress.
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- 00:16:10,301 --> 00:16:14,174
- I saved my wages and my
- tips, every penny I could...
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- to get me to Africa.
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- 00:16:28,318 --> 00:16:33,662
- But even though I was
- living my childhood dream, I
- couldn't help but be concerned
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- 00:16:37,662 --> 00:16:40,006
- because I couldn't get
- close to the chimps.
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- ♪ ♪
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- 00:17:00,184 --> 00:17:04,890
- I didn't know if they
- would ever get used to me.
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- 00:17:05,890 --> 00:17:08,036
- And time was running out.
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- ♪ ♪
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- How frustrating
- was it trying to study
- them in those early days?
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- 00:17:42,727 --> 00:17:45,327
- -It was probably mostly
- frustrating because
- they kept running away.
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- 00:17:47,132 --> 00:17:51,300
- And while chimpanzees are
- running away from you, you
- can't really get down to the
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- details of their behavior and
- in the back of my mind it was
- always the fear if I don't
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- 00:17:57,142 --> 00:17:58,741
- find out something exciting.
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- 00:17:58,742 --> 00:18:03,115
- The money will
- run out cause all my earlier
- observations were either chimps
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- close up running away
- or sitting on the peak
- or some other spot and
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- watching them
- through binoculars.
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- 00:18:12,624 --> 00:18:17,930
- And so, you know, from
- those early observations
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- it was very clear
- that I wasn't really
- learning anything much.
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- 00:18:39,384 --> 00:18:42,125
- I'd been in Gombe
- for five months.
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- 00:18:47,125 --> 00:18:50,796
- It had been a
- frustrating morning.
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- 00:18:51,796 --> 00:18:55,868
- I had tramped up and down
- three different valleys
- in search of chimps,
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- but had found none.
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- 00:19:22,227 --> 00:19:26,997
- I soon recognized
- the adult male less
- fearful than the others whom I
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- 00:19:26,998 --> 00:19:32,342
- already knew by sight
- because of the distinctive
- white hair on his chin.
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- 00:19:37,342 --> 00:19:42,923
- And unlike the
- others, he didn't run.
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- 00:19:52,923 --> 00:19:58,039
- ♪ ♪
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- 00:20:09,039 --> 00:20:15,088
- ♪ ♪
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- 00:20:25,088 --> 00:20:29,096
- ♪ ♪
- 145
- 00:20:41,905 --> 00:20:46,347
- After months of patient
- and tireless observation,
- I had been rewarded.
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- The chimps had accepted me.
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- 00:20:55,486 --> 00:21:00,358
- And gradually I was able to
- penetrate further and further
- into a magic world that no
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- human had explored before.
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- 00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:08,284
- The world of the
- wild chimpanzees.
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- ♪ ♪
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- ♪ ♪
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- 00:21:54,144 --> 00:21:57,984
- Finally, I was
- allowed to observe the
- chimpanzees closely.
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- 00:22:00,984 --> 00:22:04,522
- I learned that chimpanzees
- spend long hours
- in grooming sessions.
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- 00:22:05,522 --> 00:22:08,063
- They, like us, need friendly
- contact and reassurance.
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- 00:22:12,063 --> 00:22:14,101
- As I got to know them as
- individuals I named them.
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- 00:22:17,101 --> 00:22:22,172
- David Greybeard, with
- his calm and dignified
- personality and often
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- 00:22:22,173 --> 00:22:26,380
- he was accompanied
- by the top ranking male
- at the time, Goliath.
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- 00:22:29,380 --> 00:22:34,053
- Mr. McGregor, a somewhat
- belligerent old male,
- and then there was Flo,
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- 00:22:36,053 --> 00:22:40,195
- with her bulbous nose and
- ragged ears along with
- her infant daughter Fifi.
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- 00:22:45,195 --> 00:22:49,966
- Staring into
- the eyes of a chimpanzee,
- I saw a thinking,
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- 00:22:49,967 --> 00:22:53,713
- reasoning personality
- looking back.
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- 00:23:03,713 --> 00:23:08,796
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- 00:23:18,796 --> 00:23:20,896
- ♪ ♪
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- 00:23:20,897 --> 00:23:25,939
- I was learning from some
- of the most fascinating
- creatures of our times.
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- 00:23:27,939 --> 00:23:30,912
- And I realized that they
- were all part of one group.
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- 00:23:34,912 --> 00:23:37,489
- A community.
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- 00:23:44,489 --> 00:23:46,160
- And the more I learned,
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- 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:55,288
- the more I realized how like
- us they were in so many ways.
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- 00:24:17,288 --> 00:24:21,227
- At that time in the early
- 1960's it was held at
- least by many scientists
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- 00:24:23,227 --> 00:24:26,129
- that only humans had minds.
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- 00:24:26,130 --> 00:24:29,002
- Only humans were capable
- of rational thought.
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- 00:24:32,002 --> 00:24:36,144
- Fortunately, I had not
- been to university, and I
- did not know these things.
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- 00:24:41,144 --> 00:24:46,850
- I felt very much as though
- I was learning about fellow
- beings capable of joy and
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- 00:24:46,851 --> 00:24:51,510
- sorrow, fear, and jealousy.
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- 00:26:26,951 --> 00:26:32,588
- Louis Leakey sent me to Gombe
- because he believed that an
- understanding of chimpanzees
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- 00:26:32,589 --> 00:26:38,144
- in the wild would help him to
- better guess how our Stone Age
- ancestors may have behaved.
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- 00:26:53,144 --> 00:26:57,479
- It had long been thought
- that we were the only
- creatures on earth that used
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- and made tools.
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- 00:27:00,817 --> 00:27:03,625
- Man the toolmaker is
- how we were defined.
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- 00:27:08,625 --> 00:27:12,304
- And here was David
- Greybeard using a tool.
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- 00:27:20,304 --> 00:27:23,844
- It was hard for me to
- believe what I had seen.
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- 00:27:26,844 --> 00:27:31,151
- A few days later I watched
- spellbound as chimps set
- off to a termite mound,
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- 00:27:34,151 --> 00:27:38,755
- picked a small leafy
- twig, then stripped
- it of its leaves.
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- 00:27:38,756 --> 00:27:41,257
- That was object modification.
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- 00:27:41,258 --> 00:27:43,897
- The crude beginning
- of tool making.
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- 00:27:47,897 --> 00:27:51,343
- It had never been seen before.
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- 00:27:59,343 --> 00:28:01,845
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- 00:28:01,846 --> 00:28:07,018
- When I telegramed the news to
- Louis Leakey he responded that
- we must now redefine man
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- 00:28:08,018 --> 00:28:11,557
- or accept chimpanzee's as human.
- 190
- 00:28:14,557 --> 00:28:18,963
- My observations at Gombe would
- challenge human uniqueness and
- whenever that happens...
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- 00:28:19,963 --> 00:28:22,902
- there is always
- a violent uproar.
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- There were some who would try to
- discredit my observations
- because I was a young,
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- untrained girl and should,
- therefore, be disregarded.
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- 00:28:34,779 --> 00:28:38,781
- The result of it all, however,
- was that Louis was able
- to obtain a grant from the
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- 00:28:38,782 --> 00:28:42,623
- National Geographic Society
- to continue my study.
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- 00:28:45,623 --> 00:28:50,294
- In addition, they would be
- sending out a photographer
- to document the chimpanzees.
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- 00:29:26,262 --> 00:29:28,198
- Hi, I'm Jane.
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- 00:29:28,199 --> 00:29:29,270
- -Hugo
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- 00:29:34,270 --> 00:29:38,274
- Jane, for someone who
- enjoyed your solitude,
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- 00:29:38,275 --> 00:29:41,344
- were you concerned
- about bringing another
- person into your...
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- 00:29:41,345 --> 00:29:42,711
- -Yeah.
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- 00:29:42,712 --> 00:29:45,884
- No, I wasn't
- particularly happy, but
- it was part of the deal.
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- 00:29:46,884 --> 00:29:48,684
- Geographic funds you.
- 204
- 00:29:48,685 --> 00:29:50,957
- They must cover the research.
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- 00:29:52,957 --> 00:29:56,392
- It was my project.
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- 00:29:56,393 --> 00:29:59,169
- And he came to, you know,
- document my project.
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- 00:30:05,169 --> 00:30:09,415
- And I just didn't want
- anybody coming into
- my little paradise.
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- What were your
- first impressions of Hugo?
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- -Well, Hugo smoked.
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- He almost chained smoked.
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- And all the butts on
- the floor, oh I have
- always hated smoking.
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- And he was a perfectionist.
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- It drove me nuts.
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- But at the same time, you know,
- he was a nice looking guy and
- his voice was quiet.
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- -The first evening Hugo
- spent telling me about the
- films that he'd made and his
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- childhood and how he
- had always wanted to
- photograph animals.
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- So we had a lot in common.
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- And I think it was pretty
- obvious to me right from the
- start that I was a subject of
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- interest as well as the chimps.
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- One day we were greeted
- with fantastic news.
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- A chimp had crept into
- my tent and had taken some
- bananas left from my supper.
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- Perhaps he would come again.
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- And so the next day,
- Hugo and I waited.
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- As the hours went by, I
- began to fear that the
- chimp wouldn't come.
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- Then a black shape
- appeared on the other
- side of the clearing.
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- I recognized him at once.
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- It was David Greybeard.
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- I could hardly believe it.
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- For months the chimps had been
- running off when they saw me.
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- Now one had actually
- visited my camp.
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- After that I always had a
- supply of bananas ready.
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- The chimps often came to
- camp looking for bananas.
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- And gradually they allowed
- me to get closer and closer.
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- 238
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- It was absolutely thrilling to
- have the chimpanzees so close,
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- but the bananas feedings
- were not without problems.
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- As they lost their fear of
- us, the chimps quickly proved
- to be unconscionable thieves.
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- They would steal blankets,
- cloths from the kitchen,
- shirts and pillows,
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- and cardboard boxes-
- wonderful things to chew on.
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- No longer did the chimpanzees
- arrive in small quiet parties.
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- Instead, they invaded
- our camp in huge groups and
- aggressive competition between
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- chimpanzees increased.
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- Occasionally, we
- had to seek shelter.
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- 00:36:13,369 --> 00:36:15,182
- And the aggression
- became more serious.
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- 00:36:51,807 --> 00:36:56,882
- In order to stop the
- aggression, we decided to
- create the feeding station.
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- With the hope that it would
- control their aggressive
- tendencies and bring peace.
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- Now, using hand operated steel
- boxes we could manage the
- feeding in an organized way.
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- As a result, we were able
- to make closer observations
- than ever before.
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- Old Flo was easy to
- identify, she had a bulbous
- nose and ragged ears.
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- Flo was the top ranked
- female of her community
- and could dominate all
- 257
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- the other females.
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- But none of the adult males.
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- For in chimpanzee society
- males are the dominant sex.
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- One day she came to camp
- with a pink swelling
- on her backside.
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- It was a sign that she
- was ready for mating.
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- Many of the males
- quickly realized and
- began their pursuit.
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- She was followed by a
- long line of suitors.
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- It was from Flo
- that I first learned that
- in the wild female chimps do
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- not just have one mate.
- 266
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- She allowed them all
- to mate with her.
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- And Fifi hated it.
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- 00:39:24,894 --> 00:39:27,196
- It must
- have been exciting to have
- been joined by someone who
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- shared your passions.
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- -No, that's right.
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- We both loved being out in
- nature and we both loved
- the work we were doing.
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- We just got on very well.
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- Hugo's time in Gombe
- was almost over.
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- I cared for him, and I
- knew that I would miss him,
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- but then after he had left I
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- received a telegram.
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- 284
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- When you and
- Hugo decided to get married,
- what were your plans?
- 285
- 00:41:46,436 --> 00:41:50,538
- You know honestly, we
- didn't really make long term
- plans, we really didn't.
- 286
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- We just wanted to go back
- to Gombe and make films.
- 287
- 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,800
- When we returned to Gombe,
- there was wonderful news.
- 288
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- Flo gave birth to a son.
- 289
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- I called him Flint.
- 290
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- When Flint was born it gave
- Hugo and I the opportunity to
- initiate a study that could
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- last 50 years.
- 292
- 00:42:39,889 --> 00:42:44,892
- And it was the first time
- an infant chimpanzee and the
- relationship between parent
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- and child could be observed
- so closely in the wild.
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- As a mother Flo was
- affectionate,
- tolerant, and nurturing
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- and used distraction
- rather than punishment
- to teach her small infant.
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- 00:43:34,110 --> 00:43:37,782
- Fifi soon became
- utterly preoccupied
- with her infant brother.
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- She tried to handle him.
- 300
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- But Flo very gently
- prevented her.
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- Eventually though as soon as
- she was allowed she played
- with him, groomed him,
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- and carried him around.
- 303
- 00:43:59,034 --> 00:44:02,382
- Indeed, she became a
- real help to her mother.
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- 00:45:49,579 --> 00:45:53,617
- What was it
- about Flo that you admired?
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- 00:45:54,617 --> 00:45:58,422
- - Well, she was all things
- that a chimp mother should be.
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- 00:45:59,422 --> 00:46:02,193
- She was protective, but
- not over protective.
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- 00:46:03,193 --> 00:46:07,097
- She was affectionate, she was
- playful, but being supportive.
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- That was the key and of course
- that is what my mother was.
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- She supported me.
- 315
- 00:46:20,009 --> 00:46:26,217
- And there is no question that
- those close contacts with
- Flo and her family were very
- 316
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- important to my own development.
- 317
- 00:46:33,389 --> 00:46:39,239
- It was just so amazing to have
- this sort of relationship.
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- 00:47:46,529 --> 00:47:51,600
- Together, the chimpanzees
- and the birds and the insects,
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- the teeming life
- of the vibrant forest,
- formed one whole.
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- All part of the great mystery.
- 325
- 00:48:00,208 --> 00:48:03,951
- And I was part of it too.
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- 00:48:07,951 --> 00:48:13,123
- All the time, I was
- getting closer to animals
- and nature and as a result,
- 327
- 00:48:15,123 --> 00:48:20,405
- closer to myself and more
- in tune with the spiritual
- power that I felt all around.
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- 00:48:46,356 --> 00:48:51,804
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- 00:49:02,804 --> 00:49:07,308
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- 00:49:07,309 --> 00:49:13,817
- I thought, as I have so
- often since, what an amazing
- privilege it was to be utterly
- 332
- 00:49:14,817 --> 00:49:18,623
- accepted thus by a
- wild, free animal.
- 333
- 00:49:20,623 --> 00:49:24,331
- -Truth is stranger than
- fiction and fiction can be
- transformed into prophecy.
- 334
- 00:49:28,331 --> 00:49:32,466
- Here we have a perfect example
- of that evolution, with this
- lovely English lady called
- 335
- 00:49:32,467 --> 00:49:37,973
- Jane and likewise traded her
- comfortable home in England
- for the primitive life of the
- 336
- 00:49:37,974 --> 00:49:40,710
- African wilderness
- among the African apes.
- 337
- 00:49:41,710 --> 00:49:43,988
- And now I give myself
- the rewarding pleasure
- of presenting to you
- 338
- 00:49:44,012 --> 00:49:45,550
- Miss Jane Goodall.
- 339
- 00:49:47,550 --> 00:49:50,510
- David Graybeard is
- a chimpanzee who has put
- his complete trust in man.
- 340
- 00:49:51,154 --> 00:49:56,725
- Surely it's up to us to see
- that at least some of these
- nearly human creatures survive
- 341
- 00:49:56,726 --> 00:49:58,005
- in their natural habitat.
- 342
- 00:50:10,005 --> 00:50:12,540
- - Jane Goodall tall,
- blonde and beautiful.
- 343
- 00:50:12,541 --> 00:50:15,512
- Jane Goodall living
- with the chimpanzees in
- the wilds of Africa...
- 344
- 00:50:16,512 --> 00:50:19,046
- I was the
- Geographic covergirl.
- 345
- 00:50:19,047 --> 00:50:21,850
- And people said well my
- fame was due to my legs.
- 346
- 00:50:21,851 --> 00:50:25,123
- Well, I mean, it was so
- stupid, it didn't bother me.
- 347
- 00:50:27,123 --> 00:50:31,027
- It was really very useful
- because by this time I was
- needing to raise money myself,
- 348
- 00:50:32,027 --> 00:50:34,699
- so I made use of it.
- 349
- 00:50:36,699 --> 00:50:40,201
- Hugo and
- I successfully applied
- for additional funding,
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- 00:50:40,202 --> 00:50:42,740
- to build up a research
- station in Gombe.
- 351
- 00:50:45,740 --> 00:50:50,880
- And we accepted students so
- that we could take advantage
- of the increased opportunity
- 352
- 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,550
- for collecting data.
- 353
- 00:50:55,550 --> 00:50:58,085
- Jane Goodall
- came back from Africa just
- a few weeks ago.
- 354
- 00:50:58,086 --> 00:51:00,646
- Since then, she's been
- traveling around Europe
- and across America,
- 355
- 00:51:01,257 --> 00:51:03,225
- telling zoologists.
- 356
- 00:51:03,226 --> 00:51:06,895
- It is a very great
- pleasure for Hugo and me
- to be with you here tonight.
- 357
- 00:51:06,896 --> 00:51:08,296
- -Dr. Goodall and her husband
- 358
- 00:51:08,297 --> 00:51:09,997
- have been filming
- and studying...
- 359
- 00:51:09,998 --> 00:51:14,903
- -Hugo, a Dutchman, came
- to Africa to film her studies
- and they later married.
- 360
- 00:51:14,904 --> 00:51:18,806
- -She and her Husband, Baron
- Hugo van Lawick, are now the
- leading experts in the study
- 361
- 00:51:18,807 --> 00:51:22,579
- of chimpanzees, their research
- station in Gombe in Tanzania.
- 362
- 00:51:23,579 --> 00:51:25,913
- -I am absolutely
- full of admiration for
- somebody who can go and live
- 363
- 00:51:25,914 --> 00:51:28,616
- alone in a jungle and do this
- sort of work that you did.
- 364
- 00:51:28,617 --> 00:51:30,685
- Were you ever really
- very frightened?
- 365
- 00:51:30,686 --> 00:51:33,921
- -Sometimes I was
- frightened especially
- of things like leopards,
- 366
- 00:51:33,922 --> 00:51:37,826
- but it was the
- kind of life I had always
- dreamed of myself living.
- 367
- 00:51:37,827 --> 00:51:41,597
- And it was so fascinating
- that nothing could deter me.
- 368
- 00:51:42,597 --> 00:51:45,434
- What about
- the actual significance
- of the studies?
- 369
- 00:51:46,434 --> 00:51:51,772
- We feel quite strongly
- that one of the goals
- of continuing work is to
- 370
- 00:51:51,773 --> 00:51:56,447
- increasingly relate our
- understanding of chimpanzee
- behavior to human behavior.
- 371
- 00:51:58,447 --> 00:52:01,327
- How long are
- you going to be associated
- with the chimpanzees?
- 372
- 00:52:02,050 --> 00:52:05,352
- Oh I should say it's
- a rough guess until I die,
- but I can't tell you how
- 373
- 00:52:05,353 --> 00:52:07,858
- many years that will be.
- 374
- 00:52:09,858 --> 00:52:13,138
- But I think one of the most
- valuable things has been this
- film record which has been
- 375
- 00:52:14,030 --> 00:52:18,668
- kept and we are hoping
- that Hugo will be able to
- come back and carry on.
- 376
- 00:52:19,668 --> 00:52:22,671
- Especially as the
- last three months gave
- such fantastic film,
- 377
- 00:52:22,672 --> 00:52:24,805
- better than all the
- rest put together.
- 378
- 00:52:24,806 --> 00:52:28,655
- It seems to me vitally
- important that somebody
- should be there.
- 379
- 00:52:39,655 --> 00:52:42,695
- -Unless there is something
- else to discuss we
- will adjourn the meeting.
- 380
- 00:52:45,695 --> 00:52:48,565
- - Geographic ended the funding
- for Hugo just like that.
- 381
- 00:52:50,565 --> 00:52:53,767
- But it was
- always an assignment and
- assignments when you're a
- 382
- 00:52:53,768 --> 00:52:56,407
- cameraman come to an end.
- 383
- 00:52:58,407 --> 00:53:02,713
- It was very upsetting,
- unfortunate and sad.
- 384
- 00:53:03,713 --> 00:53:06,513
- And it was like,
- well what do we do?
- You know, how do we?
- 385
- 00:53:06,514 --> 00:53:09,018
- Cause I wanted to go on
- at Gombe and he couldn't.
- 386
- 00:53:10,018 --> 00:53:13,592
- It was simple like that.
- 387
- 00:53:16,592 --> 00:53:20,802
- So then I had to change
- everything actually.
- 388
- 00:53:27,802 --> 00:53:33,378
- We had to find other work to
- do, which we did of course.
- 389
- 00:53:36,378 --> 00:53:38,322
- On the Serengeti.
- 390
- 00:53:46,322 --> 00:53:51,225
- We had students at Gombe
- and we used to talk to them on
- the radio telephone just about
- 391
- 00:53:51,226 --> 00:53:53,730
- every day I think.
- 392
- 00:53:54,730 --> 00:53:59,943
- So I would write books,
- and Hugo would make films.
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- 00:54:08,943 --> 00:54:15,619
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- 394
- 00:54:17,619 --> 00:54:21,257
- Was it difficult
- for you to not be at Gombe?
- 395
- 00:54:22,257 --> 00:54:26,995
- Well, because I had a
- jolly good team of students
- at Gombe and I heard what
- 396
- 00:54:26,996 --> 00:54:31,771
- was happening all the time,
- it wasn't too bad at all.
- 397
- 00:54:36,771 --> 00:54:40,642
- I had all this
- finding out to do.
- 398
- 00:54:40,643 --> 00:54:46,381
- So, I was getting on with
- writing and I was able to
- watch other animals and that
- 399
- 00:54:46,382 --> 00:54:49,119
- gave me a wider perspective.
- 400
- 00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:55,568
- I understood more
- animals better than if
- I hadn't left Gombe.
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- 00:55:05,568 --> 00:55:11,648
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- 00:55:20,648 --> 00:55:24,819
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- 403
- 00:55:24,820 --> 00:55:30,558
- From the moment when we stood
- on the Serengeti plains, it
- had been as though an unseen
- 404
- 00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:33,235
- hand had drawn back a curtain.
- 405
- 00:55:39,235 --> 00:55:42,275
- The mystery of evolution
- was all around us.
- 406
- 00:55:47,275 --> 00:55:51,222
- I was awed by the beauty.
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- 00:56:01,222 --> 00:56:07,373
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- 00:56:17,373 --> 00:56:22,623
- ♪ ♪
- 409
- 00:56:34,623 --> 00:56:38,459
- We didn't sit
- down and talk about
- shall we have children or
- 410
- 00:56:38,460 --> 00:56:40,727
- anything like that.
- 411
- 00:56:40,728 --> 00:56:43,235
- But Grub came along
- so, that was that.
- 412
- 00:56:46,235 --> 00:56:49,937
- It was just one of the things
- that happened, you know.
- 413
- 00:56:49,938 --> 00:56:53,112
- You got married and you got
- pregnant, and you had a baby.
- 414
- 00:56:57,112 --> 00:57:02,616
- I don't remember contemplating
- what this would do
- to me, what it would do to us,
- 415
- 00:57:02,617 --> 00:57:08,958
- how it would be, but the
- idea of having a baby after
- Flo had a baby and I thought
- 416
- 00:57:09,958 --> 00:57:13,362
- I would watch my baby and
- see the difference.
- 417
- 00:57:14,362 --> 00:57:18,610
- And of course, Grub would
- be with us on the Serengeti.
- 418
- 00:57:27,610 --> 00:57:32,513
- I had planned to do a
- decent study and keep
- notes and everything,
- 419
- 00:57:32,514 --> 00:57:36,286
- watching for the development
- stages in Grub, just as
- I had done with the chimps.
- 420
- 00:57:38,286 --> 00:57:43,223
- And catching it on film
- seemed a jolly good idea,
- but it doesn't work with
- 421
- 00:57:43,224 --> 00:57:46,660
- your own child.
- 422
- 00:57:46,661 --> 00:57:49,861
- I just found that I didn't
- want to do it, I wanted just
- to be there in the moment.
- 423
- 00:57:53,235 --> 00:57:58,640
- For the first three years
- of his life, I wasn't
- away one single night.
- 424
- 00:57:58,641 --> 00:58:02,646
- I was always there.
- 425
- 00:58:04,646 --> 00:58:09,186
- Of course, like all mothers,
- I wanted to give my son the
- best possible start in life,
- 426
- 00:58:11,186 --> 00:58:14,090
- and I had to choose between
- various sources of advice.
- 427
- 00:58:16,090 --> 00:58:21,070
- There was my own mother,
- there was Dr. Spock,
- and there was Flo.
- 428
- 00:58:29,070 --> 00:58:32,339
- There is no doubt that
- my observations of the
- chimpanzees helped me to
- 429
- 00:58:32,340 --> 00:58:35,042
- be a better mother.
- 430
- 00:58:35,043 --> 00:58:39,546
- But I found also that the
- experience of being myself
- a mother helped me better
- 431
- 00:58:39,547 --> 00:58:43,853
- understand chimpanzee
- maternal behavior.
- 432
- 00:58:44,853 --> 00:58:48,522
- It was not until
- Grub came along, for example,
- that I began to understand
- 433
- 00:58:48,523 --> 00:58:51,760
- the basic powerful
- instincts of mother love.
- 434
- 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,599
- How much more easily I could
- now understand the feelings
- of a chimpanzee mother who
- 435
- 00:58:57,599 --> 00:59:02,072
- furiously waved her
- arms and barked out threats
- to any who approached her
- 436
- 00:59:03,072 --> 00:59:06,813
- infant too closely.
- 437
- 00:59:10,813 --> 00:59:15,784
- When Grub was little,
- it was dangerous
- for him at Gombe.
- 438
- 00:59:16,784 --> 00:59:20,224
- Chimpanzees eat other primates.
- 439
- 00:59:22,224 --> 00:59:23,957
- We are a primate.
- 440
- 00:59:23,958 --> 00:59:26,130
- They have been known
- to take infant humans.
- 441
- 00:59:28,130 --> 00:59:31,967
- I wasn't going to risk
- my little precious son.
- 442
- 00:59:32,967 --> 00:59:36,572
- So when we went to
- Gombe, it was a cage.
- 443
- 00:59:37,572 --> 00:59:41,779
- It had been made at a time
- when some of the chimps became
- very aggressive towards Hugo.
- 444
- 00:59:43,779 --> 00:59:46,815
- And so Grub sat in a cage.
- 445
- 00:59:47,815 --> 00:59:51,055
- But it was painted blue and
- there were mobiles hanging
- down and it was very lovely.
- 446
- 00:59:56,958 --> 01:00:02,118
- I had thought that I could
- raise a child and carry on
- with my work at the same time.
- 447
- 01:00:03,297 --> 01:00:05,300
- It was not so.
- 448
- 01:00:06,300 --> 01:00:10,043
- I stopped following the
- chimps; the students and
- field staff did that.
- 449
- 01:00:14,043 --> 01:00:17,182
- I merely administered
- the research station.
- 450
- 01:00:21,182 --> 01:00:25,889
- Eventually, we spent the
- bulk of our time working
- on the Serengeti.
- 451
- 01:00:26,889 --> 01:00:33,798
- I was Hugo's assistant
- and I was mother to Grub.
- 452
- 01:00:36,798 --> 01:00:39,634
- From Nairobi,
- in a small bush plane
- it's a two hour flight to
- 453
- 01:00:39,635 --> 01:00:41,535
- en Dudu Tanzania.
- 454
- 01:00:41,536 --> 01:00:44,404
- Our purpose was to meet Grub,
- the three and a half year old
- 455
- 01:00:44,405 --> 01:00:46,908
- son of Doctor Jane Goodall
- and Hugo van Lawick.
- 456
- 01:00:46,909 --> 01:00:51,313
- Born and raised in Africa,
- who speaks to animals,
- English to his parents,
- 457
- 01:00:52,313 --> 01:00:56,485
- and perfect Swahili
- to his only playmate,
- a 40-year-old African.
- 458
- 01:00:57,485 --> 01:00:59,725
- This child has spent
- three quarters of
- his life in Africa,
- 459
- 01:01:00,188 --> 01:01:01,756
- and I don't mean in
- a Nairobian cities.
- 460
- 01:01:01,757 --> 01:01:03,890
- I mean in really remote areas.
- 461
- 01:01:03,891 --> 01:01:06,993
- You'll make a sound for me?
- 462
- 01:01:06,994 --> 01:01:09,196
- -What does a zebra say, Grub?
- 463
- 01:01:10,599 --> 01:01:11,679
- A bit louder. That's right.
- 464
- 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,734
- And what about a hyena?
- 465
- 01:01:15,436 --> 01:01:16,504
- That's a beauty.
- 466
- 01:01:16,505 --> 01:01:17,538
- Now lion?
- 467
- 01:01:19,173 --> 01:01:21,509
- Tell me
- some stories about raising
- the child here, Hugo.
- 468
- 01:01:21,510 --> 01:01:25,178
- -Well, one of the first things
- we had to do when he was tiny
- was teach him of the dangers in
- 469
- 01:01:25,179 --> 01:01:29,783
- the bush, so we showed them
- to him and say, "Ow, ow," and
- teach him that he was to stay
- 470
- 01:01:29,784 --> 01:01:31,518
- away from these animals.
- 471
- 01:01:31,519 --> 01:01:34,355
- Did you
- learn anything from watching
- chimps and raising children?
- 472
- 01:01:34,356 --> 01:01:36,556
- I'm told that a chimp baby
- is just given so much love.
- 473
- 01:01:36,557 --> 01:01:39,359
- Is that a good, do you
- think you could transfer
- that to our lives?
- 474
- 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,395
- Does it have a meaning?
- 475
- 01:01:41,396 --> 01:01:44,531
- -With Grub, we gave him
- immense amounts of love and
- security, and everyone said,
- 476
- 01:01:44,532 --> 01:01:46,366
- "Oh, he'll be so
- dependent on you.
- 477
- 01:01:46,367 --> 01:01:48,201
- He'll never make his
- own way in the world."
- 478
- 01:01:48,202 --> 01:01:50,705
- It seems to myself,
- the opposite.
- 479
- 01:01:50,706 --> 01:01:52,973
- When
- he reaches six, Grublin
- will have to be taken to
- 480
- 01:01:52,974 --> 01:01:54,609
- England for schooling.
- 481
- 01:01:54,610 --> 01:01:57,779
- I hope, in the process
- of being educated,
- he never forgets what he
- 482
- 01:01:57,780 --> 01:01:59,557
- has already learned.
- 483
- 01:02:09,557 --> 01:02:15,740
- ♪ ♪
- 484
- 01:02:25,740 --> 01:02:29,253
- ♪ ♪
- 485
- 01:02:38,253 --> 01:02:42,256
- ♪ ♪
- 486
- 01:02:42,257 --> 01:02:45,862
- Hello, hello, hello.
- Anynews with you? Any news
- with you? Over.
- 487
- 01:02:47,862 --> 01:02:50,931
- <i>- I just talked to and I think they are coming.
- - Over.</i>
- 488
- 01:02:50,932 --> 01:02:55,770
- Ok, ok,
- have received you.
- 489
- 01:02:55,771 --> 01:02:58,605
- I'll be joining you soon.
- 490
- 01:02:58,606 --> 01:03:00,512
- Over and out, over and out.
- 491
- 01:03:35,677 --> 01:03:41,820
- ♪ ♪
- 492
- 01:03:44,820 --> 01:03:47,821
- It was a horrible time,
- one after the other.
- 493
- 01:03:47,822 --> 01:03:50,764
- Chimpanzees came
- in, dragging limbs.
- 494
- 01:03:56,764 --> 01:03:59,836
- Some of them were okay.
- 495
- 01:04:01,836 --> 01:04:06,179
- But McGregor, both legs gone.
- 496
- 01:04:11,179 --> 01:04:15,192
- Unable to use even one arm.
- 497
- 01:04:24,192 --> 01:04:29,802
- ♪ ♪
- 498
- 01:04:34,802 --> 01:04:37,547
- It was awful.
- 499
- 01:04:45,547 --> 01:04:49,716
- We immediately found that we
- could vaccinate the chimps.
- 500
- 01:04:49,717 --> 01:04:54,898
- It was a bit late, but
- maybe it would have
- gone on if we hadn't.
- 501
- 01:05:03,898 --> 01:05:10,677
- But, McGregor, he
- had to be shot.
- 502
- 01:05:16,677 --> 01:05:19,680
- Did someone say,
- "Let nature take its course?"
- 503
- 01:05:19,681 --> 01:05:21,281
- -Sorry.
- 504
- 01:05:21,282 --> 01:05:23,652
- I didn't care what anybody said.
- 505
- 01:05:24,652 --> 01:05:28,122
- I was going to help
- the chimps if I could.
- 506
- 01:05:28,123 --> 01:05:32,859
- I couldn't watch an animal
- suffering anymore than I
- could watch a human suffering
- 507
- 01:05:32,860 --> 01:05:34,627
- and not help if I could.
- 508
- 01:05:34,628 --> 01:05:37,768
- I see no difference
- between helping a human
- and helping an animal.
- 509
- 01:05:40,768 --> 01:05:43,971
- I mean, yes we could
- have gone on and fed him
- everyday and kept him alive
- 510
- 01:05:43,972 --> 01:05:46,874
- for what reason?
- 511
- 01:05:46,875 --> 01:05:50,018
- To be honest, if that
- happens to me, I do not wish
- to be kept alive either.
- 512
- 01:05:56,018 --> 01:05:59,621
- Were you
- ever concerned that you
- might've carried it in?
- 513
- 01:06:00,621 --> 01:06:02,156
- -No.
- 514
- 01:06:02,157 --> 01:06:05,527
- The first examples of polio
- were not from our chimps.
- 515
- 01:06:06,527 --> 01:06:10,666
- They were way to the
- south, and that's where
- the human polio was.
- 516
- 01:06:11,666 --> 01:06:14,834
- So I didn't feel responsible
- for introducing it.
- 517
- 01:06:14,835 --> 01:06:19,541
- Although, for sure, it
- could pass on more because
- they were coming together.
- 518
- 01:06:20,541 --> 01:06:25,019
- But it didn't start
- with us which was very
- reassuring, actually.
- 519
- 01:06:32,019 --> 01:06:38,534
- After the incident, it
- was no longer permitted
- to touch the chimpanzees.
- 520
- 01:06:45,534 --> 01:06:50,547
- Gombe would never
- be quite the same.
- 521
- 01:06:59,547 --> 01:07:04,353
- ♪ ♪
- 522
- 01:07:05,353 --> 01:07:09,256
- I wanted nothing more than
- to be with the chimpanzees,
- and I made the decision
- 523
- 01:07:09,257 --> 01:07:12,695
- to spend more time in Gombe.
- 524
- 01:07:13,695 --> 01:07:16,796
- Grub stayed with me.
- 525
- 01:07:16,797 --> 01:07:20,235
- So in the morning, I
- would do analysis of
- data, administration,
- 526
- 01:07:21,235 --> 01:07:23,803
- that sort of thing.
- 527
- 01:07:23,804 --> 01:07:28,110
- Then I would spend about one
- to two hours up in a chimp
- camp with the students and
- 528
- 01:07:29,110 --> 01:07:33,546
- looking at the chimps.
- 529
- 01:07:33,547 --> 01:07:36,956
- And then every afternoon
- was his, totally.
- 530
- 01:07:40,956 --> 01:07:43,290
- And he
- loved chimpanzees?
- 531
- 01:07:43,291 --> 01:07:46,161
- - No, he did not.
- He hated them.
- 532
- 01:07:47,161 --> 01:07:50,969
- He's never loved chimpanzees.
- 533
- 01:07:57,172 --> 01:08:02,576
- I tried to homeschool him.
- 534
- 01:08:04,945 --> 01:08:08,851
- I felt a bit isolated
- at that time.
- 535
- 01:08:09,851 --> 01:08:13,087
- But there were always one
- or two students who would
- come along and provide
- 536
- 01:08:13,088 --> 01:08:18,194
- that sort of, you know,
- emotional support that I think
- sometimes is very important.
- 537
- 01:08:20,194 --> 01:08:25,770
- And of course Hugo was away
- somewhere else filming so he
- wasn't there to, to help.
- 538
- 01:08:28,770 --> 01:08:32,641
- I mean that was
- the deal, that was his work.
- 539
- 01:09:07,641 --> 01:09:13,091
- ♪ ♪
- 540
- 01:09:23,091 --> 01:09:28,073
- ♪ ♪
- 541
- 01:09:38,073 --> 01:09:43,921
- ♪ ♪
- 542
- 01:09:52,921 --> 01:09:58,430
- ♪ ♪
- 543
- 01:10:03,430 --> 01:10:06,604
- Flint was now an adolescent.
- 544
- 01:10:10,604 --> 01:10:14,216
- And old Flo, she was
- now a grandmother.
- 545
- 01:10:22,216 --> 01:10:25,887
- Fifi had an infant of her own.
- 546
- 01:10:26,887 --> 01:10:31,600
- A new generation of
- Flo's family to study.
- 547
- 01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:42,903
- But even though he was at
- an age, when most males begin
- to spend time away from their
- 548
- 01:10:42,904 --> 01:10:47,414
- mothers, Flint was
- still dependent on Flo.
- 549
- 01:10:53,414 --> 01:10:57,917
- By this time she must've
- been close to 50 years old.
- 550
- 01:10:57,918 --> 01:11:00,990
- But Flint insisted
- on riding her back.
- 551
- 01:11:02,990 --> 01:11:06,628
- Flint was still suckling.
- 552
- 01:11:07,628 --> 01:11:12,433
- Flo would push him away, and
- he cried, and he screamed,
- and he got very, very clingy
- 553
- 01:11:12,434 --> 01:11:14,275
- and very, very dependent.
- 554
- 01:11:21,275 --> 01:11:24,457
- She was too old to push
- him to independence.
- 555
- 01:11:35,457 --> 01:11:41,394
- You more than
- anyone knew the importance
- of socialization,
- 556
- 01:11:41,395 --> 01:11:44,332
- were you concerned about Grub?
- 557
- 01:11:45,332 --> 01:11:50,506
- -Well, Grub was school
- age, and I couldn't go on
- homeschooling him anymore.
- 558
- 01:11:52,506 --> 01:11:56,654
- So, it was decided that
- he would start school in
- England and live with Mom.
- 559
- 01:12:07,654 --> 01:12:12,559
- And I quite well remember
- when I had to leave him.
- 560
- 01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,533
- And how awful and
- betraying I felt.
- 561
- 01:12:18,533 --> 01:12:22,208
- But, it was better for Grub.
- 562
- 01:12:28,208 --> 01:12:31,579
- In Christmas and Spring,
- I went to the UK.
- 563
- 01:12:32,579 --> 01:12:36,189
- In the summer,
- he came out to Tanzania.
- 564
- 01:12:41,189 --> 01:12:45,528
- Back at Gombe
- now, Dr. Goodall, what kind
- of enterprise is it today?
- 565
- 01:12:46,528 --> 01:12:49,198
- - Well today, it's the Gombe
- Stream Research Center.
- 566
- 01:12:51,198 --> 01:12:56,068
- There are anything between
- six and twelve scientists
- working on different aspects
- 567
- 01:12:56,069 --> 01:12:58,572
- of chimp or baboon behavior.
- 568
- 01:12:58,573 --> 01:13:02,809
- And there are also students
- studying for their PhD degrees
- or doing postdoctoral work on
- 569
- 01:13:02,810 --> 01:13:06,580
- specific aspects
- of chimp behavior, which
- is you know, quite a big
- 570
- 01:13:06,581 --> 01:13:09,893
- little scientific community.
- 571
- 01:13:18,893 --> 01:13:23,740
- ♪ ♪
- 572
- 01:13:33,740 --> 01:13:39,423
- ♪ ♪
- 573
- 01:13:49,423 --> 01:13:55,341
- ♪ ♪
- 574
- 01:14:07,341 --> 01:14:11,518
- Flo died as she crossed
- the clear, fast-flowing
- Kokombe stream.
- 575
- 01:14:16,518 --> 01:14:19,051
- She looked so peaceful.
- 576
- 01:14:19,052 --> 01:14:22,127
- It was as if her heart had
- suddenly just stopped beating.
- 577
- 01:14:27,127 --> 01:14:31,140
- Flint sat on the bank of
- the stream near Flo's body.
- 578
- 01:14:39,140 --> 01:14:44,146
- From time to time he
- approached her as though
- begging her to groom him,
- 579
- 01:14:46,146 --> 01:14:49,029
- to comfort him as
- she had always done
- throughout his life.
- 580
- 01:15:02,029 --> 01:15:08,172
- ♪ ♪
- 581
- 01:15:12,172 --> 01:15:15,579
- Finally, Flint moved away.
- 582
- 01:15:18,579 --> 01:15:20,015
- His depression worsened.
- 583
- 01:15:21,015 --> 01:15:22,582
- He stopped eating.
- 584
- 01:15:22,583 --> 01:15:26,087
- He stayed mostly alone.
- 585
- 01:15:27,087 --> 01:15:30,930
- And in this state of
- grief, he fell sick.
- 586
- 01:15:36,930 --> 01:15:41,974
- It was as though without
- his mother, he no longer
- had the will to live.
- 587
- 01:15:45,974 --> 01:15:51,555
- And about three weeks after
- Flo died, Flint died too.
- 588
- 01:16:00,555 --> 01:16:05,569
- ♪ ♪
- 589
- 01:16:15,569 --> 01:16:20,261
- ♪ ♪
- 590
- 01:16:40,261 --> 01:16:46,433
- After the death of Flo,
- the chimpanzee community,
- whose members I had come to
- 591
- 01:16:46,434 --> 01:16:49,206
- know so well, began to divide.
- 592
- 01:16:52,206 --> 01:16:56,309
- As chimps of one group
- started to spend more time
- in the southern part of
- 593
- 01:16:56,310 --> 01:17:00,717
- the range over which the
- whole community roamed.
- 594
- 01:17:03,717 --> 01:17:08,621
- By separating themselves,
- it was as though they had
- forfeited their right to be
- 595
- 01:17:08,622 --> 01:17:12,828
- treated as community members.
- 596
- 01:17:13,828 --> 01:17:17,225
- Instead, they were
- treated as strangers.
- 597
- 01:18:04,177 --> 01:18:09,622
- Our idyllic world,
- our little paradise, had
- been turned upside down.
- 598
- 01:18:14,622 --> 01:18:19,626
- The once peaceful seeming
- chimpanzees were heavily
- engaged in what amounted to a
- 599
- 01:18:19,627 --> 01:18:22,198
- sort of primitive warfare.
- 600
- 01:18:24,198 --> 01:18:28,045
- The entire community that
- moved south was annihilated.
- 601
- 01:18:38,045 --> 01:18:42,215
- ♪ ♪
- 602
- 01:18:42,216 --> 01:18:44,251
- It must have
- been a very dark time for you.
- 603
- 01:18:44,252 --> 01:18:47,724
- It was a very,
- very dark time, it was.
- 604
- 01:18:49,724 --> 01:18:52,893
- I thought they were like
- us, but nicer than us.
- 605
- 01:18:52,894 --> 01:18:57,432
- I had no idea of the
- brutality that they can show.
- 606
- 01:18:59,432 --> 01:19:02,313
- Took me awhile to come
- to terms with that.
- 607
- 01:19:12,313 --> 01:19:17,654
- ♪ ♪
- 608
- 01:19:19,654 --> 01:19:24,859
- War had always seemed to me
- to be a purely human behavior.
- 609
- 01:19:25,859 --> 01:19:30,599
- I had come to accept that the
- dark and evil side of human
- nature was deeply embedded in
- 610
- 01:19:31,599 --> 01:19:36,646
- our genes, inherited from our
- ancient primate ancestors.
- 611
- 01:19:46,646 --> 01:19:51,188
- ♪ ♪
- 612
- 01:19:54,188 --> 01:19:58,394
- You and Hugo
- had been in different places.
- 613
- 01:20:00,394 --> 01:20:03,832
- Did you feel yourselves
- drifting apart?
- 614
- 01:20:04,832 --> 01:20:09,136
- -Well, you do drift apart
- when you're in two different
- places and you have
- 615
- 01:20:10,136 --> 01:20:13,574
- different goals in a way.
- 616
- 01:20:14,574 --> 01:20:19,381
- Hugo wasn't anymore
- content with just
- being at Gombe for me,
- 617
- 01:20:20,381 --> 01:20:24,661
- he needed to be in
- the Serengeti for him.
- 618
- 01:20:33,661 --> 01:20:38,442
- ♪ ♪
- 619
- 01:20:48,442 --> 01:20:54,082
- ♪ ♪
- 620
- 01:20:55,082 --> 01:20:59,251
- Were you
- struggling to try and keep
- the marriage together?
- 621
- 01:20:59,252 --> 01:21:04,193
- -Well for Grub's sake, but
- we'd begun bickering by then,
- and so you have to weigh up,
- 622
- 01:21:06,193 --> 01:21:10,801
- you know, is it better to stay
- together or to subject your
- child to constant bickering's.
- 623
- 01:21:13,801 --> 01:21:18,375
- He wanted me to leave
- Gombe, because there was no
- way he could stay and work,
- 624
- 01:21:21,375 --> 01:21:23,809
- but I couldn't.
- 625
- 01:21:23,810 --> 01:21:27,161
- It was my life, and he had his.
- 626
- 01:21:40,161 --> 01:21:44,067
- During the trying time of my
- divorce, it was all very sad.
- 627
- 01:21:46,067 --> 01:21:49,404
- Especially for Grub, for
- he of course loved us both.
- 628
- 01:21:51,404 --> 01:21:55,680
- But I realized that my
- experience in the forest
- had given me perspective.
- 629
- 01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:05,188
- In the forest, death
- is not hidden; it's all
- around you, all the time.
- 630
- 01:22:07,188 --> 01:22:10,792
- A part of the endless
- cycle of life.
- 631
- 01:22:11,792 --> 01:22:16,100
- Chimpanzees are born,
- they grow older, they
- get sick, and they die.
- 632
- 01:22:19,100 --> 01:22:23,940
- And always there are the
- young ones that carry on
- the life of the species.
- 633
- 01:22:26,940 --> 01:22:31,512
- Louis Leakey sent me to Gombe
- with the hope that a better
- understanding of chimpanzee
- 634
- 01:22:32,512 --> 01:22:36,952
- behavior might provide us
- with a window on our past.
- 635
- 01:22:37,952 --> 01:22:41,955
- Our study of the chimpanzees
- had helped to pinpoint not
- only the similarities between
- 636
- 01:22:41,956 --> 01:22:46,128
- them and us, but also
- those ways in which
- we are most different.
- 637
- 01:22:48,128 --> 01:22:53,467
- Admittedly, we're not the only
- beings with personalities,
- reasoning powers, altruism,
- 638
- 01:22:54,467 --> 01:23:00,143
- and emotions, nor are we the
- only beings capable of mental
- as well as physical suffering.
- 639
- 01:23:02,143 --> 01:23:06,712
- But our intellect has grown
- mightily in complexity since
- the first true men branched
- 640
- 01:23:06,713 --> 01:23:11,885
- off from the ape men's stalk
- some two million years ago.
- 641
- 01:23:11,886 --> 01:23:16,059
- And we, and only we, have
- developed a sophisticated
- spoken language.
- 642
- 01:23:18,059 --> 01:23:22,528
- For the first time in
- evolution, a species evolved
- that was able to teach its
- 643
- 01:23:22,529 --> 01:23:27,399
- young about objects
- and events not present,
- to pass on wisdom gleaned
- 644
- 01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:31,907
- from the successes and
- the mistakes of the past.
- 645
- 01:23:32,907 --> 01:23:38,243
- With language we can ask
- as can no other living being,
- those questions about who we
- 646
- 01:23:38,244 --> 01:23:41,246
- are and why we are here.
- 647
- 01:23:41,247 --> 01:23:46,086
- And this highly developed
- intellect means surely, that
- we have a responsibility
- 648
- 01:23:46,087 --> 01:23:50,590
- towards the other life forms
- of our planet, whose continued
- existence is threatened by the
- 649
- 01:23:50,591 --> 01:23:54,770
- thoughtless behavior of
- our own human species.
- 650
- 01:24:03,770 --> 01:24:09,880
- ♪ ♪
- 651
- 01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,447
- My life, the time, was perfect.
- 652
- 01:24:15,448 --> 01:24:18,054
- I was spending
- time in the field,
- I was writing a book,
- 653
- 01:24:20,054 --> 01:24:24,095
- I had students so the
- research was secure and
- I could be with my son.
- 654
- 01:24:28,095 --> 01:24:30,095
- Who's my life for
- the rest of my life?
- 655
- 01:24:30,096 --> 01:24:33,604
- It was better than
- anything I dreamed of.
- 656
- 01:24:36,604 --> 01:24:40,076
- But I knew that
- the chimpanzees across
- Africa were disappearing.
- 657
- 01:24:42,076 --> 01:24:46,948
- So that's when I realized that
- I had to raise awareness about
- the plight of chimps in Africa
- 658
- 01:24:48,948 --> 01:24:53,920
- and the role that I must
- play is to make sure that
- the next generation are
- 659
- 01:24:53,921 --> 01:24:57,426
- better stewards than we've been.
- 660
- 01:24:59,426 --> 01:25:04,167
- And I needed to take that
- message to the world.
- 661
- 01:25:06,167 --> 01:25:11,805
- And since that time, which
- was October 1986, I haven't
- been more than three weeks
- 662
- 01:25:12,805 --> 01:25:16,948
- consecutively in any one place.
- 663
- 01:25:38,865 --> 01:25:44,585
- ♪ ♪
- 664
- 01:25:57,585 --> 01:26:02,899
- ♪ ♪
- 665
- 01:26:11,899 --> 01:26:17,680
- ♪ ♪
- 666
- 01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,725
- ♪ ♪
- 667
- 01:26:38,725 --> 01:26:42,198
- When I look back over my
- life, it seems I've been
- extraordinarily lucky.
- 668
- 01:26:45,198 --> 01:26:49,407
- Although as my mother
- Vanne always says, luck
- was only part of the story.
- 669
- 01:26:53,407 --> 01:26:58,279
- She's always believed
- that success comes through
- determination and hard work
- 670
- 01:26:59,279 --> 01:27:03,086
- and that the fault is not
- in our stars, but in ourselves
- that we are underlings.
- 671
- 01:27:06,086 --> 01:27:09,090
- I certainly believe that's true.
- 672
- 01:27:10,090 --> 01:27:15,161
- Yet though I had worked hard
- all my life, I must admit
- that the stars seemed to have
- 673
- 01:27:15,162 --> 01:27:19,493
- played their part too.
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