[21:45] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Hey how come you forfeited?
[21:45] Krytocon: I’m running fire and grass moves lol
[21:45] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Grass moves on Zard Y?
[21:45] Krytocon: Yeah
[21:45] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Besides Solar Beam.
[21:45] +Shuu Tsukiyama: ?
[21:45] Krytocon: Solar beam
[21:45] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Oh wait you're running 3 fire moves?
[21:46] Krytocon: Fcharge, willo, bburn
[21:46] +Shuu Tsukiyama: ooo will-o-wisp...
[21:46] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Does that ever come in handy?
[21:46] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Also does Flame Charge come in handy? Mine has that but I've neveru sed it.
[21:46] Krytocon: It beats gyara
[21:46] Krytocon: and fcharge helps with pluff
[21:46] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Zard Y beats Gyarados anyway.
[21:46] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Well.
[21:46] Krytocon: Not necessarily
[21:46] +Shuu Tsukiyama: ~50% of the time.
[21:47] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Mine has Air Slash.
[21:47] +Shuu Tsukiyama: FCharge, Air Slash, Blast Burn, Solar Beam.
[21:47] +Shuu Tsukiyama: How does Flame Charge help against Jumpluff? I'm new to the meta, only played like 28 games.
[21:48] Krytocon: You break their sub and orsoeed
[21:48] Krytocon: outpseed*
[21:49] Krytocon: The whole set on my zard is designed to beat mgyara 100%
[21:49] +Shuu Tsukiyama: I fucking hate versing Mega Gyarados haha.
[21:49] Krytocon: Yeah its one of the best in the tier
[21:49] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Hmm so I'm reading the set for Jumpluff...
[21:49] +Shuu Tsukiyama: You need to Flame charge on the turn you wake up yeah?
[21:49] Krytocon: Yeah its a sleep leech seed staller
[21:49] Krytocon: Yeah
[21:50] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Ahh OK that's helpful.
[21:50] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Though I haven't versed one yet.
[21:50] +Shuu Tsukiyama: According to the stats Jumpluff is #40.
[21:50] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Maybe it's better to use WoW instead.
[21:50] Krytocon: Yeah its pretty used
[21:50] Krytocon: wow is only used in the mgyara matchup
[21:51] Krytocon: I can grab the set that 100% beats gyara
[21:51] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Yeah but Jumpluff is used 1.8% of the time vs. 14% of MGyarados.
[21:51] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Sure!
[21:51] Krytocon: Its also evd for greninja which is another common threat
[21:51] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Oh sweet, I was actually planning to EV for that sothis is helpful.
[21:52] Krytocon: https://pokepast.es/5afa7970edb918e1
[21:52] Krytocon: Swap out flame charge for air slash depending on the team
[21:52] +Shuu Tsukiyama: https://pokepast.es/6d6f0be4b23cd7bb
[21:52] +Shuu Tsukiyama: This is the current team
[21:53] Krytocon: Yeah id say run air slash over flame charge on that team
[21:54] +Shuu Tsukiyama: OK cool.
[21:54] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Wow
[21:54] +Shuu Tsukiyama: you've played 15000 games.
[21:54] Krytocon: Since you have 4x se ice shard for pluff
[21:54] Krytocon: wait
[21:54] Krytocon: ok I’m addicted to 1v1 xd
[21:55] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Yeah can tell huh :P
[21:55] +Shuu Tsukiyama: We'll be spending the next month in the Wi-Fi room doing 1v1 for all our Tours (battling) stuff so I figured I might try to learn the meta.
[21:55] +Shuu Tsukiyama: It's quite interesting.
[21:56] Krytocon: Yeah we got a decent meta in 1v1
[21:56] Krytocon: the best thing is everything can be viable
[21:56] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Yes I really like stuff like that.
[21:56] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Off-meta viable stuff is always really awesome to me.
[21:56] Krytocon: So like for example i use sylveon to great effect
[21:57] Krytocon: and it actually works
[21:57] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Oh really?
[21:57] Krytocon: Yeah
[21:58] Krytocon: Theres a ridiculous amount of stuff you can do and it just works
[21:58] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Cool cool...
[21:59] +Shuu Tsukiyama: See I won our VGC tournaments last year because of shit like
[21:59] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Psych Up Lunala and Ally Switch Stakataka.
[21:59] Krytocon: So our meta is really interesting
[21:59] +Shuu Tsukiyama: So cool stuff like that is my favourite.
[21:59] Krytocon: bc you see literally anything
[21:59] Krytocon: yeah stuff that you don’t expect to work but does
[21:59] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Yeah.
[22:00] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Do you mind if I ask another question?
[22:00] Krytocon: Sure
[22:00] +Shuu Tsukiyama: I literally have only played today so I know little (literally 28 matches), but this Jirachi unban.
[22:00] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Jirachi sounds cancerous, but is it really that big of a deal?
[22:01] Krytocon: The whole thing is about uncompetitiveness rather than the fact is actually broken
[22:02] Krytocon: And the fact we have a suspect rn is bc it was suspected before and voted to not be banned but then council banned it
[22:02] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Oh so the vote you guys had didn't even matter in the end?
[22:03] Krytocon: Well we voted very closely but i wasnt actually round at the time so youd be better asking someone who was
[22:03] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Ohh OK.
[22:03] +Shuu Tsukiyama: So basically, it's kind of scummy to use, and that's why it was banned?
[22:04] Krytocon: Yeah. Like z detect it basically brings in a luck factor thats too large to reliably beat
[22:04] +Shuu Tsukiyama: So why would it be considered for an unban then?
[22:04] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Too easy to beat?
[22:05] Krytocon: I believe its being considered for unban because council was very hasty in banning it even when suspect showed we didnt want it banned
[22:07] +Shuu Tsukiyama: I see OK.
[22:07] +Shuu Tsukiyama: What are your thoughts on it?
[22:07] Krytocon: I think it should probably stay banned because it brings the whole matchup down to luck not skill
[22:08] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Would the counter-argument be what Kaif☆彡Plays is saying?
[22:09] Krytocon: Yeah pretty much and that there are solid 100% counters to it like inner focus/just being faster
[22:13] Krytocon: But being forced to run a rachi counter just so you don’t have to rely on luck to win also restricts teambuilding
[22:13] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Yeah I don't like stuff like that.
[22:13] Krytocon: Yeah
[22:14] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Hmm. I don't really have an opinion.
[22:14] +Shuu Tsukiyama: But it's interesting to think about.
[22:14] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Thanks for the help btw. Maybe I'll hit you up later? :D
[22:14] Krytocon: Yeah since you’re pretty new to the meta
[22:15] Krytocon: yeah I’m always happy to help with teambuilding or anything if I’m online
[22:15] +Shuu Tsukiyama: Awesome thank you. Have a good one.