Blightborne and brigands play kinda differently basically blightborne guarantees you hit hard kinda brigands guarantees you get to hit in AR. Ultimately it doesn’t change much but basically if you play for resets you roll a lot for buffs outside of flurry cuz rolling is energy positive. Broadsides becomes better in aoe etc, you’re trying to reset ar the moment your AR ends basically
Divers snapshots your damage so you want to be a hit more conservative with blade flurry charges basically
So if you end a flurry with 2 cp and no pistol build to 6 before you flurry again that kinda thing
You space out your flurries to maximize the chance you can flurry if you see divers proc
Like arguably that’s the right way to play to begin with but it just enforces it
Basically just be houghtful about your damage profile and you’ll be good

DeminithYesterday at 11:28 PM
ok gotcha
1 last thing, what do you mean "frontloading your damage"?

Lettuce HuntYesterday at 11:33 PM
like your burst comes from bte
if you play deeper + ace
so if you do a pull flurry and hit bte then you've done most of your damage basically

DeminithYesterday at 11:34 PM
gotcha. one thing I do a lot is fish for buffs at the end of a pull
so my last cast is usually a roll

Lettuce HuntYesterday at 11:35 PM
try not to make your last cast just a raw roll

DeminithYesterday at 11:35 PM
so i have 0-1 CP at the start of the next pull

Lettuce HuntYesterday at 11:35 PM
more like roll + some sinisters
cuz the fastest your damage comes out the better
the more combo points you have the sooner you can blade flurry
you really shouldn't flurry until you can finish with how wits is now
because your sinisters early in flurry are big garbage

DeminithYesterday at 11:36 PM
yeah ive heard mixed things.
some rogues say dont flurry until
you have full CPs and a proc

Lettuce HuntYesterday at 11:36 PM
it depends really

DeminithYesterday at 11:36 PM
some say flurry on pull

Lettuce HuntYesterday at 11:37 PM
okay that's not necessariy correct eitehr

DeminithYesterday at 11:37 PM
because if you dont youre missing flurry casts

Lettuce HuntYesterday at 11:37 PM
like you don't want to spend like 7-8 globals setting up
but you have a lot of like, room with flurry
cuz at the end of a pull it's like, you basically have expended most of your flurry charges
lets say you're completely tapped on flurries, you've got 35 seconds where you're getting flurry charges right
so as long as you don't cap flurry charges
you're not gonna lose any

DeminithYesterday at 11:39 PM
so, how do you front load your damage if you dont flurry on pull?
Oh i get it
you make sure you have enough CPs for a finisher
flurry
finish
sinister strike
or, flurry. ambush, finisher, sinister
1 last thing I promise
do you ever hold you BtE
at the end of a pull
so you can open with it?

Lettuce HuntYesterday at 11:57 PM
yeah
pretty much always
if you have a mob with like 400k hp and you don't have to beat a cast or something
should just keep rolling or if you have a good buff just dispatch
you're trying to bank a pistol proc and a bte to open with in flurry usually

DeminithYesterday at 11:59 PM
You'll still flurry without a proc though if you have enough CPs for a finisher right?
cuz you get ambush and the finisher to stack wits before using SS

Lettuce HuntToday at 12:01 AM
you shouldn't hold flurry for the proc
like
it's like from situation to situation

DeminithToday at 12:01 AM
yeah but generally

Lettuce HuntToday at 12:02 AM
generally your main condition to flurry is probably 2?ish globals where you don't sinister
just so you get at least like 5-6 wits stack so it's 50/50 whether your sinister sucks balls or not
basically after you finish at 5 or 6 you have a cp right
so if you win the 50/50
then you have a pistol to 5 or 6
depending on if you got 1 or 2 form passive

DeminithToday at 12:03 AM
and then youre guarnteed procs basically

Lettuce HuntToday at 12:03 AM
then you hit dispatch and then you're good
yeah
but if you open in flurry at like 2 cp no proc
then you can potentially sinister for like 4 globals
at that point why not just sinister outside of flurry
so as to not waste it
basically

DeminithToday at 12:05 AM
well I appreciate the help, Sub. I work on ending pulls with enough CPs for a finisher. I think im still iffy on the blightborne/Blitz thing and how to play each. Initially I thought the proper way to play AR was to press it as soon as it lights up provided youll get most of the full duration of it
Is there anywhere I can go to find this info? id like to decide which to play and how to best use them but apparently Ravenholdt is useless

Lettuce HuntToday at 12:06 AM
idk most of this info just comes from talking with other rogues tbh
like keep in mind that at the end of the day gear/traits etc like barely matter to a large extent
you can play the wildest shit and still pump
like there was a few keys my boy rawr was literally playing loaded dice with marked for death
and in a three outlaw group of me playing ds alacrity, another friend playing vigor, we all did the same damage
with less than 1k dps variance
basically just work on maximizing your uptime and doing the outlaw jobs and your dps just kinda improves itself
and lots of it is just how tanks pull anyway

DeminithToday at 12:10 AM
Okay I guess the one burning question I have is, if you dont reroll good buffs, and you rarely ever, if ever at all, reroll during flurry, then how do you "play BB" in the sense of rolling outside of flurry?
cuz if youre not in flurry youre always just rolling for good buffs and not rerolling the good ones
like what changes

Lettuce HuntToday at 12:10 AM
you can roll during flurry instead of dispatching when you're late in the flurry
cuz you don't really impact your dps much if you have a bad buff and you do one roll instead of one dispatch
dispatch crits for what like 40k?
50k?
yeah it's like a decent amount of damage but if you have like skull bones for example
and you roll broadsides instead of dispatching