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  1. [14:04:59] +DracoMaster LANCE: I'm not sure if that item is worth using, actually.
  2. [14:05:02] Diana Might: What about Giratina-A?
  3. [14:05:08] +DracoMaster LANCE: But Ho-Oh seems like its most practical user.
  4. [14:05:15] +haruno: gira-a is still weak
  5. [14:05:15] Shaymin 492: yeah
  6. [14:05:18] Diana Might: or a random multiscale lugia
  7. [14:05:20] +DracoMaster LANCE: Nope, Giratina-A needs Leftovers.
  8. [14:05:33] +DracoMaster LANCE: Lugia is better off walling/spreading status/using Defog.
  9. [14:05:45] Shaymin 492: Weakness policy Ho-oh will be good I think
  10. [14:05:54] Shaymin 492: with the defog buff
  11. [14:05:58] +DracoMaster LANCE: I'd probably stick with Life Orb though.
  12. [14:06:01] Diana Might: Rest-talk giratina-a might be cool with weakness policy
  13. [14:06:59] Diana Might: Can Hooh tank a full power specs water spout in the sun? Cause that's what is likely to hit it
  14. [14:07:09] +DracoMaster LANCE: Yes, it can.
  15. [14:07:17] +DracoMaster LANCE: But it'll most likely be outrun,
  16. [14:07:22] Diana Might: Damn, that bulky
  17. [14:07:24] +DracoMaster LANCE: so it just dies on the next turn anyway.
  18. [14:07:29] +DracoMaster LANCE: Even if it outruns Kyogre,
  19. [14:07:35] Diana Might: BB kills
  20. [14:07:36] +DracoMaster LANCE: it'll die to Brave Bird recoil.
  21. [14:07:38] +DracoMaster LANCE: Yeah.
  22. [14:08:01] +DracoMaster LANCE: But with Weakness Policy,
  23. [14:08:14] +DracoMaster LANCE: I am more thinking of Ho-Oh switching into Scarfed Surfs.
  24. [14:08:23] +DracoMaster LANCE: Works best with a specially-defensive Groudon,
  25. [14:08:37] +DracoMaster LANCE: as teams that use it are the most likely to be able to get Kyogre out in the Sun.
  26. [14:08:53] Diana Might: could work
  27. [14:09:41] +haruno: gen 6 seems less brain dead
  28. [14:09:43] +haruno: even for ou
  29. [14:09:52] +haruno: you can't just run the same cookie cutter teams to win
  30. [14:09:52] +DracoMaster LANCE: I agree.
  31. [14:09:57] +DracoMaster LANCE: BW2 Ubers was boring.
  32. [14:10:04] +DracoMaster LANCE: Once you reach the highest level, that is.
  33. [14:10:21] +haruno: there will be a ton of different strats now
  34. [14:10:38] +DracoMaster LANCE: Extreme Killer Arceus, Groudon/Ho-Oh/Espeon, entry hazards, etc.
  35. [14:10:43] +DracoMaster LANCE: That's really all it was.
  36. [14:10:47] +DracoMaster LANCE: Yeah, true.
  37. [14:10:55] +DracoMaster LANCE: I'm liking Mega Scizor a lot.
  38. [14:11:05] +DracoMaster LANCE: It checks Xerneas + Arceus-Normal, which is awesome.
  39. [14:15:01] +DracoMaster LANCE: Hmm...
  40. [14:15:21] +DracoMaster LANCE: Arceus with Refresh, Defog, Recover, and Judgment/a status move.
  41. [14:15:24] +DracoMaster LANCE: Thoughts?
  42. [14:15:43] +DracoMaster LANCE: Or just use Arceus-Steel/Poison so you can't get Toxiced by entry hazard users.
  43. [14:15:50] +haruno: support ceus has always been one of my favorites
  44. [14:15:56] +DracoMaster LANCE: And save up the Defog slot.
  45. [14:16:28] +DracoMaster LANCE: In Generation V, I liked support Arceus up until the point when I realized that Will-O-Wisp sucked.
  46. [14:16:35] +DracoMaster LANCE: But with Defog, I'm liking it once again.
  47. [14:16:44] +haruno: WoW has always sucked
  48. [14:16:58] +haruno: even though it got a "buff"
  49. [14:17:06] +haruno: zarel will prolly screw with % again lol
  50. [14:17:29] +DracoMaster LANCE: Eh, Toxic/Blue Flare/Fire Blast have annoying accuracy issues,
  51. [14:17:40] +DracoMaster LANCE: but I'd say they're actually bearable compared to Will-O-Wisp.
  52. [14:17:56] +haruno: WoW misses tend to be more decisive however
  53. [14:18:06] +haruno: anything under 100% seems to miss alot for me so ehs
  54. [14:18:10] +DracoMaster LANCE: True.
  55. [14:18:22] +DracoMaster LANCE: That's why I've long stopped using Will-O-Wisp on any team.
  56. [14:19:09] +haruno: The problem I have with stall is it'll have a harder time racking up passive damage without hazards
  57. [14:19:24] +haruno: and aromatherapy/heal bell instantly beats status stall.
  58. [14:19:31] +DracoMaster LANCE: This might make Melee Mewtwo quit, haha.
  59. [14:20:19] +haruno: I still think galvantula will be relatively solid though
  60. [14:20:54] +DracoMaster LANCE: In any case, I am almost completely certain that I'll be using Defog in pretty much every team of mine.
  61. [14:21:06] +DracoMaster LANCE: So Sticky Web won't bother me.
  62. [14:21:44] +haruno: hmm.
  63. [14:22:51] +haruno: aegislash/xerneas/steelceus/ho oh/palkia/gene seems like a solid team at a glance
  64. [14:23:08] Pasadena: Anyone have the link the the updated stats page on Serebii? No clue how to navigate the site...
  65. [14:23:41] +haruno: hazards will drop
  66. [14:23:42] +DracoMaster LANCE: If you put Stone Edge on Arceus-Steel and/or Palkia, then yes :)
  67. [14:23:48] +haruno: with any luck
  68. [14:23:49] +DracoMaster LANCE: It's too weak to Ho-Oh otherwise.
  69. [14:23:51] +haruno: zard will hit ou
  70. [14:25:40] Diana Might: What is the matter with the ladder/ratings?
  71. [14:26:23] Diana Might: Just now, my rating changed from 0->0 after a match, lol
  72. [14:27:42] +DracoMaster LANCE: Your deviation is too low.
  73. [14:28:16] Diana Might: No, not like that
  74. [14:28:25] Diana Might: Just take a look at my current match
  75. [14:28:33] Shaymin 492: it does that for everyone I think
  76. [14:28:45] +DracoMaster LANCE: OK, that's strange then.
  77. [14:28:46] Shaymin 492: the ladder is pretty messed up atm
  78. [14:29:24] Diana Might: :D, I though Zarel was fixing the ladder or something
  79. [14:29:43] mr optic merk: instead of fixing it, he $#%& it up
  80. [14:30:05] Diana Might: It's most likely a server problem
  81. [14:31:50] mr optic merk: you can't even view the leaderboards
  82. [14:32:02] mr optic merk: and before i logged in, i had a bunch of issues
  83. [14:32:11] mr optic merk: i couldn't log in but this time, it worked
  84. [14:32:20] Diana Might: Yeah, so did I
  85. [14:32:55] mr optic merk: time to make a team that counters everything
  86. [14:37:34] mr optic merk: i think they could make the teambuilder run faster if they removed everything that is neverused (scratch, tackle) and if troll wants to use it, they would need to manually type it in.
  87. [14:38:18] mr optic merk: like if i'm making an OU team, don't have any ubers or magikarps/mudkipz in the list
  88. [14:43:01] BUCKLE YOUR PANTS: good thought
  89. [15:38:14] +haruno: whoa serebii is wrong
  90. [15:38:17] +haruno: for once
  91. [15:42:05] mr optic merk: they're always wrong
  92. [15:42:27] mr optic merk: back in the day, they spelt outrage with double t
  93. [16:27:35] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: my god
  94. [16:27:38] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: these login problems
  95. [16:42:10] InfernoWolves: A 8 Man Uber Tourney!!!!! http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/26mrkMwM5g (Approved by Agilan) Slots left = 3
  96. [16:42:23] InfernoWolves: sorry if it bothers you
  97. [16:47:21] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: serebii is almost never wrong its scary
  98. [16:47:33] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: where did all the mods go O_O
  99. [16:51:39] #DICE: they died
  100. [16:51:41] #DICE: fuck thep olice
  101. [16:54:12] #DICE: +DracoMaster LANCE: BW2 Ubers was boring.
  102. [16:54:13] #DICE: +DracoMaster LANCE: Once you reach the highest level, that is.
  103. [16:54:14] #DICE: +DracoMaster LANCE: Extreme Killer Arceus, Groudon/Ho-Oh/Espeon, entry hazards, etc.
  104. [16:54:21] #DICE: u always find a way to make me laugh once a day lance
  105. [16:54:23] #DICE: thank 4 tht
  106. [16:54:28] #DICE: thanks*
  107. [16:58:59] +DracoMaster LANCE: Well excuuuuse me, princess.
  108. [16:59:06] +DracoMaster LANCE: I'd say the exact same thing to you.
  109. [16:59:14] @doneky: LMAO
  110. [16:59:19] +DracoMaster LANCE: The higher the position on which one stands, the more they can see.
  111. [16:59:23] @doneky: champion lance 10/10 troll
  112. [16:59:51] +DracoMaster LANCE: Anyone who fails to see what can only be seen from the highest position in the world of competitive Pokémon...
  113. [17:00:05] +DracoMaster LANCE: ...the position occupied by I, the Greatest Pokémon Master...
  114. [17:00:11] +DracoMaster LANCE: ...is truly laughable to my eyes.
  115. [17:00:28] +DracoMaster LANCE: Thank you very much, doneky.
  116. [17:00:55] +DracoMaster LANCE: I'm glad to see someone actually successful at recognizing me as the one true Great Pokémon Master :)
  117. [17:15:45] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: DAYUMMM
  118. [17:15:53] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: +DracoMaster LANCE: Well excuuuuse me, princess.
  119. [17:15:54] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: +DracoMaster LANCE: I'd say the exact same thing to you.
  120. [17:18:13] +DracoMaster LANCE: Ah.
  121. [17:18:21] +DracoMaster LANCE: I take it you're a Legend of Zelda fan?
  122. [17:18:32] Aurora: nice circlejerk
  123. [17:19:08] +DracoMaster LANCE: What are you referring to?
  124. [17:19:12] +DracoMaster LANCE: The IDM clan?
  125. [17:19:12] Aurora: the above
  126. [17:19:14] +DracoMaster LANCE: Of course.
  127. [17:19:17] Aurora: no
  128. [17:19:19] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: ?
  129. [17:19:27] • +DracoMaster JUSTIN is confused
  130. [17:20:36] +DracoMaster LANCE: Good to see that the Übers thread on Serebii has been revived, in any case.
  131. [17:20:51] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: yea thank god
  132. [17:21:00] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: there was nothing to talk about b4 6th gen
  133. [17:21:10] +DracoMaster LANCE: Indeed.
  134. [17:22:51] @Frizy: aurora sucks
  135. [17:23:47] @Frizy: dr also sucks though
  136. [17:24:02] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: wats dr
  137. [17:24:38] +DracoMaster LANCE: Of course. Something that doesn't even exist anymore can't possibly not suck.
  138. [17:24:39] @Frizy: arent dr and dm the same
  139. [17:24:42] @Frizy: w/e
  140. [17:24:47] @Frizy: i dont keep up with clans much lol
  141. [17:24:54] +DracoMaster LANCE: Tsk, tsk tsk.
  142. [17:24:58] +DracoMaster LANCE: How little do you know...
  143. [17:25:07] @Frizy: i guess
  144. [17:25:15] @Frizy: there is a lot to know in this world
  145. [17:25:30] @Frizy: a lot of it is irrelevancies though
  146. [17:25:33] @Frizy: see: pokemon clans
  147. [17:25:57] +DracoMaster LANCE: There is indeed a lot to know in this world... for one of your level of intelligence, that is.
  148. DracoMaster LANCE was muted by doneky for 7 minutes.
  149. [17:26:25] @doneky: no insulting users
  150. [17:26:31] @doneky: esp moderators.
  151. [17:26:42] DracoMaster LANCE: (Private to doneky) And yet, insulting clans is OK?
  152. [17:26:42] @Frizy: yea thats mean
  153. [17:26:47] #shrang: lol
  154. [17:26:49] @Frizy: ty doneky
  155. [17:27:12] @Frizy: just out of curiousity
  156. [17:27:23] @Frizy: were you guys the same people who played on the po dw ladder back when it was semi-alive
  157. [17:27:32] @Frizy: or was that a different part of dm/dr
  158. [17:27:37] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: i dont know.
  159. [17:27:49] @doneky: ya that was them
  160. [17:27:57] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: im a elatively new dm member
  161. [17:27:59] @doneky: they all got banned on po
  162. [17:28:01] DracoMaster LANCE: (Private to @shrang) I get demoted for insulting Frizy,
  163. [17:28:03] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: LUL!
  164. [17:28:04] @doneky: and then migrated to smogon
  165. [17:28:05] @Frizy: same people exactly?
  166. [17:28:09] @doneky: basically
  167. [17:28:09] Butt's Wife: lol
  168. [17:28:10] DracoMaster LANCE: (Private to @shrang) and yet Frizy doesn't get demoted for insulting a clan?
  169. [17:28:10] athena cykes: http://puu.sh/3HM9i
  170. [17:28:17] Butt's Wife: ooh
  171. [17:28:20] DracoMaster LANCE: (Private to @shrang) What kind of bias is this?
  172. [17:28:24] Butt's Wife: an AA fan
  173. [17:28:25] Butt's Wife: :)
  174. [17:28:30] @Frizy: i remember them collectively accusing me of ladder boosting when i hit #1
  175. [17:28:38] @Frizy: good times
  176. [17:29:05] @doneky: i remember catching sasha boosting the wifi uber ladder, reporting it, and getting him banned
  177. [17:29:11] @doneky: until the mods pity unbanned him
  178. [17:29:12] @doneky: good times
  179. [17:29:21] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: whats ladder boosting
  180. [17:29:31] Butt's Wife: i got to one on smogon PO ubers ladder with a RBY ingame team
  181. [17:29:33] @Frizy: getting people to quit for you on ladder
  182. [17:29:41] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: oh pfft.
  183. [17:29:42] @doneky: you can't do it on ps, but on po you can set variation to like 100
  184. [17:29:44] @Frizy: to boost rank
  185. [17:29:45] @doneky: and play vs friends
  186. [17:29:46] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: ?
  187. [17:29:47] @doneky: and get them to forfeit
  188. [17:29:49] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: oh
  189. [17:30:04] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: i didnt know that
  190. [17:30:11] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: but i doubt lance or sasha would do that
  191. [17:30:16] Butt's Wife: lol
  192. [17:30:20] @doneky: i had screenshot proof
  193. [17:30:24] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: sasha did that apparently o_o
  194. [17:30:27] #shrang: I remember there was quite a prominent clan on PO that heavily boosted on the PO OU ladder in early BW
  195. [17:30:27] @doneky: i can guarantee you that sasha did that
  196. [17:30:32] Butt's Wife: you obviously don't know the dick you're sucking
  197. [17:30:39] Butt's Wife: DR or w/e
  198. [17:30:43] Butt's Wife: is run by complete scum
  199. [17:30:51] #shrang: be civil please
  200. [17:31:03] @doneky: rather, be subtle
  201. [17:31:05] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: yes thank you.
  202. [17:31:20] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: why all the hate on DM?
  203. [17:31:26] #shrang: civil is just another word for subtle lol
  204. [17:31:36] #shrang: politics is just war without violence
  205. [17:31:55] Butt's Wife: at any rate
  206. [17:32:07] @doneky: white people are just black people with different color melanin
  207. [17:32:29] #shrang: more like black people with less melanin
  208. [17:32:33] @doneky: who areall these people
  209. [17:32:33] @Frizy: and less thirst for kfc/watermelon
  210. [17:32:35] @doneky: talktakestime
  211. [17:32:37] @doneky: and frizy
  212. [17:32:49] GreatStunfisk: i'm white and love KFC
  213. [17:32:51] Butt's Wife: lol
  214. [17:33:04] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: im asian and hate kfc *_*
  215. [17:33:29] GreatStunfisk: frizy is the most masculine man on PS
  216. [17:33:38] DracoMaster LANCE: [17:31:20] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: why all the hate on DM?
  217. [17:33:41] DracoMaster LANCE: Don't worry, Justin.
  218. [17:33:57] DracoMaster LANCE: There is no need to attempt to understand why the people at Smogon hate Dragon Masters.
  219. [17:34:01] butt's wife: rip PTR's boice
  220. [17:34:03] butt's wife: voice
  221. [17:34:07] butt's wife: we knew ye well
  222. [17:34:16] #shrang: "They can't stand the Truth that is great Pokemon Trainer Lance"
  223. [17:34:19] #shrang: yadda yadda
  224. [17:34:20] #shrang: we know
  225. [17:34:23] DracoMaster LANCE: Because trying to understand why they do that is to assume that they have a reason to hate us in the first place.
  226. [17:34:29] butt's wife: lel
  227. [17:34:46] @Frizy: i feel as though a comma should've been in there somewhere
  228. [17:34:47] +haruno: wait
  229. [17:34:48] DracoMaster LANCE: But the pathetic insects that occupy the Smogon community do not actually need reasons to hold any belief.
  230. [17:34:50] @TalkTakesTime: doneky, I'm a global PS mod
  231. [17:34:52] butt's wife: apart from the fact that you're a mediocre player that thinks he's the best player on the internet
  232. [17:34:52] @Frizy: oh nvm
  233. [17:34:55] @doneky: oh ok
  234. [17:34:58] @doneky: was just curious
  235. [17:35:07] @Frizy: lance
  236. [17:35:07] @TalkTakesTime: that's cool
  237. [17:35:08] DracoMaster LANCE: If the people of Smogon were to see and hear a man screaming in front of them...
  238. [17:35:09] butt's wife: why else should we like you?
  239. [17:35:13] @Frizy: did you play on the po dream world ladder
  240. [17:35:14] @TalkTakesTime: I don't expect many people to know me
  241. [17:35:23] butt's wife: TTT is nice because he took his lel clause script off
  242. [17:35:24] butt's wife: :)
  243. [17:35:27] DracoMaster LANCE: ...then despite what their senses of hearing and sight tell them,
  244. [17:35:40] @TalkTakesTime: actually butt's wife, I just am using a different computer for the moment
  245. [17:35:41] GreatStunfisk: TTT ilu
  246. [17:35:46] @TalkTakesTime: and was too lazy to re-add it
  247. [17:35:48] butt's wife: o
  248. [17:35:48] @Frizy: lance answer me man
  249. [17:35:50] butt's wife: lol
  250. [17:35:50] DracoMaster LANCE: there would still be no guarantee that they would be led to hold the belief that there is a man screaming in front of them.
  251. [17:35:56] butt's wife: that script was infuriating though :(
  252. [17:35:58] @TalkTakesTime: ilu2 GreatStunfisk :>
  253. [17:36:04] @TalkTakesTime: butt's wife, try being imanalt
  254. [17:36:06] DracoMaster LANCE: Their beliefs manifest completely spontaneously and arbitrarily,
  255. [17:36:11] @Frizy: dude
  256. [17:36:11] DracoMaster LANCE: not based on reason or evidence.
  257. [17:36:12] @TalkTakesTime: it kickbanned him every time he said lel
  258. [17:36:18] @doneky: ok lance
  259. [17:36:26] @Frizy: you're currently not listening to me screaming my question
  260. [17:36:26] @doneky: then why dont u leave
  261. DracoMaster LANCE was muted by shrang for 60 minutes. (tl;dr)
  262. [17:36:33] @Frizy: [16:35:12] @Frizy: did you play on the po dream world ladder
  263. [17:36:34] @Frizy: gdi
  264. [17:36:47] @doneky: he did and he got banned
  265. [17:36:50] @doneky: for his verbose posts
  266. [17:36:52] @doneky: on po forums
  267. [17:36:56] @doneky: just like he did on smogon
  268. [17:36:57] @doneky: lol
  269. [17:36:59] +haruno: oh hey roar/whirlwind bypass protect /derailed
  270. [17:38:34] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: whoa
  271. [17:38:39] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: a lot of stuff happened
  272. [17:38:42] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: when i was gone
  273. [17:38:43] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: for like
  274. [17:38:46] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: 5 minutes
  275. [17:38:51] @TalkTakesTime: I blame Frizy
  276. [17:39:05] @doneky: not rly justin
  277. [17:39:06] @doneky: lols
  278. [17:39:09] @Frizy: what can i say
  279. [17:39:13] hi fly :): good choice TTT
  280. [17:39:15] @Frizy: im an insect
  281. [17:39:18] #shrang: yea
  282. [17:39:22] butt's wife: frizy is cute
  283. [17:39:23] @TalkTakesTime: you can say "I take full responsibility"
  284. [17:39:23] @Frizy: or a teenage punk
  285. [17:39:26] #shrang: nothing much happened
  286. [17:39:27] @Frizy: whichever choice works
  287. [17:41:29] @Frizy: now this is boring
  288. [17:41:32] @Frizy: =(
  289. [17:41:33] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: lul
  290. [17:41:34] @Frizy: good work shrang
  291. [17:41:45] @TalkTakesTime: I blame Frizy for killing chat as well
  292. [17:41:51] @TalkTakesTime: and/or mikel
  293. [17:41:54] @Frizy: stfu ttt
  294. [17:41:57] @Frizy: blame verbatim
  295. [17:42:05] @TalkTakesTime: he'll just blame the window
  296. [17:42:14] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: wow.
  297. [17:42:19] @Frizy: a fair point indeed
  298. [17:42:25] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: keep going this is entertaining
  299. [17:42:54] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: -.-
  300. [17:42:57] @TalkTakesTime: rofl
  301. [17:43:00] @Sweep: hi justin
  302. [17:43:45] jrp: hue
  303. [17:44:06] @doneky: u guys want to see a funn y log
  304. [17:44:10] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: hi sweep :D
  305. [17:44:39] @doneky: http://i.imgur.com/ftnqb3G.png
  306. [17:44:41] @doneky: lolol
  307. [17:45:08] athena cykes: cry more :/
  308. [17:45:12] athena cykes: thats so ugly
  309. [17:45:16] @Sweep: lol
  310. [17:45:20] @doneky: makes me laugh
  311. [17:45:22] @doneky: every time
  312. [17:45:24] @Sweep: 10/10 log
  313. [17:45:48] @doneky: was looking for log of sasha boosting
  314. [17:45:50] @doneky: couldnt find
  315. [17:45:51] @doneky: oh well
  316. [17:45:55] @TalkTakesTime: I think he might be angry
  317. [17:47:05] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: problems has problems
  318. [17:47:22] +DracoMaster JUSTIN: the raging tho rofl
  319.  
  320. shrang has banned you.  If you feel that your banning was unjustified you can appeal the ban:
  321. http://pokemonshowdown.com/appeal
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