alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:45 PM (12 hours ago)
OKAY

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:45 PM (12 hours ago)
want to hear my completely dignified and proper hot take

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 12:46 PM (12 hours ago)
Yesss

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:46 PM (12 hours ago)
okay prepare yourself

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 12:46 PM (12 hours ago)
:D

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:46 PM (12 hours ago)
i got thinking about it on the heels of the bootlicking fic so like

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:47 PM (12 hours ago)
let's say d/s au

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 12:47 PM (12 hours ago)
Yessssss good start

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:47 PM (12 hours ago)
without strictly enforced 'gender' dynamic roles, but with like, doms/subs both get bonuses out of getting their fix, and they get all withdrawaly

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:47 PM (12 hours ago)
subs more, doms less

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 12:48 PM (12 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
and so it's obviously in the brotherhood era, and ignis is officially noct's sub, but noct begins going through some intense depressive shit, and begins abandoning ignis

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:48 PM (12 hours ago)
quarreling with him, not talking with him, all that stuff

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 12:48 PM (12 hours ago)
Yess

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:49 PM (12 hours ago)
he doesn't really realize that he's actually depriving ignis of something vitally needed, because he, like, slept through this portion of his dom classes

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:49 PM (12 hours ago)
but he's, yeah, kinda irresponsible and pushing ignis away

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:49 PM (12 hours ago)
first it's less playing and then it's harsher/colder playing and then it's easier to just not

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 12:50 PM (12 hours ago)
Or like he doesn’t think it’s that bad

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 12:51 PM (12 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
he's not even, like, happy about it, but you know this teenager spiral lockdown and you do something bad and then you dig your heels in and can't figure out how to dig yourself out and just dig further?

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:51 PM (12 hours ago)
so he's somewhere here

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 12:51 PM (12 hours ago)
He’s coping without it, Ignis can cope

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 12:51 PM (12 hours ago)
Yes haha

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 12:51 PM (12 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
plus HE thinks it's just, like, emotional stuff. they're quarreling. maybe they'll make up at some point but like, whatever, his life is hard and his father is dying

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:51 PM (12 hours ago)
yeah

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 12:52 PM (12 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
meanwhile ignis gets a ton of flack in all those council meetings noctis doesn't go to and doesn't read reports on, because it's obvious noct is off the rails and ignis doesn't satisfy him well enough
...

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alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:52 PM (12 hours ago)
he's pretty sure he's, like, two weeks away from being summarily sacked

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:52 PM (12 hours ago)
and between that and emotional rejection and physical withdrawal ignis just like

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 12:53 PM (12 hours ago)
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obsessively dissects all the obvious flaws within himself that made noct stop loving him, if he ever did, and also made him a completely unfulfilling, unsuitable, failed companion to noct

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 12:53 PM (12 hours ago)
Yesss

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 12:53 PM (12 hours ago)
It’s his fault

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:54 PM (12 hours ago)
of course it is

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:54 PM (12 hours ago)
poor noct, to be saddled with him

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:54 PM (12 hours ago)
to not get what he needed because of him

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:54 PM (12 hours ago)
and he thinks that the, like, proper thing would to resign so noct could get somebody else

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:54 PM (12 hours ago)
but he literally can't imagine what is there for him other than

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:54 PM (12 hours ago)
he just

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 12:54 PM (12 hours ago)
Maybe he’ll be replaced with someone who can actually do their job

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:54 PM (12 hours ago)
yeah

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:54 PM (12 hours ago)
so he lets himself to just

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:54 PM (12 hours ago)
one little indulgent thing

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:55 PM (12 hours ago)
and spends some time preparing while trying not to confront or annoy noct too much

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 12:55 PM (12 hours ago)
Yess

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:55 PM (12 hours ago)
he's all quiet and flinchy and stoic

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:55 PM (12 hours ago)
(and also really not sleeping well)

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:55 PM (12 hours ago)
so! one evening

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 12:55 PM (12 hours ago)
Sleeping on the floor of his own bedroom on his own...

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:55 PM (12 hours ago)
ignis comes by noct's house to do his usual evening cleanup, bring food over, leave the reports, etc

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:56 PM (12 hours ago)
he's stopped trying to engage noct or look at him or talk to him at all

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:56 PM (12 hours ago)
he just does his stuff and quietly slips out

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 12:57 PM (12 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
and noct is just sitting on the couch, miserably fidgeting, because he's at the point where everything is fucked up and miserable and maybe he fucked up but he doesn't want to admit it because it's just unfair and why can't specs just make everything right again
...

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alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:57 PM (12 hours ago)
but ignis is just so... noct doesn't even try to pick a fight

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:57 PM (12 hours ago)
and then like

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 12:57 PM (12 hours ago)
Self sabotage?

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:57 PM (12 hours ago)
later in the evning

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:57 PM (12 hours ago)
he's bored and miserable and sulky and he doesn't want to play or talk to prompto and he decides to at least look at the reports

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:58 PM (12 hours ago)
and he finds a folder with them that ignis had obviously left on the accident

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 12:59 PM (11 hours ago)
Yes

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:59 PM (11 hours ago)
and it's like

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:59 PM (11 hours ago)
he rifles through it

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:59 PM (11 hours ago)
and it's a pretty obsessive The Care And Feeding Of Noctis dossier

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:59 PM (11 hours ago)
preferences, allergies, habits, signs that he needs pain meds, kinks, all the jazz

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:00 PM (11 hours ago)
Haaa

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:00 PM (11 hours ago)
it's written in this very objective, removed tone of voice, and it kinda makes his hair raise because like

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:00 PM (11 hours ago)
ignis knows that shit, whom does he writing it down for?

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:01 PM (11 hours ago)
Yes

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:01 PM (11 hours ago)
and so noct like

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:01 PM (11 hours ago)
tries to call ignis, but his phone is off

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:02 PM (11 hours ago)
which is weird because ignis' phone is literally never off

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:02 PM (11 hours ago)
and then he checks his schedule for the next week and it's all prepared and nice and color-coded as usual but there's like... no ignis in it

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:02 PM (11 hours ago)
Ugh

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:02 PM (11 hours ago)
Yes

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:03 PM (11 hours ago)
and then noct start freaking out for real, and sneaks out of his apartment and steals a car and goes to ignis' place

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:03 PM (11 hours ago)
(or just goes three blocks down, idk where ignis lives, anyway)

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:03 PM (11 hours ago)
he does actually have a key

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:03 PM (11 hours ago)
Haha

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:03 PM (11 hours ago)
and he opens the door and the flat is just like... completely sterile and cleaned out even by ignis' standards

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:03 PM (11 hours ago)
no personal effects, no nothing

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 1:04 PM (11 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
there's a cardboard box on the table which, when noct rifles through it, seems to contain the sum total of ignis' personal, not crown-issued belongings (spoiler: it's not a very big box)

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:04 PM (11 hours ago)
and a note! (which is a pinnacle of this High Work Of Art, which i hope you take in the spirit of dignity intended)

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:05 PM (11 hours ago)
Yessssssssssss

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:05 PM (11 hours ago)
Gimme

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:05 PM (11 hours ago)
okay so by this time

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:05 PM (11 hours ago)
noct is kinda Cluing In

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:05 PM (11 hours ago)
Ha

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:05 PM (11 hours ago)
and he opens the note in terror because he's obviously about to read how noct had driven ignis to it, right?

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:05 PM (11 hours ago)
and all it has like

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:06 PM (11 hours ago)
one boilerplate late about how ignis is doing this on his own will and while being in sound mind, et cetera, for the police

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:06 PM (11 hours ago)
and 'Apologies for the inconvenience caused," the end.

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:06 PM (11 hours ago)
Yesssssssssss

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:06 PM (11 hours ago)
Sssssss

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:07 PM (11 hours ago)
nom nom

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:07 PM (11 hours ago)
What does Noct do??

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:07 PM (11 hours ago)
ANYWAY, then noct obviously rushes through the flat and finally to the bathroom

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:07 PM (11 hours ago)
wherein ignis had very carefully drawn himself a warm bath, knelt in front of it and opened both his wrists up

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:08 PM (11 hours ago)
Yesss hhngk

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:08 PM (11 hours ago)
with his crownsguard daggers OBVIOUSLY

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:08 PM (11 hours ago)
very properly, one parallel, one perpendicular on each wrist, very neat, hands in the water, no mess for the cleaning crew

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:08 PM (11 hours ago)
Yes

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:09 PM (11 hours ago)
Is he unconscious?

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:09 PM (11 hours ago)
almost

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:09 PM (11 hours ago)
getting there

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:09 PM (11 hours ago)
noct hauls him out of the water, screaming at him, and starts just, like, slamming the potions into him one after another

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:09 PM (11 hours ago)
ignis tries to fight him off, but he's too far gone to put up a proper fight

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:09 PM (11 hours ago)
Yes

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:10 PM (11 hours ago)
But potions don’t help blood loss??

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:10 PM (11 hours ago)
nopeee

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:10 PM (11 hours ago)
but yeah, it's a close thing, but noct manages to close the slashes up

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:11 PM (11 hours ago)
and then (mwahaha) he realizes that he left his phone at home and he doesn't know where ignis' is, and he probably needs an ambulance

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:11 PM (11 hours ago)
and he's terrified of leaving ignis alone with the armiger access

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:11 PM (11 hours ago)
Yesssssss

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:11 PM (11 hours ago)
or water

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:11 PM (11 hours ago)
or anything

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:11 PM (11 hours ago)
he knows ignis is Determined

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:11 PM (11 hours ago)
and so instead they kinda noncon cuddle on the wet floor of ignis completely wrecked bathroom

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:12 PM (11 hours ago)
Yesssssss omg

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:12 PM (11 hours ago)
and ignis kinda breathes out and apologizes (for the inconvenience)

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:12 PM (11 hours ago)
and noct is like, aaaaaaa!!!!

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:12 PM (11 hours ago)
Noct finally showing some dominance

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:12 PM (11 hours ago)
what the fuck

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:12 PM (11 hours ago)
why did you do it, what the fuck

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:12 PM (11 hours ago)
He’s sorry Noct had to see that

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 1:13 PM (11 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
and ignis is like, you don't have to worry, it's fine, i'll probably be committed now after they fire me? they'll take care of me, you don't have to think about it

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:13 PM (11 hours ago)
Obviously Noct is too good a person to let Ignis die even when it’d be better for all of them

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 1:14 PM (11 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
and while noct is processing this SOMEHOW UNHELPFUL helpful statement, ignis, who has sorta transcended all human worried by that point, mostly due to blood loss, carefully and fondly says that like, but noct, you'r of age now, you must have a say when they choose a new companion for you

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:15 PM (11 hours ago)
i'm sure his majesty will pay close attention

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:15 PM (11 hours ago)
please find somebody who's palatable and enjoyable for you as a person, so you wouldn't end up so deprived of proper support again, okay?

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:16 PM (11 hours ago)
you deserve better

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:16 PM (11 hours ago)
Yes

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:17 PM (11 hours ago)
and that's, finally, the last stop on the noct cluetrain journey

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:17 PM (11 hours ago)
Haaaaa

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:17 PM (11 hours ago)
Rough ride

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:17 PM (11 hours ago)
yeah

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:17 PM (11 hours ago)
well

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:18 PM (11 hours ago)
those are Consequences and they're in his face

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:18 PM (11 hours ago)
and he kinda has this like

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:18 PM (11 hours ago)
epiphany

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:18 PM (11 hours ago)
that he can go hunt for the phone and call the ambulance and let his dad and the citadel hr crew to handle it

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 1:19 PM (11 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
and it's like - they probably would have ignis committed and he probably would get some help and maybe even be better off but maybe, knowing ignis, will nod and smile in all the right places and then do it anyway, because he's very good about doing his stuff, you know? but it wouldn't be noct's problem, noct wouldn't know

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:19 PM (11 hours ago)
it's unfair for noct to be dealing with it, right? right

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:19 PM (11 hours ago)
...or he could deal, right now

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:20 PM (11 hours ago)
Yes

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:20 PM (11 hours ago)
and so he kinda like... grows up

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 1:21 PM (11 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
and starts with telling ignis in the proper dom voice and everything that he's absolutely not allowed to try to leave the service in the nearest time, and not allowed to try again

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:21 PM (11 hours ago)
and he watches ignis, like, go down hard just at the voice, and also has a lightbulb moment of what part of a problem is

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:22 PM (11 hours ago)
But he still needs to rebuild Ignis’ trust in him?

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:22 PM (11 hours ago)
then he drags ignis into bed and gets water into him and holds him until he passes out, and then spends half of teh night scrubbing the bathroom clean

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:22 PM (11 hours ago)
Ignis can’t trust Noct to follow through on anything

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:22 PM (11 hours ago)
takes ignis to his own apartment sneakily next morning and calls him in wtih, like, food poisioning

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:22 PM (11 hours ago)
because he knows that if anybody official learns about the attempt, ignis will be removed and committed

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:23 PM (11 hours ago)
Yes

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:23 PM (11 hours ago)
so yeah, he kinda hustles

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 1:23 PM (11 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
keeps ignis in his rooms while he's recovering from the bloodloss, and then moves him over permanently, talks with his dad about how this will help him focus better

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 1:25 PM (11 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
starts fixing up his performance outside, so ignis won't get in trouble there, and meanwhile at home he like, keeps ignis restrained for most of the time, partially out of lingering fear that ignis will hurt himself again, and partially to reestablish their relationship

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:25 PM (11 hours ago)
reads up on the physiology of the bond, too

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:25 PM (11 hours ago)
Yess

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:25 PM (11 hours ago)
Amazing what the right motivation does haha

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:26 PM (11 hours ago)
i knoooow

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:26 PM (11 hours ago)
they end up doing something practically 24/7 for that first couple of months, even though in general it's not how they work

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:26 PM (11 hours ago)
because he has to retrain ignis basically from the ground up to fix their relationship

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 1:27 PM (11 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
in a sense that ignis is still reeling and hurt and kind of self-conditioned to think everything is his fault, so in the morning he wakes up with an idea that noct, out of pity and kindness of his heart, is trying to basically pity-dom him

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:27 PM (11 hours ago)
Yes

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:27 PM (11 hours ago)
and since he's not allowed to take an exit, ignis basically flails around blindly, trying to hit on something that noct would at least enjoy

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:28 PM (11 hours ago)
Noct is too good a person, trying to fix something that shouldn’t be his problem

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:28 PM (11 hours ago)
noct finds it sort of - terrifying - because ignis at this point is completely unreliable as a consent play partner

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:29 PM (11 hours ago)
Yesss

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 1:29 PM (11 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
he can't say no, he won't say no, he's so far out of touch with his limits or the concept of being an equal part of the relationship who deserves their comfort and pleasure and safety, it's like one big minefield

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:30 PM (11 hours ago)
but noct realizes that if he cuts ignis from the play off altogether, it will just make everything worse

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:30 PM (11 hours ago)
Does Noct occasionally realise he’s just nonconned Ignis?

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:30 PM (11 hours ago)
so like... it's his fuckup and he's paying his dues

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:30 PM (11 hours ago)
slowly unfucking ignis from, like, context clues

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:30 PM (11 hours ago)
praising him, showing him how much he loves and cherishes him, how pleased he is by him, how good for him ignis is

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:30 PM (11 hours ago)
occasionally nonconning him, yeah

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:31 PM (11 hours ago)
Mmmmmm yess

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:31 PM (11 hours ago)
yeah

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:31 PM (11 hours ago)
occasionally not even occasionally nonconning him but like

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 1:32 PM (11 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
where ignis goes into the state where the only thing he can tolerate is like... taking something he intensely hates because this way he can just take it and be good for noct

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:33 PM (11 hours ago)
Yes

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:33 PM (11 hours ago)
so, yeah

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:33 PM (11 hours ago)
eventually they reach a sort of

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:33 PM (11 hours ago)
equilibrium

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:34 PM (11 hours ago)
And what's good for Noct is good for Ignis

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:34 PM (11 hours ago)
yep

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:34 PM (11 hours ago)
At least to begin with

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:34 PM (11 hours ago)
where ignis mostly realizes that it wasn't purely his problem and noct doesn't actually find him repellent

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:34 PM (11 hours ago)
and noct remembers to put his work into the relationship and pay! attention!

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:34 PM (11 hours ago)
it doesn't ever really like

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:35 PM (11 hours ago)
returns to the state they've been in before this whole thing

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:35 PM (11 hours ago)
where it was simple and uncomplicated and mostly ssc

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:35 PM (11 hours ago)
sometimes noct because less attentive, or there's trouble when they add gladio and prompto to the mix, or whatnot

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:36 PM (11 hours ago)
and sometimes ignis backslides and doesn't talk and starts spiraling until noct notises

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:36 PM (11 hours ago)
but mostly they make it work

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:36 PM (11 hours ago)
Yeah

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 1:37 PM (11 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
(when noct ascends the throne he changes the law so bonding before at least eighteen is illegal in all circumstances. DON'T FORM PHySICALLY ADDICTIVE BONDS AS TEENAGERS, KIDS!)

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:37 PM (11 hours ago)
Hahaha

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:38 PM (11 hours ago)
the end

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:38 PM (11 hours ago)
thanks to listening to my ted talk

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:38 PM (11 hours ago)
Does he ever tell anyone how bad it got?

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:38 PM (11 hours ago)
Hehe

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:38 PM (11 hours ago)
heheeee

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:38 PM (11 hours ago)
i like the idea that he starts like, dating prompto, who's also a dom and a sadist

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:39 PM (11 hours ago)
and they share ignis, who actually finds it kinda.... refreshing to sub for prompto, who goes harsher and meaner than noct without all the baggage between them

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:39 PM (11 hours ago)
but noct gives him The Talk

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:40 PM (11 hours ago)
Haha yesss

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:41 PM (11 hours ago)
He can trust Prompto much more easily

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:41 PM (11 hours ago)
he's intensely ashamed, and prompto is the first person in his life to know the full story

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:41 PM (11 hours ago)
and prompto is the one to tell him that like, on one hand yeah, dude, you fucked the fuck up

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:41 PM (11 hours ago)
(and prompto is privately horrified at the, like, this special glimpse of the inside of ignis' head)

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:41 PM (11 hours ago)
And Noct feels bad at how easily Prompto gets that trust but it's his own fault so haha

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 1:42 PM (11 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
but on the other hand you were sixteen and you were dealing with some shit, and MAYBE some ADULTS IN YOUR LIFE should've kept an eye on you both and not let it go that far

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:42 PM (11 hours ago)
i think maybe actually even like

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:42 PM (11 hours ago)
people don't bond as early as ignis and noct did

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:42 PM (11 hours ago)
they were kinda... encouraged to do so, you know, put in that position early?

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:43 PM (11 hours ago)
Basically canon haha

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 1:43 PM (11 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
so they ran into all that trouble at sixteen/nineteen respectively, when most people would deal with this amount of angst and misunderstanding at, like, late twenties

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:43 PM (11 hours ago)
well yes

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:43 PM (11 hours ago)
so prompto doesn't absolve noct, but also points out to him that they both have been kinda let down in this, intensely

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:44 PM (11 hours ago)
and then i think like, morphing into the threesome helps immensely

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:44 PM (11 hours ago)
Yess

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:44 PM (11 hours ago)
because a) noct can relax and not obsessively fear that he's 1000% responsible for ignis' emotional well-being

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:45 PM (11 hours ago)
b) ignis can stop feeling obsessively guilty about noct having to deal with his issues and his apparent ~shameful neediness and weakness

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 1:45 PM (11 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
с) (ignis' also gets amply demonstrated that people who are not noct find him very desirable, and also prompto makes him sees just how much into him noct is when he's under and can't deny it)
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alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:45 PM (11 hours ago)
and d) well, prompto has an unholy amount of fun

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:45 PM (11 hours ago)
everybody is much, much more relaxed

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:46 PM (11 hours ago)
Yess

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:46 PM (11 hours ago)
and it also helps that they have like

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:46 PM (11 hours ago)
a couple of experimental, pushy scenes that go badly, and prompto talks them both through the aftermath and it sucks but it's just a thing that happens

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:46 PM (11 hours ago)
Is Ignis like, amazingly good sub? For Prompto

alina g. <withoutnames@gmail.com>
Jul 26, 2018, 1:46 PM (11 hours ago)
to Lagerstätte
because noct still has this lingering fear that if he fucks up in the slightest, he's going to find ignis opening his jugular in his bathroom in the death of the night, you know?

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:46 PM (11 hours ago)
oh, yeah

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:47 PM (11 hours ago)
the most well-behaved sub you've ever seen

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:47 PM (11 hours ago)
He's never been with anyone who's so willing to throw himself in completely

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:47 PM (11 hours ago)
prompto teaches him to act out for fun and profit

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:47 PM (11 hours ago)
:D

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:48 PM (11 hours ago)
ignis usual punishable offenses are like

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:48 PM (11 hours ago)
failed to take care of himself

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:48 PM (11 hours ago)
made a typo on his reports

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:48 PM (11 hours ago)
(noct doesn't care but ignis does, and it's easier to punish him)

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:48 PM (11 hours ago)
incredibly accidentally overslept

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:48 PM (11 hours ago)
(ditto)

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:49 PM (11 hours ago)
Haha

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:49 PM (11 hours ago)
and prompto sets out to change that and the first time ignis, like, actually whines or refuses an order or looks noct dead in the eye and turns off his screen i

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:49 PM (11 hours ago)
because he's cruisin' for some bruisin'

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:49 PM (11 hours ago)
I can just imagine Noct reading the reports intently

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:49 PM (11 hours ago)
noct has to take a couple of moments to stop himself from rolling around, laughing and crying in joy

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:50 PM (11 hours ago)
And people are like, ah such a studious and hard working prince

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:50 PM (11 hours ago)
But really he's just looking super hard for typos

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:50 PM (11 hours ago)
haaaa

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:50 PM (11 hours ago)
And yesssss

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:51 PM (11 hours ago)
Ignis making Noct eat something with veggies

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:51 PM (11 hours ago)
heeee

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:51 PM (11 hours ago)
yeah

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:51 PM (11 hours ago)
i think like

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:51 PM (11 hours ago)
by the time prompto is in the picture noct and ignis had managed to like

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:51 PM (11 hours ago)
work out the love part?

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:51 PM (11 hours ago)
Yeah

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:51 PM (11 hours ago)
like, actually believing that they love and care for each other

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:51 PM (11 hours ago)
prompto helps them to, like, reclaim the fun

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:51 PM (11 hours ago)
the sense of the game

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:52 PM (11 hours ago)
Yeah

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:52 PM (11 hours ago)
So

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:52 PM (11 hours ago)
When will this go on AO3

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:55 PM (11 hours ago)
mwhahaha no

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:55 PM (11 hours ago)
never

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:55 PM (11 hours ago)
Noooooooooooo

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:55 PM (11 hours ago)
this is out of my wheelhouse

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:55 PM (11 hours ago)
you write it for me

Lagerstätte
Jul 26, 2018, 1:56 PM (11 hours ago)
Whaaaaa

alina g.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:57 PM (11 hours ago)
just imagine all the nice, nice angst you could wallow in