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Yet Another Anti-RNG Idiot Trying to Disprove Me

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  1. [12:33:10] <Skisk> like wonder card injecting and such, rng abuse and such.. they're just f'd up
  2. [12:33:11] <+CollectorTogami> oh wait
  3. [12:33:23] <Impulse> UH
  4. [12:33:24] <+CollectorTogami> .
  5. [12:33:24] <ReiKeima> What do you have against RNG abuse?
  6. [12:33:26] <Impulse> Togami hide
  7. [12:33:28] <+CollectorTogami> RNG is a whole other issue.
  8. [12:33:31] <Impulse> Hahah :p
  9. [12:33:36] <+CollectorTogami> It is not hacking.
  10. [12:33:37] <Impulse> Sit back guys
  11. [12:33:47] <Impulse> This is going to be one hell of a show
  12. [12:33:50] <ReiKeima> Since... That actually doesn't alter any code of the game.
  13. [12:33:52] <Skisk> if you're just going to troll me then i won't bother
  14. [12:34:10] <+CollectorTogami> Pseudorandom number manipulation does not involve the use of any unauthorized stuff.
  15. [12:34:13] <Impulse> They haven't got a thing against RNG though
  16. [12:34:15] <+CollectorTogami> All it requires is math.
  17. [12:34:16] <Skisk> also your excuse that it's ok because anyone can do it is rather pathetic
  18. [12:34:33] <Impulse> Not anyone actually
  19. [12:34:35] <ReiKeima> No game code is being changed or edited by a third party program.
  20. [12:34:38] <Impulse> You probably failed
  21. [12:34:43] <Skisk> You're basically setting the deck in your favor
  22. [12:34:48] <Skisk> no, i never tried
  23. [12:34:48] <Impulse> Why is why you hating it
  24. [12:34:49] <+CollectorTogami> No, not all kinds of RNG can be done by everyone since there are varying degrees of difficulty.
  25. [12:35:02] * Impulse looks at Colo
  26. [12:35:11] <ReiKeima> It does take a fair bit of patience.
  27. [12:35:12] <+CollectorTogami> If you think it's so easy to do, then why don't you try it yourself?
  28. [12:35:22] <ReiKeima> I'm currently trying to take up RNG abuse right now.
  29. [12:35:23] <StrongestBidoof> lord knows i can't do it
  30. [12:35:26] <ReiKeima> I only succeeded once.
  31. [12:35:29] <Skisk> Because I choose not to? lol
  32. [12:35:50] <+CollectorTogami> I've spent the last few years researching RNG. And I can tell you that it is not always easy.
  33. [12:36:00] <StrongestBidoof> Byakuya i think he's calling you a member if Team Rocket
  34. [12:36:03] <StrongestBidoof> of*
  35. [12:36:10] <+CollectorTogami> Heh.
  36. [12:36:16] <Impulse> I'd rather be part of Team Plasma then
  37. [12:36:22] <Skisk> But CollectorTogami, how about not trolling me because I have a different view than you and maybe, just maybe provide me a legitimate reason as to why it's ok
  38. [12:36:31] <StrongestBidoof> how is he trolling you
  39. [12:36:33] <+CollectorTogami> I just told you the reason why it is okay.
  40. [12:36:34] <StrongestBidoof> like, really
  41. [12:36:39] <+CollectorTogami> It involves nothing other than mathematics.
  42. [12:36:42] <Skisk> mind yours StrongestBidoof
  43. [12:36:47] <ReiKeima> Man, if this is trolling, I don't want to know what the legitimate reason is.
  44. [12:36:49] <+CollectorTogami> That's like saying I'm trolling you for claiming the world is not flat.
  45. [12:36:50] <StrongestBidoof> oh snap
  46. [12:36:53] <Impulse> It's okay because you don't alter the game code
  47. [12:36:58] <Impulse> You're doing nothing wrong,
  48. [12:37:02] <Impulse> There's no hacking etc...
  49. [12:37:07] <Skisk> Setting the deck seems wrong
  50. [12:37:14] <Impulse> the game generates the pokemon
  51. [12:37:18] <Impulse> You're not creating it
  52. [12:37:22] <Impulse> out of scratch
  53. [12:37:26] <+CollectorTogami> You can claim it "seems" wrong all you want. But you cannot deny that it is theoretically possible.
  54. [12:37:32] <StrongestBidoof> ^
  55. [12:37:39] <Whitterfly> with that name its pretty clear whose trolling =P
  56. [12:37:43] <Skisk> your point being?
  57. [12:37:44] <+CollectorTogami> Everything that RNG does is within the theoretical legal bounds of the game's code.
  58. [12:37:50] <+CollectorTogami> And therefore it is not hacking.
  59. [12:37:55] <Impulse> The one trolling here isn't us
  60. [12:37:57] <Impulse> But you
  61. [12:38:00] <Impulse> That is my point
  62. [12:38:00] <Skisk> that's nice
  63. [12:38:06] <Skisk> now be a dear and shut it
  64. [12:38:18] <Whitterfly> hah
  65. [12:38:23] <Impulse> The only thing you have tried since you entered here is provocate everyone
  66. [12:38:27] <Whitterfly> wish i had some popcorn now
  67. [12:38:27] <StrongestBidoof> i like how you come in here and try and act like you're some kind of saint sweety
  68. [12:38:29] <StrongestBidoof> it's really cute
  69. [12:38:34] <+CollectorTogami> Is that the only rebuttal you have?
  70. [12:38:37] <ReiKeima> Meh. Labelling dissecting opinions as "trolling" doesn't exactly go very far.
  71. [12:38:40] <Impulse> Which is a clear example of (trying to) troll
  72. [12:38:50] <+CollectorTogami> Psynergy, Secun, pls
  73. [12:38:57] <Skisk> You can theoretically set the deck in a game of poker, doesn't make it any more legal
  74. [12:39:19] <Whitterfly> not the best example
  75. [12:39:29] <StrongestBidoof> yeaaah not at all
  76. [12:39:35] <+CollectorTogami> Apples and oranges.
  77. [12:39:35] <ReiKeima> Well then. Let me just go make all my IVs 31 in Sun/Moon by trading in a Bottle Cap to an NPC.
  78. [12:39:38] <Skisk> Youre maniupulating the code of the game to get what you want much more eaier
  79. [12:39:52] <Impulse> You're not manipulating
  80. [12:39:55] <Impulse> You're calculating
  81. [12:40:04] <StrongestBidoof> son you ever seen the work it takes to calculate that stuff?
  82. [12:40:06] <Impulse> The game generates the mon
  83. [12:40:11] <Skisk> lol CollectorTogami, nice
  84. [12:40:15] <Impulse> You don't create
  85. [12:40:23] <+CollectorTogami> Have you seen the degree of difficulty it takes to RNG Colosseum on retail?
  86. [12:40:24] * SPPGuest79004 (SPPGuest79@C00EB5EB.77BCE3B.4BA312F3.IP) Quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)
  87. [12:40:24] * SPPGuest66153 (SPPGuest66@F0E7A01F.290FCEED.17491B57.IP) has joined #spp
  88. [12:40:28] <+CollectorTogami> We're talking nanosecond precision.
  89. [12:40:30] <Skisk> Do i care?
  90. [12:40:36] <ReiKeima> Would an NPC who can make all your IVs 31 be "cheating"?
  91. [12:40:38] <StrongestBidoof> i know you almost tore your hair out
  92. [12:40:43] <ReiKeima> A legitimate in-game NPC who can do this.
  93. [12:40:43] <Skisk> I don't care how easy or hard it is to do
  94. [12:40:48] <+CollectorTogami> StrongestBidoof and I did it on emulator
  95. [12:40:52] <+CollectorTogami> Retail is a million times worse
  96. [12:40:58] <+CollectorTogami> Only two people have ever pulled it off on retail
  97. [12:41:07] <Whitterfly> then stop complaining and move on with youre live...
  98. [12:41:09] <StrongestBidoof> how long did it take?
  99. [12:41:21] <+CollectorTogami> It takes almost two months for retail.
  100. [12:41:23] <+CollectorTogami> For one pokemon
  101. [12:41:25] <Skisk> Guess the pokemon community really has gone to hell
  102. [12:41:26] <Skisk> oh well
  103. [12:41:31] <Skisk> <censored> me for expecting more
  104. [12:41:34] <%Secun> jesus
  105. [12:41:35] <StrongestBidoof> hear that Byakuya
  106. [12:41:39] * Skisk (Skisk@synIRC-3F90EF4B.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)
  107. [12:41:39] <StrongestBidoof> you are Junko now
  108. [12:41:40] <%Secun> what even happened here
  109. [12:41:46] <%Secun> i'm just trying to farm leather on wow
  110. [12:41:48] <ReiKeima> tl;dr guy gets salty about RNG abuse.
  111. [12:41:50] <+CollectorTogami> You got me StrongestBidoof
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