[con] saturn dumb or retarded

[23:35:51]PM Saturn2888 says:
I had a question for you
[23:36:26]PM Zettbou says:
ask away
[23:36:27]PM Saturn2888 says:
would you be interested in changing your MilkShape models to use less polygons?
[23:36:58]PM Zettbou says:
when I make a noteskin I use as less polygons as I can
[23:37:01]PM Zettbou says:
I always do that
[23:37:05]PM Saturn2888 says:
Shakesoda and I did some tests last night and discovered the 3D Noteskins which I love so much are the reason the game requires a super computer to play now.
[23:37:18]PM Zettbou says:
if someone has a crappy pc that cant take 3d its their problem
[23:37:35]PM Saturn2888 says:
So pretty much you're saying we now require an HD4850 or higher
[23:37:41]PM Zettbou says:
thats why I got metal3d and 2d versions
[23:37:50]PM Zettbou says:
thats why for every 3d release there is an 2d counterpart
[23:37:58]PM Zettbou says:
because its the way sm works with 3d noteskins
[23:38:13]PM Zettbou says:
like look at an stream file
[23:38:22]PM Zettbou says:
with like 20 notes at the same time on a screen
[23:38:29]PM Zettbou says:
even if it was an cube
[23:38:32]PM Zettbou says:
it would still lag for them
[23:38:43]PM Zettbou says:
I use the lowest amount of polygons as I can
[23:38:46]PM Zettbou says:
and still keep quality
[23:38:56]PM Zettbou says:
if their pc's cant take it I cant help it
[23:39:15]PM Zettbou says:
I said it before
[23:39:18]PM Zettbou says:
and I will say it again
[23:39:26]PM Zettbou says:
the 3d system of stepmania should be remade
[23:39:34]PM Zettbou says:
cuz its an old system
[23:39:45]PM Zettbou says:
it needs an total redesign
[23:41:01]PM Saturn2888 says:
you keep saying "they"
[23:41:02]PM Saturn2888 says:
please stop
[23:41:09]PM Saturn2888 says:
because they includes EVERYONE
[23:41:12]PM Saturn2888 says:
you are there too
[23:41:13]PM Zettbou says:
yes
[23:41:17]PM Saturn2888 says:
so here's the thing
[23:41:25]PM Saturn2888 says:
yes, I can play this game just fine on absolutely anything
[23:41:31]PM Saturn2888 says:
no problem
[23:41:33]PM Saturn2888 says:
EXCEPT
[23:41:52]PM Saturn2888 says:
my laptop (which I use for testing) and now especially my netbook. On my netbook, I can understand
[23:41:56]PM Saturn2888 says:
but for my laptop? not so much
[23:42:22]PM Saturn2888 says:
the ITG noteskins were designed to work on anything, and they do. My laptop has an 8600GS, and I keep the system clean. You'd think it would be able to do this.
[23:42:41]PM Zettbou says:
because an laptop has an onboad videocard which lags when doing 3d rendering from milkshape models
[23:42:53]PM Saturn2888 says:
nVIDIA GeForce 8600GS should be plenty
[23:43:10]PM Zettbou says:
like milkshape models arnt like blender models you should remember that
[23:43:13]PM Zettbou says:
its an text file
[23:43:21]PM Zettbou says:
which gets run by stepmania
[23:43:32]PM Zettbou says:
which your videocard needs to render from text
[23:43:39]PM Zettbou says:
ofcourse it will lag
[23:44:18]PM Zettbou says:
models from textfiles is a silly consept
[23:44:37]PM Zettbou says:
the reason its fine for dancing charcters is because its just one charcter
[23:44:44]PM Zettbou says:
so it only has to render once
[23:44:48]PM Zettbou says:
and just animate it
[23:44:53]PM Zettbou says:
while with an noteskin
[23:45:12]PM Zettbou says:
every time an new arrow pops up it gets renderd from an textfile
[23:45:20]PM Zettbou says:
if you dont have an next gen pc it will lag
[23:45:26]PM Zettbou says:
its not prerenderd
[23:47:10]PM Saturn2888 says:
oh hmm