[1:54 AM] Celirra: about the V thing
[1:54 AM] Celirra: let me know
[1:54 AM] Celirra: I have some reservations myself
[2:07 AM] DaBackpack: my concern was how forceful he was in getting people ot ally behind him on tokzic
[2:07 AM] DaBackpack: but now that i think about it it seems par for the course
[2:08 AM] DaBackpack: i mean hell, he ended up convincing me, though that was largely due to the crumminess of the soundwave wagon
[2:08 AM] DaBackpack: birdmang - Today at 2:08 AM
I dunno bro we don't live in a world were should-be's happen

~hypocritical~
[2:09 AM] Celirra: my 1 on 1 experience with him was
[2:09 AM] Celirra: "I have time to talk"
[2:09 AM] Celirra: "ok cool"
[2:09 AM] Celirra: ~talks a bit
[2:09 AM] Celirra: "ok I only have 5 mins btw"
[2:09 AM] Celirra: ??
[2:09 AM] DaBackpack: that's rude
[2:09 AM] Celirra: basically
[2:09 AM] Celirra: like that aside cause thats whatever
[2:09 AM] Celirra: I do feel like he's uh
[2:09 AM] Celirra: ...withdrawn isnt the right word
[2:09 AM] DaBackpack: I think that's normal for him though
[2:09 AM] Celirra: is it?
[2:10 AM] Celirra: okay thats kinda what I wanted to ask about
[2:10 AM] DaBackpack: my mental model of him is like this hero who swoops in at the last second, dumps a lot of shit, and then pushes it to the maximum
[2:11 AM] DaBackpack: I have a hard time telling if he's town or wolf, but I think that behavior is consistent with his general playstyle
[2:11 AM] DaBackpack: V is very good at this game
[2:11 AM] Celirra: I can't voice all weekend really
[2:12 AM] Celirra: And I dont want to keep you up too late tonight
[2:12 AM] Celirra: but I share that sentiment
[2:12 AM] Celirra: and I do have some... apprehensions for that reason with shado
[2:12 AM] Celirra: he sounds too good to be true
[2:12 AM] DaBackpack: "that reason with shadow"?
[2:12 AM] Celirra: but thats just my paranoia
[2:12 AM] Celirra: the whole
[2:12 AM] Celirra: being very good at this game
[2:12 AM] Celirra: wait thats not a reason
[2:12 AM] Celirra: apologies I'm a weeeeeee bit out of it
[2:13 AM] DaBackpack: nah same
[2:13 AM] Celirra: I kinda wanna uh
[2:13 AM] Celirra: hear your thoughts about shado a bit
[2:13 AM] Celirra: tomorrow
[2:13 AM] Celirra: not now cause I think we can both do better right now
[2:14 AM] DaBackpack: yeah we can talk later
[2:14 AM] Celirra: and its really no rush with that
[2:14 AM] Celirra: yeah
[2:14 AM] Celirra: anyways night man
[2:14 AM] DaBackpack: nighty
January 25, 2018
[9:56 PM] DaBackpack: jrodd
[9:56 PM] Celirra: ty
[10:20 PM] DaBackpack: haku
[10:20 PM] Celirra: between the 2
[10:20 PM] Celirra: pls
[10:20 PM] DaBackpack: knee
[10:20 PM] Celirra: ty
[10:20 PM] DaBackpack: don't try to force this lynch between those two though
[10:25 PM] Celirra: I agree
[10:25 PM] DaBackpack: about what part
[10:25 PM] Celirra: It's more I think it's good to organize votes
[10:29 PM] DaBackpack: ngl jrodd is voting tforce so i'm voting knee
[10:29 PM] DaBackpack: that's what i'm going with for now
[10:31 PM] Celirra: can I ask
[10:31 PM] Celirra: if you had to bet money on it
[10:31 PM] Celirra: who's your 4 wolf pool
[10:31 PM] DaBackpack: jrodd haku knee ???
[11:13 PM] Celirra: hi friend
[11:13 PM] Celirra: you swapped to tforce right
[11:13 PM] DaBackpack: I did
[11:13 PM] Celirra: care to explain why
[11:13 PM] DaBackpack: sunfan turned me around ni the last ten minutes
[11:13 PM] Celirra: you weren't the hammer anyways, it was 7-4
[11:14 PM] Celirra: can you post log
[11:15 PM] DaBackpack: thesunfan - Today at 10:42 PM
dog
what's the deal
why does jrodd bother you
DaBackpack - Today at 10:42 PM
i'm stubborn and I can't get it out of my head
what do you think about the D0 voting patterns
something's not right
thesunfan - Today at 10:43 PM
unless what you're about to say blows my mind
idc I haven't looked at them
I think ffa was an easy vote for wolves
probably all 4 weren't on him
DaBackpack - Today at 10:43 PM
do you think all the wolves voted FFA?
thesunfan - Today at 10:43 PM
beyond that I don't think I care
a number of wolves between 1 and three voted him
probably three
DaBackpack - Today at 10:44 PM
let me check the vote count in thread
ffa 5 (soundwave, theknightsofneeee, reuben_tate, Hakulyte, ShadoWolfe)
Tokzic 3 (jrodd, DaBackpack, Vendetta)
Soundwave 2 (star-crossed, sunfan)
Charu 1 (ffa)
read this dude
thesunfan - Today at 10:44 PM
that wasn't the final vc
ffa had 8 votes at the end
I'm almost positive
DaBackpack - Today at 10:45 PM
let me see
ffa 8 (soundwave, theknightsofneeee, reuben_tate, Hakulyte, ShadoWolfe, Celirra, Sunfan, Charu)
Tokzic 3 (jrodd, DaBackpack, Vendetta)
ben 1 (wv) (2nd ben vote either cold kitten or tokzic)
Soundwave 1 (star-crossed)
Charu 1 (ffa)

sorry
star-crossed, jrodd, Freezin, WV didn't vote FFA
star I have as town
I didn't see the WV vote so that's something to consider
but like
the leaves jrodd, freezin, WV as not on FFA
[11:15 PM] DaBackpack: part 1
[11:15 PM] DaBackpack: DaBackpack - Today at 10:47 PM
remember that ffa/tokzic were two town wagons
thesunfan - Today at 10:47 PM
I get that
dude
there's just no way
that jrodd is a wolf
he legit never does that as a wolf
how do I convince you of this
he would never call you that as a wolf to win the game
DaBackpack - Today at 10:48 PM
mrrr
thesunfan - Today at 10:48 PM
he just gets like that when people push him as town
like
DaBackpack - Today at 10:48 PM
I guess
thesunfan - Today at 10:48 PM
I legit had him in a weird no mans land all game
but when I saw that
I knew I was wrong to not have him as town
its why I kicked haku out
he's town
I can't explaIn whatever vote thing you want resolved
but right now
idc how hard the pill is to swallow
jrodd is town
DaBackpack - Today at 10:49 PM
I'm not going to vote him
obviously
I don't think you're lying to me
thesunfan - Today at 10:50 PM
im not trying to convince you not to vote him
im trying to convince you to vote trevor
would voting haku be more appealing?
because we were talking about that
people don't want trevor it seems
DaBackpack - Today at 10:50 PM
who's on trevor now?
thesunfan - Today at 10:51 PM
sound jrodd and me by my last look
freezin might switch
neee might be on trevor
DaBackpack - Today at 10:52 PM
grrr
that looks kind of pure, aside maybe soundwave
thesunfan - Today at 10:52 PM
ik
DaBackpack - Today at 10:53 PM
you're right about the knee not being here thing, I brought that up earlier
thesunfan - Today at 10:53 PM
freezin did switch
for the record
DaBackpack - Today at 10:53 PM
I'll do it
for peace of mind
thesunfan - Today at 10:54 PM
appreciated
DaBackpack - Today at 11:10 PM
this has shaken my faith
we might already have lost
if you're wolf, good job
[11:15 PM] DaBackpack: part 2
[11:16 PM] DaBackpack: that's tthe convo
[11:16 PM] Celirra: ty
January 26, 2018
[12:15 AM] Celirra: hey would appreciate reply to most recent post in thread
[12:15 AM] Celirra: within 18hrs ideally
[12:17 AM] DaBackpack: that's a very colorful post
[12:18 AM] DaBackpack: I'm going to ruminate on it but here are my first impressions

1: Who do you think needs to be lynched most urgently?

knights

2: What is the 4-man wolf team you have in mind (don't pussy foot around it, explicitly name 4 names)?

3: Who did you vote last phase, and why? Provide logs and quotes to support yourself if you so choose.

4: What effect did the recent T-Force flip have on your stances?

5: If you had to write a eulogy before getting lynched out of this game, what would it entail?

6: Who do you think is controlling the game currently, or has been in the past few phases?
[12:18 AM] DaBackpack: oh
[12:18 AM] DaBackpack: let me try that again
[12:20 AM] DaBackpack: 2: What is the 4-man wolf team you have in mind (don't pussy foot around it, explicitly name 4 names)?

knights/haku/(one of sunfan and jrodd)/???
[12:20 AM] DaBackpack: 3: Who did you vote last phase, and why? Provide logs and quotes to support yourself if you so choose.

t-force, for the reason of the log I posted above
[12:20 AM] DaBackpack: 4: What effect did the recent T-Force flip have on your stances?

jrodd and sunfan probably not on same team
[12:21 AM] DaBackpack: 5: If you had to write a eulogy before getting lynched out of this game, what would it entail?

I'm not going to tell you this part (yet)
[12:23 AM] DaBackpack: 6: Who do you think is controlling the game currently, or has been in the past few phases?

honestly if we believe this game has a mastermind, it kinda has to be in sunfan/freezin, but I'm not convinced that is the case. I am thinking that town is just fucking itself over
[12:25 AM] Celirra: great, thanks a bunch!
[12:25 AM] Celirra: If you want to elaborate on anything in any way that would be cool too but definitely not needed, nothing is final or anything after all