Malicious1:17 PM

ya'll took dyrv eh?
Gerdubus1:24 PM

"took" is an interesting word to use. She asked what my raid times/intent was and asked if I needed a tank
Took would imply there was colusion in the works
Malicious1:24 PM

well i meant it as in took her in
Gerdubus1:25 PM

yeah she's gonna be tanking a bit for us in heroic.
Malicious1:26 PM

i would have preffered to know about it at least, but the blame lies with her.
Gerdubus1:27 PM

And as any respectful GM worth his salt would do. I've made myself privy to any conversations/interactions that have been going on surrounding this. Best off to leave it be.
You might want to check her leaving message again then dude. You were informed, she stated that she was going to be leaving to play more casually with friends. I'm not sure where there is room to misinterupt that
Malicious1:28 PM

she had already left when she did it
she didnt tell me or anyone in the guild
Gerdubus1:29 PM

We really gonna split hairs on this? Cause I have the time stamps if you want them
Malicious1:29 PM

that were her "friends"
look man i dont care that shes in your guild. im not coming at you about it, i was wanting to talk to you about it
cuz we used to talk just fine
Gerdubus1:31 PM

I know you're not coming at me about it. And we still do, all I'm saying is that the woman is an adult, she was very diplomatic about it, she can really do what she wants in terms of a video game and I honestly don't think it's very fair for you to be
treating her the way you are/handeling this situation.
Malicious1:31 PM

let me put it like this
we were friends and i thought that beign a friend i was at least owed a fucking explanation as to why she is deciding to do this. i had  to find out from OTHER ppl in my guild.
malaka did the same thing, but at least he talked to me directly about it. theres no bad blood with malaka
Gerdubus1:32 PM

The fuck are you talking about? Did you not see her posting it in discord? or do you think she just straight dipped?
cause I'm thinking you're missing something here
Malicious1:33 PM

she was already gone when that message was posted
Gerdubus1:33 PM

What were you wanting her to do? Post that and wait for permission to leave? I'm confused. You wanted a reason, she gave it, then left.
Malicious1:34 PM

Nigga she had my fucking number and facebook. We were supposed to be close
this diplomatic approach doesn't apply when you have friends that trust you
but clearly, the message isn't getting across.
sorry i even bothered.
Gerdubus1:36 PM

It sure as fuck does. And you think she might have been feeling betrayed/your friendship being strained? Ever ask that? or just too busy trying to cop website endorsements. Like dude, I appreciate you coming to me with this and handling it diplomaticly
But don't take me for a fucking fool
shoot straight or not at all
Malicious1:38 PM

i did shoot straight
if she respected me enough to tell me i wouldnt have had an issue
but i guess all i deserved was a fucking @everyone tag in discord
thats why im fucking pissesd
pissed*
not that she left
Gerdubus1:39 PM

If it were me in that situation, you'd be lucky you got that
if I'm honest
And you're so busy running around talking to everyone else about this shit. Have you even taken the time to message HER about it yet?
Malicious1:40 PM

i did
pissed me off even more
Gerdubus1:40 PM

maybe you wouldn't be so pissed if ya'll talked through it and found what the root was
Malicious1:41 PM

cuz i told her there as well. why didnt you just tell me
i would have helped her look for aguild
Gerdubus1:43 PM

you're really not getting the full reason as to why she left are you dude? It's really not my place to say anything. I'll leave that between you two, but you might wanna take a look on a little more of a macro scale
Malicious1:44 PM

i have to take what she told me her reason was at face value
cuz if she wanted me to know, she would have told me
Gerdubus1:45 PM

And she did, she wanted a more relaxed envrionment to raid in with less stress and comitment.
Anything else
is personal
and you need to address that
Malicious1:45 PM

i cant make her tell me
but like i said
Gerdubus1:45 PM

nor does she need to
Malicious1:45 PM

i considered her a friend
and would have thought she would have told m
me*
Gerdubus1:46 PM

well you don't take advantage of friends dude
Malicious1:46 PM

especially since shes had no prob telling someone else
Gerdubus1:46 PM

alright, let me ask you this
When I was in Ret, did you consider me a friend?
Malicious1:46 PM

taking advantage is wanting to know the truth?
there really wasnt enough time but i would have eventually.
youre a pretty cool dude
Gerdubus1:47 PM

K, so you seem to value friendship at a pretty high regard, or claim to anyway
So where does that give you the right to spread very personal information about your "friend" that they confided in you with.
if we're looking at how you treat your friends
cause that's the issue here is it not? you're hurt cause she was your "friend?"
From the way I'm looking at it, you seem to be confusing the term "friend" with "doormat"
Malicious1:50 PM

is that right
Gerdubus1:50 PM

very much so
Malicious1:51 PM

well clearly youve had some words you wanted to say to me
Gerdubus1:52 PM

Oh not at all. They would have been said if I had wanted to.
I'm just not as stuipid/misinformed as you clearly think I am.
Respect is earned, not given. Might wanna dweal on that.
Malicious1:54 PM

well i apologize i couldnt refrain from indulging in gossip about your relationship. theres nothin i can do to change that
Gerdubus1:55 PM

Appreciate the apoligy. That was big of you. No sarcasim intended.
Malicious1:56 PM

It's an ever learning process this leadership thing. I have to be smart about the trust put in me, and i am truly sorry i betrayed that trust.
Thanks for taking the time to talk with me, i wish you the best of luck in the raid tier.
Gerdubus1:57 PM

when you're a leader, it's no longer about you. It's a difficult mentality to adopt but it's one that will pay you millions in dividends.
Selflessness is the key, figure out that happy medium and you'll have nothing but respect from your peirs. Not a worry at all, anytime you want to talk let me know. Willing to do what I can.
Malicious1:59 PM

There comes a fear attached to that, one of failure and betrayal. Wronging those that have done no wrong isn't the way to go. It's something i have to deal with.
Gerdubus1:59 PM

Best of luck with you guys too.
Malicious2:00 PM

Thanks
Gerdubus2:00 PM

Yeah, it's a very tough medium when it comes to balancing that. But like I said, the best advice I can offer is try and take everytthing as diplomaticly as you can and as neutral as you can. Look at it from a business perspective and not a personal side.
emotions fuck with decisions 10 fold.
Malicious2:01 PM

indeed they do
Gerdubus2:02 PM

Selflessness
will be your best friend.
It's not your raid, or your kill, or your time.
It's the guilds, your guild.
Create some pride in the name, some pride in the time together.
Malicious2:05 PM

i need to detach myself
Gerdubus2:05 PM

150%
to an extent
have bonds and friendships
but leadership needs to be that
leadership.
You're gonna try something next raid night. When you do your pow wow. Make it about them. If you guys wipe, make it about "us". If someone is constantly fucking up, stress the value of OUR time
Malicious2:09 PM

yeah i can do that
Gerdubus2:13 PM

and when ya'll get a kill
wild the fuck out
lol
"Alright' ya'll mother fuckers line up, we screen shottin this bitch"
Malicious2:16 PM

yeah i haven't been doing SS
Gerdubus2:17 PM

ohh dude, you gotta hype that shit up. Make mother fuckers show off and shit haha "Alright lets see some creative poses and toys"
Highhorn would world shrinker and roar 100% of the time
Malicious2:17 PM

did he go back to you guys too?
i remember he said he was wanting to go and play with friends
i thought i heard him say alliance tho
Gerdubus2:19 PM

I was trying to get him to play over here for a damn month. Him and a bunch of his buddies were in their own guild for the first few weeks of the xpac. They caved like last week lol
its like....6 of the fuckers lol. HH is the only raider out of the bunch tho
Malicious2:19 PM

ah that sucks.
Gerdubus2:20 PM

yeah, Highhorn and his brother were in my mythic core back in the day