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- Omega Red OOT.
- Corvette has not presented Omega Red (Red) as OOT.
- I'm convinced that the death spores are a non-factor in this match. Corvette's only claims about them are; They would instantly kill bats, which the tier setter is not. They would incapacitate a woman as soon as Red walks into a room with her, this is more suspect but I do agree with Corvette that this is a featless person, and you can clearly see Cable (not a featless person) does not immediately die or become knocked out. The last claim Corvette makes is that through sustained contact Red could weaken Guts significantly, this is not inherently OOT seeing as how Guts has counterplay to being grappled (higher lifting strength, arm cannon) and how even a weakened Guts can wield Dragonslayer which is his primary win con against Red.
- While I agree that Red is faster in reactions, upon re-reading the debate Corvette makes it clear that Red's coils are not so significantly faster than Guts or how fast he can swing his sword, that it is an automatic 9-10/10 victory for Red. As Corv points out Guts is also significantly faster in general movement speed that if Guts chooses to take the offensive then Red must spend more time defending against Guts, which obviously leaves him less time to attack.
- As an aside Guts is capable of outfighting. Zodd has a larger reach than Guts, and Guts is very comfortable defending and going on the offensive against Zodd.
- While its true that Guts doesnt have any piercing resistance in the way that you could shoot him in the head, or stick a needle in his arm, Guts does have piercing resistance in the way that Draagonslayer is 400lbs of magic iron, and guts will attempt to block with it if he is aware that the coils have a piercing component and that unless Guts is pierced in the heart of the brain he still has ample time to preform multiple swings with Dragonslayer, or the Arm Cannon Trick.
- Red has not been presented as OOT.
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