Non-Fiction (2019)

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How are you? Come in.

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Have a seat.

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- Coffee?
- No thanks.

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Following what's going on
with Carsten Villar's book?

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In the papers, yeah.
It's been attacked viciously.

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THE SWAMP

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Is this the copy
marked up by your lawyers?

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I'm impressed.

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He takes risks. He's brave.

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Or masochistic.

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You can't write a novel about politics,

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using transparent aliases,

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accusing everyone of depravity,
and hope it goes down well.

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I figured that everyone
would prefer it go unnoticed.

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Except journalists, bloggers.

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It's sensational stuff,
unstoppable on Twitter.

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I thought
no one reads books anymore.

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True. Fewer readers, more books.
But more tensions.

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Writing makes people hysterical.

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Meaning?

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It scares them.

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The less they read,
the more wary they are of writing.

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Ours is a civilization
of the written word. Take internet.

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People write more, more often
and surprisingly with more care.

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An infinite minority.

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It adds up.
More people write, more and better.

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4 lines on Twitter isn't...

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Why not?

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Like under the Ancien Régime.

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People sharing witticisms.
It's very French.

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Nothing new.

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Just more people
spreading witticisms farther.

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And unwitty witticisms!

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And lousy jokes. Nothing new about it.

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Flatters narcissism.

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Yep.

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These are narcissistic times.
What can we do?

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We disconnect
from art and artists.

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You're no less narcissistic.
We all are.

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I don't know
what you mean by that.

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I reject this materialistic society.

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Its obsession with money,
the body, clothes.

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Stop oversimplifying.
Your radicality is no less narcissistic.

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You know how I live.

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Without my wife,
I'd be on welfare.

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I can't judge the world?

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You can judge it.

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I'm just saying this radicality
is also narcissism.

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It's the most valuable commodity.

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You want to take that too?

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Do and think as you please.
So will I.

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That's unlike you.

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Shall we have lunch?

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Pamela...
What a madhouse.

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- Can't complain.
- Rush hour.

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- The Thai is closed.
- That's why.

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- Can we sit?
- Go right ahead.

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Have a seat.

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Get your quarterlies?

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Foundation is still selling.

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It's been 10 years, nice and steady.
Paperback too.

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The others keep stagnating.

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Stagnating pretty low.

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- Hushed...
- Farewells.

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Hushed Farewells, yes.

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It wasn't exactly a chart-buster.

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We didn't kill many trees.

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A worst-seller, as they say.

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It happens.

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I saw your ex-wife.
What's her name?

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Solange.

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Solange, right.

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In Farewells what's her name?

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Veronique.

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Veronique Pastoureau.

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She said she was sick.

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It seems pretty serious.

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You see each other?

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She's the one who left.

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She feels bad about it.

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Don't know.

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Probably, yes.

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It was very painful for me, so...

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I don't want to backtrack.

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I felt very sorry for her,

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since we've been through a lot together.

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Barcelona book fair,
when she got dead drunk.

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Alain, I don't want to talk about it.

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I understand.

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How's Valerie?

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Fine...

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Still works for that politician.

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David?

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Constantly traveling.

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Tell her I share David's views...
Very courageous.

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Especially on cultural policy
for Europe.

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I'll tell her.

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She'll tell him for sure.

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He'll be happy to hear it, I guess.

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Here you go.

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Today's special is veal stew.

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I'll have the usual.

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Entrecote rare, salad and still water.

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Perfect.

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No appetizer?

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But be my guest.

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All right.

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I'll have...

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a terrine, please, and then...

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turbot aioli.

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No wine?

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Thank you, gentlemen.

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So...

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Valerie is sort of her. Oriane.

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And Xenia is Stephanie Volkowski.

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She has that talk-show on Channel 8.

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In the manuscript.

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Which you maybe read.

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Yes, I did. I wanted to talk about it.

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We're here to discuss it.

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I liked it.

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Same vein as your recent work.

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I feel there's sort of an arc.

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It forced itself on me.

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The scene where they meet by chance

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in the BHV hardware department.

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- It's not made up.
- I figured.

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It's moving.

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And since it's told in snippets...

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Is it her talking
or what you fear she might say?

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It's what she should have told me...

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if she'd been...

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more lucid, or...

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It's not "lucid" I meant...

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More honest?

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More...

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If she'd been more cruel.

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It's harsh... but true.

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Didn't you write a BHV scene before?

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Yes, in... Police Report.

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Right... It was recent.

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8 years ago.

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Not so recent.

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I was discussing it with Constance,
our new publicist.

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She loves Police Report.

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One of her favorites.

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See?
You weren't sold on it back then.

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It's aged well.

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Constance was asking

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why you didn't follow up in that vein.

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I did it, so why do it again?

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Not do it again, but... extend it.

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Would you have liked me...

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to write something along those lines?

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You have doubts?

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Questions?

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Questions...

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I mean, questions...

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about myself.
Nothing about your text.

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It's sort of my text.

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No, your text triggers a thought process

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that goes beyond your text.

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How so?

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I just wonder if...

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in terms of our times,
we're not both cut off

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from what's happening
or from what should happen.

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When we write and publish books,

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we're out of phase with the times.

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The terrine...

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Thanks for lunch.

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Sorry, my pleasure.

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If anything here interests you...

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I already browsed.
Not much in there for me.

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I'm off.

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See you soon.

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I'd like that.

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Otherwise...

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Yes?

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About my manuscript...

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What?

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Is it scheduled?

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I don't get it.

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A release date.

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You're publishing it...

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No, I'm not. I thought you understood.

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Everyone's here.

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Sorry I'm late.

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As usual.

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I had to meet with Laure.

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Laure d'Angerville.

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I mentioned her.
Head of digital transition.

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Brilliant business school grad,
sexual-predator style.

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That's her.

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Nowadays it's simple.
More people read my blog than my books.

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Don't complain.
Your book's doing well.

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Stacks of Be Honest with Me
at the superstore!

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Big hit.

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We'll do an audiobook.
They sell very well.

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Maybe Catherine Deneuve.

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I'm in.

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- Dream on.
- Who knows?

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I hear she's nice.

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My blog gets 5,000 hits a day.

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A day?

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Jeez!

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What do you discuss?

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News.

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Not literary news.

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What concerns me.
What concerns people day by day.

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But they read me.
And more online than on paper.

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Don't forget it's free.

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People love free stuff.

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There's a recession.
It's normal.

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They want art for free.
Not computers.

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Meaning?

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No one has a problem
spending 1,500 on a computer

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plus the cost
of an internet provider,

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recession or not.

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But buying music or books

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or even the paper
is a major problem.

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Books are pirated much less.
No comparison.

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Because young people read less,
that's all.

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The real pirates
are internet providers,

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selling content that's not theirs.

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People say art is corrupt,
thus worthless, so it should be free.

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Many good people agree.

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And many good people disagree.

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It's too easy to hide
behind modern art theory

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to download Fast and Furious.

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You're oversimplifying.

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Fuck you!

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Please.

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- Can someone help me?
- Coming.

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Just take the pastries.

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Over there.

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Like information.

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It should be free because deemed fake.
Paying would buy it respect.

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It's distorted by the power of lobbies

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or journalists' conformism.
It's delegitimized.

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Whereas the craziest rumors

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validated by self-proclaimed experts

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are swallowed whole.

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I hear that over and over.

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Internet didn't invent rumors.

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Governments always exploited them.

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We learn to think to avoid that.
That's what books are for.

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But we learn less and less.

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It's a constantly mutating virus.

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Writing will dematerialize.
It's a fact.

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Look.

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You read manuscripts on tablets.

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Not all of them.

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I never do.

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Not your generation.

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Not your education.
No offense!

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New generations
grow up with computers.

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It's different.

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Bottom line: they read less.

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Wrong.

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More and more blogs!

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Just more and more bloggers.

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With time to waste.

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- But not for the kids.
- I disagree.

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We write more than before.

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Internet has freed speech.

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What speech? Some incontinent flow?

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Thank you.

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I don't mean your blog.

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Of course not.

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Which I don't read,
but I do read your books.

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You're the minority.

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Because my blog is read,
some of its readers buy my books.

273
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Hence the success
Alain was crowing about.

274
00:13:44,092 --> 00:13:46,133
Your books do great on Kindle.

275
00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:50,510
Check the figures.
It's the elderly who read.

276
00:13:51,093 --> 00:13:53,551
Roughly speaking, retirees.

277
00:13:53,635 --> 00:13:55,426
Among them, mostly women.

278
00:13:55,510 --> 00:13:57,052
They switched to e-readers.

279
00:13:57,386 --> 00:14:00,636
They're more convenient.
easier, lighter, handier.

280
00:14:00,719 --> 00:14:01,636
Bigger letters.

281
00:14:01,719 --> 00:14:05,136
When you travel,
you can take your whole library.

282
00:14:05,220 --> 00:14:06,762
Why my whole library?

283
00:14:07,136 --> 00:14:08,262
I take a book.

284
00:14:08,345 --> 00:14:10,304
It's lighter than an e-reader.

285
00:14:10,388 --> 00:14:12,054
- No recharging.
- Right.

286
00:14:12,137 --> 00:14:14,221
Don't be dishonest. This is real.

287
00:14:14,304 --> 00:14:17,389
We'll read fewer books
and they'll be on e-readers.

288
00:14:20,597 --> 00:14:22,264
No more vodka for her.

289
00:14:24,431 --> 00:14:26,098
I have a question.

290
00:14:26,431 --> 00:14:28,765
Why not go full digital?

291
00:14:28,848 --> 00:14:30,474
It makes no sense.

292
00:14:30,557 --> 00:14:33,641
Truth is, books still sell.
Less, but they sell.

293
00:14:33,724 --> 00:14:35,599
- It works.
- Not for long.

294
00:14:36,058 --> 00:14:39,767
No more intermediaries:
distributors, bookstores, printers.

295
00:14:39,850 --> 00:14:41,433
Just publishers and writers.

296
00:14:41,892 --> 00:14:44,059
A publishing house becomes a website.

297
00:14:44,393 --> 00:14:45,726
Call it a website.

298
00:14:45,810 --> 00:14:49,227
It does the same editing on manuscripts,

299
00:14:49,310 --> 00:14:51,185
same follow-up, same standards.

300
00:14:51,519 --> 00:14:53,227
- It's demeaning.
- For you.

301
00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,477
Not for people used to electronic books.

302
00:14:57,311 --> 00:14:59,436
E-books? All right...

303
00:14:59,812 --> 00:15:01,144
What's so funny?

304
00:15:01,395 --> 00:15:04,812
All we do is
lose the fabrication process.

305
00:15:05,270 --> 00:15:06,980
Same deals, same authors.

306
00:15:07,437 --> 00:15:09,813
My blog could be on your site.

307
00:15:09,896 --> 00:15:11,021
Exactly.

308
00:15:11,105 --> 00:15:13,897
We do the same exact thing as now.

309
00:15:14,271 --> 00:15:16,981
Maybe better
because we focus on essentials.

310
00:15:17,064 --> 00:15:19,856
No packaging, no logistics.

311
00:15:20,189 --> 00:15:22,356
- So you fire people.
- Not at all.

312
00:15:22,856 --> 00:15:25,940
We'll part with some, hire others.
No fewer posts.

313
00:15:26,941 --> 00:15:30,316
Literary prizes
will be voted for online.

314
00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:31,525
And sent by email.

315
00:15:31,816 --> 00:15:33,566
Why not by Amazon? Prime!

316
00:15:34,274 --> 00:15:38,567
And you'll meet readers
via video-conference.

317
00:15:38,651 --> 00:15:40,025
We already do.

318
00:15:40,109 --> 00:15:42,567
No one will ever leave home.

319
00:15:42,651 --> 00:15:44,235
How depressing.

320
00:15:44,901 --> 00:15:46,610
We're at a tipping point.

321
00:15:47,110 --> 00:15:50,819
Adorno on iPad or in a first edition
on vellum paper

322
00:15:50,902 --> 00:15:53,069
won't change what we get from him.

323
00:15:53,444 --> 00:15:57,028
I doubt there are first editions
of Adorno on vellum paper.

324
00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:58,529
You never read him.

325
00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:00,946
It's a figure of speech.

326
00:16:02,029 --> 00:16:05,113
I agree.
We can peacefully leave books behind.

327
00:16:10,613 --> 00:16:12,780
There are glasses over there...

328
00:16:14,322 --> 00:16:15,823
They wandered off.

329
00:16:18,864 --> 00:16:20,865
I had lunch with Leonard.

330
00:16:21,740 --> 00:16:23,199
It was painful.

331
00:16:23,490 --> 00:16:24,907
It's always painful.

332
00:16:25,157 --> 00:16:26,700
This time even more.

333
00:16:27,783 --> 00:16:29,616
I read his manuscript.

334
00:16:29,700 --> 00:16:31,242
What's it about?

335
00:16:31,783 --> 00:16:33,283
More of the same.

336
00:16:34,033 --> 00:16:35,575
His affairs.

337
00:16:35,951 --> 00:16:38,784
Pretty repetitive. Pretty sordid too.

338
00:16:39,618 --> 00:16:40,576
Recent affairs?

339
00:16:41,743 --> 00:16:42,827
Recent ones, yes.

340
00:16:43,244 --> 00:16:44,660
You didn't like it?

341
00:16:44,743 --> 00:16:46,244
I have major issues.

342
00:16:46,327 --> 00:16:48,285
I think he's a good writer.

343
00:16:48,369 --> 00:16:50,245
It's an extension of the last one.

344
00:16:50,328 --> 00:16:51,286
It wasn't bad.

345
00:16:51,869 --> 00:16:53,370
I struggled through it.

346
00:16:54,161 --> 00:16:57,662
Under the cynicism
is a human being, sort of.

347
00:16:58,954 --> 00:17:00,079
I turned it down.

348
00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,706
I need your advice.

349
00:17:10,998 --> 00:17:12,456
That's unusual.

350
00:17:14,206 --> 00:17:16,415
I was offered season 4 of Collusion.

351
00:17:16,957 --> 00:17:18,249
A fourth season?

352
00:17:18,623 --> 00:17:19,999
It's doing very well.

353
00:17:20,957 --> 00:17:22,374
It gets great press.

354
00:17:22,457 --> 00:17:24,291
Series always get great press.

355
00:17:26,417 --> 00:17:28,750
Why hesitate?
Sick of playing a cop?

356
00:17:29,250 --> 00:17:32,750
Not a cop.
She's a crisis management expert.

357
00:17:39,710 --> 00:17:42,919
It's wearing on me.
I'm going nowhere.

358
00:17:44,836 --> 00:17:45,919
So stop.

359
00:17:47,461 --> 00:17:49,795
But they can't replace me.

360
00:17:50,628 --> 00:17:52,462
I feel like a hostage.

361
00:17:53,754 --> 00:17:56,212
If you have no choice, do it.

362
00:17:56,295 --> 00:17:58,838
If I say yes,
it'll be another 6 months.

363
00:18:05,464 --> 00:18:06,839
What are you up to?

364
00:18:06,922 --> 00:18:08,214
I had a bad dream.

365
00:18:09,256 --> 00:18:10,631
Why are you here?

366
00:18:11,048 --> 00:18:13,632
Where's your bed? Where is it?

367
00:18:15,882 --> 00:18:16,799
Over there.

368
00:18:16,882 --> 00:18:17,841
A nightmare?

369
00:18:18,674 --> 00:18:21,216
Or a dream about sleeping
with Mom and Dad?

370
00:18:23,967 --> 00:18:25,217
Little rascal!

371
00:18:26,426 --> 00:18:27,634
Go on, hide.

372
00:18:30,010 --> 00:18:31,301
Back to bed.

373
00:18:31,384 --> 00:18:32,884
He'll read you a story.

374
00:19:24,059 --> 00:19:25,600
What's wrong?

375
00:19:26,268 --> 00:19:27,643
Nothing.

376
00:19:30,060 --> 00:19:31,393
All right...

377
00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,686
I had lunch with Alain yesterday.

378
00:19:37,103 --> 00:19:38,561
Is Alain doing well?

379
00:19:40,478 --> 00:19:41,687
He seems fine.

380
00:19:42,186 --> 00:19:44,520
Good.
He seemed down the other day.

381
00:19:45,354 --> 00:19:46,812
"Down" how?

382
00:19:46,895 --> 00:19:49,396
Down, just down. Not up.

383
00:19:51,105 --> 00:19:53,522
He's better. He seems in good shape.

384
00:19:53,896 --> 00:19:54,855
Glad to hear it.

385
00:19:55,605 --> 00:19:56,856
Great shape.

386
00:19:58,023 --> 00:19:59,064
Excellent.

387
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,148
He turned down my manuscript.

388
00:20:04,149 --> 00:20:05,898
How is Selena?

389
00:20:08,898 --> 00:20:11,399
I don't know... I didn't see her.

390
00:20:11,482 --> 00:20:13,358
We should have dinner with them.

391
00:20:14,692 --> 00:20:16,567
I said he refused my manuscript.

392
00:20:18,567 --> 00:20:20,109
Yes, I heard.

393
00:20:20,692 --> 00:20:21,984
What can I do?

394
00:20:25,484 --> 00:20:26,402
Stand by me.

395
00:20:27,818 --> 00:20:29,277
I do stand by you.

396
00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:32,861
Rework your text, make it better.
Want me to cry?

397
00:20:33,236 --> 00:20:37,278
It didn't cross your mind
he may be wrong, I don't know...

398
00:20:37,528 --> 00:20:38,737
or missed something.

399
00:20:40,487 --> 00:20:43,487
No, I didn't think that.
He's your publisher.

400
00:20:43,571 --> 00:20:44,404
So?

401
00:20:44,487 --> 00:20:47,238
So it's his call.
Or change publishers.

402
00:20:47,572 --> 00:20:49,697
I don't know any others.

403
00:20:49,780 --> 00:20:51,822
He's published me for years.

404
00:20:52,197 --> 00:20:54,905
That's what I said... Rework your text.

405
00:20:57,114 --> 00:20:59,656
I've been working on it for a year.

406
00:21:00,573 --> 00:21:02,032
I can't see straight.

407
00:21:02,323 --> 00:21:03,907
Want me to cheer you up?

408
00:21:04,949 --> 00:21:06,074
I knew it.

409
00:21:07,241 --> 00:21:08,158
So do it.

410
00:21:18,325 --> 00:21:20,617
Don't you think Alain's changed?

411
00:21:21,410 --> 00:21:22,827
So have you, so have I.

412
00:21:23,201 --> 00:21:24,785
We all change over time.

413
00:21:25,285 --> 00:21:26,702
But him for the worse.

414
00:21:27,286 --> 00:21:28,869
No, for the better.

415
00:21:30,161 --> 00:21:31,619
How so?

416
00:21:32,369 --> 00:21:34,537
He's more reliable, more solid.

417
00:21:34,953 --> 00:21:36,495
Better judgement.

418
00:21:39,495 --> 00:21:40,954
Thanks a real lot.

419
00:21:41,038 --> 00:21:42,829
Don't take it wrong.

420
00:21:43,079 --> 00:21:45,204
Vertheuil Editions is a success.

421
00:21:45,288 --> 00:21:48,414
Bestsellers, prizes.
It wasn't a given at first.

422
00:21:48,497 --> 00:21:50,831
The company is over 100 years old.

423
00:21:50,914 --> 00:21:52,956
They were struggling before Alain.

424
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,789
He senses the zeitgeist.

425
00:21:54,873 --> 00:21:56,749
That's a real talent!

426
00:21:56,832 --> 00:21:58,206
A merchant's talent.

427
00:21:59,749 --> 00:22:03,583
He's still demanding.
Many publishers envy his catalogue.

428
00:22:04,875 --> 00:22:05,916
Shit.

429
00:22:06,583 --> 00:22:08,791
I have to go. Big day ahead.

430
00:22:09,167 --> 00:22:11,083
We'll discuss this later.

431
00:22:11,167 --> 00:22:12,751
What's the emergency?

432
00:22:12,834 --> 00:22:14,460
Local elections in Mayenne.

433
00:22:15,126 --> 00:22:17,251
David wants to show his support.

434
00:22:17,334 --> 00:22:20,668
I saw it in the media.
Things look pretty grim.

435
00:22:21,668 --> 00:22:23,210
You're going along?

436
00:22:23,294 --> 00:22:27,086
To meet the strikers.
The mill is in receivership.

437
00:22:27,170 --> 00:22:29,628
Negotiations are at a standstill.

438
00:22:29,712 --> 00:22:31,003
I took on the case.

439
00:22:31,754 --> 00:22:33,171
And you're managing?

440
00:22:35,629 --> 00:22:37,254
I'll finish in the train.

441
00:22:37,337 --> 00:22:40,880
If we can't kick-start labor talks,
I'll lose hope.

442
00:22:41,422 --> 00:22:42,422
So long.

443
00:22:50,757 --> 00:22:52,256
Call Jean-Pierre?

444
00:22:52,590 --> 00:22:54,631
I left two messages. No answer.

445
00:22:54,715 --> 00:22:58,090
He mustn't worry.
I'll upload his text later.

446
00:23:08,259 --> 00:23:09,509
Good evening, Laure.

447
00:23:09,593 --> 00:23:10,885
Come in, please.

448
00:23:12,134 --> 00:23:13,218
Have a seat.

449
00:23:14,593 --> 00:23:17,635
Good to see you.
We don't know each other well.

450
00:23:17,927 --> 00:23:19,135
It's a new position.

451
00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:22,053
People don't get what I do.

452
00:23:22,136 --> 00:23:25,470
Everyone knows the importance
of digital transition.

453
00:23:25,887 --> 00:23:27,636
That's what scares them.

454
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,596
Yet I'm walking on eggshells.

455
00:23:29,679 --> 00:23:33,721
In the publishing world,
digital is demonized.

456
00:23:34,055 --> 00:23:37,263
We're beyond that.
Unfortunately or not, I can't say.

457
00:23:37,346 --> 00:23:39,847
That's why
I'm being patient, instructive

458
00:23:40,097 --> 00:23:41,431
and very humble.

459
00:23:41,930 --> 00:23:43,930
That's not what we expect of you.

460
00:23:44,598 --> 00:23:46,890
Lots to learn
in your revered institution.

461
00:23:48,223 --> 00:23:49,557
We try hard...

462
00:23:49,848 --> 00:23:51,557
not to be too revered.

463
00:23:52,015 --> 00:23:53,183
It was a compliment.

464
00:23:53,265 --> 00:23:54,932
A poisoned one.

465
00:23:55,016 --> 00:23:56,807
There are things to change.

466
00:23:56,891 --> 00:23:58,725
When I talk about the stakes...

467
00:23:59,558 --> 00:24:03,309
for the years to come,
I feel like a prophet of doom.

468
00:24:03,392 --> 00:24:05,225
You're here to shake things up.

469
00:24:05,726 --> 00:24:06,768
How much?

470
00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:09,893
Meaning?

471
00:24:09,976 --> 00:24:12,351
What's the limit on the shakeup?

472
00:24:12,685 --> 00:24:14,269
You tell me.

473
00:24:16,019 --> 00:24:19,478
To go all the way,
we have to rethink it all.

474
00:24:26,937 --> 00:24:29,480
Our approach needs visibility.

475
00:24:29,937 --> 00:24:31,271
We're not communicating.

476
00:24:32,313 --> 00:24:33,980
Any suggestions?

477
00:24:34,064 --> 00:24:35,688
We have an opportunity.

478
00:24:36,064 --> 00:24:38,314
Read Robert Clarence's manuscript?

479
00:24:38,397 --> 00:24:39,689
I'm pretty skeptical.

480
00:24:39,773 --> 00:24:43,939
A collection of texts and tweets
and what next?

481
00:24:44,523 --> 00:24:46,774
He shows unexpected humor.

482
00:24:47,356 --> 00:24:49,357
It's not new. It's been done.

483
00:24:49,441 --> 00:24:52,733
True...
Mallarmé published occasional verse.

484
00:24:53,316 --> 00:24:54,941
I wasn't thinking Mallarmé.

485
00:24:55,025 --> 00:24:56,525
Including addresses.

486
00:24:57,525 --> 00:25:00,734
Mr. Monet, that winter nor summer
does his vision lure

487
00:25:00,817 --> 00:25:04,901
Lives, while painting, Giverny
near Vernon, in the Eure

488
00:25:05,401 --> 00:25:06,318
I'm floored.

489
00:25:09,069 --> 00:25:11,360
Texting is a modern form of writing.

490
00:25:11,736 --> 00:25:13,527
We all do it. We all relate.

491
00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:15,070
Too much maybe.

492
00:25:15,153 --> 00:25:18,403
Tweets are modern-day haiku,
says Clarence.

493
00:25:18,779 --> 00:25:20,361
I respect his opinion.

494
00:25:20,445 --> 00:25:23,862
We can publish a book version
and an iPhone app.

495
00:25:24,529 --> 00:25:26,905
Why not read Clarence on iPhone?

496
00:25:28,780 --> 00:25:31,030
You're wary.
But it's a powerful image.

497
00:25:32,530 --> 00:25:34,073
We've published emails.

498
00:25:34,405 --> 00:25:36,781
- See?
- It's different. It's a letter.

499
00:25:37,073 --> 00:25:39,573
Some people polish letters,
others don't.

500
00:25:39,656 --> 00:25:42,990
Handwritten or electronic
doesn't change much.

501
00:25:43,074 --> 00:25:45,699
Castelli's correspondence
included emails.

502
00:25:45,783 --> 00:25:47,282
We didn't bother to mention it.

503
00:25:48,657 --> 00:25:49,991
Same old patterns.

504
00:25:50,533 --> 00:25:51,617
You're harsh.

505
00:26:41,540 --> 00:26:42,582
Cut!

506
00:26:44,791 --> 00:26:46,583
I wasn't in it.

507
00:26:47,458 --> 00:26:49,541
I lost my concentration.

508
00:26:50,375 --> 00:26:53,417
I got hit by a cartridge case.
Third one!

509
00:26:56,876 --> 00:26:57,793
How's it going?

510
00:26:58,710 --> 00:26:59,959
Same old thing.

511
00:27:00,502 --> 00:27:01,960
Very physical.

512
00:27:02,752 --> 00:27:04,419
- Exhausting?
- A bit.

513
00:27:04,503 --> 00:27:07,461
But it's good to work on adrenaline.

514
00:27:08,503 --> 00:27:11,753
Jerome has an easier time
with bodies than ideas.

515
00:27:11,836 --> 00:27:16,129
I'm getting sick of...
all this revenge stuff.

516
00:27:16,754 --> 00:27:17,712
It's an excuse.

517
00:27:18,129 --> 00:27:22,255
I hate revenge,
especially when it legitimizes violence.

518
00:27:24,047 --> 00:27:25,339
Don't like what you do?

519
00:27:25,672 --> 00:27:28,672
Sure, I'm glad to do it.
I do my best, but...

520
00:27:29,589 --> 00:27:31,465
It's not really satisfying.

521
00:27:33,090 --> 00:27:35,381
- How are things with Alain?
- Fine.

522
00:27:36,341 --> 00:27:37,257
Problems?

523
00:27:37,673 --> 00:27:40,216
I think he's seeing someone.

524
00:27:41,008 --> 00:27:42,549
Think or know?

525
00:27:42,966 --> 00:27:44,008
I feel it.

526
00:27:44,258 --> 00:27:45,675
Why not talk to him?

527
00:27:46,050 --> 00:27:47,634
I'm not sure I should.

528
00:27:50,218 --> 00:27:51,926
It's always better to talk.

529
00:27:52,009 --> 00:27:55,010
No, it's not.
What can I do if it's true?

530
00:27:55,802 --> 00:27:57,052
He'll lie.

531
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,511
Do I want to break up?
Is that what I want?

532
00:28:04,011 --> 00:28:05,345
You prefer hypocrisy?

533
00:28:05,428 --> 00:28:07,804
It's not hypocrisy after 20 years.

534
00:28:07,887 --> 00:28:10,720
You can't keep the flame alive forever.

535
00:28:11,346 --> 00:28:13,805
You'd find it normal if he cheated?

536
00:28:13,888 --> 00:28:14,971
He is cheating.

537
00:28:15,346 --> 00:28:18,555
- You weren't sure.
- I'd bet my life on it.

538
00:28:19,806 --> 00:28:21,514
And you'll make do with it?

539
00:28:22,098 --> 00:28:24,473
He doesn't love me less.
Maybe more.

540
00:28:25,348 --> 00:28:26,556
How so?

541
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,057
He feels guilty. He knows...

542
00:28:30,349 --> 00:28:33,265
he may lose me.
It scares him, brings him closer.

543
00:28:33,349 --> 00:28:34,766
Doesn't sound like you.

544
00:28:35,682 --> 00:28:38,308
There's more to a couple than desire.

545
00:28:39,308 --> 00:28:41,809
What's the title? What's it about?

546
00:28:42,767 --> 00:28:44,892
Vertheuil Editions will publish it?

547
00:28:45,392 --> 00:28:48,392
I'm not sure it's for them.

548
00:28:48,893 --> 00:28:50,976
It's good to start afresh.

549
00:28:51,601 --> 00:28:53,143
It's important to...

550
00:28:53,227 --> 00:28:56,019
We should get started. It's time.

551
00:28:56,103 --> 00:28:58,353
If we start, people will come.

552
00:29:00,061 --> 00:29:01,144
Good evening.

553
00:29:04,229 --> 00:29:06,270
Thank you all for coming.

554
00:29:06,354 --> 00:29:09,938
For being faithful
to our Friday gatherings.

555
00:29:10,354 --> 00:29:13,563
There are fewer of you than usual.

556
00:29:13,647 --> 00:29:16,605
But it's cold
and there's subway trouble.

557
00:29:17,438 --> 00:29:20,606
We won't keep our guest waiting.

558
00:29:21,564 --> 00:29:23,564
Good evening, Leonard Spiegel.

559
00:29:23,648 --> 00:29:26,023
It's a pleasure having you here

560
00:29:26,273 --> 00:29:29,899
to discuss a demanding Å“uvre,
still little known.

561
00:29:29,982 --> 00:29:32,108
Let me ask the first question.

562
00:29:32,690 --> 00:29:36,525
Hushed Farewells
is an explicitly autobiographical novel.

563
00:29:37,900 --> 00:29:41,567
Yes and no.
All fiction is autobiographical.

564
00:29:41,651 --> 00:29:43,193
We recognize...

565
00:29:43,442 --> 00:29:44,567
Solange.

566
00:29:44,651 --> 00:29:46,859
In the character of Veronique.

567
00:29:46,943 --> 00:29:49,027
For those who know her,
it's transparent.

568
00:29:49,110 --> 00:29:53,111
But for those who don't,
who's the real Solange?

569
00:29:54,486 --> 00:29:58,986
What's the difference if I was inspired
by her or someone else?

570
00:29:59,529 --> 00:30:02,445
In my opinion, readers will
substitute...

571
00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:08,404
their own memories, whimsy.
The result is a character...

572
00:30:09,321 --> 00:30:11,988
as fictive as if invented from scratch.

573
00:30:12,072 --> 00:30:13,364
I think.

574
00:30:14,781 --> 00:30:16,197
Any questions?

575
00:30:18,906 --> 00:30:21,657
What about the controversy
over your book?

576
00:30:22,698 --> 00:30:24,323
What controversy?

577
00:30:24,406 --> 00:30:25,573
On the internet.

578
00:30:26,824 --> 00:30:28,074
Meaning?

579
00:30:28,157 --> 00:30:31,242
The blogosphere is heated,
but you have supporters.

580
00:30:31,325 --> 00:30:35,200
Maybe you're unaware.
It's pretty vicious.

581
00:30:35,826 --> 00:30:38,076
I haven't followed it at all.

582
00:30:38,575 --> 00:30:40,243
You may be better off.

583
00:30:40,326 --> 00:30:43,493
Can writers be inspired
by real-life people?

584
00:30:43,576 --> 00:30:46,660
Of course,
that's what we've always done.

585
00:30:47,077 --> 00:30:48,369
Try harder.

586
00:30:48,911 --> 00:30:52,577
Your ex-wife posted that she felt raped.
The web was abuzz.

587
00:30:52,661 --> 00:30:55,078
It's old news, just between us.

588
00:30:55,912 --> 00:30:57,328
She harasses me.

589
00:30:57,954 --> 00:31:00,079
She's settling scores.

590
00:31:00,162 --> 00:31:02,329
Your book doesn't settle scores?

591
00:31:04,996 --> 00:31:07,122
That's your opinion.
It's debatable.

592
00:31:08,497 --> 00:31:10,372
Indeed, one can argue

593
00:31:10,455 --> 00:31:14,164
each individual owns his image.

594
00:31:14,498 --> 00:31:15,915
To trade on it or not.

595
00:31:16,456 --> 00:31:18,373
So this is about money?

596
00:31:19,165 --> 00:31:21,707
My life has a value.
You use it, you pay.

597
00:31:22,374 --> 00:31:23,457
I hear you.

598
00:31:23,541 --> 00:31:26,874
But my life
is my interactions with others.

599
00:31:27,625 --> 00:31:29,959
Subjective, if you like.

600
00:31:30,458 --> 00:31:33,251
Can't I use it, to tell what I know?

601
00:31:33,501 --> 00:31:35,751
Open to discussion.
No obvious answer.

602
00:31:36,251 --> 00:31:39,751
What if someone disagrees,
like your ex-wife?

603
00:31:40,085 --> 00:31:42,710
What if she wants
to make use of her story?

604
00:31:42,794 --> 00:31:44,836
Seriously, she's free to!

605
00:31:44,919 --> 00:31:46,086
Not at all.

606
00:31:46,169 --> 00:31:48,877
Now that you've used it,
it's second hand.

607
00:31:48,961 --> 00:31:51,212
Images have a market value.

608
00:31:51,294 --> 00:31:53,295
Not commercial value.

609
00:31:54,212 --> 00:31:56,212
The proof is your book.

610
00:31:56,546 --> 00:31:58,337
It's on sale. It has a price.

611
00:31:58,754 --> 00:32:00,296
Lives have a price.

612
00:32:00,629 --> 00:32:02,547
She can hold you accountable.

613
00:32:12,506 --> 00:32:13,965
Miss d'Angerville...

614
00:32:14,590 --> 00:32:16,132
Room 21.

615
00:32:17,632 --> 00:32:19,590
Mr. Danielson, I assume?

616
00:32:21,466 --> 00:32:22,675
Room 10.

617
00:32:26,550 --> 00:32:28,425
- I'm Blaise.
- Pleasure.

618
00:32:28,509 --> 00:32:30,592
We're thrilled you came.

619
00:32:30,676 --> 00:32:32,551
Thanks for having us.

620
00:32:32,634 --> 00:32:36,718
This is Laure,
our head of digital transition.

621
00:32:36,802 --> 00:32:39,261
- We exchanged messages.
- On machines.

622
00:32:43,886 --> 00:32:45,095
We can sit there.

623
00:32:51,054 --> 00:32:52,428
Can I take this?

624
00:32:54,429 --> 00:32:56,972
- Drinks?
- I'll have a beer.

625
00:32:57,054 --> 00:32:59,055
A beer would be great.

626
00:33:01,347 --> 00:33:02,888
2 beers, no 3.

627
00:33:07,181 --> 00:33:09,014
The real subject of the symposium

628
00:33:09,098 --> 00:33:13,015
is how digital technology
democratizes access to culture.

629
00:33:13,099 --> 00:33:15,307
What's democracy got to do with it?

630
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:17,808
Everything's available to everyone.

631
00:33:17,891 --> 00:33:19,558
Not everything, not everyone.

632
00:33:19,641 --> 00:33:21,433
No, I mean...

633
00:33:21,517 --> 00:33:24,517
digital technology raises hopes.
It's a utopia...

634
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,433
He's right.

635
00:33:25,517 --> 00:33:29,517
All books available online from Google
is a revolution.

636
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,975
20 million are now digitalized.

637
00:33:32,058 --> 00:33:34,016
World's biggest library is virtual.

638
00:33:34,267 --> 00:33:38,433
You mean Google has taken
our entire literary memory hostage

639
00:33:38,517 --> 00:33:41,142
to sell user data to advertisers.

640
00:33:41,850 --> 00:33:44,349
- Nothing gets done by philanthropy.
- Debatable.

641
00:33:44,641 --> 00:33:47,058
Commerce, business and advertising

642
00:33:47,142 --> 00:33:51,015
appropriating the circulation of
knowledge

643
00:33:51,099 --> 00:33:53,432
is a modern idea I don't buy.

644
00:33:53,890 --> 00:33:55,641
Publishing is commerce too.

645
00:33:55,724 --> 00:33:59,807
We can deplore it,
but I don't see how we can backtrack.

646
00:34:00,266 --> 00:34:04,266
Today's world in a nutshell.
No one asks us, then it's too late.

647
00:34:04,349 --> 00:34:07,640
Consulting in libraries
will be a thing of the past.

648
00:34:08,057 --> 00:34:12,390
They'll stock books
but the contents will be dematerialized.

649
00:34:17,765 --> 00:34:20,014
Is that a good or a bad thing?

650
00:34:20,557 --> 00:34:21,931
Good, of course.

651
00:34:22,014 --> 00:34:23,515
How could it be bad?

652
00:34:23,598 --> 00:34:25,098
Ask a novelist

653
00:34:25,181 --> 00:34:29,223
who wants to hone a description
or refresh a memory.

654
00:34:29,306 --> 00:34:33,472
Or a scientist who wants
an overview of research in his field.

655
00:34:35,222 --> 00:34:38,264
You have a public library.
I saw the sign.

656
00:34:38,347 --> 00:34:39,514
It's multimedia.

657
00:34:39,597 --> 00:34:43,013
- They have books, CDs, DVDs.
- Does it do well?

658
00:34:43,806 --> 00:34:47,097
Mostly with kids. They love to read.

659
00:34:47,180 --> 00:34:50,721
Homeless people too.
It's warm. They have wifi.

660
00:34:50,805 --> 00:34:53,763
And old folk.
Because there's a seed-swap.

661
00:34:55,471 --> 00:34:57,055
What's a seed-swap?

662
00:34:58,346 --> 00:35:02,263
There are wood crates
and people come to exchange seeds.

663
00:35:04,012 --> 00:35:06,763
But soon enough,
they'll serve no purpose.

664
00:35:07,179 --> 00:35:09,721
They'll be reconverted.
It's inescapable.

665
00:35:48,386 --> 00:35:50,094
I have to get going.

666
00:35:50,177 --> 00:35:51,302
Stay.

667
00:35:51,386 --> 00:35:53,761
We're having breakfast with Blaise.

668
00:36:12,552 --> 00:36:14,969
I've been thinking... I disagree.

669
00:36:16,135 --> 00:36:17,385
About what?

670
00:36:17,926 --> 00:36:20,260
Know the Bergman film, Winter Light?

671
00:36:20,343 --> 00:36:22,968
I've never seen a Bergman.
Recommend that one?

672
00:36:23,301 --> 00:36:25,926
A pastor has lost his faith...

673
00:36:26,884 --> 00:36:29,634
but still holds services
in an empty church.

674
00:36:30,176 --> 00:36:31,384
You're the pastor?

675
00:36:32,843 --> 00:36:35,300
And the church isn't exactly empty.

676
00:36:36,425 --> 00:36:37,717
I don't get it.

677
00:36:38,134 --> 00:36:41,175
It's about faith.
That's where we disagree.

678
00:36:41,551 --> 00:36:42,967
Still don't get it.

679
00:36:43,050 --> 00:36:44,509
It's not about religion.

680
00:36:44,592 --> 00:36:48,384
We devote our lives to an idea, books,
but the idea overtakes us.

681
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,883
Not necessarily.
On the contrary, we question it.

682
00:36:51,967 --> 00:36:54,092
It morphs. We try to surpass it.

683
00:36:56,092 --> 00:36:59,175
- What's funny?
- Your one-track digital mind.

684
00:36:59,258 --> 00:37:03,008
Digital technology
takes us out of our comfort zone.

685
00:37:03,383 --> 00:37:05,299
To reinvent ourselves.
It's a challenge.

686
00:37:05,383 --> 00:37:08,091
I'm not talking about what changes,

687
00:37:08,174 --> 00:37:10,174
but about what stays the same.

688
00:37:10,466 --> 00:37:14,216
We're also custodians of an idea
that travels through time.

689
00:37:14,590 --> 00:37:17,465
Even when we doubt
and the church is empty.

690
00:37:18,383 --> 00:37:20,841
I knew it. You're the pastor.

691
00:37:20,924 --> 00:37:22,841
It's just an image.

692
00:37:23,174 --> 00:37:26,465
Believing in an idea
despite evidence to the contrary.

693
00:37:26,966 --> 00:37:29,090
That's what you'll tell them?

694
00:37:29,674 --> 00:37:33,006
I'll talk about what interests them.

695
00:37:33,382 --> 00:37:36,756
How digital publishing
is now a major part of our jobs.

696
00:37:37,965 --> 00:37:39,631
And soon the only one.

697
00:37:40,589 --> 00:37:42,548
Stay with your certitudes.

698
00:37:46,381 --> 00:37:48,048
Thank you, Alain Danielson.

699
00:37:51,923 --> 00:37:55,548
You challenge many preconceived ideas
in the publishing world.

700
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,256
We're talking about the future,
so it's speculation.

701
00:37:59,673 --> 00:38:02,548
But they're questions we can't avoid.

702
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,755
They must also raise questions
in our audience.

703
00:38:12,672 --> 00:38:13,880
Sorry to be petty.

704
00:38:13,964 --> 00:38:17,296
Isn't it about money?
Books are too expensive.

705
00:38:17,380 --> 00:38:20,046
Don't be sorry.
E-books are half the price.

706
00:38:20,130 --> 00:38:22,463
It's a big difference for retirees.

707
00:38:24,213 --> 00:38:26,921
It's true that virtual books

708
00:38:27,004 --> 00:38:29,213
cost nothing to make, but...

709
00:38:29,879 --> 00:38:31,754
is that really the problem?

710
00:38:32,171 --> 00:38:33,921
It's definitely part of it.

711
00:38:34,004 --> 00:38:37,671
Our society respects
only money and power.

712
00:38:37,754 --> 00:38:40,754
The more books cost,
the more respect they'll get.

713
00:38:41,212 --> 00:38:45,087
That's paradoxical.
You can't both democratize books

714
00:38:45,170 --> 00:38:46,878
and have prohibitive prices.

715
00:38:46,962 --> 00:38:49,837
Who told you I was for democratization?

716
00:38:50,711 --> 00:38:52,129
Just kidding.

717
00:38:52,212 --> 00:38:55,337
But glamorizing books more
wouldn't be bad.

718
00:38:58,253 --> 00:39:00,628
What about the espresso book machine?

719
00:39:01,336 --> 00:39:03,795
I'll translate for non-specialists.

720
00:39:03,878 --> 00:39:06,919
They're machines
for printing books on demand.

721
00:39:07,378 --> 00:39:09,378
To be installed in bookstores.

722
00:39:09,461 --> 00:39:13,253
You choose a book on a screen,
press a button,

723
00:39:13,336 --> 00:39:15,877
and it's printed.
It takes 5 minutes.

724
00:39:15,961 --> 00:39:18,294
Identical to a book off the press.

725
00:39:18,378 --> 00:39:20,377
"Identical" is pushing it.

726
00:39:20,460 --> 00:39:22,293
The nostalgia of bibliophiles?

727
00:39:22,752 --> 00:39:27,460
In the United States,
well-crafted hardbacks sell well.

728
00:39:28,252 --> 00:39:30,752
Once sold out,
it comes out in paperback.

729
00:40:12,084 --> 00:40:13,500
Stop!

730
00:40:13,875 --> 00:40:15,416
Let me go!

731
00:40:21,250 --> 00:40:23,667
Let me go. I'll be late.

732
00:40:25,749 --> 00:40:27,541
No, you're crazy.

733
00:40:28,707 --> 00:40:29,624
Stop.

734
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:05,915
Leonard?

735
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,247
Over there.

736
00:41:51,038 --> 00:41:52,121
I read your book.

737
00:41:52,579 --> 00:41:54,037
Took you long enough.

738
00:41:55,912 --> 00:41:57,204
You're pushing it.

739
00:41:58,371 --> 00:42:01,162
You really think I'm like Xenia?

740
00:42:01,579 --> 00:42:04,162
Xenia is a fictional character.

741
00:42:04,912 --> 00:42:07,662
A pretty transparent one, I think.

742
00:42:07,745 --> 00:42:10,246
If you know me, it's easy to see.

743
00:42:11,286 --> 00:42:13,954
It went right over Alain's head.

744
00:42:15,995 --> 00:42:17,495
What did you tell him?

745
00:42:18,411 --> 00:42:20,953
I hinted, very discreetly,

746
00:42:21,036 --> 00:42:24,578
that I was inspired
by Stephanie Volkowski.

747
00:42:26,786 --> 00:42:27,869
To cover my tracks!

748
00:42:27,953 --> 00:42:29,786
I remind you of Stephanie?

749
00:42:29,869 --> 00:42:33,203
No, her name just popped into my head.

750
00:42:33,286 --> 00:42:35,953
You like her sleazy talk-show?

751
00:42:36,036 --> 00:42:37,494
Not at all.

752
00:42:37,577 --> 00:42:38,577
Neither do I.

753
00:42:38,661 --> 00:42:40,994
Alain knows I had a fling with her.

754
00:42:41,077 --> 00:42:42,410
Nothing to brag about!

755
00:42:42,661 --> 00:42:47,160
It's a lot more credible
than if I'd said Taylor Swift.

756
00:42:47,244 --> 00:42:48,369
She's more flattering!

757
00:42:48,452 --> 00:42:52,327
And you took other liberties
with the facts.

758
00:42:52,952 --> 00:42:53,785
Oh yeah?

759
00:42:53,868 --> 00:42:55,077
Like what?

760
00:42:57,451 --> 00:42:59,660
The blowjob in the movie theater.

761
00:43:02,827 --> 00:43:04,118
Didn't that happen?

762
00:43:04,535 --> 00:43:05,701
Not really.

763
00:43:06,868 --> 00:43:10,743
Remember, it was during
Star Wars: the Force Awakens.

764
00:43:11,034 --> 00:43:13,243
I changed the title of the film!

765
00:43:13,700 --> 00:43:16,243
Haneke's White Ribbon is more chic!

766
00:43:16,742 --> 00:43:18,617
- I fictionalized.
- I'll say!

767
00:43:19,492 --> 00:43:22,867
Like the weekend in Seville?
During Holy Week?

768
00:43:23,118 --> 00:43:24,367
That's made up.

769
00:43:26,242 --> 00:43:29,117
It was the book fair... in Brive.

770
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,784
Seville is more glamourous.

771
00:43:32,158 --> 00:43:33,325
Better storytelling.

772
00:43:33,866 --> 00:43:35,908
I thought you hated storytelling.

773
00:43:35,991 --> 00:43:38,158
No, I think I'm walking that back.

774
00:43:38,242 --> 00:43:40,492
Step by step, I'm walking it back.

775
00:43:41,991 --> 00:43:44,075
Want to have a smoke?

776
00:43:52,783 --> 00:43:55,907
- Seville was with someone else?
- Never been.

777
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:59,699
It's all Wikipedia, Google.
Sounds real, right?

778
00:44:01,824 --> 00:44:04,824
I like it when they miss
the Penitents March

779
00:44:04,907 --> 00:44:07,573
and spend the day
in the Alcazar gardens.

780
00:44:08,116 --> 00:44:10,282
I hear they're beautiful.

781
00:44:13,448 --> 00:44:15,032
We can go to Seville.

782
00:44:15,365 --> 00:44:16,698
Whenever you want.

783
00:44:30,989 --> 00:44:32,572
Sure Alain didn't guess?

784
00:44:33,697 --> 00:44:35,031
I'm positive.

785
00:44:35,948 --> 00:44:37,531
But he won't publish it.

786
00:44:39,031 --> 00:44:41,155
That's a bit discouraging.

787
00:44:41,531 --> 00:44:43,864
I like it.
One of your better books.

788
00:44:45,405 --> 00:44:47,030
Did you tell him?

789
00:44:49,405 --> 00:44:50,531
Any effect?

790
00:44:52,489 --> 00:44:54,364
None. He barely reacted.

791
00:44:57,947 --> 00:44:59,571
Is he taking revenge?

792
00:45:00,780 --> 00:45:02,488
Think he knows something?

793
00:45:02,738 --> 00:45:05,321
No, I don't know... no, nothing at all.

794
00:45:05,404 --> 00:45:07,904
Consciously or unconsciously
he may suspect.

795
00:45:08,279 --> 00:45:11,154
- So for unconscious reasons...
- Active ones!

796
00:45:11,821 --> 00:45:14,404
- He won't publish me.
- Something like that.

797
00:45:24,529 --> 00:45:25,946
Valerie, how are you?

798
00:45:26,403 --> 00:45:28,362
- I'm late.
- We gave up on you.

799
00:45:28,904 --> 00:45:30,821
I just got in from Laval.

800
00:45:30,904 --> 00:45:32,737
Let me take your stuff.

801
00:45:34,153 --> 00:45:36,529
Hello, everyone. How are you?

802
00:45:36,945 --> 00:45:39,778
Sorry I'm late.
I just got in from Laval.

803
00:45:39,861 --> 00:45:42,820
- I kept calling.
- I ran out of battery.

804
00:45:42,903 --> 00:45:44,528
- Both phones?
- Yes!

805
00:45:44,611 --> 00:45:46,444
Charge them in a café!

806
00:45:46,528 --> 00:45:49,402
- I can charge one.
- I'd appreciate it.

807
00:45:53,361 --> 00:45:55,194
Excuse me... Where is Laval?

808
00:45:55,528 --> 00:45:57,694
It's in Mayenne, for your information.

809
00:45:58,236 --> 00:46:00,860
Sorry to be ignorant,
but where's Mayenne?

810
00:46:01,402 --> 00:46:04,111
Is that a joke?
You must be kidding.

811
00:46:04,610 --> 00:46:07,485
East? West? I'm serious...

812
00:46:07,985 --> 00:46:09,443
In the Massif Central.

813
00:46:09,527 --> 00:46:14,235
That's Pierre Laval,
Vichy Prime Minister from Massif Central.

814
00:46:15,027 --> 00:46:17,360
Shame on you! Laval.

815
00:46:18,318 --> 00:46:21,943
It's in the Pays de la Loire.
90 minutes by TGV.

816
00:46:22,026 --> 00:46:23,485
Ever heard of TGVs?

817
00:46:23,568 --> 00:46:25,360
I never took a TGV. Never!

818
00:46:27,859 --> 00:46:29,276
Cheer up!

819
00:46:29,818 --> 00:46:31,193
I need one.

820
00:46:31,276 --> 00:46:32,651
To all of you!

821
00:46:33,235 --> 00:46:37,068
And here's to The Swamp.
I found it interesting.

822
00:46:37,151 --> 00:46:38,859
The mix of fiction and reality.

823
00:46:41,567 --> 00:46:44,025
So? Did it go well?

824
00:46:44,109 --> 00:46:46,484
Thanks for asking.
It was a disaster.

825
00:46:46,567 --> 00:46:50,359
The steel mill owner is a brute.
The conflict got worse.

826
00:46:50,442 --> 00:46:52,775
It'll be bad for the election.

827
00:46:52,858 --> 00:46:54,900
But good for David's image.

828
00:46:54,983 --> 00:46:55,900
Meaning?

829
00:46:56,192 --> 00:46:59,483
Defending the strikers
makes his image less bland.

830
00:46:59,942 --> 00:47:03,733
It's no image. He's a socialist.
It's why he's in politics.

831
00:47:04,399 --> 00:47:06,316
He's in politics to get elected.

832
00:47:07,024 --> 00:47:10,316
Sure! Stop agreeing!
Sure he's in it to get elected.

833
00:47:10,399 --> 00:47:12,316
It's obvious. Why else?

834
00:47:12,399 --> 00:47:14,816
To lose?
Obviously he wants to win.

835
00:47:15,525 --> 00:47:19,482
To get elected, you manage your image.
He's good at that.

836
00:47:19,857 --> 00:47:21,316
He has convictions.

837
00:47:21,816 --> 00:47:25,232
And he lets them be known.
He communicates.

838
00:47:25,607 --> 00:47:27,774
A picture with strikers helps.

839
00:47:28,398 --> 00:47:30,524
You're so cynical.

840
00:47:40,524 --> 00:47:41,398
It's ready.

841
00:47:41,482 --> 00:47:44,065
We can't do politics as usual.

842
00:47:44,148 --> 00:47:45,856
It's a new era.

843
00:47:46,190 --> 00:47:47,689
So what do we do?

844
00:47:47,773 --> 00:47:49,439
Change the software.

845
00:47:49,523 --> 00:47:52,356
The software's always the same: reality.

846
00:47:52,439 --> 00:47:54,272
Taxes, work, school, security.

847
00:47:54,606 --> 00:47:57,231
- It's more complicated.
- It's simple.

848
00:47:57,314 --> 00:47:59,564
There's real and perceived temperature.

849
00:47:59,648 --> 00:48:02,272
Real and perceived are different things.

850
00:48:03,397 --> 00:48:05,189
We need to work on both.

851
00:48:05,481 --> 00:48:07,897
But what drives the perceived?

852
00:48:07,980 --> 00:48:08,939
Information.

853
00:48:09,022 --> 00:48:10,980
A vague mood.

854
00:48:12,106 --> 00:48:13,939
Information no longer exists.

855
00:48:14,022 --> 00:48:16,146
It does. You can't say that.

856
00:48:16,814 --> 00:48:19,021
Just a supermarket of information.

857
00:48:19,105 --> 00:48:22,688
Everyone does his own shopping
with his own cart.

858
00:48:22,772 --> 00:48:25,771
Internet is more than that.
We choose where we shop.

859
00:48:26,021 --> 00:48:29,604
We choose what we read
to validate our opinions.

860
00:48:29,687 --> 00:48:33,646
We can be demanding choosing sources.
I've always filtered mine.

861
00:48:39,687 --> 00:48:40,979
What's so funny?

862
00:48:41,771 --> 00:48:43,145
A stupid joke.

863
00:48:43,229 --> 00:48:46,937
A friend sent me the poster
of Star Wars: The Force Awakens.

864
00:48:47,312 --> 00:48:48,604
Share it with us.

865
00:48:48,853 --> 00:48:52,187
It's not interesting.
It's hard to explain.

866
00:48:52,562 --> 00:48:54,937
One device-free night, please.

867
00:48:55,187 --> 00:48:56,686
I'm turning it off.

868
00:48:59,561 --> 00:49:01,311
Can I steal one from you?

869
00:49:01,394 --> 00:49:03,645
- They're slims.
- Fine.

870
00:49:03,728 --> 00:49:05,645
You don't mind?

871
00:49:09,812 --> 00:49:13,394
I agree with Valerie.
Politics is boots on the ground.

872
00:49:13,686 --> 00:49:14,645
Not only.

873
00:49:15,811 --> 00:49:18,644
But that's where you have to start.

874
00:49:18,727 --> 00:49:21,685
You need concrete results
on that ground of yours.

875
00:49:21,936 --> 00:49:23,477
When? Right away?

876
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:24,894
Yes, right away.

877
00:49:24,977 --> 00:49:26,977
But politics takes time.

878
00:49:28,019 --> 00:49:31,727
This isn't against David.
He's very commendable.

879
00:49:32,143 --> 00:49:34,393
- "Commendable"...
- I like David.

880
00:49:34,477 --> 00:49:37,519
But politicians' words
rarely become fact, right?

881
00:49:38,310 --> 00:49:40,851
We stop believing. We lose trust.

882
00:49:40,935 --> 00:49:43,810
Who's losing trust? You?

883
00:49:44,102 --> 00:49:45,143
No, people.

884
00:49:45,227 --> 00:49:47,102
People? What people?

885
00:49:47,392 --> 00:49:49,267
Just people.

886
00:49:49,351 --> 00:49:50,893
You! What do you think?

887
00:49:51,518 --> 00:49:52,935
Nothing. I'm taking note.

888
00:49:53,018 --> 00:49:56,226
You think nothing.
That's way too easy.

889
00:49:56,476 --> 00:49:57,684
I'm cold.

890
00:50:04,683 --> 00:50:06,934
Public opinion
plays out day by day.

891
00:50:07,309 --> 00:50:10,767
The frontline is all the spin you hate.
In real time.

892
00:50:11,850 --> 00:50:13,850
So it's no holds barred?

893
00:50:14,308 --> 00:50:16,017
We call it post-truth.

894
00:50:16,683 --> 00:50:19,308
We've been in post-truth for a while.

895
00:50:19,391 --> 00:50:21,308
What do you call post-truth?

896
00:50:21,933 --> 00:50:26,391
People living in a fictional world
ruled by their prejudices.

897
00:50:28,225 --> 00:50:30,183
They're not that naive!

898
00:50:30,266 --> 00:50:34,016
We all need certitudes
in an uncertain world.

899
00:50:34,390 --> 00:50:37,516
Don't they see through the spin?

900
00:50:37,766 --> 00:50:41,974
I think they X-ray everything
in the sharpest way.

901
00:50:42,599 --> 00:50:43,808
You're an optimist.

902
00:50:43,891 --> 00:50:45,099
Not at all.

903
00:50:45,182 --> 00:50:48,182
I think this lucidity serves
no purpose whatsoever.

904
00:50:50,474 --> 00:50:52,723
They exhausted me big time.

905
00:50:52,807 --> 00:50:53,765
Why?

906
00:50:54,307 --> 00:50:55,932
It was really nice.

907
00:50:56,015 --> 00:50:57,556
You found that nice?

908
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,598
It was anything but!

909
00:50:59,681 --> 00:51:02,890
All night long
bitching about politics and David.

910
00:51:02,973 --> 00:51:04,348
Some water?

911
00:51:04,431 --> 00:51:05,473
I'd love some.

912
00:51:06,098 --> 00:51:09,056
Don't be so thin-skinned.
It wasn't mean.

913
00:51:09,139 --> 00:51:12,056
- It was insidious and sneaky.
- Mostly Carsten.

914
00:51:12,139 --> 00:51:14,515
- The others too.
- Much less.

915
00:51:14,598 --> 00:51:15,556
Maybe.

916
00:51:15,889 --> 00:51:19,181
I like Carsten.
He's a little grumpy,

917
00:51:19,264 --> 00:51:23,056
but his book The Swamp isn't
irrelevant.

918
00:51:23,139 --> 00:51:24,014
It's good.

919
00:51:24,098 --> 00:51:27,222
Alain hates it.
He didn't want to publish it.

920
00:51:27,305 --> 00:51:29,931
It's selling like hotcakes.

921
00:51:30,014 --> 00:51:32,222
Now he thinks he can spout off.

922
00:51:32,555 --> 00:51:36,263
I don't agree at all.
He knows the world of politics.

923
00:51:36,347 --> 00:51:39,846
- Admit it.
- He was a talk-radio pundit.

924
00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:41,679
He's been on the ground.

925
00:51:41,763 --> 00:51:44,263
Stop talking about the ground!

926
00:51:44,347 --> 00:51:47,513
No, he hasn't.
Best case, he knows people who have.

927
00:51:47,596 --> 00:51:49,180
You took it badly.

928
00:51:49,262 --> 00:51:51,805
Yes, I did.
Why would I take it well?

929
00:51:51,888 --> 00:51:55,262
I do a tough job as best as I can
and get insulted!

930
00:51:55,346 --> 00:51:57,221
No one's insulting you.

931
00:51:58,179 --> 00:51:59,804
Did you hear their tone?

932
00:52:00,054 --> 00:52:03,012
How they spoke to me?
That contempt of politics?

933
00:52:03,096 --> 00:52:05,262
That's how people talk nowadays...

934
00:52:05,845 --> 00:52:07,678
But that's no reason.

935
00:52:07,762 --> 00:52:08,720
Stay here.

936
00:52:09,012 --> 00:52:10,553
Stop it, please.

937
00:52:11,304 --> 00:52:12,262
Let go.

938
00:52:17,470 --> 00:52:19,929
It wasn't against you.
More about David.

939
00:52:20,011 --> 00:52:21,595
I know. All the more so.

940
00:52:23,095 --> 00:52:25,386
- You know David.
- Sure I do.

941
00:52:25,470 --> 00:52:26,928
What do you think of him?

942
00:52:27,261 --> 00:52:31,053
I find him hard-working.
I find him honest. I find him...

943
00:52:32,220 --> 00:52:34,511
- Involved.
- We agree on that.

944
00:52:35,261 --> 00:52:38,511
But voting for him
isn't much of a turn-on.

945
00:52:40,427 --> 00:52:42,636
You vote to get turned on?

946
00:52:43,928 --> 00:52:45,385
So?

947
00:52:46,385 --> 00:52:48,344
I think he's a good guy.

948
00:52:48,427 --> 00:52:50,968
But besides the sympathy
I feel for him,

949
00:52:51,052 --> 00:52:53,802
he doesn't exactly embody my politics.

950
00:52:53,885 --> 00:52:55,885
Who embodies them?

951
00:52:56,177 --> 00:52:57,718
I don't know...

952
00:52:58,593 --> 00:52:59,968
Genghis Kahn, yes.

953
00:53:00,260 --> 00:53:01,301
Really?

954
00:53:01,384 --> 00:53:03,094
Attila the Hun, yes.

955
00:53:03,176 --> 00:53:04,301
Atilla the Hun?

956
00:53:06,301 --> 00:53:07,301
Jack the Ripper!

957
00:53:07,384 --> 00:53:09,760
Better!
Jack the Ripper, for sure.

958
00:53:10,842 --> 00:53:11,760
Him for sure.

959
00:53:15,759 --> 00:53:20,134
I was never a supporter
of law and order.

960
00:53:21,509 --> 00:53:23,009
You prefer disorder.

961
00:53:24,051 --> 00:53:26,675
I have a poor relationship
to authority.

962
00:53:29,550 --> 00:53:31,133
What's the opposite of authority?

963
00:53:33,550 --> 00:53:34,925
Chaos.

964
00:53:35,008 --> 00:53:37,383
Chaos is better. You prefer it.

965
00:53:38,050 --> 00:53:41,300
Theoretically, yes.
It's more productive.

966
00:53:42,383 --> 00:53:43,925
"Theoretically, yes..."

967
00:53:46,008 --> 00:53:47,300
Practically,

968
00:53:47,382 --> 00:53:50,841
I don't think it works that well.

969
00:53:50,925 --> 00:53:52,591
Are you cheating on me?

970
00:53:54,925 --> 00:53:56,132
Why do you say that?

971
00:53:56,382 --> 00:53:58,882
It popped into my head earlier.

972
00:53:58,965 --> 00:54:00,882
I didn't want to hold it in.

973
00:54:05,508 --> 00:54:06,382
When?

974
00:54:06,715 --> 00:54:08,965
When you got that text message.

975
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,548
That's nonsense.

976
00:54:12,632 --> 00:54:14,298
The way you smiled.

977
00:54:14,381 --> 00:54:15,256
What way?

978
00:54:15,340 --> 00:54:17,882
And you erased it immediately.

979
00:54:18,673 --> 00:54:20,507
I did it automatically.

980
00:54:20,590 --> 00:54:21,799
Spare me.

981
00:54:22,340 --> 00:54:23,632
You're insinuating...

982
00:54:23,715 --> 00:54:24,715
Do you love me?

983
00:54:29,465 --> 00:54:30,340
Yes.

984
00:54:33,631 --> 00:54:35,090
Because I love you.

985
00:54:36,798 --> 00:54:37,798
I really do.

986
00:54:45,422 --> 00:54:46,464
Even...

987
00:54:47,589 --> 00:54:52,005
- Even though we never agree...
- Because we agree on nothing.

988
00:55:14,379 --> 00:55:15,796
What a pleasure!

989
00:55:17,254 --> 00:55:20,587
It wasn't too hard to find?
The signs aren't clear.

990
00:55:20,670 --> 00:55:21,796
We have GPS.

991
00:55:21,879 --> 00:55:22,921
How are you?

992
00:55:23,587 --> 00:55:24,879
We've missed you.

993
00:55:24,962 --> 00:55:27,129
We found this on the way.

994
00:55:27,212 --> 00:55:28,796
It may not be any good.

995
00:55:28,879 --> 00:55:31,378
The shop I know was closed.

996
00:55:31,462 --> 00:55:33,003
It's the intention...

997
00:55:39,545 --> 00:55:41,961
Guy Fonville, Alain Danielson.

998
00:55:42,045 --> 00:55:44,836
- We met at Science-Po?
- Two years apart.

999
00:55:46,503 --> 00:55:48,003
Selena needs no introduction.

1000
00:55:48,669 --> 00:55:51,252
I saw you in Season 2 of Collision.

1001
00:55:52,087 --> 00:55:53,961
- What's Collision?
- Don't know it?

1002
00:55:54,045 --> 00:55:55,920
An amazing series.
You'd love it.

1003
00:55:56,336 --> 00:55:58,044
Collusion, not Collision.

1004
00:55:58,836 --> 00:56:00,544
Collusion, that's it.

1005
00:56:03,461 --> 00:56:05,086
Much better title.

1006
00:56:05,503 --> 00:56:06,461
I'm totally hooked.

1007
00:56:06,543 --> 00:56:09,252
Riveting.
We're kept in suspense.

1008
00:56:10,127 --> 00:56:12,752
It has nothing to envy American series.

1009
00:56:13,252 --> 00:56:15,502
Not too hard, playing a policewoman?

1010
00:56:16,668 --> 00:56:19,085
Not a policewoman, but a...

1011
00:56:19,418 --> 00:56:21,502
crisis management expert.

1012
00:56:25,418 --> 00:56:28,168
It's a very physical part.
Strong woman.

1013
00:56:28,585 --> 00:56:31,001
It's nice to act with your body.

1014
00:56:31,085 --> 00:56:34,667
It's interesting to play
a character over time.

1015
00:56:35,584 --> 00:56:38,918
And now...
people stop me in the street.

1016
00:56:39,001 --> 00:56:41,167
- More than before?
- No comparison.

1017
00:56:41,709 --> 00:56:43,667
Lars Noren at the Odeon

1018
00:56:43,751 --> 00:56:45,501
didn't hit the mainstream.

1019
00:56:46,667 --> 00:56:48,375
Selena, some coffee?

1020
00:56:50,958 --> 00:56:52,917
And you, Alain?

1021
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:53,917
See the match?

1022
00:56:54,666 --> 00:56:55,541
Were you there?

1023
00:56:56,375 --> 00:56:57,875
I was so pissed off.

1024
00:56:57,958 --> 00:57:01,583
- Penalty kick after 5 minutes.
- Then fuckup after fuckup.

1025
00:57:01,666 --> 00:57:03,084
Out on their feet!

1026
00:57:05,249 --> 00:57:07,041
Know who Xavier Dehoux is?

1027
00:57:07,291 --> 00:57:08,541
Telecom guy.

1028
00:57:08,625 --> 00:57:12,083
Lots of other stuff too.
He's very likable.

1029
00:57:12,416 --> 00:57:14,416
- Big indie rock fan.
- Really?

1030
00:57:15,749 --> 00:57:17,832
He has an unusual career path.

1031
00:57:18,083 --> 00:57:22,707
Started with telephone chat rooms,
moved onto dating sites.

1032
00:57:23,041 --> 00:57:25,373
I read his profile in the paper.

1033
00:57:25,791 --> 00:57:28,832
He wants to develop a media division.

1034
00:57:29,540 --> 00:57:31,582
He needs content.

1035
00:57:31,916 --> 00:57:33,791
For mobile phones?

1036
00:57:33,874 --> 00:57:36,165
He's sitting on a big war chest.

1037
00:57:36,248 --> 00:57:38,499
He's looking for a new acquisition.

1038
00:57:40,290 --> 00:57:41,790
Are you selling?

1039
00:57:42,664 --> 00:57:44,790
Publishing isn't very high-growth.

1040
00:57:45,623 --> 00:57:47,998
It's not losing money either.

1041
00:57:48,082 --> 00:57:50,706
We said 3 years to reach our target.

1042
00:57:50,790 --> 00:57:52,664
Did we reach it? No...

1043
00:57:52,748 --> 00:57:54,831
You know the figures, no but...

1044
00:57:55,081 --> 00:57:56,956
we'll make it.
We're on track.

1045
00:57:57,039 --> 00:57:59,831
My shareholders want profits,
not tracks.

1046
00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:02,247
It's prestige.

1047
00:58:02,331 --> 00:58:05,872
Prestige has value if you turn a profit.
Not my case.

1048
00:58:06,539 --> 00:58:08,372
So why invest in publishing?

1049
00:58:08,789 --> 00:58:11,331
E-books were supposed to take off.

1050
00:58:11,413 --> 00:58:14,206
According to all the analysts.
You first.

1051
00:58:14,288 --> 00:58:16,789
- They said it was the future.
- It will be.

1052
00:58:16,872 --> 00:58:19,080
But the opposite's happening.

1053
00:58:19,371 --> 00:58:22,580
Sales in free-fall. Down 15% last year.

1054
00:58:22,954 --> 00:58:24,913
According to American stats.

1055
00:58:25,497 --> 00:58:27,080
15% is a lot.

1056
00:58:27,163 --> 00:58:28,622
It's a real trend.

1057
00:58:29,371 --> 00:58:30,871
Due to what?

1058
00:58:31,205 --> 00:58:33,454
Prices up, readership down.

1059
00:58:33,704 --> 00:58:35,662
Still cheaper than books.

1060
00:58:35,746 --> 00:58:38,871
Perhaps, but...
we've reached a tipping point.

1061
00:58:39,370 --> 00:58:41,913
But you know what?
Book sales are up!

1062
00:58:42,954 --> 00:58:44,496
It's inconsistent.

1063
00:58:45,913 --> 00:58:48,204
Reading habits change quickly.

1064
00:58:48,662 --> 00:58:51,621
What's really taking off
is the audio-book.

1065
00:58:51,870 --> 00:58:53,079
I've seen that.

1066
00:58:54,162 --> 00:58:56,870
Audio-books read by stars.

1067
00:58:56,953 --> 00:58:58,787
Exactly. Read by stars.

1068
00:58:59,079 --> 00:59:01,495
We read more and more on tablets,

1069
00:59:01,578 --> 00:59:03,661
on smartphones,
less on e-readers.

1070
00:59:03,745 --> 00:59:04,912
Smartphones?

1071
00:59:04,995 --> 00:59:08,411
It's wild!
People read books on smartphones!

1072
00:59:10,661 --> 00:59:12,869
And so, the synergy with telecom.

1073
00:59:13,994 --> 00:59:16,161
- Exactly.
- And Dehoux's offer?

1074
00:59:18,286 --> 00:59:21,744
Market-wise,
he needs to make a statement.

1075
00:59:22,369 --> 00:59:23,952
It's time to sell.

1076
00:59:26,619 --> 00:59:28,702
Sell Vertheuil Editions?

1077
00:59:30,619 --> 00:59:32,744
I'm tempted, old chap...

1078
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,118
I'd be able to exit with my head high

1079
00:59:36,202 --> 00:59:38,785
and turn a considerable profit.

1080
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,077
I wanted to ask you first.
What do you think?

1081
00:59:44,993 --> 00:59:46,327
About selling?

1082
00:59:47,451 --> 00:59:48,659
E-books.

1083
00:59:49,035 --> 00:59:52,701
Is there any potential at all, or...

1084
00:59:53,367 --> 00:59:54,451
are they done?

1085
00:59:55,868 --> 00:59:58,826
Selena read
Leonard Spiegel's manuscript.

1086
00:59:59,117 --> 01:00:01,201
Really? It's news to me.

1087
01:00:01,659 --> 01:00:03,618
She says it's one of his best.

1088
01:00:04,658 --> 01:00:06,451
Yes, that's what I think.

1089
01:00:06,534 --> 01:00:07,825
I liked Foundation.

1090
01:00:08,617 --> 01:00:10,076
That was ages ago.

1091
01:00:10,450 --> 01:00:12,201
Police Report too.

1092
01:00:13,034 --> 01:00:14,742
We didn't sell many.

1093
01:00:15,241 --> 01:00:16,325
What's the title?

1094
01:00:18,867 --> 01:00:19,867
I can't remember.

1095
01:00:20,158 --> 01:00:21,450
Full Stop.

1096
01:00:21,533 --> 01:00:23,991
That's it. Full Stop.

1097
01:00:27,033 --> 01:00:28,824
What did he want?

1098
01:00:28,908 --> 01:00:29,908
To sell.

1099
01:00:30,241 --> 01:00:32,116
You get sold with the furniture?

1100
01:00:33,574 --> 01:00:37,033
New owner, new strategy.
I don't see myself staying.

1101
01:00:37,532 --> 01:00:39,365
His mind is made up?

1102
01:00:40,116 --> 01:00:41,449
He's negotiating...

1103
01:00:44,699 --> 01:00:45,866
with Dehoux.

1104
01:00:47,282 --> 01:00:48,616
What's Dehoux?

1105
01:00:49,199 --> 01:00:50,699
Forget it.

1106
01:00:50,782 --> 01:00:53,365
Opaque financier,
big digital fortune.

1107
01:00:56,823 --> 01:01:00,615
You said the future of publishing
was full digital.

1108
01:01:02,490 --> 01:01:04,865
Figures say the opposite now.

1109
01:01:05,782 --> 01:01:07,490
Make up your mind.

1110
01:01:14,323 --> 01:01:16,656
You played your cards well. Bravo.

1111
01:01:16,739 --> 01:01:18,031
What cards?

1112
01:01:18,114 --> 01:01:20,073
Leonard's book, of course.

1113
01:01:20,947 --> 01:01:22,530
I'm not forcing you.

1114
01:01:22,781 --> 01:01:24,864
Can't I say I like it?

1115
01:01:24,947 --> 01:01:26,655
I'm not arguing.

1116
01:01:28,655 --> 01:01:30,447
Why won't you publish it?

1117
01:01:31,113 --> 01:01:32,906
Why do you want me to?

1118
01:01:34,197 --> 01:01:35,405
Honestly?

1119
01:01:35,489 --> 01:01:37,113
No need to be honest.

1120
01:01:37,197 --> 01:01:40,238
He puts himself on the line.
First time.

1121
01:01:41,447 --> 01:01:43,780
Always the same navel-gazing.

1122
01:01:43,863 --> 01:01:45,238
It's more than that.

1123
01:01:46,988 --> 01:01:48,280
Pump number 5.

1124
01:01:49,362 --> 01:01:50,488
This too.

1125
01:01:51,072 --> 01:01:52,113
That too.

1126
01:01:53,404 --> 01:01:55,237
Dragging himself in the mud

1127
01:01:55,321 --> 01:01:58,196
authorizes him to drag others.
I'm fed up.

1128
01:01:58,279 --> 01:01:59,863
Less in this one.

1129
01:02:01,613 --> 01:02:03,529
Can you turn the light on?

1130
01:02:08,237 --> 01:02:09,695
Where's Martin?

1131
01:02:10,279 --> 01:02:12,321
He's at my Mom's.

1132
01:02:13,528 --> 01:02:15,528
When is she bringing him back?

1133
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,195
I don't know.
They went to an amusement park.

1134
01:02:19,612 --> 01:02:21,779
Will he have time for homework?

1135
01:02:21,862 --> 01:02:24,695
Their bus must be stuck in traffic.

1136
01:02:36,944 --> 01:02:38,778
Not so loud!

1137
01:02:41,070 --> 01:02:42,694
It's hurting my ears.

1138
01:02:42,986 --> 01:02:43,986
Sorry.

1139
01:02:44,611 --> 01:02:45,694
Leonard's floundering.

1140
01:02:45,778 --> 01:02:47,611
I hate floundering with him.

1141
01:02:47,694 --> 01:02:49,943
A new publisher may do him good.

1142
01:02:50,027 --> 01:02:50,902
You're wrong.

1143
01:02:51,235 --> 01:02:55,444
He sets himself free and you drop him.
The book will be liked.

1144
01:02:57,027 --> 01:02:58,443
What makes you say that?

1145
01:03:01,777 --> 01:03:04,152
You can't see.
You have no perspective.

1146
01:03:04,401 --> 01:03:07,401
It's your relationship that's worn out.

1147
01:03:09,068 --> 01:03:10,777
I hate his view of women.

1148
01:03:12,151 --> 01:03:13,151
What bothers you?

1149
01:03:14,318 --> 01:03:17,443
Who's that girl
with the talk show on Channel 8?

1150
01:03:18,068 --> 01:03:19,276
Stephanie.

1151
01:03:19,650 --> 01:03:21,318
Stephanie Volkowski, right.

1152
01:03:22,234 --> 01:03:24,276
He slept with her.
Common knowledge.

1153
01:03:25,650 --> 01:03:26,734
What about it?

1154
01:03:27,317 --> 01:03:30,233
We recognize her right off.
With another name.

1155
01:03:30,609 --> 01:03:31,567
Xenia?

1156
01:03:31,650 --> 01:03:32,942
It's transparent.

1157
01:03:33,650 --> 01:03:35,817
I didn't think of her at all.

1158
01:03:37,025 --> 01:03:38,442
You're the only one.

1159
01:03:40,275 --> 01:03:44,025
So? It concerns 10 people
looking for keys to nothing.

1160
01:03:44,108 --> 01:03:45,649
How about some tea?

1161
01:03:47,608 --> 01:03:48,524
I'd love some.

1162
01:04:07,107 --> 01:04:10,482
The White Ribbon scene
didn't bother you?

1163
01:04:12,274 --> 01:04:13,232
Excellent film.

1164
01:04:13,523 --> 01:04:15,191
We saw it together.

1165
01:04:15,857 --> 01:04:17,356
Oh yeah, right.

1166
01:04:18,815 --> 01:04:19,815
It's very crude.

1167
01:04:21,231 --> 01:04:22,398
What they do?

1168
01:04:23,482 --> 01:04:25,856
His complacent description.

1169
01:04:27,315 --> 01:04:28,440
So what?

1170
01:04:29,731 --> 01:04:31,814
Embarrassing for her, isn't it?

1171
01:04:36,356 --> 01:04:37,397
That's your issue?

1172
01:04:38,564 --> 01:04:40,689
Like the Turkish bath scene
in Seville.

1173
01:04:43,272 --> 01:04:44,689
What's the problem?

1174
01:04:45,189 --> 01:04:46,397
He objectifies her.

1175
01:04:46,814 --> 01:04:48,522
Maybe she likes it?

1176
01:04:49,105 --> 01:04:50,731
That's what he hints at.

1177
01:04:51,481 --> 01:04:53,522
I have a problem with that.

1178
01:04:54,272 --> 01:04:56,897
The question is:
is it good literature?

1179
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,563
Sorry, I feel uneasy
for Stephanie Volkowski.

1180
01:05:03,688 --> 01:05:04,646
Off the subject!

1181
01:05:05,022 --> 01:05:07,229
I see her show
and think White Ribbon.

1182
01:05:07,772 --> 01:05:08,688
Stop!

1183
01:05:08,980 --> 01:05:10,188
It disturbs me.

1184
01:05:10,271 --> 01:05:11,354
Stop, Alain.

1185
01:05:14,313 --> 01:05:16,438
Now I have no choice
but to publish it.

1186
01:05:17,771 --> 01:05:19,521
Do as you please.

1187
01:05:21,687 --> 01:05:24,271
First time
Marc-Antoine shows interest in a book.

1188
01:05:24,645 --> 01:05:27,021
His girlfriend is the fan.

1189
01:05:27,937 --> 01:05:29,353
Same thing.

1190
01:05:43,603 --> 01:05:45,312
I agree with you.

1191
01:05:46,978 --> 01:05:48,936
I haven't persuaded Alain yet.

1192
01:05:49,686 --> 01:05:50,853
Take care.

1193
01:06:17,477 --> 01:06:18,643
Can I have my key?

1194
01:06:22,310 --> 01:06:24,685
Haven't changed your mind?
It's over.

1195
01:06:25,435 --> 01:06:26,685
Because of Alain?

1196
01:06:29,060 --> 01:06:30,310
I read your texts.

1197
01:06:33,226 --> 01:06:34,310
Since when?

1198
01:06:35,517 --> 01:06:36,768
Since always.

1199
01:06:41,559 --> 01:06:42,434
Want one?

1200
01:06:42,934 --> 01:06:44,434
No, I want nothing.

1201
01:06:45,601 --> 01:06:47,059
It's not Alain.

1202
01:06:47,350 --> 01:06:48,601
A little.

1203
01:06:49,434 --> 01:06:51,142
I thought you prefer girls.

1204
01:06:51,225 --> 01:06:52,892
I do.

1205
01:06:53,267 --> 01:06:54,641
But not only.

1206
01:06:56,267 --> 01:06:57,476
Is it serious with Alain?

1207
01:06:57,767 --> 01:06:59,558
It'll wear off.
On both sides.

1208
01:06:59,975 --> 01:07:01,683
But we'll stay friends.

1209
01:07:02,433 --> 01:07:03,975
You won't stay with him?

1210
01:07:07,391 --> 01:07:08,933
He's married with a kid.

1211
01:07:09,017 --> 01:07:10,933
He doesn't intend to leave them.

1212
01:07:11,475 --> 01:07:12,808
It's fine like that.

1213
01:07:14,224 --> 01:07:15,683
I'm leaving anyway.

1214
01:07:17,516 --> 01:07:18,682
For where?

1215
01:07:19,807 --> 01:07:21,266
It's confidential.

1216
01:07:22,058 --> 01:07:23,391
I met a headhunter.

1217
01:07:24,682 --> 01:07:25,807
Tempting offer.

1218
01:07:26,432 --> 01:07:29,891
Head of marketing for a media group.
All of Europe.

1219
01:07:32,307 --> 01:07:34,682
- Where will you be based?
- London.

1220
01:07:35,182 --> 01:07:36,640
I used to live there.

1221
01:07:38,766 --> 01:07:40,848
Thank you, sir.
Have a nice evening.

1222
01:07:51,306 --> 01:07:55,306
I saw your report
on the future of literary criticism.

1223
01:07:57,181 --> 01:07:58,639
Did you read it?

1224
01:07:59,598 --> 01:08:02,264
I leafed through it...
Not too optimistic.

1225
01:08:03,056 --> 01:08:05,722
It's factual, stuff I found online.

1226
01:08:06,056 --> 01:08:08,222
Take what you like.
Toss the rest.

1227
01:08:08,473 --> 01:08:10,014
Is that the trend?

1228
01:08:10,097 --> 01:08:13,264
The role of critic as trendsetter
has weakened.

1229
01:08:13,889 --> 01:08:16,014
We must be fast and pro-active.

1230
01:08:16,097 --> 01:08:18,805
Same rate
as newspapers losing readers?

1231
01:08:19,138 --> 01:08:21,972
But they usually switch
to digital editions.

1232
01:08:22,430 --> 01:08:23,680
Or to blogs.

1233
01:08:24,180 --> 01:08:25,597
What's new, then?

1234
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,096
You write differently for the net.

1235
01:08:28,346 --> 01:08:31,555
For instance,
you optimize the use of keywords.

1236
01:08:32,388 --> 01:08:34,512
To get indexed better
by the robots.

1237
01:08:35,721 --> 01:08:37,637
Sorry... what robots?

1238
01:08:37,929 --> 01:08:40,804
They manage info flows
for search engines.

1239
01:08:41,220 --> 01:08:43,096
And you'll test titles' virality.

1240
01:08:43,637 --> 01:08:45,929
If it's not viral, you change it.

1241
01:08:46,012 --> 01:08:47,179
Of course.

1242
01:08:47,721 --> 01:08:49,220
Where are you heading?

1243
01:08:49,304 --> 01:08:52,887
Indexed, viral or not,
critics remain trend-setting.

1244
01:08:52,970 --> 01:08:54,678
To a certain extent.

1245
01:08:55,054 --> 01:08:58,095
Their subjectivity
isn't that of your targets.

1246
01:08:58,179 --> 01:09:00,095
- I have no targets.
- You do.

1247
01:09:01,636 --> 01:09:04,012
You publish books to sell them.

1248
01:09:04,095 --> 01:09:06,762
You want to target their audience.

1249
01:09:08,012 --> 01:09:09,720
That's not my approach.

1250
01:09:10,094 --> 01:09:11,720
It has been for a while.

1251
01:09:11,803 --> 01:09:15,969
Zero in on your audience
rather than pampering critics.

1252
01:09:16,678 --> 01:09:19,553
No need for a middleman's subjectivity.

1253
01:09:19,802 --> 01:09:21,511
Now we have algorithms.

1254
01:09:22,802 --> 01:09:24,594
What do they tell me?

1255
01:09:25,510 --> 01:09:27,635
They process your personal data.

1256
01:09:29,302 --> 01:09:31,427
If you bought diapers last week,

1257
01:09:31,510 --> 01:09:33,343
planned a trip to Israel,

1258
01:09:33,427 --> 01:09:37,343
saw an Indonesian film on Arte
or streamed Dany Boon.

1259
01:09:37,635 --> 01:09:40,343
- Googled a gay icon...
- I get it.

1260
01:09:40,843 --> 01:09:43,510
They target you, anticipate your tastes.

1261
01:09:44,427 --> 01:09:47,718
You're predictable.
Look at your Amazon recommendations.

1262
01:09:47,801 --> 01:09:48,885
It works.

1263
01:09:49,718 --> 01:09:51,593
Soon we'll put more trust

1264
01:09:52,551 --> 01:09:55,217
in algorithms based on consumer habits,

1265
01:09:55,634 --> 01:09:57,968
than in smug critics.

1266
01:09:58,968 --> 01:10:00,176
You're harsh.

1267
01:10:00,843 --> 01:10:03,842
All positions of authority
are now being questioned.

1268
01:10:03,925 --> 01:10:06,884
Algorithms won't fuel the conversation.

1269
01:10:08,301 --> 01:10:12,051
Analysis, reflection, art history...
That's different.

1270
01:10:12,134 --> 01:10:16,258
We'll always have opinion blogs for
that. I'm talking sales.

1271
01:10:16,508 --> 01:10:19,051
Sales-wise,
it's never a done deal.

1272
01:10:20,216 --> 01:10:21,383
Surveys say otherwise.

1273
01:10:23,341 --> 01:10:24,550
What do they say?

1274
01:10:24,884 --> 01:10:28,425
That CD buyers, moviegoers, readers

1275
01:10:28,966 --> 01:10:31,592
react to likes
or links of opinion leaders

1276
01:10:31,674 --> 01:10:33,924
on Twitter, or Facebook friends.

1277
01:10:34,008 --> 01:10:36,549
You know that most of those likes

1278
01:10:36,799 --> 01:10:38,883
are generated by paid hackers.

1279
01:10:39,549 --> 01:10:41,591
Still, they play on network habits

1280
01:10:41,674 --> 01:10:43,841
that tap into modern sensibilities.

1281
01:10:45,632 --> 01:10:46,799
Is this good?

1282
01:10:49,841 --> 01:10:51,049
I have no opinion.

1283
01:10:58,466 --> 01:11:01,049
- Stopping by the office?
- To get my stuff.

1284
01:11:01,132 --> 01:11:02,299
You?

1285
01:11:02,381 --> 01:11:04,673
I left my car keys there.

1286
01:11:14,298 --> 01:11:15,506
This was on my desk.

1287
01:11:18,756 --> 01:11:19,590
A gift.

1288
01:11:21,298 --> 01:11:22,256
For what?

1289
01:11:24,131 --> 01:11:25,173
You know.

1290
01:11:25,298 --> 01:11:26,214
No.

1291
01:11:26,756 --> 01:11:27,922
Farewell present.

1292
01:11:28,297 --> 01:11:29,547
Why farewell?

1293
01:11:29,881 --> 01:11:31,338
Because you're leaving.

1294
01:11:38,505 --> 01:11:39,963
How do you know?

1295
01:11:41,422 --> 01:11:42,755
I know.

1296
01:11:43,464 --> 01:11:44,755
For a while?

1297
01:11:45,422 --> 01:11:46,464
In real time.

1298
01:11:48,338 --> 01:11:50,713
You know Emeline Rittenberg?

1299
01:11:52,796 --> 01:11:54,130
My replacement?

1300
01:11:54,212 --> 01:11:55,629
I'm awaiting her answer.

1301
01:11:56,796 --> 01:11:58,463
She's very ambitious.

1302
01:11:59,212 --> 01:12:00,629
She likes money mostly.

1303
01:12:01,504 --> 01:12:03,504
- She'll get more than me?
- Yes.

1304
01:12:04,421 --> 01:12:05,962
I don't like money enough?

1305
01:12:07,546 --> 01:12:09,546
You have other interests.

1306
01:12:10,545 --> 01:12:11,962
Besides sex?

1307
01:12:12,046 --> 01:12:14,087
Besides sex, I don't know.

1308
01:12:14,879 --> 01:12:15,837
Power.

1309
01:12:17,087 --> 01:12:18,004
Not true.

1310
01:12:18,295 --> 01:12:19,503
It's debatable.

1311
01:12:20,211 --> 01:12:22,295
Publishing, in your own way.

1312
01:12:23,462 --> 01:12:26,712
Otherwise you'd do something
that pays better.

1313
01:12:27,670 --> 01:12:31,753
You're more attached to literature
than you let on.

1314
01:12:39,836 --> 01:12:41,419
My father was a novelist.

1315
01:12:45,294 --> 01:12:47,210
I read his poems too.

1316
01:12:47,794 --> 01:12:49,085
I didn't know.

1317
01:12:49,377 --> 01:12:50,918
I like them a lot.

1318
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:55,335
I had other offers.

1319
01:12:55,419 --> 01:12:57,294
I thought I'd be useful here.

1320
01:12:57,377 --> 01:12:58,585
At what?

1321
01:12:58,668 --> 01:13:01,960
Joining the discussion
on 21st-century publishing.

1322
01:13:02,044 --> 01:13:03,127
Its reinvention.

1323
01:13:04,044 --> 01:13:05,960
Does it need to be reinvented?

1324
01:13:06,585 --> 01:13:08,626
It's going to change.
Structurally.

1325
01:13:09,126 --> 01:13:11,001
I'm less convinced than you.

1326
01:13:11,293 --> 01:13:12,543
Everything will change.

1327
01:13:12,835 --> 01:13:16,626
But we must choose the change,
not suffer it.

1328
01:13:22,251 --> 01:13:24,667
Remember what Prince Salina says

1329
01:13:24,751 --> 01:13:26,209
at the end of The Leopard?

1330
01:13:27,084 --> 01:13:28,417
Of course.

1331
01:13:28,500 --> 01:13:31,917
Everything must change
for things to stay as they are.

1332
01:13:33,250 --> 01:13:34,459
Exactly.

1333
01:13:40,167 --> 01:13:41,875
What an odd quote.

1334
01:13:42,875 --> 01:13:43,791
Why?

1335
01:13:43,875 --> 01:13:46,292
Everyone uses it now.

1336
01:13:46,750 --> 01:13:49,541
Thanks. I didn't know
you were such a boor.

1337
01:13:50,042 --> 01:13:51,791
It's not against you.

1338
01:13:52,167 --> 01:13:55,207
It resonates more now
than half a century ago

1339
01:13:55,291 --> 01:13:57,000
when Lampedusa wrote it.

1340
01:13:59,166 --> 01:14:01,249
Because it's about
the end of a world?

1341
01:14:02,499 --> 01:14:05,082
Maybe we have more reasons
to be concerned.

1342
01:14:22,165 --> 01:14:24,582
I'll have a coffee with milk.

1343
01:14:25,790 --> 01:14:27,998
And a glass of water.

1344
01:14:35,290 --> 01:14:37,373
Thanks for coming to me.

1345
01:14:37,456 --> 01:14:40,081
Sorry, with our shooting schedule...

1346
01:14:40,165 --> 01:14:40,998
at dawn.

1347
01:14:41,081 --> 01:14:41,998
No problem.

1348
01:14:42,998 --> 01:14:46,080
Double espresso and orange juice.

1349
01:14:48,706 --> 01:14:51,622
I brought you the book.
I got it last night.

1350
01:14:53,913 --> 01:14:55,581
I wrote something for you.

1351
01:14:58,663 --> 01:15:00,247
"For you, Selena..."

1352
01:15:04,621 --> 01:15:05,621
How nice.

1353
01:15:08,955 --> 01:15:11,705
Full Stop. Ballsy title.

1354
01:15:12,872 --> 01:15:13,872
Why?

1355
01:15:14,163 --> 01:15:16,996
Sounds like your last novel.

1356
01:15:17,079 --> 01:15:18,371
Thanks a lot.

1357
01:15:20,871 --> 01:15:21,996
What are you doing?

1358
01:15:22,288 --> 01:15:23,537
Knocking on wood.

1359
01:15:23,620 --> 01:15:24,912
That's not wood.

1360
01:15:25,371 --> 01:15:27,038
What is it?

1361
01:15:27,121 --> 01:15:29,620
Some sort of Fablon,
but not wood.

1362
01:15:29,996 --> 01:15:34,038
Like Thomas Bernhard,
who wrote Extinction then died.

1363
01:15:36,579 --> 01:15:39,287
You really decided to crush me good.

1364
01:15:40,078 --> 01:15:41,412
Just kidding.

1365
01:15:42,245 --> 01:15:44,412
Not in the best taste.

1366
01:15:45,370 --> 01:15:47,245
You should have said so earlier.

1367
01:15:51,203 --> 01:15:53,203
Now that I see it in print...

1368
01:15:53,286 --> 01:15:54,953
You don't answer my messages.

1369
01:15:55,953 --> 01:15:56,870
No.

1370
01:16:02,494 --> 01:16:03,869
What should I infer?

1371
01:16:05,827 --> 01:16:07,119
That's up to you.

1372
01:16:10,536 --> 01:16:12,827
You're involved with your show.

1373
01:16:12,910 --> 01:16:14,910
You have no time...

1374
01:16:16,036 --> 01:16:18,036
It's not a matter of time.

1375
01:16:18,994 --> 01:16:20,785
It's a matter of...

1376
01:16:22,368 --> 01:16:23,452
fatigue.

1377
01:16:23,702 --> 01:16:24,702
Fatigue.

1378
01:16:25,660 --> 01:16:27,785
How long have we been together?

1379
01:16:27,868 --> 01:16:31,076
"Together" is overstating it.

1380
01:16:31,326 --> 01:16:34,410
We've been having an affair that's...

1381
01:16:35,743 --> 01:16:37,118
pretty deconstructed.

1382
01:16:38,784 --> 01:16:39,909
Six years.

1383
01:16:39,993 --> 01:16:42,367
-Who'd have guessed?
- Do the math.

1384
01:16:46,743 --> 01:16:48,534
No ice in the orange juice.

1385
01:16:49,617 --> 01:16:51,950
All ice, no juice.

1386
01:16:56,034 --> 01:16:59,325
So you won't come with me to Naples?

1387
01:17:00,242 --> 01:17:03,200
As they say,
feelings are always mutual.

1388
01:17:03,284 --> 01:17:05,283
If I don't come, it's because...

1389
01:17:06,117 --> 01:17:08,034
you don't really want me to.

1390
01:17:11,450 --> 01:17:13,575
You're trying to say it's over.

1391
01:17:14,491 --> 01:17:16,907
I think I'm doing more than trying.

1392
01:17:25,907 --> 01:17:28,991
Give me a little time...

1393
01:17:30,657 --> 01:17:33,782
- Let's go about it well.
- It's a done thing.

1394
01:17:33,866 --> 01:17:36,198
We're putting it into words.

1395
01:17:37,115 --> 01:17:39,282
I have no time to talk it out.

1396
01:17:42,906 --> 01:17:46,490
I'm in a rush.
We're shooting in the suburbs.

1397
01:17:53,698 --> 01:17:55,781
That was the emergency?

1398
01:17:56,156 --> 01:17:57,614
Not exactly.

1399
01:18:01,281 --> 01:18:02,239
I wanted...

1400
01:18:02,823 --> 01:18:05,322
I wanted to ask you
something specific.

1401
01:18:08,322 --> 01:18:10,572
Not to turn it into a book.

1402
01:18:13,697 --> 01:18:15,572
Tempting as it may seem.

1403
01:18:17,905 --> 01:18:18,989
I won't.

1404
01:18:19,947 --> 01:18:21,739
I'd never forgive you.

1405
01:18:23,071 --> 01:18:24,280
I promise.

1406
01:18:24,363 --> 01:18:26,572
I won't save it,
like the last one.

1407
01:18:26,655 --> 01:18:28,863
I promise, I won't do it.

1408
01:18:28,946 --> 01:18:30,321
I'll destroy you.

1409
01:18:30,405 --> 01:18:32,405
Yes, I can imagine.

1410
01:18:32,488 --> 01:18:33,779
Your life will be hell.

1411
01:18:34,821 --> 01:18:37,487
I think I got the message.

1412
01:18:37,571 --> 01:18:38,738
Shall I repeat it?

1413
01:18:39,779 --> 01:18:41,946
It's fine. Message received.

1414
01:18:45,195 --> 01:18:47,779
Want to share an Uber?
I'm going to Bastille.

1415
01:18:47,863 --> 01:18:49,738
I'll finish my coffee.

1416
01:18:50,446 --> 01:18:53,237
I have a radio interview later.

1417
01:18:55,945 --> 01:18:57,862
We have a lot of public shows.

1418
01:18:57,945 --> 01:19:01,445
Morning news after elections...

1419
01:19:01,528 --> 01:19:04,737
Talk shows...
Le Masque et la Plume.

1420
01:19:04,820 --> 01:19:06,820
Concerts on Mouv' and FIP.

1421
01:19:06,903 --> 01:19:08,987
And France Inter too.

1422
01:19:09,070 --> 01:19:12,486
I'll be back 2 minutes before you're on.

1423
01:19:12,570 --> 01:19:14,986
- Need anything else?
- We'll be fine.

1424
01:19:18,278 --> 01:19:20,694
I'll give you a little recap.

1425
01:19:22,861 --> 01:19:25,610
It's not much yet, but it'll start soon.

1426
01:19:26,944 --> 01:19:27,944
You okay?

1427
01:19:28,278 --> 01:19:30,194
- Something wrong?
- Nope.

1428
01:19:31,944 --> 01:19:34,902
The columnist from Version Femina
liked it a lot.

1429
01:19:35,569 --> 01:19:36,777
Version Femina?

1430
01:19:38,110 --> 01:19:40,068
More readers than you think.

1431
01:19:40,152 --> 01:19:41,985
Very popular blogger.

1432
01:19:43,569 --> 01:19:46,152
I'm waiting to hear from Pierre Schultz.

1433
01:19:46,235 --> 01:19:47,943
Forget it, he hates me.

1434
01:19:48,027 --> 01:19:50,943
I gave him your book. He was happy.

1435
01:19:51,027 --> 01:19:53,860
He even said, "Great title,
Full Stop".

1436
01:19:54,443 --> 01:19:57,401
He asked how you were.
We chatted...

1437
01:19:57,484 --> 01:20:00,609
Never a good review
and I know him from high school.

1438
01:20:01,109 --> 01:20:02,067
But...

1439
01:20:02,984 --> 01:20:07,317
For Police Report...
I thought he wrote a good review.

1440
01:20:07,693 --> 01:20:08,692
Did you read it?

1441
01:20:09,192 --> 01:20:11,734
8 years ago I was still at university.

1442
01:20:11,817 --> 01:20:13,359
He's a rattlesnake.

1443
01:20:16,151 --> 01:20:17,900
You're almost on. Follow me.

1444
01:20:24,275 --> 01:20:26,066
Sit at the yellow mic.

1445
01:20:48,024 --> 01:20:51,399
Today we're here with Leonard Spiegel,

1446
01:20:51,482 --> 01:20:54,524
author of Foundation,
Hushed Farewells...

1447
01:20:54,607 --> 01:20:57,607
here with his new novel, Full Stop.

1448
01:20:57,690 --> 01:21:00,606
Is it really a novel, Leonard Spiegel?

1449
01:21:00,690 --> 01:21:03,107
I lay claim to the word "novel".

1450
01:21:03,481 --> 01:21:06,398
Novel, okay.
But isn't it auto-fiction too?

1451
01:21:08,606 --> 01:21:12,481
People use that word.
I'm not sure what it means.

1452
01:21:12,565 --> 01:21:14,314
Let's try to clarify.

1453
01:21:14,398 --> 01:21:16,648
The narrator is named Leonard.

1454
01:21:17,023 --> 01:21:18,648
He's a novelist.

1455
01:21:18,732 --> 01:21:21,856
Same neighborhood, same apartment...

1456
01:21:21,939 --> 01:21:25,480
If we're familiar with you,
we see pieces of your life.

1457
01:21:26,148 --> 01:21:28,148
It's more complex than that.

1458
01:21:28,605 --> 01:21:30,397
And yet it's transparent.

1459
01:21:30,772 --> 01:21:33,355
We were wondering...
Michael Haneke...

1460
01:21:33,897 --> 01:21:36,689
He may not be amused by the hot scene...

1461
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,147
During The White Ribbon.

1462
01:21:40,896 --> 01:21:42,105
It's very unsettling.

1463
01:21:42,564 --> 01:21:46,063
It's just for a laugh. That's the point.

1464
01:21:46,730 --> 01:21:50,980
To each his own humor.
But during a film on rising Nazism?

1465
01:21:51,063 --> 01:21:52,896
Shouldn't we feel queasy?

1466
01:21:54,354 --> 01:21:55,688
Leonard Spiegel...

1467
01:21:57,646 --> 01:21:59,646
Let's get back to auto-fiction.

1468
01:21:59,730 --> 01:22:02,062
Can you sum up The White Ribbon?

1469
01:22:04,563 --> 01:22:05,854
I'd be glad to.

1470
01:22:05,937 --> 01:22:06,979
Go ahead.

1471
01:22:09,021 --> 01:22:10,438
Just broadly.

1472
01:22:11,312 --> 01:22:14,187
It's a film about Germany...

1473
01:22:15,146 --> 01:22:16,687
before the war...

1474
01:22:18,229 --> 01:22:19,895
A costume drama.

1475
01:22:20,270 --> 01:22:23,186
There are a few tweets,
kind of favorable.

1476
01:22:24,145 --> 01:22:25,103
Show me.

1477
01:22:28,103 --> 01:22:29,437
Not all.

1478
01:22:30,061 --> 01:22:33,228
No, not all.
But not many people tune in now.

1479
01:22:33,686 --> 01:22:35,686
It'll be replayed.

1480
01:22:36,769 --> 01:22:40,394
I heard it. I thought he was very good,
very biting.

1481
01:22:41,561 --> 01:22:42,894
I agree.

1482
01:22:42,978 --> 01:22:44,561
Definitely not smug.

1483
01:22:44,644 --> 01:22:45,686
Not at all.

1484
01:22:45,769 --> 01:22:47,436
Very good interviewer.

1485
01:22:47,728 --> 01:22:50,102
Not the softball type.

1486
01:22:50,185 --> 01:22:53,352
I concur... What about me?

1487
01:22:53,436 --> 01:22:56,310
You stuttered less than usual.
Nice surprise.

1488
01:22:56,810 --> 01:22:58,561
Sorry, I have a call.

1489
01:23:01,060 --> 01:23:03,727
It's David. I have to answer.

1490
01:23:04,019 --> 01:23:05,518
I have to answer.

1491
01:23:05,601 --> 01:23:09,060
Yes, David. I'm on the phone...
Give me a sec.

1492
01:23:09,144 --> 01:23:10,102
Talk later.

1493
01:23:18,976 --> 01:23:20,268
I can't believe it.

1494
01:23:21,268 --> 01:23:22,642
No way.

1495
01:23:22,892 --> 01:23:24,476
No, I don't get it.

1496
01:23:24,851 --> 01:23:26,600
Listen... The cops?

1497
01:23:27,226 --> 01:23:30,268
Not over the phone. I'll meet you there.

1498
01:23:48,308 --> 01:23:50,683
Honestly... What got into you?

1499
01:23:51,975 --> 01:23:54,349
Truth is, it's not the first time.

1500
01:23:55,266 --> 01:23:57,433
- You could have told me.
- Why would I?

1501
01:23:57,516 --> 01:23:59,307
- It gets worse?
- No.

1502
01:24:00,141 --> 01:24:01,725
The cops will keep quiet.

1503
01:24:01,808 --> 01:24:03,850
They never do.
Everything leaks.

1504
01:24:04,391 --> 01:24:06,433
Politicians must be transparent.

1505
01:24:07,016 --> 01:24:08,558
Naked in the street?

1506
01:24:08,641 --> 01:24:10,391
Being faultless isn't naked.

1507
01:24:10,474 --> 01:24:12,433
Faultless? Don't moralize.

1508
01:24:12,516 --> 01:24:15,473
Politicians always moralize.
You first.

1509
01:24:15,557 --> 01:24:17,390
- Same.
- Jack on the rocks?

1510
01:24:17,682 --> 01:24:19,390
Exactly what I need.

1511
01:24:20,099 --> 01:24:22,807
Public morality, yes.
Private life is different.

1512
01:24:22,890 --> 01:24:23,974
Same thing!

1513
01:24:24,056 --> 01:24:26,348
Not if we're consenting adults.

1514
01:24:26,432 --> 01:24:28,640
Concealing makes you suspicious.

1515
01:24:28,724 --> 01:24:31,140
- Your opinion?
- Mine doesn't matter.

1516
01:24:31,223 --> 01:24:32,806
Only public opinion matters.

1517
01:24:32,889 --> 01:24:36,015
Transparency advocates rage
if you touch their data.

1518
01:24:36,556 --> 01:24:38,306
They're not in politics.

1519
01:24:39,265 --> 01:24:41,431
As I'm devoted to public good...

1520
01:24:41,514 --> 01:24:44,431
No one thinks
you're in it for the public good.

1521
01:24:44,514 --> 01:24:48,264
They think it's to satisfy your ego,
get rich or both.

1522
01:24:48,347 --> 01:24:50,556
- Not true!
- But it's seen that way.

1523
01:24:51,180 --> 01:24:53,305
As a suspect,
be beyond reproach.

1524
01:24:53,389 --> 01:24:57,305
Beyond reproach means
monogamous, straight family guy.

1525
01:24:57,389 --> 01:24:59,264
No one's asking that much.

1526
01:24:59,347 --> 01:25:02,389
Many politicians are "out"
and no one cares.

1527
01:25:02,471 --> 01:25:03,305
Says you.

1528
01:25:03,389 --> 01:25:07,097
But you shouldn't get busted
leaving a hooker's camping-car.

1529
01:25:07,180 --> 01:25:09,555
Off-limits!
Makes you look deplorable.

1530
01:25:09,638 --> 01:25:11,805
At least don't get caught.

1531
01:25:13,263 --> 01:25:14,513
Easier said than done.

1532
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,054
It's a crime, subject to fine.

1533
01:25:18,304 --> 01:25:19,638
350 euros.

1534
01:25:32,054 --> 01:25:33,013
You okay?

1535
01:25:34,013 --> 01:25:35,054
Not at all.

1536
01:25:35,679 --> 01:25:38,262
I saw David... He unnerved me.

1537
01:25:39,470 --> 01:25:40,429
Why?

1538
01:25:42,053 --> 01:25:44,137
I can't say. He unnerved me.

1539
01:25:44,387 --> 01:25:46,345
You've said too much
or not enough.

1540
01:25:46,429 --> 01:25:48,886
He unnerved me.
And I won't say why.

1541
01:25:50,137 --> 01:25:52,137
Don't insist, please...

1542
01:25:59,261 --> 01:26:00,761
Want a drink?

1543
01:26:00,845 --> 01:26:02,553
I already drank too much.

1544
01:26:19,011 --> 01:26:20,760
I have something to tell you.

1545
01:26:22,343 --> 01:26:23,677
You don't have to.

1546
01:26:26,677 --> 01:26:28,593
- Don't want to know?
- I do.

1547
01:26:29,510 --> 01:26:32,010
Some things are better left unspoken.

1548
01:26:32,385 --> 01:26:34,176
Not in a couple.

1549
01:26:34,260 --> 01:26:35,926
Especially in a couple.

1550
01:26:39,426 --> 01:26:42,093
Do you believe in concealing and...

1551
01:26:43,801 --> 01:26:44,718
hypocrisy?

1552
01:26:49,551 --> 01:26:50,884
Yes, I do.

1553
01:26:51,384 --> 01:26:54,634
That's not it...
I believe in the implicit.

1554
01:26:56,925 --> 01:27:00,050
I know, you know.
No need to get bogged down.

1555
01:27:00,134 --> 01:27:01,758
Strange philosophy.

1556
01:27:02,384 --> 01:27:04,384
You don't think so?

1557
01:27:04,466 --> 01:27:07,383
Better to wallow in pathos
when you can avoid it?

1558
01:27:08,466 --> 01:27:09,299
Listen...

1559
01:27:14,925 --> 01:27:18,591
I had an affair...
outside of our relationship.

1560
01:27:22,799 --> 01:27:23,716
And?

1561
01:27:25,425 --> 01:27:27,133
Nothing. I had an affair.

1562
01:27:27,882 --> 01:27:28,966
I know.

1563
01:27:29,465 --> 01:27:30,882
You wrote a book about it.

1564
01:27:31,174 --> 01:27:33,674
My book is auto-fiction... a novel.

1565
01:27:35,132 --> 01:27:37,132
Apparently not that much.

1566
01:27:38,424 --> 01:27:40,424
No, not that much...

1567
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:44,590
You think I didn't suspect?

1568
01:27:45,298 --> 01:27:47,007
You never mentioned it, so...

1569
01:27:57,214 --> 01:27:59,631
I don't fucking believe it.

1570
01:27:59,715 --> 01:28:00,631
What?

1571
01:28:00,715 --> 01:28:02,214
Just forget about it.

1572
01:28:11,256 --> 01:28:13,131
Was it Stephanie Volkowski?

1573
01:28:13,214 --> 01:28:16,172
Not at all Stephanie Volkowski.

1574
01:28:16,588 --> 01:28:17,755
Who then?

1575
01:28:18,047 --> 01:28:20,505
See the limits of the implicit?

1576
01:28:20,922 --> 01:28:22,588
Is it someone I know?

1577
01:28:29,714 --> 01:28:31,130
It's Selena.

1578
01:28:37,046 --> 01:28:39,422
There aren't many Selenas.

1579
01:28:40,921 --> 01:28:42,088
I'd never have thought.

1580
01:28:42,337 --> 01:28:43,629
But it's over.

1581
01:28:55,713 --> 01:28:57,004
I should believe you?

1582
01:28:58,212 --> 01:29:01,712
I told you this
so we could rebuild trust.

1583
01:29:02,962 --> 01:29:04,545
By sharing your affairs.

1584
01:29:05,212 --> 01:29:06,670
By stopping the lies.

1585
01:29:08,253 --> 01:29:10,920
You lie only to me.
The truth is in your books.

1586
01:29:11,169 --> 01:29:14,503
Yeah, but through a smokescreen.

1587
01:29:15,169 --> 01:29:17,545
- A thin one.
- I covered my tracks.

1588
01:29:19,628 --> 01:29:21,628
You guessed Stephanie Volkowski.

1589
01:29:23,503 --> 01:29:24,919
Do you realize...

1590
01:29:26,211 --> 01:29:29,169
That's nonsense!
What's the difference?

1591
01:29:29,253 --> 01:29:32,502
You can only write that stuff
from experience.

1592
01:29:33,544 --> 01:29:34,544
I know.

1593
01:29:36,794 --> 01:29:39,836
Stephanie or Selena
doesn't change a thing.

1594
01:29:42,043 --> 01:29:43,711
At least it's said now.

1595
01:30:33,625 --> 01:30:35,958
It's on the right, I know it.

1596
01:31:20,581 --> 01:31:21,581
It's us!

1597
01:31:23,623 --> 01:31:25,540
I didn't hear you pull in.

1598
01:31:27,706 --> 01:31:28,622
How are you?

1599
01:31:28,706 --> 01:31:29,539
Welcome.

1600
01:31:33,164 --> 01:31:34,039
Hi, Selena.

1601
01:31:34,330 --> 01:31:35,956
Hello, Valeria.

1602
01:31:36,039 --> 01:31:37,872
- "Valerie".
- I always forget!

1603
01:31:37,956 --> 01:31:40,122
Funny how you can't memorize...

1604
01:31:42,414 --> 01:31:43,747
I'm glad to see you.

1605
01:31:43,830 --> 01:31:45,830
Me too. It's been ages.

1606
01:31:46,330 --> 01:31:48,955
We mustn't let time go by like this.

1607
01:31:49,038 --> 01:31:50,579
Years whiz by, and...

1608
01:31:51,205 --> 01:31:53,746
It wasn't too hard to find the way?

1609
01:31:53,830 --> 01:31:57,997
Leonard has already been here.
He knew the way.

1610
01:31:59,287 --> 01:32:01,329
Once... a long time ago.

1611
01:32:01,621 --> 01:32:02,788
I don't remember.

1612
01:32:03,037 --> 01:32:04,121
You weren't here.

1613
01:32:05,079 --> 01:32:06,287
Where was I?

1614
01:32:06,870 --> 01:32:09,204
Japan maybe? I don't know...

1615
01:32:09,287 --> 01:32:10,663
Not that long ago.

1616
01:32:13,204 --> 01:32:14,204
No, actually.

1617
01:32:14,578 --> 01:32:15,620
So...

1618
01:32:16,453 --> 01:32:17,329
Come!

1619
01:32:19,246 --> 01:32:21,328
It's nice to meet up here.

1620
01:32:22,412 --> 01:32:23,745
Can I put this down?

1621
01:32:23,829 --> 01:32:25,829
Make yourself at home.

1622
01:32:28,453 --> 01:32:29,620
Well-done?

1623
01:32:29,704 --> 01:32:30,869
Yes, please.

1624
01:32:31,578 --> 01:32:33,869
Or it'll get overcooked...

1625
01:32:33,953 --> 01:32:35,911
- Lemon?
- Please...

1626
01:32:48,744 --> 01:32:51,494
I watch you in Collusion...

1627
01:32:51,577 --> 01:32:52,619
I'm sick of it.

1628
01:32:52,703 --> 01:32:55,786
I'm stopping.
I turned down season 4.

1629
01:32:56,285 --> 01:32:58,119
What will they do?

1630
01:32:58,202 --> 01:32:59,202
Kill her off.

1631
01:32:59,702 --> 01:33:01,618
They'll kill you?

1632
01:33:01,702 --> 01:33:02,743
How?

1633
01:33:03,035 --> 01:33:05,077
Her husband can't stand her...

1634
01:33:05,451 --> 01:33:07,035
He strangles her,

1635
01:33:07,119 --> 01:33:09,035
then dissolves her in acid.

1636
01:33:10,702 --> 01:33:12,535
I have no idea!

1637
01:33:12,618 --> 01:33:13,827
I'm just kidding.

1638
01:33:15,326 --> 01:33:17,493
Such a good show. Captivating.

1639
01:33:18,867 --> 01:33:20,702
Aren't there enough TV cops?

1640
01:33:21,451 --> 01:33:24,784
She's not a cop.
She's a crisis management expert.

1641
01:33:26,159 --> 01:33:28,742
She's a cop, just a cop.

1642
01:33:28,826 --> 01:33:30,617
Yeah, but I'm hooked.

1643
01:33:31,534 --> 01:33:33,951
Addiction is now our default setting.

1644
01:33:34,701 --> 01:33:36,993
That's not what I meant.

1645
01:33:38,034 --> 01:33:40,992
I wouldn't say I'm an addict.

1646
01:33:41,075 --> 01:33:43,825
You're right.
It's what series are about.

1647
01:33:43,908 --> 01:33:45,701
Binge watching.

1648
01:33:45,783 --> 01:33:47,409
It relaxes me.

1649
01:33:47,908 --> 01:33:51,242
Sorry, I didn't choose this job
to relax people.

1650
01:33:52,908 --> 01:33:54,783
You're wrong.
They're grateful for it!

1651
01:33:55,283 --> 01:33:56,741
I'm not so sure.

1652
01:33:57,992 --> 01:34:01,449
There's a real demand
for escapist literature.

1653
01:34:02,199 --> 01:34:04,533
Also for sleep music...

1654
01:34:04,616 --> 01:34:08,282
Sure. Look how well
adult coloring books do.

1655
01:34:10,032 --> 01:34:10,949
Don't laugh.

1656
01:34:11,907 --> 01:34:13,533
We publish them and they sell.

1657
01:34:14,282 --> 01:34:17,615
I didn't get that.
Coloring books for adults?

1658
01:34:18,032 --> 01:34:21,281
After work, you relax, release stress...

1659
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,824
You release stress by coloring.

1660
01:34:31,073 --> 01:34:34,407
Coloring vegetable patterns, mandalas...

1661
01:34:34,490 --> 01:34:35,698
Clears the head.

1662
01:34:36,323 --> 01:34:38,031
Is it very common?

1663
01:34:38,448 --> 01:34:41,698
It's a social phenomenon.
You have to be aware.

1664
01:34:42,115 --> 01:34:44,115
It's depressing.

1665
01:34:44,614 --> 01:34:46,906
It makes me feel powerless.

1666
01:34:47,406 --> 01:34:50,990
People also read to clear their heads.
It's a fact.

1667
01:34:51,072 --> 01:34:53,364
My books do the opposite.

1668
01:34:53,447 --> 01:34:55,863
They just make the reader feel worse.

1669
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:58,947
Some people write feel-good books.

1670
01:34:59,030 --> 01:35:01,280
I write... let's be honest...

1671
01:35:01,780 --> 01:35:03,280
I write feel-bad books.

1672
01:35:03,697 --> 01:35:05,530
An audience for that too.

1673
01:35:06,989 --> 01:35:09,363
Cakes with the coffee?

1674
01:35:09,446 --> 01:35:10,530
Need a hand?

1675
01:35:10,613 --> 01:35:12,989
No, I'm fine, thanks.

1676
01:35:14,905 --> 01:35:17,780
So Selena, any new projects?

1677
01:35:19,363 --> 01:35:21,613
Phèdre... at La Colline Theater.

1678
01:35:22,571 --> 01:35:25,238
With a Belgian director.

1679
01:35:25,654 --> 01:35:27,071
Wow, Phèdre!

1680
01:35:27,696 --> 01:35:29,238
You want to play Phèdre?

1681
01:35:29,737 --> 01:35:31,946
I know, it's for aging actresses.

1682
01:35:33,737 --> 01:35:36,612
When you get offered Phèdre, it means...

1683
01:35:37,195 --> 01:35:38,278
beginning of the end.

1684
01:35:38,612 --> 01:35:41,153
I saw Chereau's, with Dominique Blanc.

1685
01:35:41,445 --> 01:35:44,362
My instinct was to run for my life.

1686
01:35:44,696 --> 01:35:47,112
Then I figured it's a great part.

1687
01:35:47,195 --> 01:35:48,362
Stupid to refuse.

1688
01:35:49,487 --> 01:35:51,778
Especially for the wrong reasons.

1689
01:35:53,695 --> 01:35:56,278
I checked on Wikipedia...

1690
01:35:56,361 --> 01:35:59,861
Sarah Bernhardt played her at 30...
So why not?

1691
01:36:00,569 --> 01:36:02,820
See the e-book of your novel?

1692
01:36:03,069 --> 01:36:04,319
Is there one?

1693
01:36:04,403 --> 01:36:05,736
Of course.

1694
01:36:06,111 --> 01:36:07,736
It's not doing badly.

1695
01:36:07,820 --> 01:36:09,152
Not badly...

1696
01:36:09,860 --> 01:36:13,152
Not bad for contemporary fiction.

1697
01:36:13,236 --> 01:36:14,111
Coffee?

1698
01:36:15,777 --> 01:36:17,694
Can I have one sugar?

1699
01:36:20,069 --> 01:36:22,152
What do you mean by that?

1700
01:36:22,485 --> 01:36:26,027
You know, what works best on e-book

1701
01:36:26,527 --> 01:36:31,276
are thrillers or Harlequin romances,
like Nora Roberts.

1702
01:36:31,527 --> 01:36:33,776
Like who? Nora Roberts?

1703
01:36:34,193 --> 01:36:35,859
Who's Nora Roberts?

1704
01:36:35,943 --> 01:36:39,859
She's sold over 100 million books,
translated into 26 languages.

1705
01:36:40,901 --> 01:36:43,734
To be honest,
it's industrial literature.

1706
01:36:43,818 --> 01:36:45,985
So why does she sell e-books?

1707
01:36:46,068 --> 01:36:48,317
It's mostly for the price.

1708
01:36:48,401 --> 01:36:52,776
While Full Stop costs 13,99 euros...

1709
01:36:52,859 --> 01:36:56,900
a Nora Roberts costs 3,99 euros.

1710
01:36:56,984 --> 01:36:58,442
It's pretty basic.

1711
01:36:59,109 --> 01:37:03,401
Are you considering
an audiobook for Full Stop?

1712
01:37:03,484 --> 01:37:04,359
Maybe.

1713
01:37:04,442 --> 01:37:06,900
Sales are good. It's on the table.

1714
01:37:06,984 --> 01:37:10,274
- There must be a cost involved.
- You bet.

1715
01:37:10,358 --> 01:37:11,942
We asked Juliette Binoche.

1716
01:37:13,733 --> 01:37:15,817
You think she'll say yes?

1717
01:37:15,900 --> 01:37:18,108
I don't know. She hasn't replied.

1718
01:37:18,191 --> 01:37:19,525
Selena gave it to her.

1719
01:37:20,650 --> 01:37:24,274
Maybe I can write her a note, if you...

1720
01:37:26,483 --> 01:37:27,732
have her email?

1721
01:37:28,816 --> 01:37:29,899
That's not done.

1722
01:37:29,983 --> 01:37:32,524
But I can give you her agent's number.

1723
01:37:32,607 --> 01:37:34,399
To motivate her...

1724
01:37:44,649 --> 01:37:48,399
You've been in the papers lately.

1725
01:37:48,982 --> 01:37:51,815
- What papers?
- Website of Investir.

1726
01:37:52,357 --> 01:37:55,148
- Got a Google alert for me?
- Why?

1727
01:37:55,232 --> 01:37:57,107
You never read Investir.

1728
01:37:58,940 --> 01:38:03,648
Rumor has it
Marc-Antoine Rouvel is selling.

1729
01:38:04,064 --> 01:38:05,898
That's old news.

1730
01:38:05,981 --> 01:38:08,731
And you're on your way out.

1731
01:38:08,814 --> 01:38:10,772
Fake news.
Want me to explain?

1732
01:38:10,855 --> 01:38:13,314
I'm sort of interested...

1733
01:38:14,106 --> 01:38:17,480
He was going to sell
to the Dehoux group.

1734
01:38:18,272 --> 01:38:20,397
He's a very shady character.

1735
01:38:20,480 --> 01:38:21,981
I agree.

1736
01:38:22,064 --> 01:38:23,563
But it was a lure.

1737
01:38:23,647 --> 01:38:27,772
Dehoux was trying
to close on a big acquisition,

1738
01:38:27,855 --> 01:38:32,313
an Italian news site
he wanted to launch in France.

1739
01:38:32,647 --> 01:38:36,646
Vertheuil Editions was a decoy.

1740
01:38:37,063 --> 01:38:38,063
You follow?

1741
01:38:38,562 --> 01:38:40,688
It seems pretty hazy.

1742
01:38:40,771 --> 01:38:43,479
I get the general idea, but...

1743
01:38:43,562 --> 01:38:45,646
He strung Marc-Antoine along.

1744
01:38:45,729 --> 01:38:49,604
He wasn't buying.
He wanted the market to think he was.

1745
01:38:49,688 --> 01:38:52,521
While he was closing on the other deal.

1746
01:38:53,937 --> 01:38:55,145
So he's keeping you.

1747
01:38:56,229 --> 01:38:58,104
Yes, he's keeping me.

1748
01:38:59,270 --> 01:39:00,895
He's no longer selling.

1749
01:39:03,229 --> 01:39:04,437
Working on something?

1750
01:39:06,937 --> 01:39:09,104
I don't want to talk about it.

1751
01:39:10,104 --> 01:39:11,603
Is it coming along?

1752
01:39:11,687 --> 01:39:13,812
It's coming along very well.

1753
01:39:16,937 --> 01:39:18,436
You won't say more?

1754
01:39:25,936 --> 01:39:28,061
It's us! We're back!

1755
01:39:28,727 --> 01:39:29,644
Champ!

1756
01:39:30,852 --> 01:39:31,852
Daddy!

1757
01:39:34,769 --> 01:39:36,019
How are you?

1758
01:39:36,103 --> 01:39:37,560
Have fun?

1759
01:39:38,394 --> 01:39:39,602
Martin!

1760
01:39:39,894 --> 01:39:41,060
Did you swim?

1761
01:39:46,227 --> 01:39:47,352
How many?

1762
01:39:50,893 --> 01:39:52,310
No nap!

1763
01:39:52,559 --> 01:39:54,018
No nap?

1764
01:39:54,102 --> 01:39:55,810
Some fish first!

1765
01:40:41,975 --> 01:40:44,141
- What?
- I'm thanking you.

1766
01:40:44,225 --> 01:40:47,849
- For what?
- You were very tactful...

1767
01:40:48,432 --> 01:40:49,808
What about?

1768
01:40:50,933 --> 01:40:56,599
I'd rather Selena not know I'm writing.
I was afraid you'd mention it.

1769
01:40:57,099 --> 01:40:59,516
She doesn't know she's in it?

1770
01:41:00,932 --> 01:41:02,932
It's auto-fiction...

1771
01:41:03,015 --> 01:41:06,349
- It's Selena and not Selena.
- You'll get in trouble.

1772
01:41:06,431 --> 01:41:09,182
I can't write any other way.

1773
01:41:09,265 --> 01:41:11,515
I just can't.

1774
01:41:16,181 --> 01:41:18,264
There's something I wanted to say.

1775
01:41:19,889 --> 01:41:21,765
Something I've kept hidden.

1776
01:41:22,139 --> 01:41:23,847
You're having an affair?

1777
01:41:23,931 --> 01:41:25,473
There's someone else?

1778
01:41:26,056 --> 01:41:27,681
Then I don't know.

1779
01:41:31,597 --> 01:41:32,973
I'm pregnant.

1780
01:41:38,681 --> 01:41:41,847
No, because in fact... I thought...

1781
01:41:41,931 --> 01:41:44,681
The gynecologist said
we weren't compatible.

1782
01:41:44,764 --> 01:41:46,263
I guess we are.

1783
01:41:46,597 --> 01:41:47,721
You checked that...

1784
01:41:48,555 --> 01:41:52,180
Everything's fine.
I did ultrasounds, blood work.

1785
01:41:52,263 --> 01:41:53,471
He's fine. Normal.

1786
01:41:53,554 --> 01:41:54,471
He?

1787
01:41:55,429 --> 01:41:56,680
You said "he".

1788
01:41:57,263 --> 01:42:00,346
Is it a boy? It's a boy! It is!

1789
01:42:00,429 --> 01:42:03,888
I asked not to know.
I don't want to know.

1790
01:42:05,930 --> 01:42:08,221
- How many months?
- Three.

1791
01:42:09,012 --> 01:42:12,638
I wanted to be sure
before telling you.

1792
01:42:14,012 --> 01:42:16,137
It's true that...

1793
01:42:16,221 --> 01:42:19,595
we haven't had a very active sex life.

1794
01:42:19,679 --> 01:42:22,762
- Not recently.
- No, not recently.

1795
01:42:23,929 --> 01:42:24,971
Nothing wild.

1796
01:42:25,845 --> 01:42:27,428
But once is enough.

1797
01:42:30,428 --> 01:42:34,553
When we tried IVF, it didn't work.

1798
01:42:35,261 --> 01:42:36,637
It's a lottery.

1799
01:42:36,719 --> 01:42:40,303
Yeah but it's a lottery we lost, so...

1800
01:42:43,011 --> 01:42:43,970
True.

1801
01:42:44,053 --> 01:42:45,178
So it's a miracle.

1802
01:42:45,261 --> 01:42:48,011
No, because miracles don't happen.

1803
01:42:48,427 --> 01:42:49,594
This is real.

1804
01:42:54,010 --> 01:42:55,469
Yes, it's real.

1805
01:42:58,678 --> 01:43:00,010
Are you happy?

1806
01:43:02,885 --> 01:43:04,551
I guess I have...

1807
01:43:05,177 --> 01:43:07,468
to give you an honest answer.

1808
01:43:13,385 --> 01:43:14,301
Yes.

1809
01:43:25,218 --> 01:43:27,176
Excuse me.

1810
01:43:27,259 --> 01:43:30,301
Is the baby here or here?

1811
01:43:30,842 --> 01:43:32,634
More like...

1812
01:43:33,968 --> 01:43:35,801
Here, I think... It's tiny.

1813
01:43:37,717 --> 01:43:38,968
How tiny?

1814
01:43:40,092 --> 01:43:41,550
The size of a lentil.

1815
01:44:17,007 --> 01:44:21,299
NON FICTION