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  Channel ID:      -15815200
  Channel Name:    Private Chat (Cheiftan)
  Listener:        Sara Letha
  Session started: 2010.11.01 19:03:46
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[ 2010.11.01 19:03:58 ] Sara Letha > sup
[ 2010.11.01 19:04:00 ] Cheiftan > Heya Mate
[ 2010.11.01 19:04:09 ] Cheiftan > Just wanted to know what happend
[ 2010.11.01 19:04:21 ] Sara Letha > Cynabal losses were our fault admittedly
[ 2010.11.01 19:04:23 ] Sara Letha > but its pissing us off
[ 2010.11.01 19:04:31 ] Sara Letha > how ired do nothing but sit on their asses unless john is in fleet
[ 2010.11.01 19:04:36 ] Cheiftan > Tell me everything
[ 2010.11.01 19:04:40 ] Sara Letha > Well
[ 2010.11.01 19:04:42 ] Sara Letha > we lost them because
[ 2010.11.01 19:04:49 ] Sara Letha > Dion was on a alt, said he has a myrm tackled
[ 2010.11.01 19:04:51 ] Sara Letha > so i undocked u4
[ 2010.11.01 19:04:55 ] Sara Letha > warped to him
[ 2010.11.01 19:04:58 ] Sara Letha > started killing myrm
[ 2010.11.01 19:05:06 ] Sara Letha > then fleet landed on us, killed dion in his bomber
[ 2010.11.01 19:05:10 ] Sara Letha > i was burning away
[ 2010.11.01 19:05:27 ] Sara Letha > but i was jammed by like 25 ecm drones or something, with stuff pounding on me
[ 2010.11.01 19:05:34 ] Sara Letha > alacante came in to try and save me, he ended up dieing too
[ 2010.11.01 19:05:47 ] Sara Letha > But IRED never join fleets in the EU TZ, they all seem afk or too busy carebearing in hisec
[ 2010.11.01 19:06:14 ] Cheiftan > Right youve told them im gona have a word with a few people
[ 2010.11.01 19:06:24 ] Cheiftan > and kick theirs asses back into shape
[ 2010.11.01 19:06:48 ] Sara Letha > Were leaving cheif, unless our cynabals get replaced by those people who sit there carebearing all day every day and are never in fleet trying to fight for the space they want to live in
[ 2010.11.01 19:06:49 ] Cheiftan > because i agree with you, out here we either go balls the the wall or lose evrything
[ 2010.11.01 19:07:04 ] Sara Letha > Honestly, i have no problem losing the isk
[ 2010.11.01 19:07:09 ] Sara Letha > its when we are the ONLY PEOPLE losing the isk
[ 2010.11.01 19:07:17 ] Sara Letha > if the rest of ired was out here fighting with us, and we all died, fair enough
[ 2010.11.01 19:07:32 ] Sara Letha > but when we are fighting for the space while they carebear...why bother, if they are gona carebear while i fight i expect them to replace my ships
[ 2010.11.01 19:07:44 ] Cheiftan > nope i agree mate its the principle behind it that hurst not the isk itself
[ 2010.11.01 19:08:07 ] Sara Letha > last time i ranted in alliance about this, john said my attitude was unnaceptable
[ 2010.11.01 19:09:01 ] Cheiftan > i spoke to him about that, it was because he would have prefferd a direct converstaion with you in private
[ 2010.11.01 19:09:28 ] Sara Letha > Yeah i suppose
[ 2010.11.01 19:10:03 ] Cheiftan > i thinks thats where his beef lied on that matter and i can see his point its not nice to argue in allince
[ 2010.11.01 19:10:09 ] Cheiftan > BUT
[ 2010.11.01 19:10:23 ] Cheiftan > i also understand where your coming from
[ 2010.11.01 19:10:47 ] Cheiftan > people need to pull thumbs out of arses and fight
[ 2010.11.01 19:11:04 ] Sara Letha > I mean, i know you do, qui does, and john and kate and mythies etc they all do
[ 2010.11.01 19:11:11 ] Sara Letha > but...its the same people
[ 2010.11.01 19:11:18 ] Cheiftan > Exatly
[ 2010.11.01 19:11:20 ] Sara Letha > i constantly see like what, 20-50 people online depending on time zone
[ 2010.11.01 19:11:25 ] Sara Letha > yet its the same 5-10 in fleet?
[ 2010.11.01 19:11:38 ] Cheiftan > the others slink away in teh shadows after giving it all the mouth
[ 2010.11.01 19:11:42 ] Sara Letha > Yep
[ 2010.11.01 19:11:46 ] Cheiftan > how many online right now in I-RED
[ 2010.11.01 19:11:49 ] Sara Letha > 17
[ 2010.11.01 19:11:52 ] Cheiftan > 17
[ 2010.11.01 19:12:03 ] Cheiftan > ok did you make the fleet pblic to them and advertise it
[ 2010.11.01 19:12:14 ] Sara Letha > no time for that specific engagement
[ 2010.11.01 19:12:29 ] Sara Letha > But i had just logged on to see dion talking about it in wasps nest
[ 2010.11.01 19:12:29 ] Cheiftan > roger but if 20 is avrage online
[ 2010.11.01 19:12:37 ] Cheiftan > how many would u say you get
[ 2010.11.01 19:13:08 ] Sara Letha > If 20 is online, i would expect about 10 in fleet if i posted an advert up, IF this alliance was seriously wanting to live here
[ 2010.11.01 19:13:09 ] Sara Letha > in reality
[ 2010.11.01 19:13:16 ] Sara Letha > if i posted a invite before the cynabal loss
[ 2010.11.01 19:13:20 ] Sara Letha > i probably would have got 1 or 2
[ 2010.11.01 19:13:32 ] Cheiftan > right thats complete bull shit
[ 2010.11.01 19:13:54 ] Cheiftan > leave this to me mate, my word carrys alot of weight ile be haveing words
[ 2010.11.01 19:14:08 ] Cheiftan > lots of them
[ 2010.11.01 19:14:42 ] Sara Letha > Its different for john though
[ 2010.11.01 19:14:54 ] Sara Letha > because everyone see's him as the "allmighty leader" so when he posts a fleet everyone joins
[ 2010.11.01 19:14:58 ] Sara Letha > and is magically not-afk
[ 2010.11.01 19:16:11 ] Cheiftan > hmmm its strange, people moan about wanting more FCs
[ 2010.11.01 19:16:19 ] Cheiftan > when somone picks up the batton
[ 2010.11.01 19:16:32 ] Cheiftan > they dont participate
[ 2010.11.01 19:17:11 ] Sara Letha > yep
[ 2010.11.01 19:17:28 ] Sara Letha > maybe people just dont join my fleets coz im a evil pirate
[ 2010.11.01 19:17:47 ] Sara Letha > Its sad
[ 2010.11.01 19:17:48 ] Cheiftan > bah beggers cant be choosers
[ 2010.11.01 19:17:56 ] Sara Letha > You know since imp.hounds came down here
[ 2010.11.01 19:19:04 ] Sara Letha > weve had offers to join ta8, theyve offered to even pay us for intel lmao, weve also been offered a place in shadows of the federation, and weve turned them all down coz we thought people would pvp. Not sayin if we knew how it'd turn out we would have
[ 2010.11.01 19:19:06 ] Sara Letha > changed sides, coz we wouldnt
[ 2010.11.01 19:19:10 ] Sara Letha > but....
[ 2010.11.01 19:20:45 ] Sara Letha > ya kno
[ 2010.11.01 19:20:49 ] Sara Letha > we put trust in ired
[ 2010.11.01 19:20:54 ] Sara Letha > and stayed loyal
[ 2010.11.01 19:21:00 ] Sara Letha > even after a year of pretty much hatred to us
[ 2010.11.01 19:21:17 ] Sara Letha > now im being criticised for flying faction in alliance
[ 2010.11.01 19:21:18 ] Cheiftan > to be honest
[ 2010.11.01 19:21:45 ] Cheiftan > after what happedn it left a very bitter tast in alot of peoples mouths
[ 2010.11.01 19:22:05 ] Cheiftan > ok copy and past this comment to anyone whos critasizing
[ 2010.11.01 19:22:17 ] Cheiftan > if you dont like it STFU and join fleet
[ 2010.11.01 19:24:51 ] Sara Letha > yep
[ 2010.11.01 19:25:14 ] Cheiftan > as for ta8 dont join them
[ 2010.11.01 19:25:35 ] Cheiftan > ile admit after what happend it left a very bitter tast even in my mouth
[ 2010.11.01 19:25:53 ] Cheiftan > and it wasnt teh ship loss it was the fact u was blue at the time
[ 2010.11.01 19:25:58 ] Sara Letha > Sadly the phantasm thing was bad diplomatic
[ 2010.11.01 19:26:12 ] Cheiftan > but past is past and i think where all finaly seeing eye to eye again
[ 2010.11.01 19:26:17 ] Cheiftan > and im happy we ae
[ 2010.11.01 19:26:19 ] Sara Letha > From our pov, as far as i know, nothing had been said about us being set blue, but as u say, its in the past
[ 2010.11.01 19:26:29 ] Cheiftan > cause its been great flying with you guys again
[ 2010.11.01 19:26:35 ] Sara Letha > Oh ofcourse
[ 2010.11.01 19:26:43 ] Sara Letha > Now i can actually fly you know, good ships with u guys lol
[ 2010.11.01 19:26:51 ] Sara Letha > Instead of comparing my t1 fitted stabber to your vaga
[ 2010.11.01 19:26:51 ] Cheiftan > and i thinks its been a healing process
[ 2010.11.01 19:27:06 ] Cheiftan > Yea dude alot has changed eh
[ 2010.11.01 19:27:07 ] Sara Letha > being like "hmm....shit i do shit dps, have no drones, no tank, and no speed! /emo"
[ 2010.11.01 19:27:21 ] Cheiftan > ide actualy be scared to fight you now lol
[ 2010.11.01 19:27:42 ] Cheiftan > you left very naive pilots and came back as vets
[ 2010.11.01 19:28:00 ] Cheiftan > and im realy impressed and actualy almost jealos =)
[ 2010.11.01 19:28:05 ] Sara Letha > Dont be jealous
[ 2010.11.01 19:28:11 ] Sara Letha > we burnt alot of bridges, some i wish i never burnt
[ 2010.11.01 19:28:21 ] Cheiftan > and this is what im getting at
[ 2010.11.01 19:28:37 ] Cheiftan > weve started a healing process now
[ 2010.11.01 19:28:42 ] Cheiftan > and its great
[ 2010.11.01 19:29:04 ] Sara Letha > yeah
[ 2010.11.01 19:29:10 ] Sara Letha > i think the problem is with IRED
[ 2010.11.01 19:29:24 ] Cheiftan > take ure contracts down and lets go rope Ta8 and ile lean on Ireds Euros and make the shift into action
[ 2010.11.01 19:29:28 ] Sara Letha > is they dont have the....dedication to be able to fleet up day after day, which is required for a independant entity in nulsec
[ 2010.11.01 19:29:37 ] Sara Letha > if u want to carve ya own way anyway
[ 2010.11.01 19:29:37 ] Cheiftan > ile get this sorted by monday or not at all
[ 2010.11.01 19:30:18 ] Cheiftan > basicly if you wait ure gona see me throw my toys out my parm at everyone
[ 2010.11.01 19:30:29 ] Cheiftan > and ile make john send a mail or somthing
[ 2010.11.01 19:30:32 ] Cheiftan > a stern one
[ 2010.11.01 19:30:40 ] Sara Letha > Yeah
[ 2010.11.01 19:30:45 ] Sara Letha > I mean, hes called these allies down
[ 2010.11.01 19:30:52 ] Cheiftan > i dont want you to go ile say it starit up
[ 2010.11.01 19:30:59 ] Sara Letha > he called us down, he called u down, he called SOTF down
[ 2010.11.01 19:31:00 ] Cheiftan > i want our corps to run joint ops
[ 2010.11.01 19:31:07 ] Cheiftan > as our styles are very simular
[ 2010.11.01 19:31:11 ] Sara Letha > Yeah
[ 2010.11.01 19:32:39 ] Sara Letha > fusa
[ 2010.11.01 19:32:50 ] Sara Letha > not bothering with another expensive ship untill my scimi skills are trained
[ 2010.11.01 19:32:59 ] Cheiftan > Fusa?
[ 2010.11.01 19:33:08 ] Sara Letha > No idea, its a word i saw and it looks cool
[ 2010.11.01 19:33:08 ] Cheiftan > ha i finished my oneros training
[ 2010.11.01 19:33:18 ] Cheiftan > LMAO
[ 2010.11.01 19:33:32 ] Cheiftan > can u fly vags?
[ 2010.11.01 19:33:35 ] Sara Letha > yeah
[ 2010.11.01 19:33:47 ] Cheiftan > ever considerd staber fleet isues
[ 2010.11.01 19:33:56 ] Sara Letha > yeah actually
[ 2010.11.01 19:34:02 ] Sara Letha > stabber fleet
[ 2010.11.01 19:34:04 ] Cheiftan > good lil ship
[ 2010.11.01 19:34:11 ] Cheiftan > more agile than a vage less speed
[ 2010.11.01 19:34:24 ] Cheiftan > and a nice cheap option
[ 2010.11.01 19:34:25 ] Sara Letha > less falloff
[ 2010.11.01 19:34:32 ] Cheiftan > and then u have ruppies and canes
[ 2010.11.01 19:34:36 ] Sara Letha > Yeah
[ 2010.11.01 19:34:47 ] Cheiftan > thats true but u have more drones
[ 2010.11.01 19:34:55 ] Cheiftan > to be honest though
[ 2010.11.01 19:35:05 ] Cheiftan > i flew a cyn for a while
[ 2010.11.01 19:35:20 ] Cheiftan > nothing realy compares once uve flown that thing
[ 2010.11.01 19:35:27 ] Sara Letha > Yeah
[ 2010.11.01 19:35:53 ] Sara Letha > Tbh weve been comparing npc nulsec to hisec recently on TS
[ 2010.11.01 19:35:58 ] Sara Letha > its all station games
[ 2010.11.01 19:36:08 ] Sara Letha > if u bring out a fleet they cant kill, they just dock up and reship/get more numbers
[ 2010.11.01 19:36:09 ] Sara Letha > and vise versa
[ 2010.11.01 19:37:36 ] Cheiftan > yea its like militia
[ 2010.11.01 19:37:51 ] Cheiftan > we need to bait them int a pos again
[ 2010.11.01 19:37:54 ] Cheiftan > and be ready
[ 2010.11.01 19:38:04 ] Cheiftan > we can pin them their and force them to fight
[ 2010.11.01 19:39:35 ] Sara Letha > yeah
[ 2010.11.01 19:39:38 ] Sara Letha > or go on the offensive
[ 2010.11.01 19:47:31 ] Cheiftan > ile get my guys ready where cramming our carrier full of gurilla ships and canes
[ 2010.11.01 19:47:43 ] Cheiftan > where also working on our equivilent of drake army
[ 2010.11.01 19:47:54 ] Cheiftan > Hurricane - New Setup 1
[ 2010.11.01 19:48:32 ] Sara Letha > problem is
[ 2010.11.01 19:48:33 ] Cheiftan > 2.6k volly nealy 60k ehp
[ 2010.11.01 19:48:35 ] Sara Letha > drake army works coz
[ 2010.11.01 19:48:40 ] Sara Letha > its like....it always hits
[ 2010.11.01 19:48:42 ] Sara Letha > canes can miss
[ 2010.11.01 19:48:47 ] Cheiftan > yea thats true
[ 2010.11.01 19:49:02 ] Cheiftan > but well use what weve got
[ 2010.11.01 19:55:26 ] Cheiftan > my corp is very heavy mini based and we have so many tactics built up on it
[ 2010.11.01 20:08:02 ] Sara Letha > GONA
[ 2010.11.01 20:08:04 ] Sara Letha > evemail
[ 2010.11.01 20:08:06 ] Sara Letha > u the drake fit
[ 2010.11.01 20:08:11 ] Sara Letha > id set up as the standard drake army vs ta8
[ 2010.11.01 20:14:22 ] Cheiftan > SYV - Life Bringer
[ 2010.11.01 20:16:27 ] Cheiftan > Samie Sunset > i could build a jet engine but am short a few parts and you have to consider the stopping capabilities of a horse drawn cart
[ 2010.11.01 20:36:29 ] Sara Letha > cheif
[ 2010.11.01 20:36:30 ] Sara Letha > is it just me
[ 2010.11.01 20:36:38 ] Sara Letha > or is all "american" humour to do with sex/drugs etc?