* Status updates and a reunion gone sour

20:22	dreamSilentAnswer	OH hey
20:22	dreamSilentAnswer	that reminds me
20:22	equalitySaurus	BUT I'M NOT AS CUTE AS YOU, HOWLBEAST >:33
20:22	steeledProtagonist	also are you down with musclebeast meat cause i still have ghost image
20:22	steeledProtagonist	i am the taller guy
20:22	dreamSilentAnswer	I was supposed to tell everyone how we were doing in the grand quest to maybe make me not die
20:22	snaplockSunblood	Great
20:23	steeledProtagonist	tawny hair tail the works
20:23	musicalDecay	awesome
20:23		steeledProtagonist had uploaded the file "deadmusclebeast.png" to the memo
20:23	dreamSilentAnswer	So you know that Heart ability that lets you have your realself and your dreamself awake at once?
20:23	snaplockSunblood	No
20:23	steeledProtagonist	and dinosaur?
20:23	ventricularPipefitter	Mm-hm?
20:23	steeledProtagonist	:3
20:23	dreamSilentAnswer	Well Timmy totally figured out how to do that to other people!
20:23	musicalDecay	yes?
20:24	ventricularPipefitter	Awesome.
20:24	musicalDecay	sweet
20:24	dreamSilentAnswer	And since we both wanted it, he's pretty sure he can make it permanent
20:24	dreamSilentAnswer	BUt
20:24	ventricularPipefitter	High five.
20:24	dreamSilentAnswer	There's a catch
20:24	ventricularPipefitter	Yeah?
20:24	dreamSilentAnswer	Well
20:24	dreamSilentAnswer	Normally you have one mind that jumps between two bodies
20:24	dreamSilentAnswer	And only one body is ever active
20:24	dreamSilentAnswer	For heart players, you get one mind but both bodies are active and you can jump between them
20:24	dreamSilentAnswer	But for us...
20:25	snaplockSunblood	Not seeing the catch
20:25	dreamSilentAnswer	We've got two minds and two bodies and BOTH ARE ACTVIE
20:25	dreamSilentAnswer	So neither of us can sleep
20:25	steeledProtagonist	oh fuck
20:25	steeledProtagonist	well
20:25	musicalDecay	oh, that sounds sucky.
20:25	steeledProtagonist	you have rage?
20:25	steeledProtagonist	you could yell at someone for them to faint
20:25	steeledProtagonist	...i did it once
20:25	steeledProtagonist	but with howling
20:26	steeledProtagonist	and it was weird as hell 3:
20:26	dreamSilentAnswer	We tried that
20:26	dreamSilentAnswer	It was weird
20:26	dreamSilentAnswer	But mostly it broke the shiny modification
20:26	dreamSilentAnswer	We haven't redone it yet because, well
20:26	dreamSilentAnswer	Anything that means you can never sleep again isn't a real solution
20:27	ventricularPipefitter	Mmmn.
20:27	musicalDecay	yeah, tried no sleep once. doesn't end well.
20:27	snaplockSunblood	...been nosleeping for a while now
20:27	snaplockSunblood	Ain't fun
20:27	ventricularPipefitter	Replayers do better without sleep than, uh, what normal science suggests should be ossible.
20:27	ventricularPipefitter	But it ain't good.
20:28	beneficientTutor	Yes, it is not advisable to avoid sleeping.
20:28	musicalDecay	My law tried to get revenge at me by banning me from sleep once, it ended how you would expect.
20:28	ventricularPipefitter	...Ah. Ileena.
20:28	ventricularPipefitter	When did you come in?
20:28	dreamSilentAnswer	Funny thing
20:29	snaplockSunblood	Easy enough when you have a futureself keeping you from sleeping
20:29	dreamSilentAnswer	When the Rain player heard that we had a shiny mod to remove sleep
20:29	beneficientTutor	I have been here for a short while now.
20:29	dreamSilentAnswer	He begged us to give it to him
20:29	dreamSilentAnswer	I'm not sure if he was serious though
20:29	musicalDecay	oh, I know why
20:29	musicalDecay	he is
20:29	dreamSilentAnswer	Because he couldn't stop laughing
20:29	stanzicApparati	Rain.
20:29	stanzicApparati	He probably is.
20:29	musicalDecay	he is so serious
20:29	stanzicApparati	They laugh no matter what.
20:29	musicalDecay	but don't give it to him
20:29	musicalDecay	trust me.
20:30	dreamSilentAnswer	Why?
20:30	dreamSilentAnswer	Pretty sure that'd make anyone more crazy
20:30	snaplockSunblood	So you don't got that ability on I gather?
20:30	musicalDecay	If you give it to him, he will ignore sleep Intel he dies
20:30	ventricularPipefitter	It's been chaotic. I missed you in the shuffle.
20:30	snaplockSunblood	Don't that mean you ain't gonna get saved or sommat?
20:31	musicalDecay	And he will not even care.
20:31	dreamSilentAnswer	Well it doesn't matter because he misheard
20:31	dreamSilentAnswer	For ME it makes it impossible to sleep
20:31	dreamSilentAnswer	For him it'd just make him control his realself and his dreamself at once
20:31	dreamSilentAnswer	Which would be kind of pointless
20:31	musicalDecay	Yeah, it's just that rain thinks that it can run around with no sleep ever.
20:32	stanzicApparati	Well, Rain.
20:32	musicalDecay	If you try that though, you will randomly pass out after a while.
20:32	snaplockSunblood	Hey. Don't that mean you ain't saved?
20:32	dreamSilentAnswer	yes
20:32	dreamSilentAnswer	yes it does
20:32	dreamSilentAnswer	though I was probably not saved anyways
20:33	dreamSilentAnswer	I mean
20:33	dreamSilentAnswer	Even if we did get it to work
20:33	dreamSilentAnswer	Without side effects
20:33	dreamSilentAnswer	Where would I go?
20:34	dreamSilentAnswer	You can't stall the session forever and you can't stick around once it's over
20:34	snaplockSunblood	Fuck if I know. Player, nondoomed nonplayer and wherever /they/ go
20:34	steeledProtagonist	players to the ring
20:34	musicalDecay	And all the other options are...othery.
20:34	steeledProtagonist	nonplayers to the underworlds
20:35	steeledProtagonist	not in game underworlds
20:35	steeledProtagonist	real ones
20:35	dreamSilentAnswer	The ring isn't othery?
20:36	snaplockSunblood	Just walk through the door and see what happens.
20:36	snaplockSunblood	Gotta be better'n dying
20:36	musicalDecay	never hurt to try something new.
20:36	dreamSilentAnswer	That REALLY isn't an option
20:37	dreamSilentAnswer	like, by this point there's twenty different options telling me I can't walk through the door
20:37	dreamSilentAnswer	And if I try it'll just stop being the alpha timeline
20:37	musicalDecay	did you think about going god mode and merging?
20:38	dreamSilentAnswer	I think Atrophos spent the entire time before we reached her setting this up
20:38	dreamSilentAnswer	...
20:38	dreamSilentAnswer	No
20:38	dreamSilentAnswer	Merging is NOT an option
20:38	musicalDecay	okay, sorry.
20:39	musicalDecay	I'm just used to a bunch of dupli-clones that merge like it's out of style.
20:40	dreamSilentAnswer	Well what works for rain players is not ok for the rest of us
20:40	musicalDecay	oh, trust me. I learnt that a /LONG/ time ago.
20:41	snaplockSunblood	Buh fuck if I know what you oughta do
20:41	snaplockSunblood	They ever say /why/ you can't walk through the door
20:41	ventricularPipefitter	Also, Snaplock, how you been lately?
20:41	dreamSilentAnswer	Well basically, by now we've got it on good authority
20:42	dreamSilentAnswer	Either one of us can walk through just fine
20:42	dreamSilentAnswer	But if the second one tries, she dies
20:42	snaplockSunblood	Dint the creepy Hooks guy have a plan or sommat?
20:42	dreamSilentAnswer	NO
20:42	dreamSilentAnswer	We are NOT DOING HIS PLAN
20:42	equalitySaurus	OKAY I AM BACK TO NOT GETTING PAINTING. (( i.imgur.com/Dw6IN.png ))
20:43	musicalDecay	Hello ES
20:43	musicalDecay	oh, that's sweet
20:43	equalitySaurus	HE IS SHOWING ME THIS AND I THINK IT IS DERSE, AND I AM LIKE, "WHY DID YOU PAINT THAT?"
20:43	equalitySaurus	AND HE IS ALL LIKE, "BECAUSE"
20:43	equalitySaurus	AND I AM LIKE, "UHHHH"
20:43	snaplockSunblood	Why the /fuck/ not?
20:43	snaplockSunblood	You want to live don't ya?
20:43	equalitySaurus	"IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A SWEET DINOSAUR"
20:44	musicalDecay	Sorry ES, not all art can have n=dinosaurs in them.
20:44	dreamSilentAnswer	If we do whatever his plan was
20:44	dreamSilentAnswer	...
20:44	dreamSilentAnswer	Actually I don't even know if we can avoid it at this point
20:44	equalitySaurus	WHY NOT?
20:45	dreamSilentAnswer	But he tried to make a deal with the Others
20:45	dreamSilentAnswer	And they asked a price that is way too high
20:46	steeledProtagonist	this is a good question
20:46	steeledProtagonist	why paintings dont have more dinosaurs
20:46	steeledProtagonist	well mona lisa would look kinda weird with dinosaur head
20:46	steeledProtagonist	but maybe it is jut me
20:46	steeledProtagonist	*just
20:47	steeledProtagonist	also gotta go
20:47	steeledProtagonist	hell
20:47	musicalDecay	Have fun SP
20:47	steeledProtagonist	prospit eclipse is starting soon
20:47	dreamSilentAnswer	Bye!
20:47		steeledProtagonist disconnected
20:47	dreamSilentAnswer	Ugh those things are bad news I say
20:47	musicalDecay	Hey DSA, are you free for a couple minutes?
20:48	dreamSilentAnswer	Yes
20:48	equalitySaurus	 THERE, MUCH BETTER! (( i.imgur.com/jkX21.png ))
20:48	musicalDecay	Can I ask a couple questions about a shiny?
20:49	dreamSilentAnswer	Ok sure
20:49	dreamSilentAnswer	I don't know a lot though
20:49	dreamSilentAnswer	also we should be in another channel if we're gonna do that
20:49	musicalDecay	okay, sounds good.
20:50	musicalDecay	I have no clue how to set one up though
20:50	ventricularPipefitter	MD, sure.
20:50	ventricularPipefitter	What about them?
20:50	musicalDecay	Just a couple things I'm worried about.
20:51	musicalDecay	But a side channel would be best I think.
20:51	dreamSilentAnswer	Here come join me at #HappyShinyTalk
20:51		dreamSilentAnswer has left the main memo


20:58		tenaciousTheseus began responding to the memo
20:59	stanzicApparati	Hey, tenthe.
21:00	tenaciousTheseus	Hiya
21:00	tenaciousTheseus	I miss anything I should know about?
21:02	snaplockSunblood	Silans is refusing to get herself fixed
21:02	tenaciousTheseus	Did she say anything about any plan?
21:02	snaplockSunblood	Yeah she said she ain't gonna do the one Hooks has
21:03	tenaciousTheseus	Mmm
21:03	tenaciousTheseus	Didn't think she would
21:03	tenaciousTheseus	Knowledge at too high a price
21:03	tenaciousTheseus	Sigh
21:05	tenaciousTheseus	So
21:06	tenaciousTheseus	How's everybody doing?
21:06	snaplockSunblood	Just /dandy/
21:06	tenaciousTheseus	Still locked up, I see
21:07	stanzicApparati	I'm doing okay.
21:07	stanzicApparati	Bought out the crafts store in order to get enough yarn.
21:08	ventricularPipefitter	...Enough?
21:08	tenaciousTheseus	Wow
21:08	tenaciousTheseus	Uh
21:08	tenaciousTheseus	What are you planning on making?
21:08		dreamSilentAnswer has returned to the memo
21:09	tenaciousTheseus	Hello
21:09	dreamSilentAnswer	Oh hi!
21:09	dreamSilentAnswer	So, uhh
21:09	dreamSilentAnswer	I probably ought to tell you
21:10	dreamSilentAnswer	We had a partial success with the shiny thing
21:10	snaplockSunblood	Yer back
21:10	dreamSilentAnswer	We can get us both awake at once, and the change CAN be permanent
21:10	tenaciousTheseus	That's good to hear
21:10	dreamSilentAnswer	But if we do it then neither of us can sleep at ALL
21:10	dreamSilentAnswer	And when Danny ordered one of us to sleep the shiny mod broke and we were back to normal
21:10	dreamSilentAnswer	So it won't really work long-term
21:11	tenaciousTheseus	Hm
21:11	tenaciousTheseus	I guess it depends on how long you need to be awake in order to do it completely
21:11	dreamSilentAnswer	Do what completely?
21:12	dreamSilentAnswer	Flee somewhere and live out the rest of my life?
21:12	tenaciousTheseus	I have no idea
21:12	tenaciousTheseus	Make you safe?
21:12	tenaciousTheseus	I was thinking you'd enter the door and become a player in your own right
21:13	dreamSilentAnswer	I really, really can't enter the door
21:13	dreamSilentAnswer	There's so many prophecies saying that won't work by now I've lost count
21:13	dreamSilentAnswer	If one of us uses the door, we're fine
21:13	dreamSilentAnswer	If the second one tries, she dies
21:14	dreamSilentAnswer	We've got everything here--libraries on both moons, dream clouds, the word of two denizens, you name it
21:14	tenaciousTheseus	Sigh
21:15	dreamSilentAnswer	I think Atrophos went back in time and set things up just to make sure we'd run into even more prophecies saying the same thing
21:15	dreamSilentAnswer	Just in case we didn't get the hint
21:15	tenaciousTheseus	Sounds like something a Denizen would do
21:15	dreamSilentAnswer	Also forward in time because yeah
21:15		soulHooks joined the memo
21:15	tenaciousTheseus	Ah, Time travel
21:15	tenaciousTheseus	Hello
21:15	soulHooks	hey
21:15	dreamSilentAnswer	Hey
21:15	dreamSilentAnswer	Umm
21:15	tenaciousTheseus	Before you ask
21:15	dreamSilentAnswer	are you
21:15	dreamSilentAnswer	ok?
21:15	soulHooks	Silent!
21:16	soulHooks	holy shit where the hell have you BEEN are YOU okay oh god
21:16		soulHooks hugs her
21:16		soulHooks hugs her tightly
21:16		dreamSilentAnswer hugs soulHooks
21:16	dreamSilentAnswer	Please don't ever do something like that again
21:16	dreamSilentAnswer	Ever
21:16	soulHooks	don't you ever disappear like that again!!!!!
21:16	soulHooks	D:
21:17	dreamSilentAnswer	Awake me couldn't decide if she was more angry or scared for you
21:17	soulHooks	i'm
21:17	soulHooks	i'm pretty much fine
21:17	soulHooks	but what about you guys?
21:17	soulHooks	did the thing work?
21:17	dreamSilentAnswer	Which thing
21:17	tenaciousTheseus	His plan
21:17	dreamSilentAnswer	Zephyr we
21:17	dreamSilentAnswer	didn't do that plan
21:17	dreamSilentAnswer	We're not going to do that plan
21:18	soulHooks	???
21:18	soulHooks	why not?
21:18	dreamSilentAnswer	Why not?
21:18	dreamSilentAnswer	Why not?
21:18	soulHooks	yes!
21:18	tenaciousTheseus	Because it was a plan give to you by the Horrorterrors
21:18	dreamSilentAnswer	Have you listened to anything either of us ever said?
21:18	tenaciousTheseus	The knowledge came at too high a price
21:18	soulHooks	...
21:18	dreamSilentAnswer	Why would I think I was more important than Eleria?
21:20	soulHooks	but
21:20	dreamSilentAnswer	She made music that hurts the angels
21:20		soulHooks PMs "silent": (maybe you are more important than her)
21:20	dreamSilentAnswer	And is beautiful
21:20		soulHooks PMs "silent": (maybe i think you're really way more important than her)
21:20	dreamSilentAnswer	Next to her, I'm not very important at all
21:21		soulHooks PMs "silent": (maybe i would die to save you)
21:21		soulHooks PMs "silent": (okay?!)
21:21	dreamSilentAnswer	I'm just you guys' special project, to try to save if you can
21:21	soulHooks	that's not true
21:21	tenaciousTheseus	You are a PLayer
21:21	dreamSilentAnswer	...
21:21	dreamSilentAnswer	soulHooks
21:21	tenaciousTheseus	That is why we are going to save you
21:21	dreamSilentAnswer	don't
21:21	dreamSilentAnswer	don't say things like that
21:22	dreamSilentAnswer	you shouldn't...
21:22	dreamSilentAnswer	I'm going to die ok?
21:22	soulHooks	not okay!
21:22	dreamSilentAnswer	I've mostly accepted it
21:22	soulHooks	i--
21:22	soulHooks	i can't let you die
21:22	dreamSilentAnswer	So it's true isn't it?
21:22	dreamSilentAnswer	What she said?
21:23	dreamSilentAnswer	That you're in love with... one of me
21:23	dreamSilentAnswer	Maybe both
21:23	dreamSilentAnswer	It has to be
21:23	soulHooks	i--
21:23	dreamSilentAnswer	That's why you're doing this, right?
21:23	soulHooks	no, i'm just
21:23	soulHooks	responsible
21:23	tenaciousTheseus	You are not responsible, Zephyr
21:23	soulHooks	i talked up all this stuff about sapience
21:23	dreamSilentAnswer	You're responsible for your own session
21:23	soulHooks	and killing lex luthor
21:23	dreamSilentAnswer	You're responsible for Eleria, not me
21:24	soulHooks	but
21:24	soulHooks	oh, god, come one
21:24	soulHooks	on
21:24	soulHooks	please
21:24	soulHooks	just
21:24	soulHooks	be selfish
21:24	soulHooks	for me
21:24	soulHooks	please
21:24		snaplockSunblood PMs ventricularPipefitter (How is it not?)
21:24	dreamSilentAnswer	Have you ever seen either of us be that selfish?
21:24	dreamSilentAnswer	Once?
21:25	dreamSilentAnswer	Even before we talked to you?
21:25	dreamSilentAnswer	I read that log, you know
21:25	soulHooks	i
21:25	dreamSilentAnswer	You also talked up another thing in there
21:25	dreamSilentAnswer	Choices
21:25	dreamSilentAnswer	You were big on choices that day
21:25	dreamSilentAnswer	On us being able to make them, and the choices mattering
21:26	soulHooks	but i never wanted you to make this one
21:26	tenaciousTheseus	Sadistic choices pop up a lot
21:26	tenaciousTheseus	No  one likes this
21:26	tenaciousTheseus	No one wanted it to come down to this
21:27	tenaciousTheseus	But all our attempts to find a way out have failed
21:27	dreamSilentAnswer	Actually
21:27	dreamSilentAnswer	I still have one choice left
21:29	snaplockSunblood	Oh fuck what are you gonna do now?
21:29	soulHooks	what is it?
21:30	tenaciousTheseus	What happens when someone dies?
21:30	tenaciousTheseus	And Ascends?
21:31	tenaciousTheseus	The dreamself and the waking self become one
21:31	tenaciousTheseus	it's never been much of a change, really
21:31	dreamSilentAnswer	No. That's... not an option
21:31	tenaciousTheseus	But
21:31	tenaciousTheseus	Oh?
21:31	tenaciousTheseus	Hm
21:31	dreamSilentAnswer	Awake me  actually tried that
21:31	dreamSilentAnswer	TWICE
21:31	dreamSilentAnswer	in branch timeliens
21:31	dreamSilentAnswer	Both times it just plain killed me and left her in the god tier robes
21:31	soulHooks	don't
21:31	dreamSilentAnswer	No
21:32	dreamSilentAnswer	I think
21:32	soulHooks	leave me hanging
21:32	soulHooks	silent
21:32	dreamSilentAnswer	The Choice Echidna was talking about
21:32	dreamSilentAnswer	Was which one of us it would be
21:32	dreamSilentAnswer	There's lots of prophecies saying that we can't both use the door
21:32	dreamSilentAnswer	None of them say WHICH of us will
21:33	dreamSilentAnswer	That's the Choice
21:33	dreamSilentAnswer	It might even be MY Choice
21:33	ventricularPipefitter	So. She's made hers. But you haven't made Yours.
21:35	dreamSilentAnswer	I have
21:35	dreamSilentAnswer	but not irreversibly yet
21:35	ventricularPipefitter	Mm. Unlike her.
21:35	dreamSilentAnswer	I think we both made that decision pretty quickly right from the start
21:35	dreamSilentAnswer	Took it as a given, even
21:35	tenaciousTheseus	Mmm
21:36	dreamSilentAnswer	So
21:37	dreamSilentAnswer	I know that's not what you wanted to hear, Zephyr
21:37	dreamSilentAnswer	or, well, anyone
21:37	dreamSilentAnswer	But I think that's all we've got
21:37	dreamSilentAnswer	And we're going to have to accept it
21:37	soulHooks	...
21:37	soulHooks	i
21:37	soulHooks	silent, i
21:37	tenaciousTheseus	Sigh
21:38	dreamSilentAnswer	I don't know why I thought a second Choice was going to make things easier
21:38	dreamSilentAnswer	Except maybe blind hope
21:38		soulHooks 's computer has stopped being a computer