Interpreter	Accused
He said, “let’s go to the house,”

Tell us what happened
He said, “tell us what happened,”	What happened was she fell down from stairs
So, I sat by her and soothed her
Soothed her… soothed her… soothed her
I can’t. She ran out from my stomach
I suddenly grabbed her hand.
I grabbed too hard that she hit the wall and fell down the stairs and she sat down there.
She sat there … she sat there … she sat there… then she was motionless. Then I dragged her and placed her by the foot of the bed.
Right after I had placed her, I ran out and found her shoe at the entrance of upstairs.
I took the shoe and put it in toilet and I held the kid from her arms and put her in toilet.

You put her in bathroom?	Yes
How did you get to your uncle’s house?	Hum?
He asked how you got to your uncle’s house.	To my uncle’s house… To my uncle’s house (Note: cannot hear clearly)
I left the house and closed the door.
I have no key to lock.
I have lost the key.
So I left without locking.
I left the house and when I got outside, the bus arrived.
I took the bus.
At the end of the route, I got to train station and I took train.
I got off at the stop of 7 and 2.
After I got off, I…
Where does your uncle live?	At the far end
Where?
City side?	I don’t know.
City is on this side.
What I said is that side.
What bus stop did you go?
What bus stop?
The bus stop in front of your house?
Or bus stop of somewhere else?	The other bus stop from a distance
Not the one in front of your house?	No … no
Not the stop in front of our house
I went to the other bus stop
I waited at this side bus stop (in front of his house) but no bus came so I went to the other stop.
Aww. You mean this side (of the road) and that side?
Bus going this wayward and bus going that wayward
Like that?
No?	I had to take this wayward
The same
I had to take the bus of same wayward.
You didn’t go to this stop but to this stop?	I quit waiting at this stop and went to next stop.
Do you know how to take bus?	I know if I take the bus on that route, I will get to the station.
What is that? What bus?	205
You went to downtown? You took train?	Yes
Where did you go by that train?	I took the train and I got off after 3 stations.
Do you know it’s library?	I don’t know.
You don’t know library
Where did you arrive when you got off after 3 stations?	I took another bus after I had gotten off after 3 stations.
What bus?
Bus number?	Bus number 72
72?	Yes
That 72 Bus can take you to your uncle?	Yes, it can.
Was there blood on your shirt when you took the bus?	As I have mentioned earlier, there was a small blood stain here only.
I folded that stained area and…
No blood on pants?	No
Nobody noticed?	Nobody noticed.
You went to your uncle’s house	Yes
Who were home?	At Uncle’s house, my aunt
Your Uncle wasn’t home?	No, he wasn’t.
My blood uncle is left far away.
He (blood uncle) is not here.
Who’s here is step-father.
Step-father?	Yes
So, the one you have been referring to as Uncle is your step-father?	My aunt has divorced with my blood uncle. Then my blood uncle was left.
What you meant was your aunt was your blood aunt?	That aunt is my blood aunt.
Next husband of your aunt	Yes
So, your uncle and your aunt were home.	Yes
Who else was there?	There are two single female young adults.
And a twins.
A small kid of this size.
How old are two single female young adults?	One is 20.
Another is 27.
Single? 2 single?	Yes.
And how many childrend? 	There is a twins.
They are toddlers.
There are 2.
And there is another boy.
All those people were home?	Yes
Give me their names	I don’t remember names of the twins
Uncle’s name?	Ma Ral Pe (as heard)
Aunt’s name?	Mi Cho
Mi Cho?	Yes
20 years old girl’s?	20 years old girl is Ferrita (as heard)
27 years old girl’s?	17 years old girl’s is…
27?	17
What’s her name?	Cathita (as heard)
Another one is… school boy is
A kid?	A kid
Wine Yi Tar (as heard)
Is he the youngest?	There is a kid called John Nine under that kid.
John Nine?	Yes
This one is a school boy?	He goes to school.
John Nine doesn’t go to school?	He does.
He goes to school too.
Both are school boys?	Yes.
How about this twins?	Twins can hardly sit let alone to walk.
So, twins are the smallest? (he might have meant to say youngest)	Twins are the smallest.
All those people are at your uncle’s house?	Yes
How did you explain about the blood on your shirt?	They didn’t see.
None of them saw it.
Where did you wash your shirt?	Upstairs
Upstairs of their house.
In the bowl where we wash our face.
The stain was this small
Just this area.
The stain was very small and I washed it secretly.
Nobody asked you why you were there?
Why you came to their house?
Nobody asked you?	As I have mentioned earlier, I took glue for my uncle to fix his bicycle.
I took the glue.
You brought the glue while you were running?	Yes.
I put the glue in my pant pockets when he gave me.
I thought I forgot money for bus fare.
I thought I didn’t have money.
Only when I was on bus, I searched my pockets and I found money for bus fare.
Why … for what reason that girl was downstairs?	I have mentioned earlier.
Yes… but you have to answer to him.
Why? Because you like her? What do you think of her? Were you planning to do something to her?
Why did the girl come downstairs? She wouldn’t have come down unless you asked her to because it was not her house.	No, she did.
She used to come without my asking.
She and I were like a sister and brother.
We were friends.
We played together.
Everyone around noticed that.
Everyone in our quarter knew that.
I and xxx (cannot hear well)
We were as if brothers.
She followed me wherever I went.
If I rode bicycle, she followed me with her bike.
She and I were very close…
Did the girl like you?	Hum?
Did the girl fancy you?	That I don’t know.
I like her as a brother.
I like her only as a brother.
However, whatever I got to eat… when I brought some snacks, I shared with her.
She gave me her snack… if her house gave her some snack… she took and shared them with me.
That’s all.
The way she liked you … was it like a girlfriend?
Or as a friend?
How did she like you?	I liked her as a friend.
But… she called me “A Bite Gyi Sar”(as heard)
A Ba? (old man)	A Bite Gyi Sar
Do you think she fancied you?
Did she look like she fancied you?	I don’t know.
I didn’t notice.
You can guess.
You can guess what the girl was like.
You know.
Fancying someone is something.
Obvious.
Her facial expressions… and sorts
Right?
There are hints.
What did you think?
He said you must have thought about it.	I didn’t think otherwise.
He asked if she asked you like let’s go downstairs and look.	No, she didn’t.
Then did she go down by herself?	She didn’t go down by herself.
I have told you.
I grabbed her and hit her against the wall that she fell down the stairs.
She fell down to downstairs.
Why did you grab her?	She dashed off.
She dashed off suddenly that…
No… She was downstairs before she fell down, wasn’t she?	No. She was upstairs.
In the middle floor.
The floor where the round TV was.
A kid will not say she will tell her father if she gets small injury or small blood from playing. She said she would tell her father because there must have been a situation with you… together with you.
Like I said, if she fell down from upstairs while playing, her blood would be all over the stairs.
Now, there were blood on wall and on bed and all over the bathroom… there were blood all over the place.
Like I said, how did you persuade her to go downstairs?
Did you say you’d go play downstairs?
Did you say let’s go take bath downstairs?
Did you say you have something to show her downstairs?
How did you persuade her to go downstairs?	Not any of these.
I have told you before.
I grabbed her and hit her and she fell down.
She was on her face on a flight.
He said she didn’t fall like that/
He said if she fell down from the stairs, there would have been blood on flights.
Now there were no blood on this place and blood were only in that room.
How did she fall down?
Hold on
First time, you said she fell down while she was playing near the stairs.
Next time, you said she fell down while playing in the house.
Then, how did she fall down?	Xxx (cannot hear clearly)
She ran up upstairs.
You know.
She ran up to Maung Kyaw Zin’s room.
As she ran, I suddenly grabbed her but I didn’t catch her shirt and I caught this part of her leg.
So, she fell down on her face and hit her mouth with the flight of the stair.
I am not sure she hit here or here
She had blood on her mouth and she said she will tell her father for making her bleed.
Why did you grab her?	Huh?
The reason of trying to catch her was Maung Kyaw Zin didn’t like someone going upstairs.
He said “Somebody came up here and messed things up. And there is a kid who came to this house and dialled 911.”
It was not an accident? You pulled her down?	I didn’t mean to pull her down.
Did the girl come alone yesterday?	She came alone on that day of the problem.
Why did she come?	When she came, I was watching TV.
Xxx (can’t hear well)
She said she would watch TV and came in.
Did she knock?	No, she didn’t.
I didn’t bolt the door.
She opened the door by herself and entered.
She opened the door and came in and I checked and saw it was her.
Then what happened?
What happened after she entered?	She came in.
I was sitting and watching TV.
She came in and she suddenly pressed a button and changed the channel. She changed to Cartoon Net.
I told her “Don’t do like that. The movie is getting good. They are shooting and stuff. The movie is getting good.”
I said so and she looked and shouted something I didn’t catch. She said something I didn’t catch and she went into kitchen and opened the fridge.
I told her “Don’t open it. Maung Kyaw doesn’t like it. Maung Kyaw scolded me twice. You dialled 911 when you came last time, right?”
Then she said she didn’t know or stuff.
She said she didn’t know so I couldn’t say anything else. I cannot force her about something she said she didn’t know.
What did you say after police coming and Maung Kyaw Zin’s dislike?	After I had said so, she said she was going upstairs.
Carry on	I told her, “Don’t go upstairs. You messed things up last time and I got scolded. This time you go upstairs and I don’t know what mess you will make.”
Carry on.
You told her not to go.	I told her not to go.
She didn’t listen to me and she ran up that I suddenly got up and tried to grab her.
I couldn’t get a hold of her shirt and caught her foot instead.
It was sudden and actually I was to catch her only.
She was running that her foot tripped and fell on her face.