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Pokemon Red TMless Guide

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  1. This is a guide for how to beat Pokemon Red without using any TM's (TMless). Teaching TM's to any pokemon for any reason is banned. Since certain HM's are required to progress the game, teaching HM moves is allowed, even nonessential ones (mainly just fly, but also technically applies to flash); however, using any HM moves in battle is banned.
  2.  
  3. This guide is still a work in progress and is subject to change at any time. This guide also assumes you know the general glitchless route (locations of important items, how to get Instant Text, etc.)
  4.  
  5. Special thanks to entrpntr for finding a zapdos manip and for helping to route the endgame
  6.  
  7. TODO:
  8. -determine if early or late misty is faster
  9. -revive route?
  10.  
  11.  
  12.  
  13. The route is the same as glitchless up to Mt. Moon, with small changes:
  14. -Buy 6 poke balls in viridian (need 5 and want 1 extra for the bag slot)
  15. -Buy 6 potions in pewter, also buy antidote if you used one on weedle (necessary for dugtrio manip)
  16. -Money is pretty flexible, so you can buy extra balls and potions if you like, but you then have to do the Pewter shop after Brock
  17. -Swap leer and Horn Attack (HA) on third Route 3 trainer
  18. -Take the center before Mt. Moon
  19.  
  20.  
  21. Mt. Moon:
  22. Super Nerd: HAx3, HA+HA(+PS)
  23. Get Rare Candy and Escape Rope
  24. Lass: HA+HA(+PS)
  25. Pallete Moon Manip: https://youtu.be/I5GdxA5jMIw
  26. - Tap Palette
  27. - https://gunnermaniac.com/pokeworld?map=59#24/7/LLLLLLLDLDDDDDDDDDLLLLLUUUUULULUUUALLUULUUUULLLDDARR
  28. - https://gunnermaniac.com/pokeworld?map=60#5/5/DDRRADDDDDDDDDDRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
  29. - https://gunnermaniac.com/pokeworld?map=61#21/17/RRUUURRRDDRRRRRRRUURRRADDDDDDDDLLLLDDDDDDDDDLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAUUUUUAUUUAUUUUAU
  30. Catch Paras
  31.  
  32.  
  33. Use Moon Stone on Nidorino
  34. Rocket: HA+PS, HAx2
  35. Super Nerd: HAx2, HA+HA/PS, HA+HA(+PS)
  36. Do Backup Paras if Necessary
  37. Pick up Great Ball if doing Stringflow's Dugtrio manip: http://extratricky.com/pokeworld/rb/1#170,47
  38.  
  39. Nugget Bridge and Bill's House:
  40. Take Cerulean Center
  41. Get Instant Text
  42. Get Rare Candy
  43. Bridge Rival: HAx3,HA,HA+PS,HAx2 (swap to bird if sand attack and you are scared of dying)
  44. Nugget Bridge: HA until lvl 21 (after mankey), PS if possible
  45. After mankey: Rare Candy x2
  46. Teach Thrash in slot 1 (no longer need horn attack)
  47. Rocket: Thrash
  48. Top Hiker: Thrash
  49. Pick up Elixir: http://extratricky.com/pokeworld/rb/1#260,1
  50. Lass: Thrash
  51. Boyfriend (not the hiker): Thrash
  52. Lass: Thrash
  53. Pick up Ether: http://extratricky.com/pokeworld/rb/1#288,3
  54. Talk to Bill
  55.  
  56.  
  57. ************
  58. ROUTING NOTE
  59. ************
  60.  
  61. It is still unknown if doing misty early with nidoking or doing it late with dugtrio is better. Late misty saves about 3-4 turns over the course of the run, but requires extra biking down to vermillion, taking 40-50 seconds. I am of the opinion that early misty is faster, however it is much, much safer to do late misty with dugtrio. If one wishes to do late misty, the only changes from the notes below are to get bike voucher immediately upon entering vermillion, dig out of diglett cave and do misty after getting dugtrio, and rare candying after the second slowpoke in rock tunnel instead after the bug catcher.
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  63. ****************
  64. END ROUTING NOTE
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  66.  
  67.  
  68. Early Misty (skip if doing late misty):
  69. Bill: Potion to 70+, escape rope
  70. -make sure you have at least one potion left so that dugtrio manip will work
  71. Get IT
  72. Do Misty, Thrash
  73.  
  74. Get Underground Full Restore
  75.  
  76. Vermillion:
  77. Cerulean Rocket: Thrash
  78. Cooltrainers: Thrash
  79. If doing late misty, get bike voucher now
  80.  
  81.  
  82. There are two dugtrio manips (name one character)
  83.  
  84. Chillmagic Dugtrio Manip:
  85. -E5DF
  86. -No setup required (nidoking in slot 1, uses poke ball, still need antidote though)
  87. -https://pastebin.com/bKzcP6Ww
  88. -This is much faster but has lower HP and defense which makes dying to lavender rival much more likely
  89.  
  90. Stringflow Dugtrio Manip:
  91. -DB2C
  92. -Swap Paras to slot 1
  93. -Swap Great Ball to slot 1
  94. -First 4 items must be Great Ball, Antidote, Potion, TM34. Order shouldn't matter as long as Great Ball is in slot 1.
  95. -https://youtu.be/E__xHBoaGGc
  96. -This is slower because of all the setup but safer for lavender rival
  97.  
  98. Swap dugtrio to slot 1
  99. Swap Dig to slot 1 in first fight
  100.  
  101. Late Misty (skip if doing early misty):
  102. Dig out of diglett cave, get bike
  103. Bike to Misty
  104. Goldeen: Dig
  105. Misty: Dig, scratch until less than 37 hp, Dig
  106. -You want to take damage here to set up rock tunnel redbar, if not just dig starmie
  107. Bike back to vermillion
  108.  
  109.  
  110. S.S. Anne:
  111. Gentleman: Dig x2
  112. Get Candy
  113. Boat Rival: Scratch Pidgeotto (x2-3), Dig the rest
  114. -swap to bird if you get sand attacked, missing dig is really slow
  115. -if going for rock tunnel redbar you can stall on raticate with growl, but its risky. You want to end this fight at around 11-15 health
  116. Get Cut
  117. Mart:
  118. -Buy 3 repels
  119. -Sell antidote, all potions, TM34, nugget, TM28, TM11
  120. Surge Menu: swap slot 1 with repels, teach cut
  121. Cans Manip
  122. Surge: Dig, Scratch (x2), Dig
  123. -can stall on pika, QA does 5-6 with no growls
  124. Bike Voucher if don't have it yet, Dig out of voucher house
  125.  
  126. Rock Tunnel:
  127. Get Bike
  128. Bike Menu: Swap 2 with Bike, toss tm24, use ether on dig, bike
  129. 4 turn thrash: Dig x4
  130. Bug Catcher: Dig x3
  131. Take one step into rock tunnel, then repel
  132.  
  133. Rock Tunnel (continued):
  134. Cubone Guy: Dig x2
  135. Slowpoke Guy: Dig + Scratch
  136. -If going in redbar, this fight is super scary
  137. -Dig is 41% range with crits
  138. -Confusion: 8-10
  139. -Headbutt: 13-16
  140. -Also knows disable
  141. Use Elixir
  142. (Late Misty) Use Rare Candy on Dugtrio, Teach Slash slot 2
  143. Oddish: Dig x2 (Slash x2 if have it)
  144. Hiker: Dig x3
  145. -the rocks love to explode while you are underground it's great
  146. (Early Misty) Rare Candy on Dugtrio Teach Slash in Slot 2
  147. Jr. Trainer: Slash x3
  148.  
  149. Get Max Ether
  150.  
  151. Gambler: Slash x2
  152. Skip Underground Elixir
  153. Take the Celadon Center
  154. Shopping:
  155. New Shopping! Top to Bottom
  156. -Take Elevator to 5th Floor
  157. -5 X Accs
  158. -5 X Specials
  159. -25 X Attacks
  160. -1 Fresh Water
  161. -1 Poke Doll
  162. -10 Super Repels
  163. -4 Super Potions
  164. -This shopping has 1 extra Acc, 2 extra Specials, who knows how many extra Attacks but its definitely overkill
  165. Get Fly
  166.  
  167. Poke Flute:
  168. Fly Menu
  169. -Swap 3 with X Attacks
  170. -Super Repel
  171. -Teach Fly
  172. -Fly to Lavender
  173. Rival: Slash all
  174. -consider saving before, most dangerous fight in the route besides early misty
  175. -Pidgeotto: 10-12, 18-22 crit
  176. -Gyarados, 57-68, dead to crit
  177. -Ivysaur is a 97% range with slash. If you don't want to risk that, Dig is 100% but slower
  178. Ghastlies: Dig x4
  179. Pick up the fast Elixir
  180. Ghost Menu: Swap 2 with super repels, Poke Doll
  181. Rocket 1: Slash, Slash, Slash+Scratch
  182. Rocket 2: Dig, Slash
  183. Rocket 3: Slash x4
  184. Get Poke Flute
  185.  
  186. Koga:
  187. Fly to Celadon
  188. Do not take Center
  189. Snorlax Menu:
  190. -DO NOT Super repel
  191. -swap 5 with Elixir
  192. -flute
  193. Do Left Side Cycling Road, pick up Max Elixir
  194. Safari Zone (2 super repels)
  195. Get Full Restore
  196. Get Gold Teeth, Surf
  197. Dig out, Fly to Fuschia
  198. Juggler 1: Dig, Dig, Slash, Slash
  199. Juggler 2: i dunno just dig
  200. -optimal fight is Dig drowzee, Slash x2 hypno, but since jugglers like switching it can be hard
  201. -just improvise and do your best
  202. -if poisoned, full restore after fight (dugtrio needs to be alive and not in redbar for zapdos manip)
  203. Koga: X attack, swap 4 with X special, X Acc, Dig x4 (X acc for koffing smokescreen and muk minimize)
  204.  
  205.  
  206. After Koga:
  207. Get strength
  208. Fly to cerulean
  209. Bike to water
  210. Use super repel, swap bike with poke balls, teach strength to squirtle, surf to squirtle
  211. Bike to power plant
  212. Do Zapdos manip:
  213. > https://youtu.be/cnvatyiQtUQ
  214. > Map: https://gunnermaniac.com/pokeworld?map=83#12/7/LUUAUULALLALLDLALDDADD
  215. Name Zapdos one character
  216. -Note, leading pokemon must be dugtrio, and first four items must be poke balls, super repels, X Attacks, and X Specials
  217. Walk out, swap zapdos to slot 1, fly to Celadon
  218.  
  219. Erika:
  220. Bike to Erika's Gym (bike is down quite a bit, nothing can be done)
  221. Exeggcute: Swap drill peck to slot 1, drill
  222. Erika: Drill x3
  223. Fly to Pallet
  224.  
  225. Blaine:
  226. Palette menu: swap 1 with bike, use rare candy on Zapdos, use super repel, surf
  227. -Rare Candy is done here to give Zapdos less experience (we want to not get level 60 to avoid light screen teach)
  228. Do pokemon mansion, get secret key
  229. Dig out, fly to Cinnabar, Bike to Blaine
  230. Questions: ABBBAB
  231. Blaine: x special, x acc, Thunder x4
  232. Dig out
  233.  
  234. Silph:
  235. Arbok: Drill
  236. Pick up card key
  237. Rival: Tshock, Tshock, Tshock(x2), Drill, Drill
  238. -If burned, X attack, after the fight full restore
  239. -Drill PP is really tight, need to Tshock Growlithe (86-91% range depending on which Zap you got)
  240. Rocket: Drill x3-4
  241. Giovanni: Drill, X attack, Drill, Drill x2, Drill
  242. -Nidorino moveset: Horn Attack, Poison Sting, Fury Attack, Focus Energy
  243. -Kangaskhan moveset: Comet Punch, Rage, Bite, Tail Whip
  244. -Nidorino dies with no setup and has 2 bad moves compared to Kangaskhan's 1 bad move, so setup on Kangaskhan
  245. Dig out, Fly to Saffron
  246.  
  247. Sabrina:
  248. Bike to Sabrina
  249. Sabrina: Drill x4
  250. -If you run out of drills, Max Ether during the fight
  251. Swap Dugtrio to Front, Dig out, Fly to Viridian
  252.  
  253. Giovanni:
  254. Max Ether Drill Peck (assuming you didn't during Sabrina), Bike to Giovanni
  255. Cooltrainer: X Attack, Dig
  256. Blackbelt: Send in Dugtrio, Swap to Zapdos turn 1, Drill, Tshock, Drill
  257. -Need to split xp on Zapdos
  258. Pick up Revive for Bag Space
  259. Swap Zapdos back to Slot 1
  260. Giovanni: X attack x2, Drill x2, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill x4
  261.  
  262. Final Stretch:
  263. Super repel, Elixir, Full Restore if necessary, Bike
  264. -Since E4 Center is skipped, want very high health for Lorelei, aurora beam does a lot and jynx is a range
  265. Viridian Rival: X attack x2, Tshock, Drill x2, Tshock, Drill, Drill, Drill
  266. Get Victory Road Full Restore (definitely need 2 full restores, but shouldn't need more than 2, you should have a bunch of super potions too)
  267.  
  268. Deposit all (keep bird if you want to be safe with revive, Lorelei can be scary)
  269. Lorelei: X Acc, Thunder, Thunder, Thunder, Drill(x2), Thunder
  270. -Aurora Beam: 51-60, 108-128 crit
  271. -Ice Punch: 61-72, 129-152 crit
  272. -Jynx is 62% range with Drill Peck
  273.  
  274. Full Restore
  275. Bruno: X attack x6, Drill a lot, Drill, Drill, Drill a lot, Drill
  276. -Bruno's onixes have X Defend and Harden, ideally he uses rage since that locks him into it. 2 X Attacks is optimal for the ranges, but I choose to set up some extra Attacks since the Onixes are so dumb
  277. -If drill pecks run out, max elixir during fight
  278.  
  279. Max Elixir if didn't during Bruno, heal if necessary (night shade does 56)
  280. Agatha: (full restore/poke flute immediately if put to sleep), X attack x2, Drill x5
  281. -Mist is really bad, hope she doesn't swap turn one
  282.  
  283. Full Restore
  284. Lance: X Acc, Thunder, X Special x2, Thunder x4
  285. -New low xp route has Zapdos level up after Gyarados, we need both speed badge boosts for Aerodactyl
  286.  
  287. Champ: X attack x4, X special, Drill a lot, Tshock Gyarados
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