>>>> Lesta Nediam LNC2016-01-13 0440 +grahvis

Lesta Nediam LNC2016-01-13 0440 +grahvis
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+grahvis __ Thank you for your reply. Two quick points. 1) You did not record that purported "ISS" lunar transit yourself. You are making the SAME ERROR in thinking that you are doing with this video/thread. You are relying on someone else (a stranger you have never met) giving you an honest presentation of something that is admitted to be RARE and extraordinary (and indeed if it were real WOULD be).




That is to say - EVEN IF the alleged "ISS" were real then what is claimed to have been captured *is* in itself an extraordinary claim. It is ripe for con-artists and charlatans to get clicks, views and lol$. Therefore it must NOT be dumbly and blindly accepted as proof of anything. It needs a little more scrutiny.




The fact you are citing it as proof only affirms what I am saying: you are belief controlled. You *believe it is real* therefore you are incapable of examining the footage or the issue as anything *but* real. Yet upon scrutiny we *do* find reasons to doubt its authenticity (I am talking about the purported "ISS" lunar transit).




2) *EVEN IF* those purported "lunar transits" of the alleged "ISS" of the Moon were genuine (and I am NOT suggesting they are but *even if*) it can have NO CONSEQUENCE whatsoever on the veracity of the purported "space tour" by "Sunita Williams". _They remain disconnected and separate events._




One can be true and remain independent of the other and one can be true while the other fabricated. *There is no reason to think that both are not fake.* I am not just saying that because you expect me to say it. I am going to include that footage and channel you have cited in an upcoming video (that is why I wrote "thank you" at the start).




Because I am not belief controlled on this issue I have no difficulty in seeing what you cannot.




If you were to realise that the purported "ISS lunar transit" is fabricated would you be more inclined to believe the "ISS tour" was fake? If you are the kind of person I think you are (belief controlled) then to discover the "ISS" footage is fake would have no impact on you.




Even if a thousand brief clips of the "ISS" could be proven to you to be fake it would not have any impact on you. Because you believe it is real. In your bones it is real. Even if every single visual representation and motion picture representation of the alleged "ISS" could be proven with absolute certainty to be fake and fabricated it would have no effect whatsoever on your belief that there is a real and manned "ISS".




You would continue to believe the "ISS" is real and manned because it is what you WANT to believe. You WANT to believe you live in a world where there is an "International Space Station". Whether or not that is because you WANT to believe that humanity can do remarkable and things or because one day you want humanity to have a "Star Trek" future - I cannot say. But by golly and by crikey - _you believe._




And that's the problem. You are powerless to doubt. Everyone has seen that bright flash in the sky that whizzes past - everyone at some point will have seen it. And it does not occur to you that the same groups of people who tell you it's filled with little men and women are the same groups of people who drop bombs on children. It does not occur to you that the "ISS" is a propaganda platform.




It does not occur to you that there is only one. Why not two? It does not occur to you that there have allegedly been real and manned "space stations" for literally decades now but only one at a time. There are not two centabillion dollar zero gravity research facilities. Only one - always only one.




And they spend all of their free time instead of talking to university students and researchers but instead to primary school aged children. Where they do a somersault in-between wringing out wet cloths. Where every purported interview upon scrutiny is indistinguishable from a pre-recorded "choose your own adventure" playback (nothing we see or hear - certainly not by way of unscripted back-and-forth banter necessarily suggests it is happening live).




It is indistinguishable from a magic show for children and for adults who have remained as children.




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If there ever was a real and manned "ISS" (which I am not suggesting) then there is no reason to think it is presently manned. And EVEN IF there is a presently manned "ISS" (which I categorically am not suggesting) it DOES NOT mean the footage we are seeing by way of any alleged "ISS tour" - such as by "Sunita Williams" - is genuine.




All of this seems lost on you because you are *powerless* to scrutinise the footage and claims in an authentic way. You cannot be a genuine skeptic because you can only perceive reality on the other side of your eyes as being a world where there really is a *manned "ISS". You can't even entertain the idea there is no manned "ISS" for even a second.*




Even though you - yourself - have NEVER seen it through a telescope that could make out any details.




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You DO acknowledge that an objective CUT, EDIT and JOIN has been made and was pointed out in my video. You DO acknowledge that rather than cut the clip at any other (arguably more appropriate) time the objective and undeniable cut was made *DURING the SMOOTH MOTION of bringing a toothbrush toward his mouth.* _You must surely realise that this is a very odd moment to have performed an edit/cut/join._




It's all right in front of you. But you are belief controlled and cannot for a second explore the possibility you are wrong. _Not even for a millisecond._




So what that you believe you had once picked up signals from "Sputnik 1" in 1957? *So what?* What does that have to do with this? Just because you believe you picked up signals from "Sputnik 1" in 1957 does not mean any of the other things you are pointing out are necessarily real. Just because you believe you picked up signals from "Sputnik 1" in 1957 does not mean "Lance Armstrong" would not decades later be found guilty of drug cheating.




You are effectively trying to reason with me as follows: that because you believe you had picked up signals of "Sputnik 1" in 1957 it means there is a real and manned "ISS" in in 2016?




That is - _of course_ - absurd. So I don't think you really mean that.




Are you not really trying to ask of me, *_"Why would 'they' go to all of that elaborate trouble just to fake it? Wouldn't it be easier for 'them' to just do the real thing?"_*






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