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- And with that movie
- 2001, you're projecting us
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- into the 21st century.
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- 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,249
- I brought along
- my son, Jonathan,
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- 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,041
- who, in the year 2001, will
- be the same age as I am now.
- 5
- 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,090
- Maybe he will be better
- adjusted to this kind of world
- 6
- 00:00:38,160 --> 00:00:40,083
- that you're trying to portray.
- 7
- 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:41,924
- The big
- difference, when he grows up...
- 8
- 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,367
- In fact, if we wanted to
- wait until the year 2001,
- 9
- 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:47,086
- is that he will have,
- in his own house,
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- not a computer as big as this,
- 11
- 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,325
- but at least a console
- 12
- 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,250
- through which he can talk to
- his friendly local computer
- 13
- 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,051
- and get all the information he
- needs for his everyday life,
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- 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,243
- like his bank statements,
- his theater reservations,
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- 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,051
- all the information you need
- 16
- 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,726
- in the course of living
- in a complex modern society.
- 17
- 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,930
- This will be in a compact
- form in his own house.
- 18
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- He'll have a television screen,
- 19
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- like these here, and a keyboard,
- 20
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- and he'll talk to the computer,
- and get information from it.
- 21
- 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,444
- And he'll take it as much for
- granted as we take the telephone.
- 22
- 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,856
- I wonder, though,
- what sort of a life
- 23
- 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,406
- would it be like,
- in social terms?
- 24
- 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,403
- If our whole life is built
- around the computer,
- 25
- 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,568
- do we become
- a computer-dependent society?
- 26
- 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,769
- In some ways, but they will
- also enrich our society
- 27
- 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,444
- because it will
- make it possible for us
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- to live, really,
- anywhere we like.
- 29
- 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,281
- Any businessman and executive could
- live almost anywhere on Earth
- 30
- 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,761
- and still do his business
- through a device like this.
- 31
- 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,367
- And this is a wonderful thing, it means
- we won't have to be stuck in cities.
- 32
- 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,603
- We'll be able to live out in the
- country, or wherever we please.
- 33
- 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,004
- Screen says
- it's an unimplemented trap,
- 34
- 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,481
- but the error code is wrong,
- it's a system error.
- 35
- 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,807
- - So what's the upshot?
- - It's not gonna say, "Hello."
- 36
- 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,216
- It absolutely is
- gonna say "Hello."
- 37
- 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,656
- It's nobody's fault, it's a system error.
- 38
- 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:03,681
- You built the voice demo.
- 39
- 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,096
- - The voice demo is flaky...
- - Keep your voices down.
- 40
- 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,401
- I've been telling you that for...
- This thing is overbuilt.
- 41
- 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:08,811
- It worked last night.
- 42
- 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,200
- It worked the night before that.
- It worked three hours ago.
- 43
- 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,481
- It's not working now, so just
- skip over the voice demo.
- 44
- 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,608
- - Fuck you.
- - Everything else is working.
- 45
- 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:16,886
- Skip over the voice demo.
- 46
- 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,883
- We need it to say, "Hello."
- 47
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- You're not hearing me, it's
- not going to say, "Hello."
- 48
- 00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:22,331
- Just fix it.
- 49
- 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:23,606
- - Fix it?
- - Yeah.
- 50
- 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,566
- - In 40 minutes?
- - Fix it.
- 51
- 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,170
- - I can't.
- - Who's the person who can?
- 52
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- I'm the person who can,
- and I can't.
- 53
- 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:35,576
- - How bad are you saying?
- - It's pretty bad.
- 54
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- I don't know what that means.
- 55
- 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,962
- It means the demo is more
- than likely gonna crash.
- 56
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- You have to keep
- your voices down,
- 57
- 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,216
- Joel Pforzheimer is
- sitting out in the house.
- 58
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- I don't care if...
- 59
- 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:45,244
- Who's Joel Pforzheimer?
- 60
- 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,120
- GQ. He's been shadowing you
- for a week, did you notice?
- 61
- 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,168
- Just look like
- everything's fine,
- 62
- 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,605
- he's sitting out in the house.
- 63
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- Hey.
- 64
- 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,323
- What are you guys saying?
- 65
- 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,207
- Some kind of race condition, but we
- haven't been able to track it down yet.
- 66
- 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:03,884
- Is the synthesizer
- sampling fast enough?
- 67
- 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,611
- No, so the rates are
- off, and it keeps crashing.
- 68
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- It's 20 seconds out of a
- two-hour launch, why not just cut it?
- 69
- 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,336
- - We can't cut it.
- - Yeah, you just cut it.
- 70
- 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,249
- Two days ago,
- we ran a Super Bowl ad
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- that could've won the Oscar
- for Best Short Film.
- 72
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- There are more people
- who can tell you about the ad
- 73
- 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:18,496
- than can tell you
- who won the game.
- 74
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- I understand, but the ad said the
- Mac was gonna save the world.
- 75
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- It didn't say it was
- gonna say, "Hello."
- 76
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- We open the house in five.
- 77
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- Don't open the house.
- 78
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- We're taking a quick break.
- 79
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- Part of the problem is, we
- can recompile... What?
- 80
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- But if it's a hardware problem
- , we can't get into the back.
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- Why not?
- 82
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- Do you wanna tell her,
- or should I?
- 83
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- Don't start with me, man.
- 84
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- Why can't he get
- into the machine?
- 85
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- You need special tools.
- 86
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- What kind of special tools?
- Just take a screwdriver.
- 87
- 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,529
- He didn't want users
- to be able to open it.
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- You need special tools.
- 89
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- Is this for real?
- 90
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- There are 100 engineers walking around
- here. None of them have the tools?
- 91
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- In fairness, not many
- of them were issued the tools.
- 92
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- What about you?
- 93
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- I left them at the office,
- it was 3:00 a.m. when I...
- 94
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- Oh, Jesus Christ.
- Cut "Hello." No!
- 95
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- What's the first
- rule of a launch?
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- It's not gonna crash.
- 97
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- It just did.
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- Andy!
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- Which one?
- 100
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- The other Andy. You're right
- there, why would I be calling out?
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- He needs to talk to you.
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- Yeah.
- 103
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- The exit signs need to be off,
- 104
- 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:17,736
- or we're not gonna
- get a full blackout.
- 105
- 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,250
- We've spoken
- to the building manager
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- - and the fire marshal.
- - And?
- 107
- 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,576
- There's absolutely no way they're
- gonna let us turn the exit signs off.
- 108
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- I'll pay whatever the fine is.
- 109
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- The fine is, they're gonna come
- in and tell everyone to leave.
- 110
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- You explained to
- the fire marshal
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- that we're in here
- changing the world?
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- I did, but unless we can
- also change
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- the properties of fire,
- he doesn't care.
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- Steve...
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- If a fire causes a stampede
- to the unmarked exits,
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- it'll have been well worth it
- for those who survive.
- 117
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- For those who don't, less so,
- but still pretty good.
- 118
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- Look, I... I need it to go black.
- Real black.
- 119
- 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,563
- Get rid of the exit signs and
- don't let me know how you did it.
- 120
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- Fix the voice demo.
- 121
- 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,882
- You need special
- tools to open the Mac?
- 122
- 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,325
- You knew it was a closed system.
- 123
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- - I didn't know literally.
- - Jesus.
- 124
- 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,921
- And if you keep alienating
- people for no reason,
- 125
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- there's gonna be no one left
- for it to say "Hello" to.
- 126
- 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,686
- It's not for no reason.
- 127
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- We blow this, and IBM will own the
- next 50 years like a Batman villain.
- 128
- 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:10,536
- Remember the phone company?
- 129
- 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,688
- That's what Bell was called,
- "the phone company."
- 130
- 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,524
- IBM will be
- the computer company.
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- Ten years later, they'll be
- the information company,
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- and that's very bad
- for the human race.
- 133
- 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,611
- So we don't have time
- to be polite or realistic,
- 134
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- because if we are, this
- company's next product launch
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- will be held
- in front of 26 people
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- and a stringer from the Alameda
- County Shoppers' Guide.
- 137
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- We haven't advertised
- the voice software.
- 138
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- We could pull it
- out of the demo,
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- and no one would
- be disappointed.
- 140
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- Do you want to try being
- reasonable, just, you know,
- 141
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- see what it feels like?
- 142
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- Okay. Pull the voice demo.
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- Thank you.
- 144
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- And then cancel the launch.
- 145
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- I see.
- 146
- 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:52,896
- You just tricked me a little.
- 147
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- You can tell me
- how unimportant it is,
- 148
- 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,004
- but if the computer
- doesn't say, "Hello,"
- 149
- 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,770
- then neither will John Sculley,
- 150
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- who, I promise you,
- agrees with me.
- 151
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- Sculley's not gonna cancel the
- launch because he's not insane.
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- He's also not a hack,
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- and when it comes
- to the Macintosh,
- 154
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- he's gonna do
- what I ask him to do.
- 155
- 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:08,566
- What's in this box?
- 156
- 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,286
- Nothing you need to worry
- about, don't even open it.
- 157
- 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:12,885
- What the fuck?
- 158
- 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,323
- Why is there a carton of...
- Who did this?
- 159
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- - Somebody thought...
- - Who?
- 160
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- Doesn't matter.
- 161
- 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,525
- Thought it would be a good idea
- 162
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- to have copies
- of that Time cover
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- available at everyone's seat.
- 164
- 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,043
- It was nipped in the bud,
- and all the copies
- 165
- 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,256
- are being taken
- out of the building,
- 166
- 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:28,691
- so, problem solved.
- 167
- 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,205
- This isn't a Macintosh.
- 168
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- I understand.
- 169
- 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,283
- Somebody thought it
- would be a good idea
- 170
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- to, like, enthusiastically
- hand over copies of Time
- 171
- 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,283
- with a not-a-Macintosh
- on the cover
- 172
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- at the launch of the Macintosh?
- 173
- 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,083
- What are they handing out
- at Hewlett-Packard?
- 174
- 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,720
- A bushel of apples
- with my face on them?
- 175
- 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,683
- - I'm sure the thinking was...
- - Yeah?
- 176
- 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,768
- That since the computer
- is Man of the Year
- 177
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- that that's good
- for our business,
- 178
- 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,526
- but like I said, I'm having
- them removed from the building.
- 179
- 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:52,920
- What I'd like you
- to do with them
- 180
- 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,803
- is to take them,
- all 2,600 copies,
- 181
- 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,644
- and stack them on Kottke's desk,
- 182
- 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,768
- and tell him Steve says,
- "Happy New Year to you ."
- 183
- 00:06:58,840 --> 00:06:59,841
- Okay.
- 184
- 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:02,764
- I gave Time magazine full
- access, the whole campus.
- 185
- 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:05,969
- Bandley, Apple II, Lisa. I
- gave him Sculley, Markkula.
- 186
- 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,168
- I gave him Woz,
- I gave him everybody.
- 187
- 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:10,976
- What should I call
- the person who thought
- 188
- 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,496
- it would be a good idea
- to hand these out?
- 189
- 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,648
- I'm not telling you who it was.
- 190
- 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,291
- It was done without malice,
- it's been taken care of.
- 191
- 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,886
- You have a half hour, and we
- have things to talk about.
- 192
- 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,126
- Like what?
- 193
- 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,407
- Like a million
- in the first 90 days.
- 194
- 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,010
- Joanna... 20,000
- a month after that.
- 195
- 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,776
- Look. Those are the forecasts.
- I'm begging you.
- 196
- 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,484
- Because this is my field,
- 197
- 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,962
- I'm begging you to manage
- expectations out there.
- 198
- 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,121
- I'm fanning expectations.
- 199
- 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,568
- We're not gonna sell a million
- in the first 90 days.
- 200
- 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,087
- Everyone, everyone, everyone.
- 201
- 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,004
- Everyone is waiting for the Mac.
- 202
- 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:46,641
- Maybe.
- 203
- 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,610
- But what happens when they
- find out that for $2,495,
- 204
- 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,762
- there's nothing
- you can do with it?
- 205
- 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,320
- We were competitive at $1,500,
- 206
- 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,121
- but once you replaced the
- Motorola 6809 with the 68000...
- 207
- 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,248
- Which is what
- supports menus, windows,
- 208
- 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:02,656
- point and click,
- high-res graphics...
- 209
- 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,048
- Yeah, because everyone needs
- rectangles with rounded corners.
- 210
- 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,321
- Coach lands on the runway at the
- exact same time as first class.
- 211
- 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,163
- I don't have the first fucking
- idea what that means,
- 212
- 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,322
- but this is how
- it got to $2,500,
- 213
- 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,085
- which is the price point on the
- PC, which can do a lot more!
- 214
- 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,571
- Who's gonna want a PC?
- 215
- 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,961
- What idiot is gonna want...
- 216
- 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,849
- If I wanna tell you
- there's a spot
- 217
- 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,649
- on your shirt,
- I point to the spot.
- 218
- 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,564
- I don't say there's a spot 14
- centimeters down from the collar
- 219
- 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,456
- and three centimeters to the
- right of the second button,
- 220
- 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,484
- while I try to remember what
- the command is for club soda.
- 221
- 00:08:37,560 --> 00:08:39,528
- That's not how
- a person's mind works.
- 222
- 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,446
- If the goal was ease of use, maybe
- you should've given it some memory.
- 223
- 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,244
- You can complain about memory,
- or you can complain about price,
- 224
- 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,164
- but you can't do both
- at the same time.
- 225
- 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,322
- Memory is what costs money.
- 226
- 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,846
- And I'm glad you're telling me
- your feelings about the Mac now
- 227
- 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,365
- because we have
- a half hour left.
- 228
- 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,010
- We can redesign it.
- 229
- 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,401
- I'm just asking you
- to manage expectations.
- 230
- 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,721
- Look at their faces
- when they see what it is.
- 231
- 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,126
- They won't know what they're
- looking at or why they like it,
- 232
- 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,440
- but they'll know they want it.
- 233
- 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:08,931
- Not instantly.
- 234
- 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,002
- When people heard
- Rite of Spring,
- 235
- 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,088
- they tore the chairs
- out of the theater,
- 236
- 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:14,525
- they didn't buy the record.
- 237
- 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,409
- Rite of Spring happens to be
- 238
- 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,736
- the most revolutionary and provocative
- symphony of the last century.
- 239
- 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,569
- - Ballet.
- - It was a ballet.
- 240
- 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:25,043
- But Igor Stravinsky didn't say he was
- gonna sell 20,000 units a month.
- 241
- 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,122
- I don't know why we're
- talking about Stravinsky,
- 242
- 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,806
- when what I care about
- is Dan Kottke
- 243
- 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,922
- sodomizing me in Time magazine.
- 244
- 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,128
- Look. Obviously...
- 245
- 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,923
- Let me say this.
- 246
- 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,004
- Obviously, Daniel didn't think
- he was doing anything wrong.
- 247
- 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,809
- By talking to Time about it?
- 248
- 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:43,881
- Yeah.
- 249
- 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:45,765
- I don't know what that means.
- 250
- 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:51,601
- You said, when you told me the story.
- . . You said, you said to Dan,
- 251
- 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:54,445
- "Did Time magazine ask you if
- I had a daughter named Lisa?"
- 252
- 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:55,851
- And Dan said, "Yeah."
- 253
- 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,762
- My point was that he answered
- you simply and honestly
- 254
- 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,127
- because he didn't think
- he'd done anything wrong.
- 255
- 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,726
- Except, Joanna, except,
- 256
- 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,087
- I don't have
- a daughter named Lisa.
- 257
- 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,767
- And this story is now about how I'm
- denying paternity and took a blood test.
- 258
- 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,405
- And that's why
- there's a picture of...
- 259
- 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,045
- I don't know what
- the fuck that is.
- 260
- 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,481
- That's why there's a picture
- of a PC on the cover
- 261
- 00:10:17,560 --> 00:10:20,530
- instead of a picture of me
- and the Mac.
- 262
- 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,567
- I don't know what to tell you.
- 263
- 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,450
- I was supposed to be Time
- magazine's Man of the Year.
- 264
- 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,368
- And then Dan Kottke was born.
- 265
- 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:35,801
- Well...
- 266
- 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:36,880
- What?
- 267
- 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,649
- She's waiting for you.
- 268
- 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:39,801
- Who?
- 269
- 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,330
- Chrisann.
- 270
- 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:43,481
- Brennan?
- 271
- 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:44,561
- They're out in the hall.
- 272
- 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:45,856
- They've been sitting in the back
- 273
- 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,689
- of the auditorium
- since 7:00 this morning.
- 274
- 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,366
- I'm not having a session
- with Chrisann right now.
- 275
- 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,727
- We issued 335 press
- credentials for the launch.
- 276
- 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,605
- Steve, you piss off Chrisann,
- 277
- 00:10:57,680 --> 00:11:01,048
- she's gonna stand in the lobby
- and give 335 interviews,
- 278
- 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,682
- and you, pal, will be longing for
- the halcyon days of Dan Kottke.
- 279
- 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,850
- Let me get this over with.
- 280
- 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,241
- But don't leave.
- You're gonna stay here.
- 281
- 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,010
- What? No, I'm not.
- 282
- 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,650
- No. There's less of
- a chance of a scene
- 283
- 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,330
- if you stay here,
- she'll be cool.
- 284
- 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,881
- I find all this excruciatingly
- personal and...
- 285
- 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:25,720
- I'm not staying.
- 286
- 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,321
- Come on.
- 287
- 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,928
- I don't wanna be in a room
- alone with Chrisann.
- 288
- 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,805
- This is me and you.
- 289
- 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:40,361
- Fine.
- 290
- 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:49,641
- Hey.
- 291
- 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:54,641
- Steve.
- 292
- 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,210
- This is a surprise.
- 293
- 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,051
- Why don't you come on in?
- 294
- 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:00,646
- Thank you.
- 295
- 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:04,841
- You coming too?
- 296
- 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,416
- Yes, I'm not gonna
- leave her in the hallway.
- 297
- 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,488
- Okay. It's a safe hallway,
- but anyway.
- 298
- 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,771
- You remember Joanna Hoffman? She's
- the head of marketing for the Mac.
- 299
- 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:12,841
- Good to see you.
- 300
- 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,331
- Nice to see you.
- 301
- 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:16,561
- Hello, Lisa.
- 302
- 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,564
- We've met before, and you told
- me you like the way I talk,
- 303
- 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,530
- and that was my favorite thing
- anyone's ever said to me.
- 304
- 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,086
- You're from Poland.
- 305
- 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,208
- Yes, I am. Do you
- know where that is?
- 306
- 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:27,881
- The top of the Earth.
- 307
- 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,844
- I think you're thinking
- of the North Pole.
- 308
- 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,922
- Well, we're a little
- pressed for time, so...
- 309
- 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,206
- I'll leave you guys alone.
- 310
- 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,816
- Why do you wanna leave
- when you just said...
- 311
- 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,205
- I'm gonna check in
- with Hertzfeld.
- 312
- 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,321
- We're trying to get
- a computer to say "Hello,"
- 313
- 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,727
- but right now
- it's being very shy.
- 314
- 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,848
- Would you come help me?
- Is that okay?
- 315
- 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,360
- Sure.
- 316
- 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,606
- Thank you.
- 317
- 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,803
- My dad named
- a computer after me.
- 318
- 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,251
- I'm not your...
- 319
- 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,721
- Actually, do you know
- what a coincidence is, Lisa?
- 320
- 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,006
- No.
- 321
- 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,930
- Like if you met someone.
- 322
- 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,282
- You made a new friend
- and her name was Lisa, too.
- 323
- 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,044
- That would be a coincidence.
- 324
- 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,483
- "Lisa" stands for "local
- integrated systems architecture."
- 325
- 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,050
- L-I-S-A.
- 326
- 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:23,085
- It's a coincidence.
- 327
- 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:26,721
- You about done?
- 328
- 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,609
- - Yeah.
- - Okay.
- 329
- 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,321
- Come.
- 330
- 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,331
- Let's make that
- computer say "Hi."
- 331
- 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,809
- Go ahead, Lisa.
- 332
- 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,168
- So it was the other way around.
- 333
- 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:42,330
- I was named after the computer?
- 334
- 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,802
- Nothing was named after anybody.
- It's a coincidence.
- 335
- 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,201
- Come on.
- 336
- 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,176
- What's the matter with you?
- 337
- 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,256
- What's the matter with you? Why
- are you telling her these things?
- 338
- 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,169
- Why are you still telling
- her I'm her father?
- 339
- 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,240
- A judge told her you're her father.
- No, he didn't.
- 340
- 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,416
- And where the hell
- do you get off
- 341
- 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,091
- telling Time magazine I've slept
- with 28% of the men in America?
- 342
- 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,924
- That's not...
- Where do you get off?
- 343
- 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,606
- That's not remotely what I said.
- 344
- 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:12,885
- It's right here.
- 345
- 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,136
- First of all, can I tell you
- something about Time magazine?
- 346
- 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,811
- I believe it's a training
- facility for paid assassins.
- 347
- 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,049
- "Jobs insists," I am quoting...
- 348
- 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,201
- I didn't invent math.
- 349
- 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,604
- "28% of the male population of the
- United States could be the father."
- 350
- 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,450
- I wasn't saying you've slept
- with 28% of American men.
- 351
- 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,364
- I was using an algorithm
- based on the blood test,
- 352
- 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,001
- which said there was a 94.1%
- chance that I'm the father.
- 353
- 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,846
- You're trying to publicly paint
- me as a slut and a whore.
- 354
- 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,096
- Believe me, I'm not trying to
- publicly do anything with you.
- 355
- 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,600
- Two million people read Time.
- How am I supposed...
- 356
- 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,096
- It would be more if they'd
- put me on the cover,
- 357
- 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,736
- but Dan Kottke decided
- to kidney-punch me.
- 358
- 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,842
- I applied for welfare yesterday.
- 359
- 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,280
- - I'm sorry?
- - Hello!
- 360
- 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,249
- I said I applied
- for welfare yesterday.
- 361
- 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,680
- The Time article said your Apple
- stock was worth $441 million.
- 362
- 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,568
- And I wanted to ask you
- how you felt about that.
- 363
- 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,723
- Well, I feel like Apple stock has
- been dramatically undervalued.
- 364
- 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,365
- This would be
- a good time to get in.
- 365
- 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,048
- Your daughter and her mother...
- 366
- 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,328
- - Chrisann.
- - Are on welfare.
- 367
- 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,006
- We're living in
- a hovel in Menlo Park.
- 368
- 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,445
- We can't pay the heating bills.
- 369
- 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,564
- She sleeps in a parka.
- Your daughter...
- 370
- 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,404
- She's not my daughter!
- 371
- 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,404
- Because, as reported
- by Time magazine,
- 372
- 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,687
- I've slept with 28%
- of the men in America?
- 373
- 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:28,761
- - No.
- - All of them,
- 374
- 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,571
- exactly nine months
- before Lisa was born!
- 375
- 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,169
- I've got Andy here.
- 376
- 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,131
- Excuse me.
- 377
- 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:58,321
- We're there?
- 378
- 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,526
- Hey, Chris.
- 379
- 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:00,886
- - Hey, Andy.
- - How are you doin'?
- 380
- 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,121
- Terrible.
- 381
- 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,281
- You guys caught up now?
- 382
- 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,966
- Excuse me for saying hello to my
- friend who thinks you're a dick.
- 383
- 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,416
- I don't think you're a...
- We're there?
- 384
- 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,488
- No. It's got a one-in-six
- chance of working.
- 385
- 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:10,561
- God damn it.
- 386
- 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,804
- We're not a pit crew at Daytona.
- 387
- 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,326
- This can't be fixed in seconds.
- 388
- 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,006
- You didn't have seconds,
- you had three weeks.
- 389
- 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,203
- The universe was created
- in a third of that time.
- 390
- 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,601
- Well, someday you'll have to
- tell us how you did it.
- 391
- 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,410
- Here's what I'm gonna do.
- 392
- 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,802
- I'm gonna announce the names of
- everyone who designed the launch demo.
- 393
- 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,491
- I'm gonna introduce everyone
- and ask them to stand up.
- 394
- 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,722
- The bag was designed
- by Susan Kare.
- 395
- 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,962
- The Macintosh font that's
- scrolling across the screen
- 396
- 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:42,690
- was designed by Steve Capps.
- 397
- 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,843
- The starry night and
- skywriting was Bruce Horn.
- 398
- 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,720
- MacPaint, MacWrite, Alice...
- 399
- 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,529
- Down to the calculator.
- 400
- 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,649
- And then I'm gonna say, the
- voice demo that didn't work
- 401
- 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,961
- was designed by Andy Hertzfeld.
- 402
- 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,249
- Steve...
- Five in six is your chance
- 403
- 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,240
- of surviving the first round
- of Russian roulette,
- 404
- 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,044
- and you've reversed those odds.
- 405
- 00:17:10,120 --> 00:17:11,485
- So unless you wanna be disgraced
- 406
- 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:12,846
- in front of
- your friends, family,
- 407
- 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,605
- colleagues, stockholders,
- and the press,
- 408
- 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,370
- I wouldn't stand here arguing.
- 409
- 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,807
- I'd go try and get some more
- bullets out of the gun.
- 410
- 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,325
- Do it, Andy!
- 411
- 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,327
- Stop. You.
- 412
- 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,003
- What size shirt do you wear? Me?
- 413
- 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,456
- Does anyone know
- what size shirt he wears?
- 414
- 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:33,736
- Does anyone know
- what size shirt I wear?
- 415
- 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,736
- Does anyone know where
- the closest psychiatrist is?
- 416
- 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,762
- The disk fits in your pocket.
- 417
- 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,246
- I need a shirt with a breast
- pocket, I can take it out onstage.
- 418
- 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:42,765
- - A shirt?
- - The disk!
- 419
- 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,730
- I need a white shirt in my
- size with a breast pocket.
- 420
- 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,963
- Yes. Which one of the no
- stores that are open at 8:45
- 421
- 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,522
- do you want me to have someone run
- to and return from in 15 minutes?
- 422
- 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,446
- Go out in the lobby, find someone my
- size who's wearing a white shirt,
- 423
- 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,568
- tell them I'll trade them
- for a free computer,
- 424
- 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,444
- and they get to keep my shirt.
- 425
- 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,921
- Does it have to be a white shirt?
- Is blue okay?
- 426
- 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,082
- - No. The Mac is beige,
- - I'm beige,
- 427
- 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,561
- the disk is blue,
- the shirt has to be white.
- 428
- 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:08,641
- Andy?
- 429
- 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,640
- Hello, I'm Macintosh.
- 430
- 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,371
- Bring me the head
- of Andy Hertzfeld.
- 431
- 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,851
- I tried to get it to say,
- "Hello," but it's shy.
- 432
- 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,445
- Yeah.
- 433
- 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,170
- So that's it?
- 434
- 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,480
- That's it.
- 435
- 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:48,961
- I don't get it.
- 436
- 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,610
- I know.
- 437
- 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,409
- What are people
- going to do with it?
- 438
- 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,126
- Lisa, how old are you now?
- 439
- 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,016
- You know how old she is.
- How old are you, Lisa?
- 440
- 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,565
- Five.
- 441
- 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,008
- Come sit here for a minute.
- 442
- 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,163
- Do you know what this is?
- 443
- 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,289
- It's a computer.
- 444
- 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:12,089
- Can I borrow
- your hand for a second?
- 445
- 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:16,441
- Point that arrow and click.
- 446
- 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,809
- You don't have to, but if you
- want, you can play with it.
- 447
- 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,136
- Nothing you can do
- will break it,
- 448
- 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,376
- so just do
- whatever you want with it.
- 449
- 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,401
- What are you doing?
- 450
- 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,642
- I'm paying you exactly what the
- court ordered me to pay you.
- 451
- 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,485
- $385 a month.
- 452
- 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,648
- I'm not the one who
- decided on that amount.
- 453
- 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,688
- And I'm asking you how you feel.
- 454
- 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:37,966
- If you feel all right.
- 455
- 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,441
- If it feels all right to
- you that your daughter...
- 456
- 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,329
- She's not my...
- That your daughter
- 457
- 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,209
- and her mother are on welfare
- 458
- 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,046
- while you're worth $441
- million for making that.
- 459
- 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:51,329
- I'm proud to say Apple donates
- computers to underfunded schools,
- 460
- 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,736
- and we'll be doing more of
- the same with the Mac...
- 461
- 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:53,761
- What?
- 462
- 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,690
- Apple donates millions of dollars'
- worth of computers to schools.
- 463
- 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,688
- What does that
- have to do with...
- 464
- 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:04,567
- Imagine an underprivileged kid that has
- their favorite teacher with them 24 hours.
- 465
- 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,416
- We're minutes away
- from being able to do that.
- 466
- 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,091
- In your head, was that
- an answer to my question?
- 467
- 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,764
- Tell me the question again.
- 468
- 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,087
- I wasn't the one who sued
- you for child support.
- 469
- 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,969
- No, let...
- San Mateo County sued you.
- 470
- 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,403
- No, let me explain
- what happened,
- 471
- 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,040
- because I have
- plenty of time right now.
- 472
- 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,843
- - Excuse me.
- - You have a visitor.
- 473
- 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,366
- Just wanted to say good luck!
- Hey, Chrisann.
- 474
- 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,440
- Hello, Woz.
- 475
- 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,481
- Hang on.
- 476
- 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,336
- Just wanted to say good luck.
- 477
- 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:34,407
- Thanks. You, too.
- 478
- 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:35,720
- - It's a big morning.
- - Yeah.
- 479
- 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,404
- You should see
- this crowd out there.
- 480
- 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,448
- This crowd, it's like, um...
- 481
- 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,250
- I can't really wait for you to
- come up with a metaphor, man.
- 482
- 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,926
- Yeah. So, uh, listen, I
- want to ask you a favor. Yeah?
- 483
- 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,287
- Can you acknowledge the Apple II
- team in your remarks?
- 484
- 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:50,361
- I cannot.
- 485
- 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,091
- Just an acknowledgment.
- Have them stand up.
- 486
- 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,481
- We're launching the Mac.
- 487
- 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,130
- It'd be a morale booster,
- just a mention
- 488
- 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,416
- so they could get
- a round of applause.
- 489
- 00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:59,566
- - Woz...
- - Just a mention.
- 490
- 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,776
- Can we stick a pin
- in this for a minute?
- 491
- 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,086
- - Sure, yep.
- - Thank you.
- 492
- 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,367
- Just talking about an
- acknowledgment for the team.
- 493
- 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,920
- I've got Chrisann in there.
- I'll see you in just a second.
- 494
- 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,206
- Yep.
- 495
- 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:16,841
- That.
- 496
- 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,607
- What?
- 497
- 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,656
- You asked me what
- people are gonna do with it.
- 498
- 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,681
- They're gonna do that.
- 499
- 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,803
- One of the engineers.
- 500
- 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,245
- Thank you.
- 501
- 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,366
- Do you like it?
- 502
- 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,006
- I'm sorry?
- 503
- 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,889
- It's an abstract.
- 504
- 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,563
- You used MacPaint.
- 505
- 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,125
- Push that key and the "S"
- at the same time.
- 506
- 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,405
- Now type your name.
- 507
- 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:10,965
- Do you know
- which box says "Save"?
- 508
- 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,206
- Right. Go ahead and click on it.
- 509
- 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,364
- I'll put some money
- in your account.
- 510
- 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,727
- And buy you a new house,
- someplace near a decent school.
- 511
- 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,244
- Thank you.
- 512
- 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,642
- Woz wants a minute.
- 513
- 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,011
- And Sculley's asking for you.
- 514
- 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,127
- We're done?
- 515
- 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,088
- Could you teach me more things?
- 516
- 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,286
- On the computer?
- 517
- 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,964
- Lisa, wait for me
- in the hall, please.
- 518
- 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,489
- You can put your coat on
- in the hall.
- 519
- 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,481
- Bye, Lisa.
- 520
- 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,007
- Bye.
- 521
- 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,650
- Lisa, in the hall. Now.
- 522
- 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,480
- I just wanna know, when you say
- 523
- 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:01,656
- you're gonna put
- money in my account,
- 524
- 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:02,841
- how much we're talking about.
- 525
- 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,680
- It's a school day.
- She needs to be in school.
- 526
- 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,209
- I'm gonna give you
- whatever you need.
- 527
- 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,325
- Woz wants me to acknowledge
- the Apple II team.
- 528
- 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,047
- You must be able to see
- that she looks like you.
- 529
- 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:34,281
- I don't want to insult Woz.
- 530
- 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:36,966
- I just think it's backward-looking
- at exactly the wrong moment.
- 531
- 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,566
- I know you heard what I said.
- 532
- 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,244
- I heard what you said, Joanna.
- 533
- 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,163
- It's just, we're about to
- do this thing.
- 534
- 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,208
- At 9:41, the planet's gonna shift
- on its axis, nigh and forever.
- 535
- 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,287
- Two most significant events
- of the 20th century.
- 536
- 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:53,840
- The Allies win the War,
- and this.
- 537
- 00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:55,521
- This.
- 538
- 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,000
- So maybe right now isn't the
- very best time to scold me
- 539
- 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,089
- for not being a better father
- to a kid who's not my kid.
- 540
- 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,282
- The test said I... I don't
- care what the test said.
- 541
- 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:07,285
- I don't care about 94.1%, or
- the insane algorithm you used
- 542
- 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:08,496
- to get to 28% of American men.
- 543
- 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,601
- I'm buying her a new house.
- 544
- 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,761
- I'm giving her money.
- 545
- 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,081
- There's a small girl who
- believes you're her father.
- 546
- 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,201
- That's all. That's all
- the math there is.
- 547
- 00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:19,681
- She believes it. What are
- you gonna do about that?
- 548
- 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,811
- God sent his only son
- on a suicide mission,
- 549
- 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,451
- but we like him anyway
- because he made trees.
- 550
- 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,564
- We're gonna sell a million
- units in the first 90 days,
- 551
- 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,802
- 20,000 a month after that.
- 552
- 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,760
- So maybe you could give me
- a break, Ms. Hoffman?
- 553
- 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,321
- Woz.
- 554
- 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,400
- Hey.
- 555
- 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,776
- There's nothing in that vending
- machine that won't kill you.
- 556
- 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,800
- Just browsing.
- 557
- 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:34,921
- Let's take a walk.
- 558
- 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,161
- Can I tell you something?
- 559
- 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,363
- Yeah. After the
- meeting in Maui,
- 560
- 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,250
- the Apple II team was upset and angry
- and down, and do you know why?
- 561
- 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,096
- Because the Apple II
- wasn't mentioned even once?
- 562
- 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:45,327
- The Apple II wasn't mentioned...
- 563
- 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,050
- Yes, that's it.
- You have it, yes.
- 564
- 00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:48,326
- That wasn't an oversight.
- 565
- 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,602
- They know that.
- They know it wasn't.
- 566
- 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,576
- Look, I don't wanna make
- a big deal out of this...
- 567
- 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,045
- That's entirely
- within your power.
- 568
- 00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:55,281
- The Apple II is...
- 569
- 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:56,885
- The Apple II is
- what was, my friend.
- 570
- 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,043
- The Apple II is what pays the bills
- around here and has for seven years.
- 571
- 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,525
- And if you
- embarrass these people,
- 572
- 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,080
- you are going to see a brain drain
- at this company, my brother.
- 573
- 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,490
- Markkula took you off the Lisa,
- 574
- 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,244
- not them and not me,
- so don't blame...
- 575
- 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,216
- Markkula took me off the Lisa
- because of his strong religious
- 576
- 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,049
- objection to making it good.
- 577
- 00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:14,964
- Now, I gave you everything
- you wanted on the Apple II.
- 578
- 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,761
- You don't ask for a lot? There
- wasn't a single fight you lost.
- 579
- 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,136
- Do you concede the slots
- are the reason
- 580
- 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,296
- for the success of the Apple II?
- 581
- 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,696
- We can't possibly still be
- talking about the slots.
- 582
- 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:23,721
- I have a point.
- 583
- 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,616
- It's been seven years. The eight
- slots on the Apple II...
- 584
- 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,136
- You're still doing it, you're
- talking about the slots.
- 585
- 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,296
- There's something
- wrong with you.
- 586
- 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,845
- This argument
- started in the garage.
- 587
- 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,371
- What are you talking about? Why
- would you only want two slots?
- 588
- 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,408
- A printer and a modem.
- 589
- 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,209
- With eight slots, you...
- 590
- 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,124
- This is a huge deal that we
- were able to add eight slots.
- 591
- 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,010
- I appreciate the engineering,
- but it's not what we're doing.
- 592
- 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,929
- - And thank God I won that argument.
- - Woz.
- 593
- 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,456
- Because the open system is what
- people love about the machine,
- 594
- 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,209
- and it's why it sold
- and still sells.
- 595
- 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:52,362
- An open system. We're not
- doing an open system.
- 596
- 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,601
- Of course we are.
- 597
- 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,524
- That's what people want, and the
- breakthrough on the Apple II...
- 598
- 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,000
- People don't know what they want
- until you show it to them.
- 599
- 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,251
- Serious users want to customize,
- 600
- 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,288
- they wanna modify,
- they wanna jack it up.
- 601
- 00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:05,805
- They want hardware
- engineers like me
- 602
- 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,644
- to expand its capabilities,
- okay?
- 603
- 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,922
- Keyboards for music,
- better sound board,
- 604
- 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,760
- better display boards,
- improved memory cards.
- 605
- 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,121
- And it's why there are
- 3,000 people here right now.
- 606
- 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,176
- The slots are what allowed
- the Apple II to run,
- 607
- 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,407
- for just one example, VisiCalc,
- which, from my guess,
- 608
- 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,167
- single-handedly sold between
- 200,000 and 300,000 machines.
- 609
- 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,526
- They want slots.
- 610
- 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,170
- They don't get a vote.
- 611
- 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,576
- When Dylan wrote
- Shelter from the Storm,
- 612
- 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,520
- he didn't ask people
- to contribute to the lyrics.
- 613
- 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,576
- Plays don't stop so the
- playwright can ask the audience
- 614
- 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,965
- what scene they'd like
- to see next.
- 615
- 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,600
- Painters... We're on the verge of
- a tectonic... Hobbyists are...
- 616
- 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,563
- Hobbyists?
- 617
- 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,244
- A printer and a modem,
- two slots.
- 618
- 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,763
- The Apple II team
- has my affection,
- 619
- 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,003
- but I'm not loving up a 7-year-old
- product at the Mac launch.
- 620
- 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,570
- Computers aren't paintings.
- 621
- 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,609
- Fuck you.
- 622
- 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,808
- I'm gonna say "fuck you"
- every time you say that
- 623
- 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,325
- until you either die or stop.
- 624
- 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,680
- - Steve...
- - Try it.
- 625
- 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:54,841
- - Steve.
- - Say it.
- 626
- 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,685
- Computers aren't paintings.
- Fuck you.
- 627
- 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,764
- Yes, they are, and what I
- want is a closed system.
- 628
- 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,001
- End-to-end control.
- 629
- 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,526
- Completely incompatible
- with anything.
- 630
- 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,400
- Computers aren't supposed
- to have human flaws.
- 631
- 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,961
- I'm not going to build
- this one with yours.
- 632
- 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,801
- Steve!
- 633
- 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,681
- Hey.
- 634
- 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,450
- Today is about the Macintosh.
- 635
- 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,205
- And the Mac is mine.
- 636
- 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,281
- I give you that.
- 637
- 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,656
- - Thank you.
- - I give you that.
- 638
- 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,444
- Just publicly acknowledge
- the Apple II team
- 639
- 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:37,965
- because it's
- the right thing to do.
- 640
- 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,488
- We'll know soon enough if you are
- Leonardo da Vinci or just think you are,
- 641
- 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,244
- but in the meantime,
- it would be great...
- 642
- 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,766
- In the meantime,
- the Apple II is done.
- 643
- 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,002
- Seven years.
- It was a great run.
- 644
- 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,080
- You should go out in the
- house and take your seat.
- 645
- 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,165
- The Mac is Jef Raskin's.
- 646
- 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,969
- Say it for me.
- 647
- 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,296
- - Computers aren't...
- - Fuck you.
- 648
- 00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,321
- All right.
- 649
- 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,804
- - We're there?
- - I need more time.
- 650
- 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,041
- You can't have it.
- 651
- 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,770
- - Twenty minutes.
- - It's 8:58.
- 652
- 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,251
- We can start late.
- 653
- 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,005
- Hear me. We're a computer company.
- We can't start late.
- 654
- 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,010
- - Then I have another idea.
- - What?
- 655
- 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,766
- It's deceptive and
- borderline unethical.
- 656
- 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,729
- I'm listening.
- It'll run on the 512.
- 657
- 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,040
- - You tested it?
- - Yeah.
- 658
- 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,086
- Wait.
- 659
- 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,521
- You're gonna demo
- a 128 computer on a 512?
- 660
- 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,680
- Nobody's gonna know.
- 661
- 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,768
- And you think that's
- "borderline" unethical?
- 662
- 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,649
- Name my other choices, please.
- 663
- 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,526
- Please, you have to tell me why it's
- so important for it to say "Hello."
- 664
- 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,446
- Hollywood, they made
- computers scary things.
- 665
- 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,240
- See how this reminds you
- of a friendly face?
- 666
- 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,170
- That the disk slot
- is a goofy grin?
- 667
- 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,770
- It's warm and it's playful,
- and it needs to say "Hello."
- 668
- 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,321
- It needs to say "Hello"
- because it can.
- 669
- 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,010
- We're not committing fraud.
- 670
- 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,323
- The 512 is gonna ship
- in under a year.
- 671
- 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,171
- Will you absolve me of your
- Eastern European disapproval?
- 672
- 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,686
- The computer in 2001
- said "Hello" all the time,
- 673
- 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,489
- and it still scared
- the shit out of me.
- 674
- 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:17,925
- Absolve me.
- 675
- 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,885
- Just for this.
- 676
- 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,331
- And just for now.
- 677
- 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,801
- Ladies and
- gentlemen, please welcome
- 678
- 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,287
- founding board member,
- Mike Markkula.
- 679
- 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,080
- All right. Okay.
- 680
- 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,042
- Go make a dent
- in the universe, Steven.
- 681
- 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,364
- See you in a couple of hours.
- 682
- 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,285
- And I'm going to take us
- through the formal part of the meeting.
- 683
- 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,601
- The legal part, if you will.
- 684
- 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,445
- Thank merciful God.
- The cavalry's shown up.
- 685
- 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,896
- Because I hear you've been
- worse than usual this morning.
- 686
- 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,200
- I didn't think
- that was possible,
- 687
- 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,961
- so I've been dispatched
- as the "Steve Whisperer."
- 688
- 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,407
- This is a '55 Margaux.
- 689
- 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,561
- It's 9:00 in the morning.
- 690
- 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,120
- This is a '55 Margaux.
- 691
- 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,205
- Is it my imagination, or have
- you started to dress like me?
- 692
- 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,610
- It was a bad idea to have Markkula
- open with quarterly reports.
- 693
- 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,776
- Instead we should have just
- dropped water on the audience.
- 694
- 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,486
- Just big 10,000-gallon tanks of cold
- water, dropped from the ceiling.
- 695
- 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,244
- Save Mike some money
- on index cards.
- 696
- 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,566
- Oh, just relax.
- 697
- 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,801
- Why?
- 698
- 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,645
- I don't know. No one's ever
- asked me that question.
- 699
- 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,811
- There you go.
- 700
- 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,251
- You're the only one who sees
- the world the same way I do.
- 701
- 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,482
- No one sees the world
- the same way you do.
- 702
- 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,050
- I'm like Julius Caesar, John.
- 703
- 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,321
- I'm surrounded by enemies.
- 704
- 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,561
- No, you're not.
- 705
- 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:48,846
- The board...
- 706
- 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,843
- Oh, "The board ."
- The board's behind you.
- 707
- 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,410
- Only because you see
- to it they are.
- 708
- 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,856
- Oh, I think it's a good board,
- 709
- 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,456
- but if you want me to
- push them out one by one,
- 710
- 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,925
- we can talk about that.
- 711
- 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,968
- I want you to
- push them out all at once
- 712
- 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,850
- through a window,
- if it's the nearest exit.
- 713
- 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,896
- The look on their faces
- when we showed them the spot.
- 714
- 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,040
- I couldn't see their faces, because they
- were banging their heads on the table.
- 715
- 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,404
- Yesterday, the day after
- it airs once,
- 716
- 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,450
- the publisher of Adweek calls it
- the best commercial of all time.
- 717
- 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,646
- Of all time!
- 718
- 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:15,801
- And it is.
- 719
- 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,056
- And if anyone does one better,
- 720
- 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,651
- it's gonna be Chiat/Day, who
- the board wanted to replace,
- 721
- 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,256
- and it's gonna be Lee Clow, who the
- board thought was out of his mind.
- 722
- 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,681
- Ladies and gentlemen, 1984.
- 723
- 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,527
- We have created,
- for the first time in all history,
- 724
- 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,371
- a garden of pure ideology
- 725
- 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,605
- where each worker may bloom
- secure from the pests
- 726
- 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,570
- of any contradictory
- true thoughts.
- 727
- 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,563
- Our unification of thoughts
- 728
- 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,885
- is more powerful a weapon than
- any fleet or army on Earth.
- 729
- 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,121
- We are one people...
- 730
- 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,004
- Did we use skinheads as extras?
- 731
- 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,456
- A couple of people
- have told me that.
- 732
- 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,481
- Yeah.
- 733
- 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,801
- We paid skinheads? I've got
- skinheads on my payroll?
- 734
- 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,325
- They had a look you wanted.
- 735
- 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,731
- - The skinheads?
- - Yeah.
- 736
- 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,083
- Okay, let's keep
- that to ourselves.
- 737
- 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,561
- We shall prevail!
- 738
- 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,241
- On January 24th,
- 739
- 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,768
- Apple Computer will
- introduce Macintosh.
- 740
- 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,128
- Who else knows?
- Who else knows what?
- 741
- 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,647
- That we paid terrorists
- to be in our TV commercial.
- 742
- 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,404
- John.
- They were wrong about the ad,
- 743
- 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,125
- but they're a good board.
- Good people.
- 744
- 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,736
- Their only problem... Their
- problem is that they're people.
- 745
- 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,000
- People.
- 746
- 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,924
- The very nature of people
- is something to be overcome.
- 747
- 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:33,761
- When I was running Pepsi,
- 748
- 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,003
- we had a lot of success
- focusing on 18-to 55-year-olds
- 749
- 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,969
- who weren't members
- of violent hate groups.
- 750
- 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,162
- I get it. You're not
- surrounded by enemies.
- 751
- 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,444
- We're almost there.
- 752
- 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,251
- I'm back and forth on the Dylan.
- 753
- 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,606
- I might quote a different verse.
- 754
- 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:48,921
- What are the choices?
- 755
- 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,288
- "For the loser now will be later
- to win," which is what we have.
- 756
- 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,851
- Or?
- 757
- 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,287
- "Come mothers and fathers
- throughout the land,
- 758
- 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,200
- "and don't criticize
- what you can't understand.
- 759
- 00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,725
- "Your sons
- and your daughters..."
- 760
- 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,056
- "are beyond your command ."
- 761
- 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,696
- I just lost a hundred bucks
- to Andy Hertzfeld.
- 762
- 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,210
- He said you'd change it
- to that verse.
- 763
- 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,124
- We got 45 seconds. I want to
- use it to ask you a question.
- 764
- 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,282
- Why do people who are adopted
- 765
- 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,681
- feel like they were rejected
- instead of selected?
- 766
- 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,411
- That came out of nowhere.
- 767
- 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,456
- "Your sons and your daughters
- are beyond your command.
- 768
- 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,369
- "Your old road
- is rapidly aging."
- 769
- 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,126
- So go fuck yourself, because
- my name is Steve Jobs,
- 770
- 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,805
- and "the times
- they are a-changing ."
- 771
- 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,930
- I don't feel rejected.
- 772
- 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,923
- - You're sure?
- - Very sure.
- 773
- 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,656
- Because it's not like the baby is
- born and the parents look and say,
- 774
- 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,286
- "Nah, we're not interested
- in this one."
- 775
- 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,010
- On the other hand,
- someone did choose you.
- 776
- 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,484
- It's having no control.
- 777
- 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,656
- You find out
- you were out of the loop
- 778
- 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,445
- when the most crucial events in
- your life were set in motion.
- 779
- 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,683
- As long as you have control.
- 780
- 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,649
- I don't understand people
- who give it up.
- 781
- 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,600
- What inspired Hertzfeld
- to make that bet?
- 782
- 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:06,721
- He was warning me
- 783
- 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,123
- that being your father figure
- could be dangerous.
- 784
- 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,450
- Keep your 100 bucks.
- 785
- 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,656
- I'm sticking with
- the first verse.
- 786
- 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,681
- Good.
- 787
- 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,689
- What the hell does he mean?
- Nothing.
- 788
- 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,481
- I'm proud of you.
- 789
- 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:20,881
- Thank you, boss.
- 790
- 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,368
- It's my pleasure to
- introduce my friend
- 791
- 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,289
- and the CEO of Apple,
- 792
- 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,488
- John Sculley.
- 793
- 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,928
- - John?
- - Yeah?
- 794
- 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,963
- Lisa made a painting on the Mac.
- 795
- 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,889
- The Macintosh, Apple's
- near-mythological home computer,
- 796
- 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,610
- has gotten off to a rocky start
- 797
- 00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:45,324
- in its battle with
- industry titan IBM.
- 798
- 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,164
- With sales originally projected
- 799
- 00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:48,810
- to be 1,000,000 in
- the first quarter,
- 800
- 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,566
- Apple has sold only 35,000 of
- the user-friendly machines.
- 801
- 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,682
- The insistence
- by Steve Jobs that it'd have
- 802
- 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,649
- what's called
- "end-to-end control,"
- 803
- 00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:58,768
- which is a way of saying
- that it's not compatible
- 804
- 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,922
- with most outside
- hardware or software
- 805
- 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,322
- is the Shakespearean flaw in a
- machine that had potential.
- 806
- 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,085
- Apple Computers
- closed two of its factories today
- 807
- 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,889
- in the wake of
- disappointing sales.
- 808
- 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,696
- Do you know how
- many Macs were sold last month?
- 809
- 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:12,006
- 500.
- 810
- 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,004
- In a move that surprised
- some, but not all, on Wall Street,
- 811
- 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,576
- the board of directors
- of Apple Computers
- 812
- 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,002
- voted today to fire
- its co-founder, Steve Jobs.
- 813
- 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,003
- Did he jump, or was he pushed?
- 814
- 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,880
- His ex-boss, Apple CEO John
- Sculley, refused to comment.
- 815
- 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,724
- However,
- in an exclusive interview,
- 816
- 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,010
- Steve Wozniak has slammed the integrity
- of his old friend Steve Jobs.
- 817
- 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,924
- He calls Jobs "an insulting
- and hurtful guy."
- 818
- 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,322
- Jobs is hitting back with
- a new company and a new computer.
- 819
- 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,482
- Apple has a new competitor.
- 820
- 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,484
- Steve Jobs' Black Cube is aimed
- at the education market.
- 821
- 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,560
- Few people have the
- ability to make the world wait,
- 822
- 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,769
- but that is just what Jobs is
- doing with his new company, NeXT.
- 823
- 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,762
- Focus seems kind of sharp.
- 824
- 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:01,966
- On the slide?
- 825
- 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:03,851
- The floor. The pin spot.
- 826
- 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,729
- I think we want a sharp focus.
- 827
- 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,801
- Don't take it personally.
- 828
- 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,400
- Just not a fan of
- the circus aesthetic.
- 829
- 00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:10,320
- All right, let's hold here.
- 830
- 00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:13,246
- We're gonna have to go up
- and refocus the instruments.
- 831
- 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,641
- Just one, the 30 is fine.
- 832
- 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,883
- While we're holding, there are
- well-wishers in the VIP room.
- 833
- 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,371
- And Woz is here.
- 834
- 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,523
- Steve Wozniak. Yes,
- hey, thank you very much.
- 835
- 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,840
- And Andy Hertzfeld.
- 836
- 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,650
- - Andy Hertzfeld.
- - Thank you.
- 837
- 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,004
- John Sculley is here, too.
- 838
- 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,331
- It's nice that he's here.
- 839
- 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,522
- Really? I don't think
- it's very nice at all.
- 840
- 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,081
- You have to see them.
- They wanna pay their respects.
- 841
- 00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:40,369
- If they were respectful, we'd
- all still be at Apple right now.
- 842
- 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,567
- Look...
- 843
- 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,616
- If they really wished me well,
- they'd keep it to themselves.
- 844
- 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,976
- Can I tell you something? I don't
- think they do wish me well.
- 845
- 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,446
- But I'm all right with that.
- I'm over Apple.
- 846
- 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,329
- I got over the Mac,
- and Woz and Sculley,
- 847
- 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,847
- the same way you get over
- your high-school sweetheart.
- 848
- 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,121
- Build a new one.
- 849
- 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,407
- - Can I tell you something?
- - Yes.
- 850
- 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,403
- You said you wouldn't
- compete with them,
- 851
- 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,723
- but you designed a computer
- specifically for the education market,
- 852
- 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,888
- which they putatively own.
- 853
- 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,731
- So, I think it's cool
- they're here.
- 854
- 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,802
- They're suing me.
- 855
- 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,405
- Still.
- 856
- 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,209
- It was nice they came.
- 857
- 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,202
- They're not being magnanimous.
- 858
- 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,080
- They want it to look
- like an amicable divorce.
- 859
- 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,726
- History doesn't remember Joe
- DiMaggio kindly for dumping Marilyn.
- 860
- 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,801
- Steve.
- 861
- 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,286
- What's your problem?
- 862
- 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,411
- I don't know, but I'm sure
- it can be traced back to you.
- 863
- 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,525
- You know, I'm the one who has
- to explain you to people.
- 864
- 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,285
- $100,000 to Paul Rand
- for a corporate logo,
- 865
- 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,761
- when we didn't even know
- what our company made.
- 866
- 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,402
- A $650,000 mold for the Cube
- 867
- 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,281
- because God forbid the angles be
- 90.1 instead of 90.
- 868
- 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,204
- I forbid the angles to
- be 90.1 instead of 90.
- 869
- 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,120
- That box could be on display
- at the Guggenheim.
- 870
- 00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:53,641
- Don't give them reason
- to say to the press
- 871
- 00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:55,802
- you have a chip
- on your shoulder.
- 872
- 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,484
- Will you do that for me?
- 873
- 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,050
- I don't have a chip
- on my shoulder.
- 874
- 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,645
- Okay, okay.
- 875
- 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:04,520
- But don't give them
- a reason to say you do.
- 876
- 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,090
- I don't.
- 877
- 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,200
- That's the right attitude.
- 878
- 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,406
- That's not an attitude.
- 879
- 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,376
- They're gonna call me back in a
- minute to look at the light.
- 880
- 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,845
- Get one out of the way.
- 881
- 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,046
- Fine!
- 882
- 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,844
- - Yeah?
- - Yeah.
- 883
- 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,281
- One more thing.
- 884
- 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,441
- Sure.
- 885
- 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,682
- No questions from
- the press after.
- 886
- 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,161
- No? Why?
- 887
- 00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:24,890
- Until I have better answers,
- 888
- 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,326
- no press avail.
- 889
- 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,847
- If somebody asks where I am, you
- just saw me, and I'll be right back.
- 890
- 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,201
- Okay.
- 891
- 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,721
- Who do you want first?
- 892
- 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,451
- Bring me the face
- of Steve Wozniak.
- 893
- 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,440
- Hang on.
- 894
- 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,967
- I thought you went to school.
- Hang on.
- 895
- 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,776
- You were supposed to go to school
- an hour ago. I thought you left.
- 896
- 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,087
- I didn't wake up my mom
- on time this morning.
- 897
- 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,844
- It's happened before, too.
- 898
- 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,009
- I wake up with the alarm, and then
- I get dressed and eat breakfast,
- 899
- 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,090
- but sometimes I forget to see
- what time it is after that.
- 900
- 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,576
- Why doesn't your mom just
- set her own alarm clock?
- 901
- 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:11,601
- It's one of my chores.
- 902
- 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,451
- I don't understand what that has
- to do with why you're still...
- 903
- 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,121
- Where's your mother?
- 904
- 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,804
- She went to find a payphone.
- 905
- 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,010
- An hour ago, she said...
- 906
- 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,845
- You don't have to
- raise your hand.
- 907
- 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:22,976
- You said it was off by a little.
- 908
- 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,240
- It is.
- 909
- 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,401
- I just measured it.
- 910
- 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,081
- Joanna...
- 911
- 00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:28,571
- Exactly a foot
- on all four sides.
- 912
- 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,684
- There are six sides. But you're
- not supposed be here right now.
- 913
- 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,483
- We know if four of the sides
- are equal to each other,
- 914
- 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,960
- the other two must be
- equal as well.
- 915
- 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,608
- The top, bottom, right, and left
- 916
- 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,616
- are about a millimeter shorter
- than the front and back.
- 917
- 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,210
- They're not, I measured them.
- 918
- 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,728
- Lisa, I'm kind of
- an expert in design.
- 919
- 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,640
- And that's a 20-cent ruler. You think
- there's a chance it could be off?
- 920
- 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,206
- If I had another ruler,
- I would measure this ruler,
- 921
- 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,566
- but I really doubt it's off.
- 922
- 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,806
- When your mother comes back,
- 923
- 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,360
- you have to go to school.
- Because it's a ruler!
- 924
- 00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:59,726
- Why is it off?
- 925
- 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,444
- Did you hear what I just said?
- Yes.
- 926
- 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,016
- Because sometimes
- it seems like you just
- 927
- 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,883
- keep saying what you want
- without listening.
- 928
- 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,731
- I'm listening.
- 929
- 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,120
- Is there something you need?
- 930
- 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:16,961
- No.
- 931
- 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,891
- Why isn't it a perfect cube?
- 932
- 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,208
- You've asked me before.
- I forget what it is.
- 933
- 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,721
- It's an optical anomaly.
- 934
- 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,646
- To the human eye, a perfect
- cube doesn't look like a cube,
- 935
- 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,456
- so we made it roughly a millimeter
- shorter than a foot on two sides.
- 936
- 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,766
- What's an anomaly?
- 937
- 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,451
- You've asked me
- that before, too.
- 938
- 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,050
- I don't know why
- you keep doing that.
- 939
- 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,281
- It's an exception. Something
- that doesn't fit a pattern.
- 940
- 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,164
- You have to go to school.
- Come in!
- 941
- 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,522
- I think you two have met.
- 942
- 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,601
- Hello, old friend.
- 943
- 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:54,841
- - You look well.
- - So do you.
- 944
- 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,201
- So do you.
- 945
- 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,887
- And they're telling me George is
- ready for you to look at the focus.
- 946
- 00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:01,246
- Take a walk with me.
- 947
- 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,084
- - Is this Lisa?
- - Yeah.
- 948
- 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,730
- - This can't be Lisa.
- - It is.
- 949
- 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,848
- Lisa's this big. They get taller.
- Come on.
- 950
- 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,336
- - Do you remember me?
- - She doesn't.
- 951
- 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,601
- I'm your dad's friend,
- Steve Wozniak.
- 952
- 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,921
- I apologize,
- I don't remember you.
- 953
- 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,327
- You're very polite.
- 954
- 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,011
- - Woz?
- - Yeah.
- 955
- 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,616
- Chrisann's at a payphone.
- Would you find her?
- 956
- 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,529
- Yeah.
- 957
- 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:22,971
- - Good turnout.
- - Great turnout.
- 958
- 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,167
- Yeah.
- 959
- 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:27,050
- "Insanely great."
- Insanely great.
- 960
- 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,536
- You know, this is the first time we
- haven't played for the same team.
- 961
- 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,961
- It's like you're releasing
- your first solo album.
- 962
- 00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:34,936
- I appreciate your
- inviting me to the launch.
- 963
- 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,371
- I just want to wipe
- the slate clean.
- 964
- 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,727
- That's exactly what I want.
- That's why I came backstage.
- 965
- 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,690
- I want you to know
- I'll be out there with you.
- 966
- 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,967
- Any chance I can get you to
- go out there instead of me?
- 967
- 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:47,481
- - I love you, Steve.
- - I love you, too, Woz.
- 968
- 00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:51,528
- You know, some
- things were said. They were.
- 969
- 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,921
- They were said in public.
- They were published.
- 970
- 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,240
- Were you pressured to do it?
- 971
- 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,651
- Was I what?
- 972
- 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,482
- Check it out.
- 973
- 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,370
- It's the orchestra pit
- for the San Francisco Opera.
- 974
- 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,401
- Was I pressured to do it?
- 975
- 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,171
- I once met Seiji Ozawa
- at Tanglewood.
- 976
- 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,004
- A thunderous conductor.
- 977
- 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,808
- Godly artfulness and nuance.
- 978
- 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,361
- And I asked him what exactly a
- conductor does that a metronome can't.
- 979
- 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,601
- Surprisingly, he...
- 980
- 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,320
- He didn't beat
- the living shit out of you?
- 981
- 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:21,805
- That's right. No, he said,
- 982
- 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,770
- "The musicians play
- their instruments.
- 983
- 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,524
- "I play the orchestra."
- 984
- 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,121
- That feels like something that sounds
- good, but doesn't mean anything.
- 985
- 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,129
- Markkula, Sculley. They ask you
- to slag me off in the press?
- 986
- 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,090
- I had reason to be angry.
- 987
- 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:37,480
- - Did they?
- - Absolutely not.
- 988
- 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:38,680
- But they asked you to talk.
- 989
- 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,128
- Apple was under siege,
- you'd just left the company.
- 990
- 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,531
- Someone had to talk
- to the press.
- 991
- 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,961
- I'm right here, Woz.
- The company left me.
- 992
- 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,801
- I begged you.
- I begged you.
- 993
- 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,121
- The Apple II accounted
- for 70% of the revenue.
- 994
- 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:53,811
- What did you think
- was gonna happen?
- 995
- 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,441
- You didn't care enough about
- the Apple II or the Lisa.
- 996
- 00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:58,851
- Let's be really clear.
- 997
- 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,207
- I didn't care at all about
- the Apple II or the Lisa.
- 998
- 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,923
- I wasn't pressured to do it.
- 999
- 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:06,526
- What I said to the press
- 1000
- 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,400
- was an honest, if tempered,
- reflection of what I believed.
- 1001
- 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,086
- - Woz.
- - Yeah?
- 1002
- 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:14,840
- What the fuck is on your wrist?
- 1003
- 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,123
- You wanna know?
- I literally can't wait.
- 1004
- 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,483
- Everyone's gonna be
- wearing these in 10 years.
- 1005
- 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,722
- It's a Nixie Watch,
- made using Nixie tubes.
- 1006
- 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,723
- This is actually
- 40-year-old technology.
- 1007
- 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,164
- Cold-cathode tubes. They're
- operating at 140 volts.
- 1008
- 00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:31,288
- I tilt my wrist 45 degrees,
- it's right there.
- 1009
- 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,850
- Hours, minutes, and seconds.
- 1010
- 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,206
- The way our minds work.
- 1011
- 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,850
- Look at that.
- 1012
- 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:36,921
- Do me a favor.
- 1013
- 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,576
- Set the watch ahead like you're on a
- plane and just changed time zones.
- 1014
- 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,284
- Not a problem.
- 1015
- 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:42,961
- Unscrew that,
- 1016
- 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,481
- just hit the button.
- 1017
- 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:46,801
- Excuse me, flight attendant,
- 1018
- 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,451
- the man next to me would appear
- to be detonating a bomb.
- 1019
- 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,284
- You think this looks
- like a bomb.
- 1020
- 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,727
- Even right now,
- I'm not 100% sure it isn't.
- 1021
- 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:57,936
- I think maybe once people
- get used to it...
- 1022
- 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,041
- No.
- 1023
- 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:05,566
- I was angry.
- 1024
- 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,000
- You were saying things
- about the Apple II,
- 1025
- 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,640
- and the way you were
- treating the team...
- 1026
- 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,045
- Woz.
- 1027
- 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,122
- You get a free pass for life.
- 1028
- 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,326
- I got to get back onstage.
- 1029
- 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,568
- We got, like, two minutes
- of rehearsal time left.
- 1030
- 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,644
- Do you understand how
- condescending that just was?
- 1031
- 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,001
- Maybe you don't.
- 1032
- 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,376
- I don't want to see you
- get dragged off
- 1033
- 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,616
- an airplane in
- plastic handcuffs.
- 1034
- 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,051
- I get a free pass
- for life from you?
- 1035
- 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,284
- You give out the passes?
- 1036
- 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,407
- You give them to me?
- 1037
- 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:31,896
- You're gonna have a stroke,
- little buddy.
- 1038
- 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,049
- What did you do?
- 1039
- 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:38,925
- Why has Lisa not heard of me?
- 1040
- 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,128
- Shit, man, how many
- fourth-graders have heard of you?
- 1041
- 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,966
- You can't write code.
- 1042
- 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,931
- You're not an engineer.
- You're not a designer.
- 1043
- 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,241
- You can't put
- a hammer to a nail.
- 1044
- 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,731
- I built the circuit board.
- 1045
- 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,643
- The graphical
- interface was stolen
- 1046
- 00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:53,721
- from Xerox PARC.
- 1047
- 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,056
- Jef Raskin was the leader
- of the Mac team
- 1048
- 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,923
- before you threw him off
- his own project.
- 1049
- 00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,120
- Everything! Someone else
- designed the box.
- 1050
- 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,688
- So, how come 10 times in a day I
- read "Steve Jobs is a genius"?
- 1051
- 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,684
- What do you do?
- 1052
- 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,007
- I play the orchestra.
- 1053
- 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,531
- And you're a good musician.
- 1054
- 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,523
- You sit right there. You're
- the best in your row.
- 1055
- 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,809
- I came here to clear the air!
- 1056
- 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,096
- Do you know why I came here?
- 1057
- 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,281
- Didn't you just answer that?
- 1058
- 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,204
- I came here because
- you're gonna get killed.
- 1059
- 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,004
- Your computer's gonna fail.
- 1060
- 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,481
- You had a college and
- university advisory board
- 1061
- 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,644
- telling you they need a powerful
- workstation for $2,000 to $3,000.
- 1062
- 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,643
- You've priced NeXT at $6,500.
- 1063
- 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,406
- And that doesn't include the
- optional $3,000 hard drive,
- 1064
- 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,887
- which people will discover
- isn't optional.
- 1065
- 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,089
- Because the optical disk
- is too weak to do anything.
- 1066
- 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,844
- And the $2,500 laser printer
- 1067
- 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,281
- brings the total to $12,000.
- 1068
- 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,521
- And, in the entire world,
- 1069
- 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,241
- you are the only person who cares
- that it's housed in a perfect cube.
- 1070
- 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,405
- You're gonna get killed.
- 1071
- 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,720
- And I came here to stand next
- to you while that happens
- 1072
- 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,848
- because that's what friends do.
- 1073
- 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,288
- That's what men do.
- I don't need your "pass."
- 1074
- 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,122
- We go back, so don't talk to
- me like I'm other people.
- 1075
- 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,680
- I'm the only one that knows
- 1076
- 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,121
- that this guy here
- is someone you invented.
- 1077
- 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:13,244
- I'm standing by you because that
- perfect cube, that does nothing,
- 1078
- 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,926
- is about to be
- the single biggest failure
- 1079
- 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,368
- in the history of
- personal computing.
- 1080
- 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,563
- Tell me something else
- I don't know.
- 1081
- 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,041
- Back onstage?
- 1082
- 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,169
- We're out of time. They've got to
- mop the stage and open the house.
- 1083
- 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,602
- If it crashes,
- it crashes, right?
- 1084
- 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,405
- You'll make a joke.
- 1085
- 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,209
- I'll make a joke.
- 1086
- 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,601
- If it crashes, it crashes.
- 1087
- 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,241
- It's a good slogan.
- "NeXT. If it crashes, it crashes."
- 1088
- 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,442
- I'm not just talking
- about the demo, Steve.
- 1089
- 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,807
- If it tanks,
- we don't swallow cyanide.
- 1090
- 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,530
- We go back to the drawing board.
- 1091
- 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,806
- No more drawing boards.
- 1092
- 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,176
- Invent the Edsel twice, you don't
- get any more drawing boards.
- 1093
- 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,884
- Tell me what the plan is.
- 1094
- 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,042
- You have to tell me the plan,
- because I don't know.
- 1095
- 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,124
- You're walking around like
- you've got "can't lose" cards.
- 1096
- 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,487
- The plan will reveal itself to
- you when you're ready to see it.
- 1097
- 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,803
- Will I have to drop acid?
- 1098
- 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:12,885
- Couldn't hurt.
- 1099
- 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,564
- Is there a plan?
- 1100
- 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,244
- Have I ever let you down?
- 1101
- 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,810
- Every single goddamn time.
- 1102
- 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,007
- Then I'm due.
- 1103
- 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,406
- Is there?
- 1104
- 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,005
- Joanna, there's a plan.
- 1105
- 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,283
- I just don't wanna put you in a
- position where you're lying to people.
- 1106
- 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,766
- Start 15 minutes late
- so Avie can recompile
- 1107
- 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,126
- and give us a fighting chance.
- 1108
- 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,896
- Jesus Christ! How many times
- are we gonna have this...
- 1109
- 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,280
- We're not starting late ever!
- Fine!
- 1110
- 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,324
- We're not ever starting late!
- "ever starting late."
- 1111
- 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,081
- But where do you come down
- on starting late?
- 1112
- 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,166
- Lisa's been doing this thing
- 1113
- 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,489
- where she asks me about stuff
- I've already told her.
- 1114
- 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,609
- She asks me questions, and I know
- she already knows the answers.
- 1115
- 00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:58,681
- What's that about?
- 1116
- 00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:01,000
- Kids do that when they're scared
- 1117
- 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,849
- one of their parents
- is in a bad mood.
- 1118
- 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,282
- They try to get you talking
- about something you like.
- 1119
- 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:07,771
- It's very common
- and can be treated
- 1120
- 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,202
- by talking to her
- about things she likes.
- 1121
- 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,047
- Do you have any experience
- or training in this field?
- 1122
- 00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:17,241
- No.
- 1123
- 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,564
- Tell them to open the house.
- 1124
- 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:27,921
- Where's Lisa?
- 1125
- 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:29,561
- She's around.
- 1126
- 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:32,561
- What does that mean?
- 1127
- 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,803
- She's running
- around the building.
- 1128
- 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,451
- An hour ago, you said you
- were taking her to school.
- 1129
- 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:38,806
- She begged me to let her stay.
- 1130
- 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,164
- There are fathers
- who would so love...
- 1131
- 00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:44,403
- It is wrong, okay? It is morally
- wrong, it's parentally wrong.
- 1132
- 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,324
- It is wrong for you to use Lisa as
- a way of getting money from me.
- 1133
- 00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:50,096
- She'll know,
- if she doesn't already,
- 1134
- 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:51,849
- that that is your
- primary use for her.
- 1135
- 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,496
- And she will hate you
- for the rest of your life.
- 1136
- 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:54,856
- She will see,
- if she doesn't already,
- 1137
- 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,326
- that her mother is a woman who stands
- up to men.
- 1138
- 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,004
- By living off of them.
- 1139
- 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,890
- By not letting myself be
- imprisoned and degraded by them.
- 1140
- 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,448
- Imprisoned?
- I can't get rid of you.
- 1141
- 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,161
- I need a doctor,
- and I need a dentist.
- 1142
- 00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:13,210
- I dropped out of college after a
- semester, but, okay, let's have a look.
- 1143
- 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,120
- You will support your
- daughter and her mother.
- 1144
- 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,161
- Did you pay someone $1,500
- to bless your house?
- 1145
- 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,806
- Did you hear what I said?
- Did you?
- 1146
- 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,609
- I don't remember
- how much it was, Steve.
- 1147
- 00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:23,881
- It was $1,500.
- 1148
- 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,200
- They don't do it for free.
- 1149
- 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,089
- - They don't.
- - They charge $1,500.
- 1150
- 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,161
- How I spend...
- 1151
- 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:29,936
- Fuck. You know what?
- I'm not even...
- 1152
- 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,760
- Were you about to say, "How I spend
- my money is none of your business"?
- 1153
- 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,723
- I have a sinus infection, and
- I need to see a dentist, too.
- 1154
- 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,536
- So you can see how your "blessing"
- budget could have been better spent.
- 1155
- 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,244
- Like on a perfect cube?
- 1156
- 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,848
- - Look at me, Chrisann.
- - What?
- 1157
- 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,007
- You know who I am, right?
- 1158
- 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,081
- Yes.
- 1159
- 00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:49,480
- And you know I know people.
- 1160
- 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,562
- What are you talking about?
- Look at me.
- 1161
- 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,325
- And you know the people I
- know, they know people.
- 1162
- 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:55,887
- What is this?
- 1163
- 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,088
- If I ever hear again
- that you've thrown
- 1164
- 00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,440
- a cereal bowl at Lisa's head...
- 1165
- 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,687
- What? my private
- line's gonna ring.
- 1166
- 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,650
- And a voice on the other end
- is gonna say, "We're all set."
- 1167
- 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,842
- That's how I'll learn that you're dead.
- Are you...
- 1168
- 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,970
- I threw the bowl on the floor.
- 1169
- 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,769
- I didn't throw it at her head.
- 1170
- 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,531
- She wasn't even in the room!
- 1171
- 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:13,886
- She was nowhere...
- 1172
- 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,325
- I threw the bowl on the floor.
- 1173
- 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,566
- She's a little girl.
- You're scaring her.
- 1174
- 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,120
- I'm a grown man.
- You're scaring me.
- 1175
- 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,202
- Taking out the garbage
- is a chore.
- 1176
- 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,362
- Clearing the table is a chore.
- 1177
- 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,046
- Waking you up in the morning
- is just fucking creepy.
- 1178
- 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,649
- Please teach me more
- about being a parent.
- 1179
- 00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:31,801
- We're all done here.
- 1180
- 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,360
- It means so much coming from
- someone who won't admit he is one.
- 1181
- 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,520
- Stop screaming at Lisa.
- I give her responsibilities!
- 1182
- 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,682
- Got it. And one day she's
- gonna thank me for it!
- 1183
- 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,410
- Probably in your sleep.
- Fuck off!
- 1184
- 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:41,726
- Okay.
- 1185
- 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,411
- I never... I never
- threw anything at her head!
- 1186
- 00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:45,960
- Steve...
- 1187
- 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,524
- I never would.
- 1188
- 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,689
- Things don't become so
- because you say so.
- 1189
- 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,800
- There'll be more money in your
- account by the end of business.
- 1190
- 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:08,367
- Were you being nice?
- 1191
- 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:09,521
- Oh, yeah.
- 1192
- 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:16,561
- Andy's next.
- 1193
- 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,284
- Hertzfeld or Cunningham?
- 1194
- 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,481
- Hertzfeld.
- 1195
- 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,564
- He's playing with Avie Tevanian
- on the computer backstage.
- 1196
- 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,731
- Ladies and gentlemen,
- the house is now open.
- 1197
- 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,683
- Playing in front
- of thousands of people.
- 1198
- 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:47,761
- Steve!
- 1199
- 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,605
- Can he do it later, Joel?
- We go in eight minutes.
- 1200
- 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,656
- Can I just get a quick reaction
- to the press this morning?
- 1201
- 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,569
- What about it? The size
- of it, the volume.
- 1202
- 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:56,840
- I'll tell you on background...
- 1203
- 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,016
- I was hoping for
- a quote from Steve.
- 1204
- 00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,405
- I'll tell you on background
- 1205
- 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,847
- that I've never seen anything
- like it in the tech industry.
- 1206
- 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,251
- I called The Wall Street Journal
- 1207
- 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:04,736
- to take out
- a full-page ad for today,
- 1208
- 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,127
- and do you know what
- their sales guy said?
- 1209
- 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,524
- "Why bother? It'd be like notifying
- Macy's that tomorrow is Christmas."
- 1210
- 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,125
- You saw the Stewart Alsop
- newsletter?
- 1211
- 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,201
- I did.
- 1212
- 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,056
- I'm sorry, Joanna, I need to
- get Steve on the record.
- 1213
- 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:20,369
- The headline was, "Dear NeXT,
- when can I get my machine?"
- 1214
- 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:21,601
- When can he?
- 1215
- 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,809
- We'll announce the ship date
- in the next eight to 10 weeks.
- 1216
- 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,296
- Alsop's not talking
- about the ship date.
- 1217
- 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,402
- He wants to know when he
- can get one to play with.
- 1218
- 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,721
- We have a lot of
- respect for Stewart Alsop,
- 1219
- 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,480
- and we want to get
- a machine into his hands
- 1220
- 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,249
- so he can tell
- his subscribers about it.
- 1221
- 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,130
- - When will that be?
- - Very soon.
- 1222
- 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,886
- A couple of days?
- A week? Off the record.
- 1223
- 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,127
- - Off the record?
- - Completely.
- 1224
- 00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:46,241
- We think...
- 1225
- 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,600
- He'll get it when it's finished.
- 1226
- 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:49,970
- It's not finished?
- 1227
- 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,411
- It's almost finished.
- 1228
- 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,296
- I've been watching you rehearse
- the demo for three weeks.
- 1229
- 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,320
- Yeah.
- 1230
- 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,771
- - What's left?
- - A little thing.
- 1231
- 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,604
- - What?
- - I think that's...
- 1232
- 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,650
- We're off the record, and Joel's always
- been good at understanding nuance.
- 1233
- 00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:02,961
- What's left to finish?
- 1234
- 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,567
- I guess, in layman's terms, you'd
- have to say we don't have an OS.
- 1235
- 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,002
- - An operating system?
- - Yeah.
- 1236
- 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:14,521
- What do you mean?
- 1237
- 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,922
- Well, the OS is
- what runs the computer.
- 1238
- 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,088
- In fact, it sort of
- is the computer.
- 1239
- 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,401
- How has it been running? How's
- it gonna run this morning?
- 1240
- 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,091
- What do you mean,
- you don't have an OS?
- 1241
- 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,764
- It's like this.
- 1242
- 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,683
- Avie Tevanian is our
- Chief Software Designer,
- 1243
- 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,091
- and he wrote a demo program.
- 1244
- 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,486
- It's like we built a great car,
- 1245
- 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:31,856
- but we haven't built the engine.
- 1246
- 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,929
- So we put a golf-cart battery in there
- to make it go for a little bit.
- 1247
- 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,850
- All this computer knows how to do
- right now is demonstrate itself.
- 1248
- 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,296
- You're telling me the only thing
- you've built is a black cube?
- 1249
- 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,322
- Yes. Yeah.
- 1250
- 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,416
- But isn't it the coolest
- black cube you've ever seen?
- 1251
- 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,044
- - Is this...
- - We're off the record.
- 1252
- 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,560
- Is this a strategy or a problem
- , because if it's a problem...
- 1253
- 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,410
- Do not share proprietary
- knowledge with that man.
- 1254
- 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,802
- It's not a problem.
- 1255
- 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,564
- I wouldn't understand it anyway.
- 1256
- 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,041
- I don't understand it either,
- and my name's on the patents.
- 1257
- 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:00,121
- It's got email.
- 1258
- 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,807
- Well, email's not just
- for tech specialists anymore.
- 1259
- 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,120
- Well, it is, but it won't be.
- 1260
- 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,885
- And I assume an email sent
- on a NeXT computer
- 1261
- 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,281
- can only be received
- by a NeXT computer?
- 1262
- 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,647
- Closed, end-to-end.
- 1263
- 00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:12,736
- The new trash can is wrong.
- 1264
- 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,696
- I wanna tell you I appreciate
- all the hours you put into it,
- 1265
- 00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:17,121
- but I can't because
- of how terrible it is.
- 1266
- 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,845
- Go back to the other one.
- 1267
- 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,281
- And why are we still giving
- three options on the clock?
- 1268
- 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:23,760
- How many options
- do you wanna give?
- 1269
- 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,122
- Two. "Buy it" or "Don't."
- 1270
- 00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:28,368
- Can I talk to you for a second?
- Abso-fruitly.
- 1271
- 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:29,681
- Uh, look, man,
- 1272
- 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,250
- Avie's been recompiling,
- but he says
- 1273
- 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,163
- there may be some
- glitches this morning.
- 1274
- 00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:34,844
- If all there are,
- are some glitches,
- 1275
- 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,605
- it'll be a triumph of
- miraculous magnitude.
- 1276
- 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,842
- Why are you
- translating for Avie?
- 1277
- 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,763
- I didn't want him
- to find out the hard way
- 1278
- 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,763
- your position on
- glitches in a demo,
- 1279
- 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,763
- but it sounds like
- you've mellowed.
- 1280
- 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,810
- I've been growing, Andy. I've
- been learning to love myself.
- 1281
- 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,526
- Mmm, I wouldn't have ever
- dreamed that was a problem.
- 1282
- 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,365
- Fantastic burn.
- You need to go to your seat.
- 1283
- 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,364
- How about Lisa, getting into
- a school for gifted kids?
- 1284
- 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,442
- Yeah, she was tested,
- and it turns out she can fly.
- 1285
- 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:00,885
- But, seriously, it's a big deal.
- 1286
- 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,731
- I know it's a big deal. That's why
- I built the school a building.
- 1287
- 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,687
- Well, I'm sure
- that's not why she got in.
- 1288
- 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,450
- Really?
- 1289
- 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,841
- Can I show you something
- funny from Macworld?
- 1290
- 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,536
- I can't think of anything
- I have to do right now.
- 1291
- 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,289
- It'll make you feel good.
- 1292
- 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:19,600
- Joanna! Look at this!
- 1293
- 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,603
- Oh, Andy, he's only got
- a couple of minutes.
- 1294
- 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,604
- It's Guy Kawasaki writing in Macworld.
- You're gonna like this.
- 1295
- 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,205
- Well, can we all enjoy it later?
- 1296
- 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:31,042
- He wrote a parody press release about
- Apple buying NeXT for your OS.
- 1297
- 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,044
- He imagines a near future,
- where Apple needs your OS
- 1298
- 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,687
- and has to buy NeXT,
- and you come back as CEO.
- 1299
- 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,806
- He has Gates saying, "There would
- now be more innovations from Jobs
- 1300
- 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,530
- "that Microsoft could copy."
- 1301
- 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,724
- You can read it later.
- 1302
- 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,763
- Thanks.
- 1303
- 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,411
- She would've gotten in without
- you donating a building.
- 1304
- 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,684
- Still, it's something to
- talk about in the interview.
- 1305
- 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,125
- All right. Good luck.
- 1306
- 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:02,681
- Thanks.
- 1307
- 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,008
- Give that to me. I'll
- throw it out for you.
- 1308
- 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,486
- I'm gonna hang on to it.
- 1309
- 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,091
- What?
- 1310
- 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:13,361
- What?
- 1311
- 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:15,607
- You ready for Sculley?
- 1312
- 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,725
- Excuse me! Lisa!
- 1313
- 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,041
- You can't shout!
- 1314
- 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:30,681
- Lisa?
- 1315
- 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,251
- You have to go.
- 1316
- 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,843
- It's dangerous up here. That's
- why I make other people do it.
- 1317
- 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,923
- Who are you hiding from,
- me or your mom?
- 1318
- 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,524
- I'm not hiding.
- 1319
- 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:56,401
- Let's go.
- 1320
- 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,085
- What were you listening to?
- 1321
- 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,602
- I'm listening to two
- versions of the same song.
- 1322
- 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:12,936
- And then, when I get to the end,
- 1323
- 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,281
- I rewind to listen
- to them again.
- 1324
- 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,648
- It's the same song, but the
- versions are different.
- 1325
- 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,209
- - What's the song?
- - Okay.
- 1326
- 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,284
- So, it's a really old song, and
- it's called Both Sides, Now.
- 1327
- 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:26,890
- "Both Sides, Now"?
- 1328
- 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,689
- Yeah.
- 1329
- 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,808
- What's it about?
- 1330
- 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:35,124
- It's about... There are three verses.
- Clouds, love, and life.
- 1331
- 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:39,802
- And the person singing is singing
- that they used to think of...
- 1332
- 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,689
- That they used to think about...
- 1333
- 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,444
- Clouds, love, and life?
- 1334
- 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:47,844
- Right. One way, yeah, but now they
- look at them another way, and they...
- 1335
- 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,405
- They've come to
- the conclusion that
- 1336
- 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,404
- they really don't know clouds,
- love, or life at all.
- 1337
- 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,326
- Those are the exact words.
- 1338
- 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:57,845
- Yeah, Joni Mitchell,
- 1339
- 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,686
- 'cause it's not a really old song,
- unless I'm a really old guy.
- 1340
- 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,411
- You have to go to school now.
- 1341
- 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,290
- Do you want me to tell you the
- differences between the two versions?
- 1342
- 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,089
- Right now.
- 1343
- 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,403
- The first version is the kind of
- thing that you would call girlish.
- 1344
- 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,656
- I didn't mean I want to know
- the difference right now.
- 1345
- 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,126
- I meant you have to
- go to school right now.
- 1346
- 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:19,844
- I can stay and watch.
- 1347
- 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,366
- You are truant.
- You're committing a crime.
- 1348
- 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,761
- I'm not gonna miss
- anything important.
- 1349
- 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,251
- How do you know?
- 1350
- 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:27,526
- I read ahead.
- 1351
- 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,925
- The Pilgrims make it
- to the New World.
- 1352
- 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,809
- Then, the Declaration
- of Independence.
- 1353
- 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,684
- Yeah, you skipped
- a couple of centuries.
- 1354
- 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:35,927
- Steve?
- 1355
- 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:37,651
- Chrisann's out there.
- 1356
- 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,245
- Let's go!
- 1357
- 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,011
- Can I make my case for staying?
- 1358
- 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:49,367
- Nope.
- 1359
- 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:09,881
- She was with me.
- 1360
- 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,640
- Come on. Your dad
- doesn't want us to stay.
- 1361
- 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,809
- That's not true. That's not...
- 1362
- 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,330
- You have to be
- in school, is all.
- 1363
- 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:18,685
- I'm committing
- a crime right now,
- 1364
- 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,802
- and I don't
- wanna get in trouble.
- 1365
- 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,405
- You're not in trouble.
- I was kidding.
- 1366
- 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:24,891
- Okay.
- 1367
- 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,647
- Hey. What was
- the second version?
- 1368
- 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,400
- You said the first version was girlish,
- what was the second version?
- 1369
- 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:33,805
- I can't really
- think of the word.
- 1370
- 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:35,576
- Okay. Well,
- have a good day at school.
- 1371
- 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:36,601
- "Regretful."
- 1372
- 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,041
- What?
- 1373
- 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,320
- Like, wishing you could go
- back and do things different.
- 1374
- 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,411
- You're too young
- to be regretful.
- 1375
- 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:44,769
- Not me.
- 1376
- 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,569
- The person singing the song.
- 1377
- 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,484
- Got it. "Regretful."
- That makes sense because...
- 1378
- 01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:56,845
- I wanna live with you.
- 1379
- 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:11,411
- Six minutes.
- 1380
- 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,967
- - You want to see Sculley?
- - No.
- 1381
- 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,965
- You know all those times
- I told you, you needed security?
- 1382
- 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:27,641
- Here's why.
- 1383
- 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,531
- I don't know how it is I've
- gotten older and you haven't.
- 1384
- 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,640
- Some deal with the devil
- I was never offered.
- 1385
- 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,851
- So, you know what I've been
- thinking for the last four years?
- 1386
- 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,376
- As it turns out, John, I've never
- known what you were thinking.
- 1387
- 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,687
- No newborn baby has control.
- 1388
- 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,089
- Do you know what
- I'm talking about?
- 1389
- 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,288
- In '84, before the Mac launch.
- You said...
- 1390
- 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:54,361
- Yeah.
- 1391
- 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,881
- You said that being adopted
- meant you didn't have control.
- 1392
- 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,240
- We're starting
- in a minute, so...
- 1393
- 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,408
- Why do people think I fired you?
- 1394
- 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,608
- It's fine, John.
- It's all behind us.
- 1395
- 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:07,441
- Is it?
- 1396
- 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:08,760
- Hmm?
- 1397
- 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,127
- Don't play stupid.
- You can't pull it off.
- 1398
- 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,490
- You came here to ask me why
- people think you fired me?
- 1399
- 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,483
- Why do people think I fired you?
- 1400
- 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,321
- Just confirm
- something for me, okay?
- 1401
- 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,090
- You liked the ad.
- 1402
- 01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,481
- Right? The commercial,
- 1984. You liked it.
- 1403
- 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,330
- When are you
- gonna get furniture?
- 1404
- 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:30,965
- It's not an easy process.
- 1405
- 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,448
- It is. You buy a
- couch, take it from there.
- 1406
- 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:34,976
- I'd be really surprised
- if you came here
- 1407
- 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,490
- to talk about
- interior decorating.
- 1408
- 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:37,766
- I liked the ad very much.
- 1409
- 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,080
- - You did?
- - You know I did.
- 1410
- 01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,242
- You're a lying son of a
- bitch who tried to kill it.
- 1411
- 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:42,964
- It's time to take
- a hard look at the Mac.
- 1412
- 01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:44,121
- It's past time.
- 1413
- 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:45,691
- It's overpriced.
- 1414
- 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:50,165
- We need to drop it to $1,995. We
- need to double the marketing budget,
- 1415
- 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,483
- put more bodies on an internal hard
- drive and invest in FileServer.
- 1416
- 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,336
- Where the hell did you get the
- idea that I tried to kill...
- 1417
- 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:56,805
- - Lee Clow.
- - Lee's wrong.
- 1418
- 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,484
- - He's lying?
- - He's mistaken.
- 1419
- 01:02:58,560 --> 01:02:59,925
- Where would the money come from?
- 1420
- 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,287
- It would come from finally
- getting rid of the Apple II.
- 1421
- 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,249
- The Apple II is the
- only thing making money.
- 1422
- 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:05,401
- You agreed with the board.
- 1423
- 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,289
- I understood the board's
- concerns, but I...
- 1424
- 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,376
- The board's concerns that
- we didn't show the product?
- 1425
- 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:10,856
- Among other things,
- but my question was...
- 1426
- 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,336
- What other things? Honestly, I'm
- just asking 'cause I'm curious.
- 1427
- 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:14,536
- You said "among other things."
- 1428
- 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,166
- Among other things. It was
- set in a dystopian galaxy.
- 1429
- 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,129
- It took place on a planet
- where we don't live.
- 1430
- 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,282
- It was dark, and the
- opposite of our brand.
- 1431
- 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,368
- And we didn't show the product.
- 1432
- 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,127
- People talked about the ad, but most of
- them didn't know what we were selling.
- 1433
- 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,448
- The Mac needs
- to sell for $1,995.
- 1434
- 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,363
- There is no market
- research telling us
- 1435
- 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,522
- that the Mac is failing
- because it's overpriced.
- 1436
- 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,409
- It's telling us that
- people don't like it
- 1437
- 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,284
- because they think it
- doesn't do anything.
- 1438
- 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,124
- It's closed, end-to-end.
- 1439
- 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,121
- We didn't know it wasn't what
- people wanted, but it isn't.
- 1440
- 01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,320
- They want slots, they want
- choices, they want options.
- 1441
- 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,681
- The way we buy stereos,
- mix and match components.
- 1442
- 01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:47,881
- John, listen to me.
- 1443
- 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:49,736
- Whoever said the customer
- is always right was,
- 1444
- 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:50,886
- I promise you, a customer.
- 1445
- 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,166
- It had skinheads in it.
- 1446
- 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,208
- She was liberating them.
- Liberating the skinheads.
- 1447
- 01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,521
- The ad didn't have anything to
- do with fucking skinheads!
- 1448
- 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,090
- We used them as fucking extras.
- 1449
- 01:03:58,160 --> 01:03:59,650
- Nobody even knows
- they were skinheads!
- 1450
- 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,256
- I'm just saying,
- the board had concerns...
- 1451
- 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,487
- You invented
- lifestyle advertising.
- 1452
- 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,768
- And "our brand" was my brand.
- 1453
- 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,451
- My job is to make a
- recommendation to the board.
- 1454
- 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,256
- We showed a lot of happy
- people drinking Pepsi.
- 1455
- 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,250
- We didn't say the world was going
- to end if you bought a Dr. Pepper!
- 1456
- 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:14,600
- Recommend that we drop the price
- 1457
- 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:15,896
- and double the marketing budget.
- 1458
- 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:16,921
- I can't.
- 1459
- 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:18,724
- And we showed the product!
- 1460
- 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,087
- We showed it being opened,
- we showed it being poured,
- 1461
- 01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:22,241
- being consumed!
- 1462
- 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,448
- What are you gonna do? Recommend
- that we kill the Mac?
- 1463
- 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,443
- I already have, Steve.
- 1464
- 01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:28,921
- What?
- 1465
- 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:30,800
- When?
- 1466
- 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,240
- You think the secret to
- your success
- 1467
- 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,726
- was not assuming people knew
- what to do with a can of soda?
- 1468
- 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,723
- I didn't kill the ad, Steve!
- 1469
- 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,440
- I'm the only reason
- it made it on the air!
- 1470
- 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:39,846
- Just now.
- 1471
- 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,127
- An hour ago, I'm coming
- from Markkula's house.
- 1472
- 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:43,721
- What did he say?
- 1473
- 01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,242
- What did he say?
- Invent something new.
- 1474
- 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:48,976
- I'll give you a team,
- you can sit in Maui.
- 1475
- 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,604
- The resorts come with couches.
- 1476
- 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,808
- Wait a minute. Are you saying you
- recommended terminating the Mac?
- 1477
- 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,603
- Or you recommended taking me
- off the Mac team?
- 1478
- 01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,603
- We bought three spots
- in the Super Bowl.
- 1479
- 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:00,841
- Two 30s and a 60.
- 1480
- 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,696
- And after we screened it, the
- board wanted that money back,
- 1481
- 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,404
- and they asked me to
- sell off the spots.
- 1482
- 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,721
- Chiat/Day sold off the
- two 30s, but not the 60,
- 1483
- 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,126
- and I let it be known
- to Lee Clow
- 1484
- 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:09,690
- that if he didn't try very hard
- 1485
- 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,201
- to sell the last spot,
- I wouldn't be unhappy.
- 1486
- 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:13,856
- If we drop the price
- and double the budget...
- 1487
- 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,769
- You can't drop the price
- or double the budget!
- 1488
- 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,605
- I mean, the only way to do that is
- to take money out of the Apple II.
- 1489
- 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,365
- The Apple II should embarrass you.
- It embarrasses me.
- 1490
- 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:22,920
- It doesn't embarrass
- the shareholders.
- 1491
- 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,616
- I don't give a shit
- about the shareholders!
- 1492
- 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,176
- That's why I hired you, so I don't
- ever have to hear about shareholders!
- 1493
- 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,611
- The shareholders are my problem,
- 1494
- 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,762
- and the board represents
- the shareholders!
- 1495
- 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,444
- That's how it works!
- 1496
- 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,046
- You sure it wasn't Lee Clow who
- dragged his feet selling the 60?
- 1497
- 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,322
- At my direction, Steve.
- 1498
- 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,290
- You think he would have done that
- on his own, taken it on himself?
- 1499
- 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,125
- Yeah. I think he would've done
- what it took to save it from you.
- 1500
- 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:44,964
- I was the only thing
- protecting it!
- 1501
- 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,040
- You didn't want the ad
- 1502
- 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,656
- because you were trying to kill the
- Mac two months before it launched!
- 1503
- 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,205
- You are fucking delusional!
- 1504
- 01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,609
- Can I mention something to you?
- Sure.
- 1505
- 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,768
- I have no earthly idea
- why you're here.
- 1506
- 01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,849
- The story of why
- and how you left Apple,
- 1507
- 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,764
- which is quickly becoming
- mythologized, isn't true.
- 1508
- 01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:07,416
- I'm gonna take this
- to the board myself.
- 1509
- 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:08,965
- - Don't do that.
- - I am doing that.
- 1510
- 01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:10,041
- You can't.
- 1511
- 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:11,121
- Why?
- 1512
- 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,570
- They believe you're no longer
- necessary to this company.
- 1513
- 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:21,081
- I get hate mail.
- 1514
- 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:24,281
- Death threats.
- 1515
- 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,562
- I get death threats!
- 1516
- 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,290
- My kids are getting taunted.
- 1517
- 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,206
- Why do people think I fired you?
- 1518
- 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:36,809
- Joanna's gonna call
- my name in a second.
- 1519
- 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,724
- - Steve?
- - That was unrehearsed.
- 1520
- 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,325
- Yeah, I'll be there
- in just a second!
- 1521
- 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:41,970
- I gave you your day in court.
- 1522
- 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,648
- You "gave" me? I gave the
- board a clear choice.
- 1523
- 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,736
- I said, "Do you want to invest
- in the Apple II or the Mac?"
- 1524
- 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:47,886
- And they chose the Apple II.
- 1525
- 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:49,896
- The same people who wanted
- to dump the Super Bowl spot.
- 1526
- 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:51,888
- And then I got on
- a plane to China.
- 1527
- 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,451
- Mr. Sculley, there's a call
- for you on Line 1.
- 1528
- 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,571
- Or I almost got on a plane, because
- I got a call in the lounge.
- 1529
- 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,051
- Who made that call?
- Doesn't matter.
- 1530
- 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:02,969
- It matters to me.
- Who made the call?
- 1531
- 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,080
- John Sculley.
- 1532
- 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:05,929
- John, if you get on that plane,
- 1533
- 01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:07,880
- you'll have lost your job
- by the time it lands.
- 1534
- 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,724
- Steve's been calling the board.
- He wants you out.
- 1535
- 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:13,686
- I left my bags on the plane.
- 1536
- 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,290
- My shit's still somewhere
- in Beijing.
- 1537
- 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,284
- I took a car back to Cupertino in
- the middle of the fucking night.
- 1538
- 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:19,441
- I know what time it is.
- 1539
- 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,649
- I need a quorum here in one hour,
- and I want Steve here, too.
- 1540
- 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,760
- You took me off the
- Mac, and it was bad business.
- 1541
- 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:27,690
- The quorum call was a homicide.
- 1542
- 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,161
- Right there! That's the part
- that's bullshit, my friend.
- 1543
- 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,210
- It was a suicide, because
- you knew your cards,
- 1544
- 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:34,406
- and I showed you mine.
- 1545
- 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,370
- I showed you mine,
- and you did it anyway.
- 1546
- 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:38,936
- What did you think
- I was going to do?
- 1547
- 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,486
- I'm okay losing,
- but I'm not gonna forfeit.
- 1548
- 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:43,843
- I'm not okay losing.
- 1549
- 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,081
- We're losing market share,
- 1550
- 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:46,650
- and the Mac is losing money.
- 1551
- 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,406
- Our only hope is the Apple II,
- which is stagnating
- 1552
- 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,482
- because of its
- soon-to-be obsolete DOS.
- 1553
- 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:55,087
- Users are already rigging their machines
- to run with a CP/M operating system
- 1554
- 01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:56,650
- that's been built
- to run on Intel.
- 1555
- 01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:58,720
- I can't put it
- more simply than this.
- 1556
- 01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,804
- We need to put our resources
- into updating the Apple II.
- 1557
- 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,247
- By taking resources
- from the Mac.
- 1558
- 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:05,810
- - It's failing.
- - That's a fact.
- 1559
- 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,856
- It's overpriced. There's
- no evidence that it's...
- 1560
- 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:09,041
- I'm the evidence!
- 1561
- 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,648
- I'm the world's leading
- expert on the Mac, John.
- 1562
- 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:12,721
- What's your resume?
- 1563
- 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,483
- You're issuing
- contradictory instructions,
- 1564
- 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,608
- you're insubordinate,
- you make people miserable,
- 1565
- 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,650
- our top engineers are fleeing
- to Sun, Dell, HP.
- 1566
- 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,961
- Wall Street doesn't know
- who's driving the bus.
- 1567
- 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,202
- We've lost hundreds
- of millions in value,
- 1568
- 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:26,850
- and I'm the CEO of Apple, Steve.
- 1569
- 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:27,967
- That's my resume.
- 1570
- 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,050
- But before that, you sold
- carbonated sugar water, right?
- 1571
- 01:08:31,480 --> 01:08:35,121
- I sat in a fucking garage with
- Wozniak and invented the future.
- 1572
- 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,647
- Because artists lead and hacks
- ask for a show of hands!
- 1573
- 01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,566
- All right. Well,
- this guy's out of control.
- 1574
- 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,291
- I'm perfectly willing to hand
- in my resignation tonight,
- 1575
- 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,362
- but if you want me to stay,
- you can't have Steve.
- 1576
- 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:48,565
- Settle him out.
- 1577
- 01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,081
- He can keep a share of stock,
- so he gets our newsletter.
- 1578
- 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,081
- He'll have to sever
- his connection to Apple.
- 1579
- 01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,164
- I'm dead serious. I want the
- secretary to call for a vote.
- 1580
- 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,525
- I fucking dare you.
- 1581
- 01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:07,251
- You have done an outstanding
- job over the years
- 1582
- 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,404
- of cultivating the press, and by
- that I mean manipulating them
- 1583
- 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,528
- because none of them,
- none of their editors,
- 1584
- 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,496
- none of their editors'
- publishers, to this day,
- 1585
- 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:15,965
- know that you forced it.
- 1586
- 01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:17,969
- That you forced the board.
- 1587
- 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:19,963
- Even after I told you
- exactly what they'd do,
- 1588
- 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:21,923
- which is exactly what they did.
- 1589
- 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:23,520
- Unanimously.
- 1590
- 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,047
- I don't have any trouble
- remembering that, John,
- 1591
- 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,931
- because of it being
- the worst night of my life.
- 1592
- 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,924
- And I forced the vote because
- I believed I was right.
- 1593
- 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,606
- I still believe I'm right.
- And I'm right.
- 1594
- 01:09:38,440 --> 01:09:39,521
- Now, I bled that night.
- 1595
- 01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:41,770
- And I don't bleed.
- 1596
- 01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:43,481
- But time's done its thing.
- 1597
- 01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,924
- And I really haven't thought
- about it in a while.
- 1598
- 01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,448
- I absolutely understand
- why you're upset.
- 1599
- 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,523
- And I want people
- to know the truth, too.
- 1600
- 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:54,601
- It's time.
- 1601
- 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:57,081
- Got it.
- 1602
- 01:09:57,480 --> 01:09:59,482
- You're gonna end me, aren't you?
- 1603
- 01:10:00,440 --> 01:10:02,010
- You're being ridiculous.
- 1604
- 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:05,044
- I'm gonna sit center court
- and watch you do it yourself.
- 1605
- 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,805
- Then I'm gonna order a nice
- meal with a '55 Margaux,
- 1606
- 01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,928
- and sign some autographs.
- Jesus Christ...
- 1607
- 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,604
- You want some advice,
- Pepsi Generation?
- 1608
- 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,206
- Don't send Woz out to slap me
- around in the press.
- 1609
- 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,045
- Anybody else.
- You, Markkula, Arthur Rock.
- 1610
- 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:18,610
- Anyone but Rain Man.
- 1611
- 01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,489
- Don't manipulate him like that.
- 1612
- 01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,323
- Whatever you may think,
- I'm always gonna protect him.
- 1613
- 01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:26,531
- Come on, Steve.
- 1614
- 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:29,931
- That's what men do.
- 1615
- 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,165
- We can't start late.
- 1616
- 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,003
- I don't think there was any way
- to detect a chip on my shoulder.
- 1617
- 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,248
- Did you know, back at Bandley
- 1618
- 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,607
- the Mac team gave
- an award every year
- 1619
- 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,409
- to the person who could
- stand up to you?
- 1620
- 01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:56,521
- No.
- 1621
- 01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:57,601
- I won.
- 1622
- 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,049
- Three years in a row.
- 1623
- 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:01,361
- Cool.
- 1624
- 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,048
- This... This...
- 1625
- 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,011
- This Guy Kawasaki in Macworld...
- 1626
- 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,126
- He accidentally
- got it right, didn't he?
- 1627
- 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,203
- You've been dragging
- your feet on the NeXT OS
- 1628
- 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,011
- until you can figure out
- what Apple's going to need.
- 1629
- 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,442
- Even if that were true, it doesn't
- sound that diabolical to me.
- 1630
- 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:24,965
- Hey. We're ready for you!
- 1631
- 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:38,282
- I'm your closest confidante,
- your best friend.
- 1632
- 01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,886
- Your thing...
- What do you call it?
- 1633
- 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:42,361
- Your "work wife."
- 1634
- 01:11:42,440 --> 01:11:45,922
- The whole time!
- The last three years...
- 1635
- 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:51,246
- When did you change your mind
- 1636
- 01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,210
- and start building the Steve
- Jobs Revenge Machine?
- 1637
- 01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:59,241
- House to half.
- 1638
- 01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:02,491
- Do you remember Skylab?
- 1639
- 01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,050
- It was an unmanned satellite
- NASA sent up in the early '70s
- 1640
- 01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:09,929
- on a data-gathering mission.
- 1641
- 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,326
- The thing is,
- when they sent it up,
- 1642
- 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,006
- they didn't know yet how they
- were going to get it back.
- 1643
- 01:12:16,440 --> 01:12:18,522
- But they felt like
- they were close enough
- 1644
- 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,416
- that in the eight years it was going
- to be up there, they'd figure it out.
- 1645
- 01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:22,885
- They're on their way now.
- 1646
- 01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:24,571
- They didn't.
- 1647
- 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:26,760
- So, after eight years,
- 1648
- 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:30,322
- it came crashing down in a 1,000-mile
- swath across the Indian Ocean.
- 1649
- 01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,763
- A little to the left,
- a little to the right,
- 1650
- 01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:34,763
- somebody could have gotten hurt.
- 1651
- 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,329
- I really wanted to build
- a computer for colleges.
- 1652
- 01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,446
- The technology just didn't catch
- up as fast as I needed it to.
- 1653
- 01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:43,296
- And you know we're out of money.
- 1654
- 01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,971
- Ladies and gentlemen, the
- program will be starting momentarily.
- 1655
- 01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,363
- But then, Apple stopped
- innovating, and I saw something better.
- 1656
- 01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:51,727
- Joanna, I know schools
- aren't going to buy
- 1657
- 01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,371
- a $13,000 dictionary
- with good speakers.
- 1658
- 01:12:54,440 --> 01:12:56,283
- You know I know that.
- 1659
- 01:12:58,320 --> 01:12:59,924
- But Apple will.
- 1660
- 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,567
- Because Avie Tevanian is going to
- build them exactly the OS they need.
- 1661
- 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,449
- They're going to
- have to buy me, too.
- 1662
- 01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,526
- For half a billion
- dollars in stock,
- 1663
- 01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,120
- and end-to-end control
- on every product.
- 1664
- 01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,649
- Ladies and gentlemen,
- please welcome...
- 1665
- 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,842
- More than a
- year after it was first unveiled
- 1666
- 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:54,285
- to industry insiders,
- 1667
- 01:13:54,440 --> 01:13:56,841
- the NeXT Computer is finally
- available in stores.
- 1668
- 01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,368
- And it appears to be two
- strikes in a row for Steve Jobs.
- 1669
- 01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,921
- Students and educators
- are finding it difficult
- 1670
- 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,202
- to justify
- the machine's high cost.
- 1671
- 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:06,930
- So much for the Black Cube.
- 1672
- 01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,247
- NeXT just sold
- its factory to Canon,
- 1673
- 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,647
- and laid off half its employees.
- 1674
- 01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:15,042
- In the world of computers,
- it's kill or be killed.
- 1675
- 01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,202
- Apple Computer has
- fallen on hard times.
- 1676
- 01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,761
- It is laying off
- about 2,500 people.
- 1677
- 01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,042
- Apple is
- continuing to lose market share
- 1678
- 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,168
- with no new innovations
- in the pipeline
- 1679
- 01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:27,164
- except the Newton, a pet
- project of CEO John Sculley.
- 1680
- 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,562
- If you really want to
- be mobile, you want a Newton PDA.
- 1681
- 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,210
- But, then again,
- maybe you don't.
- 1682
- 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,767
- It turns handwriting
- into computer text.
- 1683
- 01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:39,565
- Hey, Dolph, take a memo on your Newton.
- "Beat up Martin."
- 1684
- 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,565
- In 1980, Apple
- had 30% of the market.
- 1685
- 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,405
- Today, Apple has only 3.2%.
- 1686
- 01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,962
- That's it. John Sculley
- has been fired from Apple.
- 1687
- 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:55,216
- And what
- about this internet thing?
- 1688
- 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:56,416
- Do you know anything about that?
- 1689
- 01:14:56,440 --> 01:14:58,602
- Uh, it is the big, new thing.
- 1690
- 01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,681
- Rumors are flying around
- Apple Computer once again,
- 1691
- 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,410
- over who will
- take over the helm.
- 1692
- 01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,126
- In the news at this hour, a
- remarkable high-tech reunion.
- 1693
- 01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:07,281
- Well, it's happening.
- 1694
- 01:15:07,480 --> 01:15:08,686
- In a billion-dollar shake-up,
- 1695
- 01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:10,808
- Apple is purchasing
- NeXT Computer's
- 1696
- 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,216
- operating system,
- which may mean...
- 1697
- 01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,288
- ls the prodigal
- son returning? Bet on it.
- 1698
- 01:15:14,440 --> 01:15:16,169
- Guess what. Mac is back.
- 1699
- 01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:17,771
- Apple co-founder Steven Jobs...
- 1700
- 01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,968
- Steve Jobs... Steve Jobs...
- 1701
- 01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:21,764
- Steve Jobs
- is returning to Apple.
- 1702
- 01:15:24,440 --> 01:15:28,365
- If you want to beam your digital
- photographs from your digital camera,
- 1703
- 01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:31,330
- it's built into every product. We're
- going to the new generation of I/O.
- 1704
- 01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:33,841
- 12-megabyte USB. Two ports.
- 1705
- 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,361
- We're leaving
- the old Apple I/O behind.
- 1706
- 01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,000
- Stereo surround sound
- built into every product.
- 1707
- 01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:43,165
- A great keyboard, and the
- coolest mouse you've ever seen.
- 1708
- 01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:47,202
- This time, we used actual mice.
- 1709
- 01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,290
- We're opening the house
- in 10 minutes. Steven?
- 1710
- 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,529
- Do you want to stop
- horsing around?
- 1711
- 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,005
- Bless my eyes.
- 1712
- 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,971
- That's Steve Wozniak,
- sitting out there.
- 1713
- 01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,523
- Give yourselves
- a treat and ask Woz
- 1714
- 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,120
- if he happens to have
- the correct time.
- 1715
- 01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,085
- I have the correct time,
- and we're running out of it.
- 1716
- 01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:08,241
- "A great keyboard."
- 1717
- 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,204
- A great keyboard and the coolest
- mouse you've ever seen.
- 1718
- 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,563
- This is what those things
- look like today.
- 1719
- 01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:19,248
- And now, I'd like to show you what
- they're going to look like tomorrow.
- 1720
- 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,081
- This is the iMac.
- 1721
- 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:53,205
- That was cool.
- 1722
- 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,280
- Why did I like that
- better than I usually do?
- 1723
- 01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,362
- I don't know.
- Something was different.
- 1724
- 01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,045
- Hey, stupid!
- 1725
- 01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,248
- I think she's talking to one of you guys.
- 1726
- 01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,488
- - Did you notice a difference?
- - That's what I'm...
- 1727
- 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,441
- The exit signs were off.
- 1728
- 01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:07,601
- Full blackout.
- 1729
- 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:08,886
- You did it!
- 1730
- 01:17:09,440 --> 01:17:11,016
- We wired all the exit
- lights to our board.
- 1731
- 01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:12,804
- They go out with the cue
- for seven seconds,
- 1732
- 01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:14,216
- then come back on again,
- in theory.
- 1733
- 01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:15,241
- We think that's legal?
- 1734
- 01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,050
- No, we're very certain it's not.
- 1735
- 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:18,925
- You want to see some quotes?
- 1736
- 01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,048
- Let's hold off on those.
- No, he'll like them.
- 1737
- 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:24,281
- I'll show them to you later.
- 1738
- 01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:25,691
- I'll take them now.
- 1739
- 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:27,641
- I'm sorry.
- 1740
- 01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:28,920
- Pick it up from there, please.
- 1741
- 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,804
- We only have a couple of minutes,
- so let's just do the 360.
- 1742
- 01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,168
- We're going to bring out a
- wireless camera we stole from Panasonic.
- 1743
- 01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,243
- I'll show you
- what this looks like.
- 1744
- 01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,085
- The whole thing is translucent.
- You can see into it.
- 1745
- 01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:43,765
- How's that
- for a compromise, Woz?
- 1746
- 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,446
- You still can't get into it,
- but you can see into it.
- 1747
- 01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:47,520
- Fair enough.
- 1748
- 01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:51,241
- We put stereo speakers in
- front, infrared right up here.
- 1749
- 01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:53,004
- CD-ROM drive in the middle.
- 1750
- 01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:54,081
- Nice.
- 1751
- 01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:55,764
- Dual stereo headphone jacks,
- 1752
- 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,365
- and all the connectors
- are inside
- 1753
- 01:17:57,440 --> 01:17:58,885
- one beautiful little door, here.
- 1754
- 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,368
- Ethernet, USB.
- 1755
- 01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,525
- Even though this is a full-blooded
- Macintosh, we're targeting it
- 1756
- 01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,763
- for the number-one use the consumers
- tell us they want a computer for.
- 1757
- 01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:10,400
- - Which is...
- - Let's hold it, please!
- 1758
- 01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:11,601
- Hold it.
- 1759
- 01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,366
- The answer was "the Internet."
- 1760
- 01:18:14,440 --> 01:18:16,044
- - Joanna?
- - Yeah.
- 1761
- 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:19,086
- Just stand in front of me.
- 1762
- 01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,136
- I want to look at these quotes,
- but I don't want Joel to know.
- 1763
- 01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:22,685
- They're all great.
- 1764
- 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,885
- "It is not only the coolest-looking
- computer introduced in years,
- 1765
- 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:29,644
- "but a chest-thumping statement
- 1766
- 01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:34,282
- "that Silicon Valley's original dream
- company is no longer somnambulant."
- 1767
- 01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,760
- - It's a word. It means "sleepwalking."
- - Steve?
- 1768
- 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,176
- I'm sorry, we have to clear the house
- if we're going to start on time.
- 1769
- 01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,376
- We're absolutely starting on time.
- We're going to start on time.
- 1770
- 01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:44,731
- Here, take this.
- 1771
- 01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:46,401
- Everybody, that's it.
- 1772
- 01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:49,051
- They've got to mop the stage,
- reset, and open the house.
- 1773
- 01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:50,480
- I love you guys.
- 1774
- 01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,330
- Andy, come on back a minute.
- 1775
- 01:19:00,480 --> 01:19:01,641
- - Which one?
- - Hertzfeld.
- 1776
- 01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,091
- Forbes calls it
- an industry-altering success.
- 1777
- 01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,011
- Look here.
- 1778
- 01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:19,324
- Why haven't we ever
- slept together?
- 1779
- 01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:21,611
- We're not in love. Look.
- 1780
- 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:25,361
- Sculley.
- 1781
- 01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:26,931
- Look what he said.
- 1782
- 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,056
- "He has implemented
- the same simple strategy
- 1783
- 01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,845
- "that made Apple so
- successful 15 years ago.
- 1784
- 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,243
- "Make hit products and promote
- them with terrific marketing."
- 1785
- 01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:37,726
- That was nice of him.
- 1786
- 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:39,081
- It was.
- 1787
- 01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:40,287
- I meant it.
- 1788
- 01:19:40,440 --> 01:19:44,001
- Sightings of J.D. Salinger are
- more common than John Sculley.
- 1789
- 01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,651
- I wasn't being sarcastic.
- It was nice of him.
- 1790
- 01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:49,761
- Do you talk to him?
- 1791
- 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:50,841
- No.
- 1792
- 01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:52,968
- You haven't talked
- to him since '88?
- 1793
- 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,565
- I'd have told you if I did.
- 1794
- 01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:56,726
- Doesn't matter.
- 1795
- 01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:58,536
- I don't want people thinking
- they can cross me
- 1796
- 01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,962
- and then, boom, 15 years
- later, I'm cool with it.
- 1797
- 01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:03,971
- I was kidding.
- 1798
- 01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:06,809
- What's wrong with you
- this morning?
- 1799
- 01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:10,484
- Let's get off the stage.
- 1800
- 01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,564
- "The only thing Apple's providing
- now is leadership in colors."
- 1801
- 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:16,926
- Don't worry about it.
- 1802
- 01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:18,605
- What does Bill Gates
- have against me?
- 1803
- 01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:20,922
- I don't know. You're both
- out of your minds.
- 1804
- 01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:22,286
- Listen to me.
- 1805
- 01:20:22,440 --> 01:20:24,296
- He dropped out of a better
- school than I dropped out of.
- 1806
- 01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,243
- But he's a tool bag.
- I'll tell you why.
- 1807
- 01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,082
- Make everything
- all right with Lisa.
- 1808
- 01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,402
- - You know, Joanna?
- - Boundaries.
- 1809
- 01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:35,084
- You've come to my apartment at 1:00 a.m.
- and cleaned it.
- 1810
- 01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:36,571
- So tell me where
- the boundary is.
- 1811
- 01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:38,330
- There. Let's say it's there.
- 1812
- 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,480
- If I give you some
- real projections,
- 1813
- 01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,968
- will you promise not to
- repeat them from the stage?
- 1814
- 01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:47,681
- What do you mean,
- "Real projections"?
- 1815
- 01:20:48,440 --> 01:20:49,726
- What have you been giving me?
- 1816
- 01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:51,211
- Conservative projections.
- 1817
- 01:20:52,440 --> 01:20:53,965
- Marketing's been lying to me?
- 1818
- 01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:57,607
- We've been managing expectations
- so that you don't not.
- 1819
- 01:20:58,040 --> 01:20:59,610
- What are the real projections?
- 1820
- 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,287
- We're going to sell a million
- units in the first 90 days.
- 1821
- 01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:05,604
- 20,000 a month after that.
- 1822
- 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:07,331
- - Holy shit!
- - Yeah.
- 1823
- 01:21:07,480 --> 01:21:08,970
- You see? You wait
- long enough, and...
- 1824
- 01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,043
- What's more, 32% of the sales
- 1825
- 01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:15,449
- are going to go to people buying
- a computer for the first time.
- 1826
- 01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:20,168
- And 12% are going to people using
- some kind of Windows machine.
- 1827
- 01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,210
- That's what Bill Gates
- has against you.
- 1828
- 01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,410
- And it'll be the fastest-selling
- computer in history.
- 1829
- 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,169
- You brought the company
- back from life support
- 1830
- 01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,245
- after going through the misery
- of laying off 3,000 people
- 1831
- 01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,323
- and cutting 70% of
- the product line.
- 1832
- 01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:37,481
- So, Steven,
- 1833
- 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:39,890
- it's over.
- 1834
- 01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,244
- You're going to win.
- 1835
- 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,406
- It would be criminal
- not to enjoy this moment.
- 1836
- 01:21:47,480 --> 01:21:48,641
- I'm enjoying it.
- 1837
- 01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:50,171
- Make things all right with Lisa.
- 1838
- 01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,402
- - You know...
- - Come on.
- 1839
- 01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,689
- I don't like having less privacy
- than other people have.
- 1840
- 01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,885
- Does being a multi-billionaire
- take some of the sting off that?
- 1841
- 01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:00,007
- No.
- 1842
- 01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,010
- All Lisa did... All Lisa
- did was give her blessing.
- 1843
- 01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:04,923
- Chrisann sold the house and...
- 1844
- 01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,525
- And Lisa could have done what?
- 1845
- 01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,016
- How was she supposed to stop her
- mother from selling her own house?
- 1846
- 01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:10,610
- That I bought
- for the two of them.
- 1847
- 01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,091
- How was she supposed
- to stop her?
- 1848
- 01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,576
- Voicing an objection would have been
- a step in the right direction.
- 1849
- 01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:17,888
- You don't think you're having
- a bizarre overreaction
- 1850
- 01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:21,851
- to a 19-year-old girl allowing her
- mother to list her own house?
- 1851
- 01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:23,081
- She could've tried.
- 1852
- 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,369
- How is she supposed to stop her
- mother, that particular mother...
- 1853
- 01:22:26,440 --> 01:22:28,360
- She gave Chrisann her
- blessing to sell the house,
- 1854
- 01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:29,640
- and she did it to spite me!
- 1855
- 01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:33,361
- I don't care if she put a pipe
- bomb in the water heater!
- 1856
- 01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,086
- You're going to fix it, now.
- 1857
- 01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,369
- She's been acting weird for months.
- She's turned on me.
- 1858
- 01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:41,564
- - Fix it.
- - What the...
- 1859
- 01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:43,809
- - Fix it, Steve.
- - Take it easy!
- 1860
- 01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:45,325
- Fix it or I quit.
- How about that?
- 1861
- 01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,404
- I quit and you never see me again.
- How about that?
- 1862
- 01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,407
- Tell me what's wrong
- with you this morning.
- 1863
- 01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,606
- What's been wrong
- with me for 19 years.
- 1864
- 01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:02,241
- I've been a witness, and I
- tell you I've been complicit.
- 1865
- 01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,129
- I love you, Steve.
- You know how much.
- 1866
- 01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,764
- I love that you don't care how
- much money a person makes,
- 1867
- 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:12,450
- you care what they make.
- 1868
- 01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,283
- But what you make isn't supposed
- to be the best part of you.
- 1869
- 01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:18,529
- When you're a father,
- 1870
- 01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:22,007
- that's what's supposed to be
- the best part of you.
- 1871
- 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:26,608
- And it's caused me two decades of
- agony, Steve, that it is for you
- 1872
- 01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:29,840
- the worst.
- 1873
- 01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:36,606
- It's a little thing.
- It's a very small thing.
- 1874
- 01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,050
- Fix it.
- 1875
- 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:45,282
- Fix it now, or you can
- contact me at my new job,
- 1876
- 01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,204
- working anywhere I want.
- 1877
- 01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,368
- I don't happen to think
- it is a little deal.
- 1878
- 01:23:52,440 --> 01:23:53,566
- - She knew that...
- - No.
- 1879
- 01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:55,688
- - I bought the house for the two of.
- - No.
- 1880
- 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:57,802
- What do you mean, "No"?
- I mean, no.
- 1881
- 01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:01,442
- The house has nothing to do
- with why you're angry at Lisa.
- 1882
- 01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,363
- I assure you,
- the house has everything
- 1883
- 01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:04,656
- to do with why
- I'm angry at Lisa.
- 1884
- 01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:09,129
- Have you ever heard the phrase
- "reality distortion field"?
- 1885
- 01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:10,760
- Yes.
- 1886
- 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,406
- As in, "Steve's
- reality distortion field"?
- 1887
- 01:24:13,480 --> 01:24:14,696
- - I've heard it.
- - I've read it.
- 1888
- 01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:16,210
- It's been sung
- to me by Joan Baez.
- 1889
- 01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,049
- What you call
- a reality distortion field,
- 1890
- 01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,361
- and I'm pretty sure you're the
- one who coined the phrase,
- 1891
- 01:24:20,440 --> 01:24:21,521
- is the reason we're here.
- 1892
- 01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:22,601
- I know that.
- 1893
- 01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,728
- If I traded in my
- bank account for a dollar
- 1894
- 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,656
- every time somebody told me
- something was impossible,
- 1895
- 01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:27,727
- I'd come out ahead.
- 1896
- 01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:29,643
- I know that, too.
- What's the problem?
- 1897
- 01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,484
- My problem?
- It sure isn't the house.
- 1898
- 01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:32,561
- Jo, I...
- 1899
- 01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:37,009
- It's that you told her you weren't
- going to pay for Harvard.
- 1900
- 01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:41,484
- That child. That
- earnest, un-ironic kid.
- 1901
- 01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:43,409
- She told you I wasn't
- paying her tuition?
- 1902
- 01:24:43,480 --> 01:24:45,960
- I should have hit you with
- something heavy a long time ago.
- 1903
- 01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,805
- Lisa told you I wasn't
- paying her tuition?
- 1904
- 01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,008
- Andy told me that.
- 1905
- 01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:52,241
- Which one?
- 1906
- 01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:54,445
- Hertzfeld.
- 1907
- 01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:56,525
- How would Hertzfeld know?
- 1908
- 01:24:56,600 --> 01:25:00,924
- He wrote Harvard a check for
- $25,000 to cover the semester.
- 1909
- 01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:02,525
- Are you fucking...
- 1910
- 01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:03,761
- He paid her tuition?
- 1911
- 01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,601
- Isn't that why you
- just asked to see him?
- 1912
- 01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:08,216
- No, I asked to see him
- about something...
- 1913
- 01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,846
- Did you tell her you weren't
- going to pay for college?
- 1914
- 01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,489
- Yes, because...
- How could you do that?
- 1915
- 01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,609
- Because her mother,
- who is also her landlord...
- 1916
- 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:18,728
- Hertzfeld? I was ranting!
- 1917
- 01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:21,366
- I was just talking!
- You think I would...
- 1918
- 01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,283
- I was pissed off because Lisa was
- trying to piss me off, Joanna.
- 1919
- 01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,124
- That was her intent!
- 1920
- 01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,089
- You obviously scared
- the hell out of her!
- 1921
- 01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:32,642
- - Hertzfeld wrote a check to Harvard.
- - Pay for...
- 1922
- 01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:35,081
- Is she here yet?
- 1923
- 01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:36,201
- I'm sure she is.
- 1924
- 01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:37,800
- Can you have someone
- bring her back?
- 1925
- 01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:39,201
- Yes.
- 1926
- 01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:42,921
- Thank you.
- 1927
- 01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:47,806
- You know,
- 1928
- 01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,484
- my grandmother always
- used to say to me...
- 1929
- 01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:53,244
- I don't give a shit, Yentl.
- 1930
- 01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:57,602
- I'll have someone get Lisa.
- Thank you.
- 1931
- 01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:58,921
- And if you see Hertzfeld...
- 1932
- 01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,401
- It's Andy!
- 1933
- 01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,162
- Speak of
- the devil's chief engineer.
- 1934
- 01:26:05,440 --> 01:26:06,930
- Go. Come on in.
- 1935
- 01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,083
- You look great today.
- 1936
- 01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:13,685
- - Thank you.
- - Doesn't she?
- 1937
- 01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:15,763
- She looks fantastic.
- Always does.
- 1938
- 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:16,921
- Get out.
- 1939
- 01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:20,844
- Well, I think I know
- why I'm here.
- 1940
- 01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:22,764
- - Do you?
- - Steve...
- 1941
- 01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:24,285
- Did you send the check yet?
- 1942
- 01:26:24,440 --> 01:26:25,441
- Yes.
- 1943
- 01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,683
- So Harvard got a tuition check from
- Andy Hertzfeld to pay for Lisa?
- 1944
- 01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:30,644
- I don't think
- they look that carefully.
- 1945
- 01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,491
- I don't think they'd notice the
- check didn't come from you.
- 1946
- 01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:34,761
- Close one.
- 1947
- 01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:36,450
- This was almost
- embarrassing for me.
- 1948
- 01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:39,608
- I understand how... I'll
- wire you the money today.
- 1949
- 01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:43,526
- I understand how you feel.
- And I do apologize, I do.
- 1950
- 01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:45,728
- But, let me tell you
- my thinking.
- 1951
- 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,416
- I can't even think of an appropriate
- analogy to describe what you did.
- 1952
- 01:26:48,440 --> 01:26:50,841
- I knew you guys would fix things.
- You always do.
- 1953
- 01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:52,923
- But in the meantime,
- if the money wasn't there,
- 1954
- 01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:54,729
- she'd miss a semester of school.
- 1955
- 01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:55,800
- Yeah.
- 1956
- 01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:57,888
- And she'd have to
- tell her friends why.
- 1957
- 01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,927
- And she needed things.
- She needed socks.
- 1958
- 01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:02,047
- What?
- 1959
- 01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:05,124
- It's cold in Cambridge.
- She needed warm socks.
- 1960
- 01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:06,481
- You gave her socks?
- 1961
- 01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:08,962
- Well, I gave her money
- for socks.
- 1962
- 01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,845
- You don't get to deputize
- yourself as her interim.
- 1963
- 01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,687
- You don't get to override my decisions.
- Do you understand?
- 1964
- 01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,081
- You don't get to act
- like you're her father.
- 1965
- 01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:19,685
- Somebody had to.
- 1966
- 01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,482
- What the fuck did you
- just say to me?
- 1967
- 01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,211
- I've known her
- since she was six.
- 1968
- 01:27:26,480 --> 01:27:28,323
- I also consider...
- 1969
- 01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,491
- Chrisann's my friend,
- outside of what you and I...
- 1970
- 01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,842
- Outside of our relationship.
- 1971
- 01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:35,280
- So you're like a family advisor.
- 1972
- 01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:36,560
- I'm a family friend.
- 1973
- 01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,246
- Then you probably know that
- Lisa's been seeing a therapist.
- 1974
- 01:27:39,440 --> 01:27:40,441
- Yeah.
- 1975
- 01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:41,726
- - For many years.
- - Yeah.
- 1976
- 01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:42,881
- Without my knowledge.
- 1977
- 01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:46,684
- That really wasn't my business.
- 1978
- 01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:50,009
- I'm fascinated by what you
- think is and isn't your business.
- 1979
- 01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,890
- Lisa's been going to a
- therapist, and she likes it.
- 1980
- 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:57,686
- And would love for you and
- Chrisann to go with her.
- 1981
- 01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,361
- And the reason
- you know that is because
- 1982
- 01:28:00,440 --> 01:28:02,240
- you're the one that
- recommended the therapist.
- 1983
- 01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:03,726
- Well, I know a guy.
- 1984
- 01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:07,049
- No, I mean you're the one who
- recommended that she see a therapist.
- 1985
- 01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:10,281
- You know what?
- 1986
- 01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,803
- It was a while ago, and I don't
- remember how the whole...
- 1987
- 01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,884
- You told Chrisann that Lisa
- should see a therapist.
- 1988
- 01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,964
- Steve, you're stigmatizing.
- It's a perfectly norm...
- 1989
- 01:28:21,440 --> 01:28:24,489
- It's not... My thing was,
- how can it hurt?
- 1990
- 01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:25,766
- Let's find out.
- 1991
- 01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:28,761
- Chrisann is my friend.
- 1992
- 01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:30,000
- What was the reason you gave?
- 1993
- 01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:32,360
- You mean...
- 1994
- 01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:36,246
- What was the reason you gave Chrisann
- why Lisa should see a therapist?
- 1995
- 01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,641
- I don't remember. We were
- talking and I said...
- 1996
- 01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:40,016
- It's pretty much
- what I just said,
- 1997
- 01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:41,405
- that it certainly couldn't hurt.
- 1998
- 01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:46,564
- You didn't say that Lisa needed
- a strong male role model?
- 1999
- 01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:55,161
- I did.
- 2000
- 01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:05,163
- I think it's a miracle
- she's not robbing banks
- 2001
- 01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,083
- with the Symbionese
- Liberation Army.
- 2002
- 01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:14,285
- There is no reason in the
- world why she should be nice.
- 2003
- 01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:16,486
- But she is.
- 2004
- 01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:21,285
- So I helped.
- 2005
- 01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,010
- Because somebody had to.
- 2006
- 01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:33,051
- I'll wire the money
- to you this afternoon.
- 2007
- 01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,281
- You threatened me
- a long time ago.
- 2008
- 01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:49,121
- Sorry?
- 2009
- 01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,046
- A long time ago,
- you threatened me once.
- 2010
- 01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:56,728
- People are attracted
- to people with talent.
- 2011
- 01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:58,529
- People without it
- find that threatening.
- 2012
- 01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,684
- Maybe you should see a therapist.
- Certainly couldn't hurt.
- 2013
- 01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:05,806
- I meant you literally
- threatened me.
- 2014
- 01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,247
- At Flint,
- right before the Mac launch.
- 2015
- 01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,926
- I was recompiling. I was
- trying to debug the voice demo.
- 2016
- 01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,241
- And you said if I couldn't
- find a solution,
- 2017
- 01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,163
- you'd call me out
- in front of the audience.
- 2018
- 01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:16,685
- Did it say "hello"?
- 2019
- 01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:17,841
- It did.
- 2020
- 01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,002
- No need to thank me.
- 2021
- 01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,760
- Why do you want people
- to dislike you?
- 2022
- 01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,651
- I don't want people
- to dislike me.
- 2023
- 01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:30,686
- I'm indifferent to whether
- they dislike me.
- 2024
- 01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:35,485
- Since it doesn't matter,
- I always have.
- 2025
- 01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:38,126
- Really?
- 2026
- 01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,209
- I've always liked you a lot.
- 2027
- 01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:44,127
- That's too bad.
- 2028
- 01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:48,005
- Knock 'em dead.
- 2029
- 01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:49,321
- Thank you.
- 2030
- 01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:15,928
- What is remarkable, what's
- hard to fathom but true
- 2031
- 01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,970
- is that for a given
- clock rate, a PowerPC chip
- 2032
- 01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,970
- is twice as fast
- as a Pentium II chip.
- 2033
- 01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:41,169
- In other words,
- a 266 megahertz G3 chip
- 2034
- 01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:46,360
- is twice as fast
- as a 266 megahertz Pentium II.
- 2035
- 01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:50,926
- Or...
- 2036
- 01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:56,770
- a 266 G3 is equal to
- about 500 megahertz.
- 2037
- 01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:05,166
- Take a look at BYTE magazine's BYTE
- Marks, the gold standard for any...
- 2038
- 01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:12,681
- Come in.
- 2039
- 01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:20,727
- I sent someone into the lobby.
- They found her and she...
- 2040
- 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:21,881
- Where is she?
- 2041
- 01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,441
- She said she'd rather
- not come back.
- 2042
- 01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:25,567
- Why?
- 2043
- 01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:27,161
- That was it.
- 2044
- 01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,170
- I'm going out there myself.
- You can't.
- 2045
- 01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:31,686
- You can't. It'll be a scene
- out of Hard Day's Night.
- 2046
- 01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:35,721
- Excuse me?
- 2047
- 01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:37,041
- Hey, Joel.
- 2048
- 01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:38,924
- Andy said it was okay
- to come back.
- 2049
- 01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,125
- - Which one?
- - Andy Cunningham.
- 2050
- 01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:43,766
- I can't do this forever.
- 2051
- 01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:45,410
- I need one of them
- to change their name.
- 2052
- 01:32:45,480 --> 01:32:47,482
- You call
- Andy Cunningham "Andrea."
- 2053
- 01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:48,976
- It doesn't matter
- what I call them.
- 2054
- 01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:50,656
- I know who I'm talking about
- when I'm talking.
- 2055
- 01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:52,648
- I need everyone else to
- call them different names.
- 2056
- 01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:54,691
- Give me one second.
- 2057
- 01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,048
- Can you go get her
- for me, please?
- 2058
- 01:33:01,480 --> 01:33:04,484
- I just talked to Andy Hertzfeld.
- 2059
- 01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:08,003
- I'm just trying to scrub this
- out of my brain with Drano.
- 2060
- 01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,163
- But I do want to talk to Lisa.
- 2061
- 01:33:10,480 --> 01:33:12,050
- Okay, just...
- 2062
- 01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,367
- - Stay cool.
- - Okay.
- 2063
- 01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:18,921
- Thank you.
- 2064
- 01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:28,241
- Hey, Steve.
- 2065
- 01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:42,367
- How are you feeling?
- 2066
- 01:33:42,480 --> 01:33:44,323
- I'm feeling good, Joel.
- How about you?
- 2067
- 01:33:44,480 --> 01:33:47,086
- I don't think I could be in your business.
- It changes too quickly.
- 2068
- 01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:49,083
- Well, I'd hang on,
- 'cause yours is about to
- 2069
- 01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:50,520
- start changing
- pretty quickly, too.
- 2070
- 01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:53,729
- This is the third time in 14
- years I'm writing about you.
- 2071
- 01:33:54,440 --> 01:33:55,771
- What do you think so far?
- 2072
- 01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:58,480
- Excuse me.
- 2073
- 01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:00,576
- Uh, Avie's looking for you.
- He has a new shark.
- 2074
- 01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:02,000
- Want to come backstage
- for a second?
- 2075
- 01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:03,041
- Sure.
- 2076
- 01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:07,561
- Who's this one?
- 2077
- 01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:09,926
- Alan Turing.
- 2078
- 01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:11,724
- Single-handedly won
- World War II and,
- 2079
- 01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:13,484
- for an encore,
- invented the computer.
- 2080
- 01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:15,056
- He won't be part of
- the campaign, though.
- 2081
- 01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:16,081
- Why not?
- 2082
- 01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,367
- Because you just had
- to ask me who he was.
- 2083
- 01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:21,444
- Can I see new shark?
- 2084
- 01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:26,602
- - I like it better than the old shark.
- - Sharks.
- 2085
- 01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:27,721
- Sharks.
- 2086
- 01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:28,976
- How many sharks
- did you go through?
- 2087
- 01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,480
- - A couple.
- - This is the 39th.
- 2088
- 01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:33,206
- We're on the record.
- 2089
- 01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:35,210
- Thirty-nine sharks.
- 2090
- 01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:36,441
- Okay.
- 2091
- 01:34:36,480 --> 01:34:38,528
- You know what's special
- about this shark? What?
- 2092
- 01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:40,807
- No, I'm really asking,
- because it looks exactly
- 2093
- 01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:42,962
- like the other 38 sharks to me.
- 2094
- 01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:44,963
- Let me see it with the cue.
- From the profile.
- 2095
- 01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:46,884
- This is Cue 92-B.
- 2096
- 01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:48,883
- This is a profile here.
- 2097
- 01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:51,136
- And this is what
- it looks like from the back.
- 2098
- 01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:54,881
- And one more thing. It eats Pentium
- notebooks as a light snack.
- 2099
- 01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:57,724
- This is the shark.
- 2100
- 01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:00,241
- I really like it.
- 2101
- 01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:02,696
- Nobody gets it right
- the first time,
- 2102
- 01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,326
- but I should have been shown
- this shark 15, 20 fish ago.
- 2103
- 01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:06,481
- You probably were.
- 2104
- 01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:07,766
- Lock it in.
- 2105
- 01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:08,921
- 10 minutes.
- 2106
- 01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:12,847
- He killed himself by taking a bite
- of a poison apple. Alan Turing.
- 2107
- 01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:17,201
- Yeah. There should be
- statues of that man.
- 2108
- 01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,648
- His name should be on the
- lips of schoolchildren.
- 2109
- 01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:21,927
- The rainbow flag Apple
- with a bite taken out.
- 2110
- 01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:23,365
- That's where it came from?
- 2111
- 01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:26,171
- No, we picked it off a list
- of friendly-sounding words.
- 2112
- 01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:29,329
- But wouldn't it be great if that
- had been the story behind it?
- 2113
- 01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:30,526
- Steve.
- 2114
- 01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:32,600
- Kinda liked the last shark.
- 2115
- 01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:33,886
- Fuck you.
- 2116
- 01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:36,085
- I wanted to ask you a favor.
- 2117
- 01:35:36,440 --> 01:35:37,851
- My friend, a long time ago,
- 2118
- 01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,566
- you asked me a favor before a
- product launch, and I said no.
- 2119
- 01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:42,280
- - You wanted me to acknowledge.
- - Hang on.
- 2120
- 01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:44,204
- If you're about to say
- you were wrong,
- 2121
- 01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:46,521
- I want to prepare
- this journalist.
- 2122
- 01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:48,411
- I was 100% right.
- 2123
- 01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:51,006
- And you were
- spectacularly wrong.
- 2124
- 01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,168
- But I still owe you a
- favor, so name it.
- 2125
- 01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:55,601
- Steve.
- 2126
- 01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:57,136
- But it can't be about acknowledging
- the Apple II team.
- 2127
- 01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:58,525
- Acknowledge the Apple II team.
- 2128
- 01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:01,401
- How about in private?
- 2129
- 01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:03,130
- - No. No.
- - Is this a prank?
- 2130
- 01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:05,720
- Because I'm trying to remember
- that a 300 megahertz G3 chip...
- 2131
- 01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:07,489
- Just the top guys.
- 2132
- 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:10,881
- Steve.
- 2133
- 01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:16,529
- - Excuse me, okay?
- - Yep.
- 2134
- 01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:17,840
- One second.
- 2135
- 01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,206
- She said she'd rather not.
- 2136
- 01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:25,646
- What do you mean?
- 2137
- 01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:27,330
- She's sitting with her friends,
- 2138
- 01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:29,164
- and she said she'd
- rather not come back.
- 2139
- 01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:30,367
- Okay. Tell her...
- 2140
- 01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:31,720
- Take her aside, I don't want to
- 2141
- 01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:33,096
- embarrass her
- in front of her friends,
- 2142
- 01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:35,566
- but tell her I just scared
- the shit out of Andy,
- 2143
- 01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:37,961
- and this time, nobody's
- paying her fucking...
- 2144
- 01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,089
- - All right.
- - Don't say that.
- 2145
- 01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:43,766
- But do your thing, where
- you sound old and wise
- 2146
- 01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:46,924
- because of the broad, tragic
- European canvas of your life.
- 2147
- 01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:49,845
- You know I wasn't born in a
- 19th century shtetl, right?
- 2148
- 01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:51,968
- Please tell her it's important.
- 2149
- 01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,368
- - Everything all right?
- - Yeah.
- 2150
- 01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:56,171
- There are people
- around here, man,
- 2151
- 01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:57,560
- including a member of the press.
- 2152
- 01:36:57,600 --> 01:36:58,601
- I see him.
- 2153
- 01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:01,841
- Woz.
- 2154
- 01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,281
- Just the top guys, the ones
- who are getting laid off.
- 2155
- 01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:12,086
- Listen, okay? Last year, Apple
- lost one billion dollars.
- 2156
- 01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:14,929
- I don't even know
- how that's possible.
- 2157
- 01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:17,606
- You were less than 90 days
- from being insolvent.
- 2158
- 01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:20,763
- I had three different accountants
- try to explain it to me.
- 2159
- 01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,242
- The whole place has
- to be streamlined.
- 2160
- 01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:25,416
- Start with two of the accountants.
- I started with the...
- 2161
- 01:37:25,440 --> 01:37:26,930
- Joel, could you come off-stage?
- 2162
- 01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:29,080
- We're going to go backstage.
- Leave him right there.
- 2163
- 01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:33,448
- I started with the Apple II team
- because we don't make that anymore.
- 2164
- 01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:35,210
- Just acknowledge the top guys.
- 2165
- 01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:37,250
- Have a mimosa and relax.
- 2166
- 01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:39,563
- You will not blow me off
- right now, Steve!
- 2167
- 01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:40,846
- The top guys...
- 2168
- 01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:42,530
- There are no top guys.
- All right?
- 2169
- 01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:44,762
- On the Apple II team,
- there are no top guys.
- 2170
- 01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:46,086
- They're B players.
- 2171
- 01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:48,527
- And B players discourage
- the A players.
- 2172
- 01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:50,409
- And I want A players
- at Apple, and not Dell.
- 2173
- 01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:52,616
- They're not B players, and
- I'm a better judge of that!
- 2174
- 01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:56,122
- Less than 90 days
- from insolvency.
- 2175
- 01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:59,000
- In part, because somebody thought
- the Newton wasn't a box of garbage.
- 2176
- 01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:00,616
- Joel, could you come off stage please?
- Leave him!
- 2177
- 01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:01,687
- I'm talking about...
- 2178
- 01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:04,570
- You guys designed and shipped a little
- box of garbage while I was gone.
- 2179
- 01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:06,449
- I'm talking about the Apple II!
- 2180
- 01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:09,171
- Which is not just a crucial
- part of this company's history,
- 2181
- 01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:11,811
- it is a crucial part of the
- history of personal computing!
- 2182
- 01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:13,325
- For a time.
- 2183
- 01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:16,211
- The least you can do, if you're
- going to downsize these people...
- 2184
- 01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:17,736
- They're going to live in the
- biggest houses of anyone
- 2185
- 01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:19,091
- on the unemployment line.
- 2186
- 01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:20,200
- Is to acknowledge them!
- 2187
- 01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:23,490
- Acknowledge them and the
- Apple II during this launch!
- 2188
- 01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:25,170
- This is a new animal.
- 2189
- 01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:27,328
- This whole place
- was built by the Apple II.
- 2190
- 01:38:27,440 --> 01:38:28,851
- You were built by the Apple II.
- 2191
- 01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:30,411
- As a matter of fact,
- I was destroyed
- 2192
- 01:38:30,480 --> 01:38:31,925
- by the Apple II
- and its open system,
- 2193
- 01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:36,528
- so that hackers and hobbyists could
- build ham radios, or something!
- 2194
- 01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:39,124
- And then,
- it nearly destroyed Apple
- 2195
- 01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,004
- when you spent
- all your money on it
- 2196
- 01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:43,566
- and developed a grand total
- of no new products.
- 2197
- 01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:46,330
- The Newton.
- The little box of garbage.
- 2198
- 01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:48,090
- You guys came up
- with the Newton.
- 2199
- 01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:50,447
- You, like,
- want people to know that?
- 2200
- 01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:55,444
- This is a product launch,
- not a luncheon.
- 2201
- 01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,016
- And the last thing I want to
- do is connect the iMac to...
- 2202
- 01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:01,010
- To the only successful product
- that this company has ever made.
- 2203
- 01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:04,283
- I'm sorry to be blunt, but
- that happens to be the truth.
- 2204
- 01:39:04,440 --> 01:39:07,205
- The Lisa was a failure.
- The Macintosh was a failure.
- 2205
- 01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:10,368
- I don't like talking like this,
- 2206
- 01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:14,161
- but I am tired of being Ringo
- when I know I was John.
- 2207
- 01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:16,526
- Everybody loves Ringo.
- 2208
- 01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:19,171
- And I'm tired of
- being patronized by you!
- 2209
- 01:39:21,480 --> 01:39:24,086
- You think John became John
- by winning a raffle, Woz?
- 2210
- 01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:25,650
- You think he tricked somebody,
- 2211
- 01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:27,848
- or hit George Harrison
- over the head?
- 2212
- 01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:29,889
- He was John because he was John.
- 2213
- 01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:32,691
- He was John because he
- wrote Ticket to Ride.
- 2214
- 01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:34,330
- And I wrote the Apple II.
- 2215
- 01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:35,401
- Everybody?
- 2216
- 01:39:35,440 --> 01:39:37,568
- I want to clear the auditorium.
- Nobody moves!
- 2217
- 01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:42,721
- You made a beautiful board
- which, by the way,
- 2218
- 01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:43,936
- you were willing to
- give out for free,
- 2219
- 01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,167
- so don't tell me
- how you built Apple.
- 2220
- 01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:48,776
- If it weren't for me, you'd be the
- easiest "A" at Homestead High School.
- 2221
- 01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:52,964
- These people live and die by your
- praise, so here's your chance.
- 2222
- 01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:55,600
- Acknowledge that
- something good happened
- 2223
- 01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:57,842
- that you weren't
- in the room for.
- 2224
- 01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:03,362
- - No.
- - Steve!
- 2225
- 01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:04,681
- Do it.
- 2226
- 01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:07,648
- It's right. It's...
- 2227
- 01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:11,170
- It's right.
- 2228
- 01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:13,250
- Sorry, but no.
- 2229
- 01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:15,762
- Then let me put it another way.
- 2230
- 01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:19,041
- I don't think there's a man
- who's done more
- 2231
- 01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:21,168
- to advance the
- democratization that comes
- 2232
- 01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:23,322
- with personal computing
- than I have,
- 2233
- 01:40:23,440 --> 01:40:26,330
- but you've never had any respect for me.
- Now why is that?
- 2234
- 01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,489
- I'd at least consider
- the possibility
- 2235
- 01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:31,403
- that it's because you've
- never had any for me.
- 2236
- 01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:35,603
- What the hell is going on here?
- 2237
- 01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:37,121
- Nothing.
- 2238
- 01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:38,845
- Thank you for your time.
- 2239
- 01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:44,164
- - It's done.
- - She's coming back.
- 2240
- 01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:48,089
- You came a half-inch from putting
- this company out of business.
- 2241
- 01:40:49,480 --> 01:40:51,209
- Now, who do I see about that?
- 2242
- 01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:55,361
- I'm letting you keep your job.
- 2243
- 01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:57,131
- You get a pass.
- 2244
- 01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:01,725
- You know,
- when people used to ask me
- 2245
- 01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,121
- what the difference was
- between me and Steve Jobs,
- 2246
- 01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:07,329
- I would say Steve
- was the big-picture guy
- 2247
- 01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:09,129
- and I liked a solid workbench.
- 2248
- 01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:12,250
- When people ask me what the
- difference is now, I say
- 2249
- 01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:13,731
- Steve's an asshole.
- 2250
- 01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:16,736
- Your products are better
- than you are, brother.
- 2251
- 01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:18,888
- That's the idea, "brother."
- 2252
- 01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:22,363
- And knowing that,
- that's the difference.
- 2253
- 01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:25,481
- It's not binary.
- 2254
- 01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:29,602
- You can be decent and gifted
- at the same time.
- 2255
- 01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:53,085
- He didn't mean it.
- 2256
- 01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:55,130
- Yeah, he did.
- 2257
- 01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:00,043
- He's a temperamental guy.
- 2258
- 01:42:01,440 --> 01:42:02,851
- No, he's not.
- 2259
- 01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:10,130
- It's like, five minutes
- before every launch,
- 2260
- 01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:11,850
- everyone goes to a bar,
- gets drunk,
- 2261
- 01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:13,888
- and tells me
- what they really think.
- 2262
- 01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:16,889
- She's coming
- to your dressing room.
- 2263
- 01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,321
- I told you to make
- things all right with Lisa.
- 2264
- 01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:33,609
- I didn't say you had to settle
- every blood feud you have.
- 2265
- 01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:37,321
- The last time blood feuds weren't
- settled, I lost the cover of Time.
- 2266
- 01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:39,456
- Though, for the life of me,
- I still don't know
- 2267
- 01:42:39,480 --> 01:42:41,240
- what the hell Dan Kottke
- was mad at me about.
- 2268
- 01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,009
- Kottke didn't lose you
- the cover of Time.
- 2269
- 01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:44,161
- Of course he did.
- 2270
- 01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:46,766
- Would you like me to demonstrate
- your capacity to be wrong
- 2271
- 01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:48,016
- when you're certain
- you're right?
- 2272
- 01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:50,725
- Dan Kottke told Time magazine
- that I was denying...
- 2273
- 01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:52,290
- Do you remember the cover?
- 2274
- 01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:53,361
- Of Time?
- 2275
- 01:42:53,440 --> 01:42:54,566
- - Yes.
- - Yes.
- 2276
- 01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:55,687
- What was it?
- 2277
- 01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:56,966
- What are you talking about?
- 2278
- 01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:58,121
- What was on the cover?
- 2279
- 01:42:58,200 --> 01:42:59,201
- A computer.
- 2280
- 01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:00,720
- No, it was a sculpture
- of a computer.
- 2281
- 01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:03,290
- It was a sculpture.
- 2282
- 01:43:05,440 --> 01:43:08,410
- Time would have had to have
- commissioned it months in advance.
- 2283
- 01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:10,927
- You were never in the
- conversation for Man of the Year.
- 2284
- 01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:12,565
- Nobody lost you anything.
- 2285
- 01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:16,289
- So, what else
- are you sure about?
- 2286
- 01:43:17,440 --> 01:43:19,602
- I don't know how
- I could've missed that.
- 2287
- 01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:21,606
- Reality distortion.
- 2288
- 01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:23,609
- - No, seriously.
- - Seriously.
- 2289
- 01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,287
- Don't try to win
- an argument with Lisa.
- 2290
- 01:43:26,440 --> 01:43:27,726
- Just say you were wrong.
- 2291
- 01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:31,246
- Come on in, honey!
- 2292
- 01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:33,800
- It's not "honey."
- 2293
- 01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:37,447
- John! Get in, get in.
- Get out of the hall.
- 2294
- 01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:39,841
- I was taken in the side entrance.
- I'll go out the same way.
- 2295
- 01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:41,968
- No one will see me.
- How are you, Joanna?
- 2296
- 01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:45,602
- I'm good, John. I'm
- just surprised to see you.
- 2297
- 01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:48,286
- Everyone here really appreciates
- the quote you gave to Forbes.
- 2298
- 01:43:48,440 --> 01:43:49,771
- You didn't have to do that.
- 2299
- 01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:51,206
- My pleasure.
- 2300
- 01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:54,456
- If you want, I can slip you in
- the back once the house lights go out.
- 2301
- 01:43:54,480 --> 01:43:57,006
- I'm just here
- to say "good luck." Okay.
- 2302
- 01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:00,530
- You just have
- a couple of minutes.
- 2303
- 01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:01,601
- Would you try to find...
- 2304
- 01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:02,681
- Yeah.
- 2305
- 01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:09,210
- You're a good man, John.
- 2306
- 01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:23,842
- So, I brought you a present.
- 2307
- 01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:26,121
- The Newton.
- 2308
- 01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,216
- If you don't take it out of the
- box, you'll be able to sell it.
- 2309
- 01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:31,163
- Which is more than I can say.
- 2310
- 01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:33,845
- Everything all right there?
- 2311
- 01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:36,368
- - What? No.
- - Yeah.
- 2312
- 01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:39,490
- Just something
- Joanna pointed out to me.
- 2313
- 01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:41,529
- I missed something
- so obvious about...
- 2314
- 01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:44,161
- It doesn't matter.
- 2315
- 01:44:46,480 --> 01:44:49,962
- Look, Wall Street's gonna sit back
- and wait to see how you do as CEO,
- 2316
- 01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:52,964
- so don't let any fluctuation bother
- you for the first 12 months.
- 2317
- 01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:54,883
- Day traders are gonna respond.
- 2318
- 01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:57,725
- I don't need to school you.
- 2319
- 01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:02,000
- Is this your way of telling me I
- shouldn't have killed the Newton?
- 2320
- 01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:05,729
- The most efficient animal on
- the planet is the condor.
- 2321
- 01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:08,931
- The most inefficient animals
- on the planet are humans.
- 2322
- 01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:11,771
- Well, you shouldn't
- have killed it for spite.
- 2323
- 01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:13,723
- That's bad business.
- Don't do that.
- 2324
- 01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:19,728
- But a human with a bicycle becomes
- the most efficient animal.
- 2325
- 01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:22,243
- And the right computer...
- 2326
- 01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:25,449
- A friendly, easy computer
- that isn't an eyesore,
- 2327
- 01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:29,081
- but rather sits on your desk with
- the beauty of a tensor lamp,
- 2328
- 01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:33,129
- the right computer will be
- a bicycle for the mind.
- 2329
- 01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:36,406
- Do you like it?
- 2330
- 01:45:37,440 --> 01:45:39,090
- I was given back.
- 2331
- 01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:43,885
- And what if, instead of it
- being in the right hands,
- 2332
- 01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:46,042
- it was in everyone's hands?
- 2333
- 01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,089
- Everyone in the world.
- 2334
- 01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:52,730
- We'd be talking about the most
- tectonic shift in the status quo since...
- 2335
- 01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:53,801
- Ever.
- 2336
- 01:45:54,440 --> 01:45:57,016
- I don't know why you've always been
- interested in my adoption history,
- 2337
- 01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:01,011
- but you said, it's not like someone
- looked at me and gave me back.
- 2338
- 01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:02,800
- But that is what happened.
- 2339
- 01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:05,281
- You're telling me
- you have the right computer?
- 2340
- 01:46:06,440 --> 01:46:07,601
- It's called Macintosh.
- 2341
- 01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:10,968
- A lawyer couple
- adopted me first,
- 2342
- 01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,168
- then gave me back after a month.
- 2343
- 01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:15,490
- They changed their mind.
- 2344
- 01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:20,327
- Then my parents adopted me.
- 2345
- 01:46:20,440 --> 01:46:23,205
- My biological mother had
- stipulated that whoever took me
- 2346
- 01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:26,489
- had to be college-educated,
- wealthy, and Catholic.
- 2347
- 01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:29,167
- Paul and Clara Jobs
- were none of those things,
- 2348
- 01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:33,450
- so my biological mother wouldn't
- sign the adoption papers.
- 2349
- 01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:35,041
- What happened?
- 2350
- 01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:37,805
- There was a legal battle
- that went on for a while.
- 2351
- 01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:41,330
- My mother said she refused to
- love me for the first year.
- 2352
- 01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:43,640
- You know, in case
- they had to give me back.
- 2353
- 01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,561
- You can't refuse to
- love someone, Steve.
- 2354
- 01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:49,041
- Yeah, it turns out you can.
- 2355
- 01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:51,684
- What the hell can
- a one-month-old do
- 2356
- 01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:53,600
- that's so bad that his
- parents give him back?
- 2357
- 01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:56,564
- There's nothing
- a one-month-old can do.
- 2358
- 01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:59,809
- Have you ever thought about trying
- to find your biological father?
- 2359
- 01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:01,644
- I've met my biological father.
- 2360
- 01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:03,006
- For that matter, so have you.
- 2361
- 01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:07,966
- It's called Macintosh.
- 2362
- 01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:09,451
- Mr. Steve Jobs!
- 2363
- 01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:11,761
- Jandali.
- Say hello to John Sculley.
- 2364
- 01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:13,205
- Jandali owns the place,
- 2365
- 01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:15,765
- and John's the CEO of Pepsi,
- 2366
- 01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:17,496
- but I'm trying to get him
- to move to Cupertino.
- 2367
- 01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:19,010
- Put a dent in the universe.
- 2368
- 01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:20,920
- You eat vegan as well?
- 2369
- 01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:22,561
- You're kidding me.
- 2370
- 01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:23,881
- No, I'll eat anything.
- 2371
- 01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:25,200
- Why don't you start us off with
- 2372
- 01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,527
- the Mediterranean lettuce
- salad with purslane, mint...
- 2373
- 01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:29,525
- My sister found him.
- 2374
- 01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:32,921
- Does he know?
- 2375
- 01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:34,445
- No. In fact, he bragged to Mona
- 2376
- 01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:36,887
- that Steve Jobs comes in the
- restaurant all the time.
- 2377
- 01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:39,682
- - You don't want to...
- - No.
- 2378
- 01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:42,362
- Don't you think
- you should talk to him?
- 2379
- 01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:46,362
- He'd probably find
- a reason to sue me.
- 2380
- 01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:48,891
- Oh, Steve...
- 2381
- 01:47:49,560 --> 01:47:52,291
- John, if you're here
- about your legacy,
- 2382
- 01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:54,289
- you need to form
- a line behind Wozniak.
- 2383
- 01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:58,840
- Wozniak's gonna be fine.
- I'm the guy who fired Steve Jobs.
- 2384
- 01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:02,889
- "Rich, college-educated,
- and Catholic."
- 2385
- 01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:06,567
- Steve, it's time.
- 2386
- 01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:12,089
- I've gotta go.
- 2387
- 01:48:15,440 --> 01:48:18,603
- - Did I do this?
- - Screw it up?
- 2388
- 01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:23,809
- Let's let it go now.
- 2389
- 01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:27,241
- It has to be time.
- 2390
- 01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:34,247
- Come be our CEO.
- 2391
- 01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:37,280
- Yeah, okay.
- 2392
- 01:48:47,440 --> 01:48:49,522
- It was the stylus, John.
- 2393
- 01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:50,600
- What?
- 2394
- 01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:52,961
- I killed the Newton
- because of the stylus.
- 2395
- 01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:54,926
- If you're holding a stylus,
- 2396
- 01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:57,400
- you can't use the other five
- that are attached to your wrist.
- 2397
- 01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:02,811
- Things we could have
- done together.
- 2398
- 01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:10,329
- God, the things
- we could've done.
- 2399
- 01:49:27,480 --> 01:49:28,845
- I'm paying your tuition.
- 2400
- 01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:31,168
- Are you crazy? Of course
- I'm paying your tuition.
- 2401
- 01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:34,802
- I must have misunderstood you when you
- said you weren't paying my tuition.
- 2402
- 01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:37,440
- You and your mom selling the
- house was a hostile thing to do.
- 2403
- 01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:39,010
- She needed the money.
- 2404
- 01:49:39,480 --> 01:49:40,811
- She always needs the money.
- 2405
- 01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:44,164
- She needs a doctor.
- She has a sinus infection.
- 2406
- 01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:48,447
- She's had the same
- sinus infection since 1988.
- 2407
- 01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,890
- I'm gonna take care of my mother.
- I'm sorry if that angers you.
- 2408
- 01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:53,849
- It does anger me,
- because you're a kid
- 2409
- 01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:56,088
- and it's not your job
- to take care of your mother.
- 2410
- 01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:57,844
- Is that how yours died?
- 2411
- 01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:01,409
- Guys, um, step away, please.
- Give them some room.
- 2412
- 01:50:02,480 --> 01:50:06,690
- When your mom is 90 and can't feed
- herself, you can take care of her.
- 2413
- 01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:11,368
- But right now, she's 45, perfectly
- healthy, and can't feed herself.
- 2414
- 01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:15,522
- You're supposed to work hard at
- school and be 19, and that's it.
- 2415
- 01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:17,176
- I'll take care of your mother.
- 2416
- 01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:18,531
- Well, keep up the good work.
- 2417
- 01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:20,927
- What the hell do you want from me?
- I was sent for.
- 2418
- 01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:23,441
- I bought her
- a house for $400,000.
- 2419
- 01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:25,329
- It's worth twice
- that much today!
- 2420
- 01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:27,767
- She sold it for two magic
- rocks and a bowl of soup.
- 2421
- 01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:29,006
- It was her house.
- 2422
- 01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:30,844
- She used that money
- to travel through Europe.
- 2423
- 01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:32,285
- Money which you
- make her beg for.
- 2424
- 01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:34,727
- - Steve...
- - Don't even start with that.
- 2425
- 01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:37,168
- Going to Andy
- and asking for the money?
- 2426
- 01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:38,536
- That was so off-the-charts
- over the line...
- 2427
- 01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:39,607
- I did not do that.
- 2428
- 01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:40,841
- Andy came to me.
- 2429
- 01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:44,289
- Everybody have an opinion
- on this?
- 2430
- 01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:48,125
- I'm sorry, guys. In 30 seconds,
- you're going to be late.
- 2431
- 01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:50,248
- She spends
- the money on antiques,
- 2432
- 01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:52,641
- and then sells them for
- a fraction of what she paid.
- 2433
- 01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:55,007
- And she does it with money
- I gave to her for you!
- 2434
- 01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:56,081
- Steve...
- 2435
- 01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:57,840
- You came to me hysterical
- when you were 13,
- 2436
- 01:50:57,920 --> 01:50:59,096
- asking if you could
- live with me...
- 2437
- 01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:00,326
- I was not hysterical.
- 2438
- 01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:01,896
- Because your mom was
- screaming at you every day.
- 2439
- 01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:03,922
- And 13 was the second
- time I asked you.
- 2440
- 01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:05,696
- The stress of her life
- as a spiritual healer.
- 2441
- 01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:09,520
- I don't believe I said you're a bad guy.
- But if I did, I am sorry.
- 2442
- 01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:15,603
- Something happened
- to you at school.
- 2443
- 01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:20,647
- Some first semester core class that
- all freshmen are required to take...
- 2444
- 01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:22,086
- I read Time.
- 2445
- 01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:23,601
- What?
- 2446
- 01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:26,131
- I have Internet access
- at school.
- 2447
- 01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:27,446
- I read an old copy of Time,
- 2448
- 01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:30,649
- and I asked my mom some questions
- about my family history.
- 2449
- 01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:35,329
- That was... Time wrote
- a mangled piece of journal.
- 2450
- 01:51:35,440 --> 01:51:36,736
- You were never
- supposed to read that.
- 2451
- 01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:38,842
- I had two different
- Harvard statisticians
- 2452
- 01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:40,256
- try to reverse-engineer
- the equation
- 2453
- 01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:43,329
- that you came up with
- to prove that 28%
- 2454
- 01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:45,289
- of American men
- could be my father!
- 2455
- 01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:46,801
- Honey, I...
- 2456
- 01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:48,760
- You know, my mother might
- be a troubled woman,
- 2457
- 01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:50,290
- but what's your excuse?
- 2458
- 01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:53,886
- That's why I'm not impressed
- with your story, Dad!
- 2459
- 01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:56,201
- It's that you knew
- what I was going through,
- 2460
- 01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:57,964
- and you didn't do
- anything about it.
- 2461
- 01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:01,766
- And that makes you
- an unconscionable coward.
- 2462
- 01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:05,296
- And not for nothing, but
- "think" is a verb, all right?
- 2463
- 01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:06,480
- Making "different" an adverb.
- 2464
- 01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:08,568
- You're asking people
- to think differently,
- 2465
- 01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:11,371
- and you can talk about the
- Bauhaus movement and Braun
- 2466
- 01:52:11,480 --> 01:52:14,563
- and "Simplicity is sophistication,"
- and Issey Miyake uniforms,
- 2467
- 01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:17,763
- and Bob Dylan lyrics all
- you want, but that thing
- 2468
- 01:52:18,480 --> 01:52:21,211
- looks like Judy Jetson's
- Easy-Bake oven.
- 2469
- 01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:41,167
- Hey!
- 2470
- 01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:43,524
- Oh, gee,
- you're gonna start late.
- 2471
- 01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:45,246
- You know what "Lisa" stood for?
- 2472
- 01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:46,361
- What?
- 2473
- 01:52:46,480 --> 01:52:48,376
- The computer. The Lisa. Do
- you know what it stood for?
- 2474
- 01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:51,563
- I'm sorry I said that about the iMac.
- It's not what I really think.
- 2475
- 01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:54,166
- Behind my back, at the office,
- you know what it stood for?
- 2476
- 01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:57,330
- Local Integrated
- System Architecture.
- 2477
- 01:52:57,400 --> 01:53:00,290
- I was five!
- Why couldn't you just lie?
- 2478
- 01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:01,361
- I did.
- 2479
- 01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:04,563
- Of course it was named
- after you.
- 2480
- 01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:08,681
- "Local Integrated System Architecture"
- doesn't even mean anything.
- 2481
- 01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:12,525
- Why'd you say it wasn't
- all those years?
- 2482
- 01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:16,371
- I honestly don't know.
- 2483
- 01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:21,202
- Why'd you say
- you aren't my father?
- 2484
- 01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:26,689
- I'm poorly made.
- 2485
- 01:53:34,440 --> 01:53:36,249
- It's after 9:00,
- you're gonna be late.
- 2486
- 01:53:36,320 --> 01:53:37,731
- I don't care.
- 2487
- 01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:45,283
- You're writing for the Crimson.
- What?
- 2488
- 01:53:45,440 --> 01:53:47,602
- The Apple chapter of the
- Harvard Alumni Association
- 2489
- 01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:49,240
- tells me you're writing
- for the Crimson.
- 2490
- 01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:51,722
- Oh, yeah,
- a little bit. Essays...
- 2491
- 01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:53,926
- I'd like to read one.
- 2492
- 01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:55,807
- Sure.
- 2493
- 01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:58,016
- No, I mean now. I'd like to
- read one of your essays now.
- 2494
- 01:53:58,040 --> 01:54:00,122
- Come on,
- you've got to go on stage.
- 2495
- 01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:05,050
- The iMac will not be launched until
- you give me one of your essays,
- 2496
- 01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:08,044
- so the world is waiting for you.
- 2497
- 01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:17,887
- I'm really sorry, guys!
- 2498
- 01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:19,721
- Good luck.
- 2499
- 01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:34,610
- Gonna put music in your pocket.
- 2500
- 01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:35,921
- What?
- 2501
- 01:54:38,440 --> 01:54:42,445
- 100 songs.
- 1,000 songs. 500 songs.
- 2502
- 01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:46,770
- Somewhere between 500 and 1,000
- songs, right in your pocket,
- 2503
- 01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:50,322
- because I can't stand looking at
- that inexplicable Walkman anymore.
- 2504
- 01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:52,642
- You're carrying around a brick
- playing a cassette tape.
- 2505
- 01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:54,445
- We're not savages.
- 2506
- 01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:56,966
- So I'm gonna put
- 1,000 songs in your pocket.
- 2507
- 01:54:57,640 --> 01:54:58,926
- You can do that?
- 2508
- 01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:00,161
- Mmm-hmm.
- 2509
- 01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:12,649
- You want to watch
- from backstage?
- 2510
- 01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:15,847
- Okay.
- 2511
- 01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:34,001
- Go, Cue 1.
- 2512
- 01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:34,731
- You remember that painting
- you did on the original Mac?
- 2513
- 01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:38,601
- I do.
- 2514
- 01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:43,606
- Ladies and gentlemen,
- 2515
- 01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:46,888
- Steve Jobs.
- 2516
- 01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:28,041
- Woz.
- 2517
- 01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:32,966
- Whoo!
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