2000 CSM

Comments and criticism welcome!

**Biggest Question**: Alpha Legion VS Iron Warriors. I've reviewed stratagems and such for both but I'm honestly not sure.  Iron Warriors are more aggressive and dunk on all the "stealthy" and camo-cloaks going around, and have better kill-oriented stratagems. However, I feel that Alpha Legion's movement abilities are really strong. Re-deploying 3 units (WL trait), once per game teleport your WL beside infantry (WL trait), dropping a unit 9" away from an enemy, etc..
 

**++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [42 PL, -1CP, 725pts] ++**

 

**+ No Force Org Slot +**

 

**Legion:** The Flawless Host

 

**Specialist Detachment [-1CP]:** Soulforged Pack

 

**+ HQ +**

 

**Lord Discordant on Helstalker [9 PL, 170pts]:** Baleflamer, Intoxicating Elixir, Mark of Slaanesh, Ultimate Confidence, Warlord


. **Helstalker:** Techno-virus injector

 

**Master of Possession [5 PL, 88pts]:** Cursed Earth, Force stave, Infernal Power, Mark of Slaanesh

 

**+ Heavy Support +**

 

**Maulerfiend [7 PL, 122pts]:** Lasher tendrils, Mark of Slaanesh

 

**Venomcrawler [7 PL, 115pts]:** Mark of Slaanesh

 

**Venomcrawler [7 PL, 115pts]:** Mark of Slaanesh

 

**Venomcrawler [7 PL, 115pts]:** Mark of Slaanesh

 

**++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [81 PL, 1,275pts] ++**

 

**+ No Force Org Slot +**

 

**Legion:** Iron Warriors

 

**+ HQ +**

 

**Chaos Lord in Terminator Armour [6 PL, 98pts]:** Chainaxe, Combi-bolter, Mark of Khorne

 

**Sorcerer with Jump Pack [7 PL, 125pts]:** Force sword, No Chaos Mark, Power fist, Prescience, Warptime

 

**+ Troops +**

 

**Chaos Cultists [9 PL, 112pts]:** No Chaos Mark


. **27x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun**

. **Cultist Champion:** Autogun

 

**Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 55pts]:** No Chaos Mark


. **Aspiring Champion:** Bolt pistol, Boltgun

. **4x Marine w/ Boltgun**

 

**Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 55pts]:** No Chaos Mark


. **Aspiring Champion:** Bolt pistol, Boltgun

. **4x Marine w/ Boltgun**

 

**+ Elites +**

 

**Chaos Terminators [10 PL, 140pts]:** Icon of Wrath, Mark of Khorne


. **Chaos Terminator Champion:** Chainaxe, Combi-bolter

. **Terminator:** Chainaxe, Combi-bolter

. **Terminator:** Chainaxe, Combi-bolter

. **Terminator:** Chainaxe, Combi-bolter

. **Terminator:** Chainaxe, Combi-bolter

 

**+ Heavy Support +**

 

**Havocs [7 PL, 116pts]:** Mark of Slaanesh


. **Aspiring Champion:** Chainsword, Flamer

. **4x Havoc w/ heavy bolter:** 4x Heavy bolter

 

**Hellforged Leviathan Dreadnought [16 PL, 289pts]:** 2x Butcher cannon array, 2x Hellflamer, No Chaos Mark

 

**Obliterators [18 PL, 285pts]:** Mark of Slaanesh, 3x Obliterator

 

**++ Total: [123 PL, -1CP, 2,000pts] ++**

 

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**Notes:**

- Disco Lord set up to kill knight stat'd things (Knights are as rampant in the meta, so didn't go with the triple stack). Sorcerer can Warptime for double advance and 1CP Soulforged strat lets him advance and charge.
- Venomcrawlers got cheaper. They're not the most effective on their own but they eat tons of bullets at T7 10W 5++ (4++ with the MoP buff). They go to a 3+ WS/BS if the Disco doesn't charge off first turn and can babysit for a turn. MoP can give reroll 1s with buff too.
- Maulerfiend also got a reduction and shares many of the same include reasons as the Venomcrawlers. Melee only but hits like a truck, solid at taking down 5T/6T with tendrils and just slaps the shit out of things with the fist.
- Havocs chosen because in the previous version of the list I found myself unable to clear infantry out of the way by the time my Venomcrawlers and stuff could get in. Not enough shots from the Venomcrawlers, waste of shots from the Levi. Would prefer Reaper chain cannons but couldn't find room, plus the 24" range can be tough.
* Terminators got notably cheaper, deepstrike, and with the Khorne Icon they have a reroll charge. Similar include to the Havocs but can be little more targeted.
- Leviathan is beefy with lots of guns. With the "Fire Frenzy" double tap stratagem it's really strong. First volley kills the target, second kills the next closest thing (unless I'm miss understanding how it works?)
- Terminator Lord drops with the Obliterators to improve consistency; in fringe cases I imagine not deep-striking them and setting up a castle with Havocs and Obliterators around the Lord.