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Retep998, Viper-7, flappy, and I discuss Reika and his mods

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  1. *Reika discussion starts at line 53
  2. *Random chatter (random messages, people joining, etc.) has been removed.
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  4. [20:50:01] <LoyLT> so did gregtech boost AESU from 2048 to 8192 ?
  5. [20:50:10] <LoyLT> and IDSU from 8192 to higher?
  6. [20:50:18] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> AESU is 8192
  7. [20:50:36] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> and IDSU is 8192
  8. [20:50:38] <+Viper-7> i still dont think greg goes about 8k
  9. [20:50:41] <+Viper-7> above*
  10. [20:50:53] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> there is a high energy charger
  11. [20:51:04] <Vidios> yay, the saturation bug was fixed with my death...
  12. [20:51:05] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> which is 131072 EU/t
  13. [20:51:06] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> aka tier 7
  14. [20:51:38] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> which is used to extract power from the zero point module in jungle temples
  15. [20:51:39] <LoyLT> what happened to 32k (T6) ?
  16. [20:51:56] <LoyLT> oooh ZPM'S!
  17. [20:52:16] <LoyLT> are the zpm's rechargable?
  18. [20:52:28] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> I don't actually know
  19. [20:52:39] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> they might be
  20. [20:52:45] <LoyLT> (cuz in stargate they never figured out how to recharge them... properly)
  21. [20:52:54] <+Viper-7> yeah they kinda shouldnt be
  22. [20:53:06] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> There's naquadah coins
  23. [20:53:07] <+Viper-7> they're drawing power from a pocket universe, putting power back in would be ... unpredictable
  24. [20:53:11] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> which are worth 32767 credits
  25. [20:53:59] <LoyLT> and this is all gregtech's work?
  26. [20:54:04] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> yes
  27. [20:54:25] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> He even added dogecoins :|
  28. [20:54:47] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> also gold covered chocolate coins >_>
  29. [20:55:00] <LoyLT> mmm
  30. [20:56:05] <+Viper-7> lol at the gt 1.7.2 info
  31. [20:56:12] Santa|AFK [~SatanicSa@71-38-136-113.ptld.qwest.net] is now known as SatanicSanta
  32. [20:56:13] <+Viper-7> specifically the "broken things"
  33. [20:56:40] <+Viper-7> adventure mode, no crafting recipes, unplayable on survival, fps issues, crashes and bugs everywhere, not all features and textures implemented
  34. [20:56:40] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> GT is such a huge mod, its going to take Greg a while to make it all not broken
  35. [20:56:51] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> You try making a mod as big as GT
  36. [20:56:57] <+Viper-7> lol
  37. [20:57:11] <+Viper-7> i work with far, far bigger systems :P
  38. [20:57:21] <+Viper-7> so no adventure, no survival, and fps is crap in creative
  39. [20:57:25] <+Viper-7> i'll pass for now thanks
  40. [20:57:36] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> well yeah, I'm not saying anyone should use it now
  41. [20:57:49] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> even I wouldn't use it now except to take a preview look of what is to come
  42. [20:58:13] <+Viper-7> Added ZPMs which are 2000000000 EU Tier 7 Single Use Batteries found randomly in the world
  43. [20:58:26] <+Viper-7> they're in 4.08
  44. [20:59:31] <+Viper-7> i love the changelog
  45. [20:59:32] <+Viper-7> Improved OreDict Handler, and no I did nothing on my MetaItems to improve the Startup time that drastically.
  46. [20:59:37] <+Viper-7> next version
  47. [20:59:38] <+Viper-7> Fixed Bug in my recent "optimization" causing a ton of Recipes to not be processed and therefore decreasing loading time.
  48. [20:59:53] <+Viper-7> oops :D
  49. [21:00:00] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> thats enough energy to fuse.... 119 iridium dust
  50. [21:00:03] <Vigaro> lol
  51. [21:01:07] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> its equivalent to 1157 solar panels working for 24 hours under constant sunlight
  52. [21:02:07] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> or 3 solar panels working 24/7 under constant sunlight for a year
  53. [21:02:08] <+Viper-7> or a reactorcraft fission reactor running for about an hour
  54. [21:02:17] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> xD
  55. [21:02:23] <+Viper-7> note fission not fusion
  56. [21:02:27] <+Viper-7> i mean the easy one :P
  57. [21:02:31] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> Thanks for reminding me to stay the fuck away from reactorcraft
  58. [21:02:39] <+Viper-7> i love it.
  59. [21:02:50] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> I actually love tedium
  60. [21:03:16] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> I hate rushing through stuff
  61. [21:03:29] <+Viper-7> the biggest challenge in the fission reactor is not in gathering the materials for it, nor creating the fuel, nor crafting the reactor, nor even using the power from it
  62. [21:03:34] <+Viper-7> its dealing with the nuclear waste.
  63. [21:03:45] <+Viper-7> which is kinda cool, to put a new spin on the whole power generation challenge
  64. [21:04:03] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> I always do a ridiculous amount of mining in Minecraft, so GregTech is the kind of mod that lets me do ridiculous mining for hours on end, and its actually useful
  65. [21:04:06] <SatanicSanta> well, isnt reactorcraft a rotarycraft addon?
  66. [21:04:12] <+Viper-7> yup
  67. [21:04:23] <SatanicSanta> yeah so TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny wouldnt use it in the first place :P
  68. [21:04:34] <+Viper-7> and rotarycraft uses craptons of power too
  69. [21:04:36] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> SatanicSanta: I thought that was obvious
  70. [21:05:13] Matakor [Matakor@c-24-126-49-131.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #FTB
  71. [21:05:13] MineBot [MineBot@minebot.services.esper.net] has set mode +v Matakor
  72. [21:05:14] <+Matakor> rawr
  73. [21:05:17] <SatanicSanta> rwar
  74. [21:05:20] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> the mod I am really looking forward to however is PFAA's other stuff
  75. [21:05:28] <+Viper-7> fuck. run.
  76. [21:05:29] <SatanicSanta> PFAA... that sounds familiar
  77. [21:05:36] <SatanicSanta> you may have told me about it at some point in #ftb-wiki
  78. [21:05:45] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> at the moment PFAA just has Geologica
  79. [21:05:54] <LoyLT> Parents Find Adult Art ?
  80. [21:06:02] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> which has the most realistic stone/ore system in all of mc modding
  81. [21:06:08] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> Per Fabrica Ad Astra
  82. [21:06:19] <LoyLT> never heard of it...
  83. [21:06:23] <LoyLT> adult art sounds better
  84. [21:06:29] Matakor throws a fireball at Viper-7
  85. [21:06:33] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> It a realistic science + engineering mod
  86. [21:06:38] <+Viper-7> Perfume From Alcoholics Anonymous
  87. [21:06:52] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> so you can actually learn shit about how stuff is done in real life
  88. [21:07:10] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> its everything I dreamed of
  89. [21:07:16] <+Viper-7> so why dont you like rotarycraft again?
  90. [21:07:45] <+Viper-7> coz its.. quite like that :P
  91. [21:07:46] <SatanicSanta> oooppppppppppppppppppp
  92. [21:07:52] <SatanicSanta> i believe is his reason
  93. [21:08:13] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> I like realism + tedium together
  94. [21:08:33] <LoyLT> have you ever tried stacking one-meter dirt blocks irl?
  95. [21:08:38] <+Viper-7> so "because he hasnt tried, beyond maybe making a few magnetostatic engines + extractors (before the nerfs) and screaming 'this is too easy!'"
  96. [21:08:44] <LoyLT> or even better, one meter cobblestone blocks?
  97. [21:08:58] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> No, I actually refuse to even try reika's stuff on ideological grounds
  98. [21:09:13] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> LoyLT: I'd love it if there was a mod that added realistic building
  99. [21:09:17] <+Viper-7> haha, such as?
  100. [21:09:18] <LoyLT> i was speaking of realism vs vanilla
  101. [21:09:22] <Vidios> Microblocks...
  102. [21:09:29] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> having to plan out your building and watching your guy take forever laying bricks and shit
  103. [21:09:33] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> which would be fucking awesome
  104. [21:09:42] <+Viper-7> pneumaticraft drones?
  105. [21:09:48] <SatanicSanta> last time i tried to use rotarycraft, simply having it installed dropped my fps by like 2x
  106. [21:10:03] <+Viper-7> SatanicSanta: you gotta change the sync interval setting in the config
  107. [21:10:17] <SatanicSanta> wut
  108. [21:10:38] <SatanicSanta> it also caused major inventory glitches, causing visually duped items and shit
  109. [21:11:27] <+Viper-7> or its hella spammy with useless packets
  110. [21:11:27] <+Viper-7> defaults to 20
  111. [21:11:27] <+Viper-7> even 1 is too high heh
  112. [21:11:27] <+Viper-7> but as low as it goes
  113. [21:11:34] <+Viper-7> TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny: it seems quite odd that you cant cite a single example of why you "refuse to even try reika's stuff on ideological grounds"
  114. [21:11:53] <+Viper-7> SatanicSanta: i've never seen anything like that from it
  115. [21:12:00] <SatanicSanta> it was in 1.5.2
  116. [21:12:37] <LoyLT> and let's not even speak of the realism of a cubic meter of sand to stay in cube form for very long, especially in the rain
  117. [21:12:38] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> LoyLT: Hey man, if there was a voxel game that offered industrial shit and science, but was realistic, I'd totally play it
  118. [21:12:38] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> but at the moment mods like TFC are the closest I can get
  119. [21:13:19] <SatanicSanta> LoyLT: unless you mxied it with petroleum ;)
  120. [21:13:27] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> I read his licensing shit, laughed, and refused to go near it ever again
  121. [21:13:27] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> :D
  122. [21:13:37] <SatanicSanta> his licensing shit?
  123. [21:13:38] <+Viper-7> half of rotarycraft and most of reactorycraft are basically copy & pasted real life formulas
  124. [21:13:42] SatanicSanta looks it up on reikasminecraft
  125. [21:13:46] <LoyLT> i don't remember that crafting recipe
  126. [21:13:53] <SatanicSanta> LoyLT: i mean irl
  127. [21:14:14] <SatanicSanta> granted, it turns black, but it stays fairly solid if you sift it well enough.
  128. [21:14:52] <SatanicSanta> TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny: which part of his license?
  129. [21:15:22] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> The part where he says if I tweak anything on my server using minetweaker, I have to obtain a majority approval from the players on my server
  130. [21:15:27] <LoyLT> might be better mixing it w/ white petro jelly instead
  131. [21:15:40] <+Viper-7> TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny: sure, and?
  132. [21:15:52] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> He's forcing me to run my server like a democracy
  133. [21:15:56] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> when it is clearly a dictatorship
  134. [21:16:09] <+Viper-7> actually, thats not how i read it at all
  135. [21:16:10] <SatanicSanta> Due to techtree dependency and "learning curve" concerns, RotaryCraft, ReactorCraft, and ElectriCraft must not be modified in any way, including disabling items and changing recipes. This includes the use of MineTweaker and other similar tools! In cases of instability, contact me to obtain a temporary exception.
  136. [21:16:16] <SatanicSanta> that?
  137. [21:16:25] <LoyLT> if you're being forced, i take it he's the dictator?
  138. [21:16:30] <+Viper-7> if its a *PUBLIC PACK* (so not just for you and friends, but world-wide released)
  139. [21:16:36] <+Viper-7> then you CANNOT use minetweaker on it AT ALL
  140. [21:16:42] <+Viper-7> because it will create a documentation nightmare for him
  141. [21:16:49] <+Viper-7> with some people having some recipes, and others having different ones
  142. [21:16:50] <SatanicSanta> >for him
  143. [21:16:52] <SatanicSanta> he doesnt have to do fuck
  144. [21:16:53] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> hold on, where the fuck did he say that
  145. [21:17:06] <SatanicSanta> TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny: Modpack permissions
  146. [21:17:07] <Shienth> Anyone know how to get slime to melt in a Smeltery?
  147. [21:17:08] <SatanicSanta> https://sites.google.com/site/reikasminecraft/licensing
  148. [21:17:11] <+Viper-7> i agree with that concept entirely
  149. [21:17:19] <+Viper-7> makes perfect sense
  150. [21:17:20] <SatanicSanta> Viper-7: which one?
  151. [21:17:26] <+Viper-7> if its a private pack you can do whatever the heck you want
  152. [21:17:27] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> >If adding the mod to an existing server, it must be made clear before the addition of the mod which features will be modified and/or removed
  153. [21:17:32] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> >The removal of the feature must be accepted by a majority of the players on the server
  154. [21:17:51] <+Viper-7> but if you're making a public pack and redistributing his mod, you'll need to use his recipes
  155. [21:17:58] <SatanicSanta> why?
  156. [21:18:05] <SatanicSanta> what's the logic behind that?
  157. [21:18:10] <SatanicSanta> it's MY pack, right?
  158. [21:18:18] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> For your PRIVATE server at that
  159. [21:18:28] <+Viper-7> no, i'm talking about for PUBLIC packs + servers
  160. [21:18:30] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> Semi-Private modpacks are those being used on a private (possibly whitelisted) server.
  161. [21:18:41] <+Viper-7> i'll get to your bit in a minute TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny :P
  162. [21:18:48] <SatanicSanta> Viper-7: i still dont see his reasoning
  163. [21:18:55] <+Viper-7> SatanicSanta: because if your pack modifies all the rotarycraft recipes to be something different, people will write wikis and such on how to craft stuff in your pack
  164. [21:19:15] <SatanicSanta> unless you say "assume all recipes have been altered"
  165. [21:19:18] <+Viper-7> so when people google 'magnetostatic engine' they find your wiki, and a recipe, which they try on their own server with regular rotarycraft, and it doesnt work
  166. [21:19:27] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> Stating that I must obtain majority approval before disabling something on MY server
  167. [21:19:38] <SatanicSanta> by that logic people are writing wiki articles using BnB or MF recipes, which they arent.
  168. [21:19:43] <+Viper-7> TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny: its a CYA
  169. [21:19:48] <+Viper-7> its there to cover his ass
  170. [21:19:52] <+Viper-7> so when a user complains to him
  171. [21:20:00] <+Viper-7> that the server he's donated $200 to
  172. [21:20:07] <+Viper-7> has changed rotarycraft to remove his favourite item
  173. [21:20:18] <+Viper-7> reika has some kind of recourse to take action about the matter
  174. [21:20:23] <SatanicSanta> that's their fault for being an idiot and donating $200 to a server
  175. [21:20:27] <+Viper-7> because he said in the terms the owner couldnt do that
  176. [21:20:30] <+Viper-7> he's protected end users.
  177. [21:20:33] <+Viper-7> and himself
  178. [21:20:45] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> If I'm a mod author and some idiot complains to me about it, that idiot can go fuck himself
  179. [21:20:53] <SatanicSanta> or he can just ignore users and the users can complain to the server admin
  180. [21:20:54] <+Viper-7> he cares
  181. [21:20:57] <+Viper-7> what an asshole
  182. [21:21:08] <SatanicSanta> eh
  183. [21:21:23] <SatanicSanta> he's pretty egocentric tbh
  184. [21:21:24] <+Viper-7> he's a furry ffs, what do you expect :P
  185. [21:21:32] <+Viper-7> well he's no greg
  186. [21:21:45] <SatanicSanta> at least greg doesnt pretend to be a good guy :P
  187. [21:21:56] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> greg is cool guy
  188. [21:22:01] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> he is my kind of mod author
  189. [21:22:02] <+Viper-7> reika is certainly strong minded yes
  190. [21:22:11] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> greg doesn't give any fucks
  191. [21:22:14] <+Viper-7> but unlike greg, not a dick 99% of the time
  192. [21:22:32] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> greg just makes the mod the way he likes, and lets you do what the fuck you want and gives no shits
  193. [21:22:33] <SatanicSanta> TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny: im judging greg based on his actions, i have read about 4 things that he's written.
  194. [21:22:43] <SatanicSanta> TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny: i can respect that.
  195. [21:23:48] <+Viper-7> TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny: i think the bigger point about those two issues from the licence, is they're both things reika would never enforce unless he's triggered BY a user complaint
  196. [21:24:20] <flappy> TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny: Yes exactly, like making planks result in 4 regardless of configs :V
  197. [21:24:21] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> First of all, Reika can't really take action on my server
  198. [21:24:21] <+Viper-7> if/when a user has an item he likes banned on his server, or finds a recipe on a wiki which doesnt work in his public pack, and he bugs reika about it, then reika can do something about it to fix things for the user
  199. [21:24:33] <+Viper-7> sure he can, he can remove permission for you to use his mod(s)
  200. [21:24:56] <flappy> Viper-7: The thing is
  201. [21:24:59] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> flappy: Wasn't that something the TiC guy did?
  202. [21:25:12] <flappy> Permissions do nothing if you don't obey them.
  203. [21:25:17] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> Viper-7: He can't do shit about my server
  204. [21:25:25] <flappy> TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny: *ding ding ding*
  205. [21:25:39] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> my MC server already runs on a server for a hacker community
  206. [21:25:50] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> I could literally run all the illegal MC mods without permission I want
  207. [21:25:53] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> and nobody can do shit
  208. [21:26:01] <SatanicSanta> good point^
  209. [21:26:26] <+Viper-7> you can, illegally, but sure, nobody can do much about it
  210. [21:26:36] <+Viper-7> again, it comes to a front in DISTRIBUTION
  211. [21:26:38] <flappy> internet
  212. [21:26:40] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> which makes me doubt how reika can take action
  213. [21:26:40] <flappy> police
  214. [21:26:43] <SatanicSanta> lol
  215. [21:26:45] <flappy> arrest this man
  216. [21:26:50] <flappy> etc, etc,
  217. [21:26:57] <+Viper-7> file hosting services like dropbox, even vps providers, etc, take such licencing concerns very seriously.
  218. [21:27:19] <SatanicSanta> usb drives dont
  219. [21:27:20] <flappy> Viper-7: You're missing a key part of what he just said
  220. [21:27:29] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> >hacker community
  221. [21:27:36] <SatanicSanta> also, wtf would reika know where TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny is hosting his pack?
  222. [21:27:52] <+Viper-7> yes? you think you've stumbled onto something new with software piracy?
  223. [21:27:52] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> pack is hosted on the same server as the MC server
  224. [21:27:55] <SatanicSanta> do you think, if reika was gonna do shit about it, TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny would tell him where it is?
  225. [21:28:12] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> I should run a server with rotarycraft
  226. [21:28:18] <+Viper-7> TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny: do you go to #adobe and rant about the photoshop licence like this?
  227. [21:28:19] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> that majorly breaks the license
  228. [21:28:23] <+Viper-7> because you can ignore that just the same.
  229. [21:28:25] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> then tell Reika publicly on his topic
  230. [21:28:33] <SatanicSanta> lol
  231. [21:28:38] <+Viper-7> once again, its only if you setup a site for millions of people to download it that anyone would care
  232. [21:28:44] <+Viper-7> and then adobe, like reika, would fuck you up.
  233. [21:28:45] <SatanicSanta> im gonna go eat food now, ill probably read these logs cause theyre fucking hilarious.
  234. [21:28:57] <+Viper-7> because he's carefully given himself a legal leg to stand on
  235. [21:29:07] <SatanicSanta> reika cant really do anything about it except make people hate TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny, which, knowing him, wont matter.
  236. [21:29:10] <+Viper-7> and on that scale (millions of pirated copies distributed)
  237. [21:29:15] <+Viper-7> the law really can get involved.
  238. [21:29:28] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> Sure, but I'm just running a private MC server
  239. [21:29:42] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> so its not enough for anyone to care
  240. [21:29:44] SatanicSanta [~SatanicSa@71-38-136-113.ptld.qwest.net] is now known as Santa|FAK
  241. [21:30:15] <+Viper-7> he says explicitly "Private (personal-use) packs may be created and used without getting any sort of permissions. Redistribution is forbidden."
  242. [21:30:35] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> I'd still have to follow his silly license
  243. [21:30:36] <+Viper-7> the remainder of the licence is talking about Public or "SemiPrivate" packs, where distribution is still involved
  244. [21:30:45] <LoyLT> the color-coded quote was supposed to come out looking more like this... http://snag.gy/348f6.jpg
  245. [21:31:27] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> Viper-7: What if I demand that people download the mod themselves, but still tweak how it runs using minetweaker on the server?
  246. [21:31:39] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> Then I'm not distributing rotarycraft in a semi-private pack
  247. [21:31:47] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> but I am still modifying how it functions for the players on my server
  248. [21:31:50] <+Viper-7> correct, and its fine
  249. [21:32:14] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> Lol
  250. [21:32:21] <+Viper-7> look at the heading of the section you copied that text from
  251. [21:32:22] <+Viper-7> Semi-private packs must obey the following:
  252. [21:32:27] <+Viper-7> at that point you have a private pack
  253. [21:32:29] <+Viper-7> it does not apply
  254. [21:32:32] <flappy> Viper-7: Wait, modifying recipes is suddenly fine?
  255. [21:32:38] <+Matakor> Santa|FAK, FIX YOUR NAME ALSO PING PING
  256. [21:32:38] <+Matakor> Santa|FAK, FIX YOUR NAME ALSO PING PING
  257. [21:32:39] <+Viper-7> in a private pack, sure
  258. [21:32:39] <+Matakor> Santa|FAK, FIX YOUR NAME ALSO PING PING
  259. [21:32:39] <+Matakor> Santa|FAK, FIX YOUR NAME ALSO PING PING
  260. [21:32:45] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> Yep, just because I force the users to download rotarycraft
  261. [21:32:47] <+Matakor> :D
  262. [21:32:48] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> I can distribute the rest
  263. [21:32:56] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> then just ask the user to download rotarycraft
  264. [21:33:03] <TheSuperAwesomeWalrusPonyBunny> and I can still tweak the shit out of it with minetweaker
  265. [21:33:10] <+Viper-7> if you're distributing it - to a limited number of users (semiprivate) then only if its ok with most of the users - if its to the public at large, then no, you cant tweak it at all.
  266. [21:33:11] <flappy> I thought it was super triple bad to do absolutely anything to do any shit to it
  267. [21:33:15] <flappy> And hell
  268. [21:33:31] <flappy> iirc, rotary even disables its shit
  269. [21:33:38] <flappy> if you remove anything
  270. [21:34:24] <+Viper-7> and you can crash the absolute living crap out of gregtech by trying to easymode stuff with minetweaker instead of using his config settings
  271. [21:34:26] <+Viper-7> your point?
  272. [21:34:28] <+Viper-7> whats new here?
  273. /conversation
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