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- Ditto ---> C+
- Agree
- Ditto will always have that niche of copying stats and being set up deterent. It is very match up reliant though, and isn't very useful vs defensive teams, so Ditto tends to rarely put in work.
- Palpitoad ---> C
- Agree
- Palpitoad is such a great mon in terms of role compression. Access to Stealth Rock, a Water-type immunity with Water Absorb, and Palp's Water/Ground typing provides amazing defensive utility (only weak to Grass, immune to Electric, resists Rock, Fire, and Steel). It's able to very easily fit on defensive oriented teams or form a defensive backbone for Balance alongside Gourgeist-L for example.
- Lunatone ---> C-
- Agree
- I rarely, if ever, see Lunatone being used. As a Rocker, it's mediocre because it gets pressured so easily and RP/CM sets are rarely getting set up opportunities. Lunatone has glaring weaknesses to common types such as Water, Grass, and Dark and just gets U-Turned on by the Normal- or Flying-types it wants to check. As a result of these down traits Lunatone is really difficult to fit onto a team and/or build around successfully.
- Phione ---> D (E is too much)
- I hear a lot of talk saying Phione is outclassed as a Water-type, which is true for the most part. Going to E is outright bashing Phione's niches and place in the meta. No other Water-type in the tier will give the combination of utility and offensive momentum Phione does. Heal Bell/U-Turn/Knock Off/Scald alongside 80 base stats across the board is just way too good to be E. Now it may look like Phione is some hidden gem, but admittedly it struggles to consistently put in work and justify use over other bulky Waters (Wartortle, Frillish, Palpitoad, Walrein for example). Basically Phione is hard to fit on teams because of the specific role it tries to fill in Utility Water-type.
- Onix ---> C-
- Disagree
- Should stay where it is in D. Fills a very specific niche in Suicide Lead on Weather and other than that Krokorok is better every time.
- Cherrim ---> E
- Disagree
- Cherrim is the perfect example of D rank;something that is terrible but serves a usable niche. It is heavily outclassed by offensive Grass-types Simisage, Servine, Meganium, Jumpluff, and Gogoat because they offer more to a team. Cherrim has average bulk, decent base 85 Speed, and moderate Special Attack which allow it to pull off Choice sets alongside Healing Wish. This is Cherrim's sole niche: Healing Wish. It enables Cherrim to be justified over other Grass-types it's the only one with access to it.
- Pidgeot ---> B
- Disagree
- Seems that Pidgeot is being misjudged. First off it is easily comparable to the plethora of Normal / Flying types, but for VR sake let's go Fearow. Pidgeot has the greater bulk and Speed but lacks Ground-type coverage. That is the only thing Fearow has over it; Drill Run. This is great but many people exaggerate the usefulness of said coverage. Only really Choice Band or Choice Scarf Fearow is running Drill Run (on Defog you pick between your STAB or Roost). Sure it hits Steel- and Electric-types, but Pidgeot can simply U-turn out. I'll agree that having the coverage to nail them can be better than getting a U-turn off a lot of the time. Bottom line is that Fearow is the better physical attacker but Pidgeot is arguably the better Defog user due to better bulk and Speed. The "Brave Bird recoil" statement is flawed imo because Pidgeot can easily Roost it off and is taking hits better than Fearow. The other thing Pidgeot has going for it is set variety being able to run Stall Breaker Work Up and special Defog. I really dislike the Mixed Murkrow to special Defog Pidgeot comparison since the goal of the set is removing hazards, something Murk doesn't do. It is however inferior to physical Defog imo but that's besides the point. Work Up gives you the option to go either special or physical which forces your opp to scout.
- Pidgeot to C+ is absurd Gary, that's never going to happen.
- Fearow ---> B
- Agree
- Fearow is a force to be reckoned with in the current meta. Choice Band tears through bulky cores like Lickilicky+Gourg-L+Steel-type with some prediction. Choice Scarf is an amazing revenge killer but can't really take priority moves. It faces a lot of competition as a Defog user and has poor defensive typing/utility so it can struggle to fit onto teams. However Fearow does check a significant portion of the tier and doesn't allow as many free
- Weepinbell ---> D
- Pikachu ---> B
- Trapinch ---> B
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