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  1. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  2. Sounds good
  3. Alright guys listen
  4. I'll be honest with you lot
  5. We suck
  6. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  7. idk what you're on about mate
  8. townies dropping left, right and centre
  9. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  10. But....
  11. The things is, Rabi.
  12. There's so many investigative roles, we're bound to be found at some point
  13. There's one clear way for us to win, though
  14. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  15. It's harder than normal, bear that in mind
  16. Because EVERYONE is doing something
  17. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  18. We can cut a deal with the cult, use Wiicked's ability to comunicate with them.
  19. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  20. It would just be nice if people spoke more....it just feels like GP is carrying two silent cops and doing all the legwork(edited)
  21. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  22. We're the only thing standing between the cult and victory. The cultist is basically unlynchable
  23. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  24. Ah yes
  25. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  26. He can claim any of his recruits previous role and he will not get counter claimed
  27. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  28. Ah yes
  29. So basically get them to recruit the loudmouths
  30. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  31. Get them to recruit us and give us roles to claim!
  32. We'll be more and easier to coordinate
  33. We have two night kills abilities, we just have no way of lasting until the end
  34. Being culted could change that
  35. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  36. Right ok
  37. So
  38. ergh nto sure how the role exactly works
  39. So in that case
  40. Who would be best to be culted first
  41. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  42. Plus, he has 4 secure recruits with us, without fear of visiting the granny
  43. That would be me, since I'll practically be a vanilla role after I use my ability today
  44. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  45. Yes
  46. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  47. Next would be you, then Wiicked, then Arsenic.
  48. Arsenic last because of his poison ability
  49. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  50. I poison
  51. Arsenic roleblocks
  52. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  53. Oh shit, well you go last
  54. How many players are alive right now?
  55. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  56. 16
  57. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  58. There's three masons right now iirc
  59. It's a good plan, with a bit of luck we'll win once everyone of us is recruited
  60. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  61. Ok so summary
  62. Move lynch to Naku to hopefully kill the granny
  63. Wicked meanwhile speaks to the cultist to start recruiting us
  64. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  65. Our combined votes gives us a majority so we'd never get lynched
  66. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  67. And then the next day?
  68. I am for sure going to be dead meat next Day phase
  69. I assume just collude votes towards one person as we are the majority
  70. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  71. Our combined votes gives us a majority so we'd never get lynched
  72. Three players will be dead by next phase, right? Nightkrow, Naku and whoever we kill.
  73. That makes 13 players alive
  74. The cult will be 4 by then
  75. And we're 4
  76. 8 in total, so majority
  77. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  78. So 8 vs 5
  79. Ok cool
  80. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  81. I see no downside to this plan, but let me know if you do. Plus, I have a very convincing argument to make the cultist trust us
  82. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  83. No it's pretty much our only way out
  84. Because at the moment me and you are massively suspected
  85. Wiicked is gaining attention
  86. And because people are just sheeping along all the time
  87. One person cries scum adn they all just jump on them
  88. So at least if we are the voting majority that won't matter
  89. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  90. So true that it hurts
  91. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  92. And this is why Mafia upsets me
  93. lol
  94. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  95. Some of us are good, Rabi. Don't lose faith
  96. Arsenic - 12/23/2016
  97. Plus it's good for me helps me blend in since I don't know the Fuck I'm doing
  98. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  99. Awesome, glad you agree.
  100. Alright, I just realized one small downside.
  101. We may have to abstain from night killing once or twice, otherwise one of us might be left out since the cult will outnumber the innos before we all get recruited
  102. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  103. so in that case we need to pinpoint who we definitely want gone
  104. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  105. That'll be easier once we get to an agreement with the cult, we don't wanna kill them by mistake
  106. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  107. Oh of course
  108. inb4 I've poisoned a cult member
  109. Although that would be good
  110. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  111. the leader
  112. Yeah a member would be cool
  113. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  114. It's one less cult member to worry about when it comes to tallying up b ut we still hold majority
  115. If I've poisoned the fucking leader...
  116. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  117. HAHAHA that would be unfortunate
  118. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  119. I will just poison myself
  120. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  121. They can still be saved by EC if that's the case.
  122. We need to send that message ASAP
  123. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  124. @Wicked3DS get on
  125. So are we looking to kill tonight?
  126. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  127. Rabi, do the maths for me would ya? Do we have to abstain if so how many times so we can all get recruited before the cult wins
  128. (abstain from night killing)
  129. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  130. Ok so
  131. So right now it's 3 in the cult right?
  132. 4 mafia
  133. so that's 7
  134. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  135. Wait
  136. Remember that only cultist members count towards the majority, doesn't matter if we're colluding
  137. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  138. Ok so
  139. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  140. We have to be culted first
  141. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  142. If we take ourselves out
  143. It's 12 altogether
  144. 3 cult currently
  145. So 3 and 9
  146. If we all get culted, it will be 7 cult vs 9 town
  147. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  148. Without any night kills
  149. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  150. Without any kills
  151. So we can afford to kill one and the cult then recruit one
  152. wait no
  153. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  154. I mean
  155. We're killing one with the redirect
  156. And the poison
  157. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  158. Ok then it will be 7 and 7
  159. if we all get recruited
  160. Which means we can't kill anyone else
  161. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  162. Right.
  163. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  164. if EC is the role he claims
  165. Then hopefully he should save NK and therefore we can afford to kill one person
  166. Because it will be then 7 and 8
  167. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  168. Oh that too, it'll probably happen even if EC's not the doctor
  169. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  170. So if I can somehow stay alive, then I can just keep the number up by poisonoing people
  171. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  172. We can easily stay alive if the cult agrees to combine effort
  173. Remember we'll have the majority in votes if the cult and us vote the same person
  174. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  175. Yes
  176. Ok, let's roll
  177. So really what Arsenic is doing rn is perfect
  178. Noone's even bothering to bat an eyelid and with him voting me too
  179. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  180. Dude, if we pull this off right, we might just do the most convoluted plan ever.
  181. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  182. lol everyone saying about no cc
  183. and therfore must be bad
  184. I mean I'm 'dead' anyway, might just claim something fkn crazy
  185. Wicked3DS - 12/23/2016
  186. Ok so what am I doing?
  187. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  188. You have to message the cult leader. Saying that if we join forces now and they agree to recruit us we have a 100% chance of winning the game. Let them know we do this because we understand we have no way of winning this anymore
  189. Lowkey remind them that we're the only thing capable of destroying them :smiley:
  190. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  191. If we're recruited, they can't die as we're their only threat and then they can win the game
  192. We only do this because we know as the Mafia we have lost
  193. although ofc don't mention mafia specifically
  194. or w/e
  195. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  196. Upsides for them: they don't have to fear visiting the granny and we can guarantee they won't be night killed.
  197. Let them know that I'm mafia and if they agree to the plan to give a like to my first post on the thread, and it'd be better if every single one of them likes the post so we don't accidentally kill them.(edited)
  198. (although we'll probably abstain from night killing)
  199. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  200. Yes, due to the whole cult majority thing it will be best to not kill anyone moving forward
  201. IF for some reason a cult member goes, we can just retaliate and kill them
  202. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  203. Make them fear, let them know that no matter who gets lynched today, we'll be redirecting the lynch onto someone and could potentially end them.
  204. Gee I'm speaking like real mafia now
  205. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  206. help johnny is secretly italian
  207. and has already planned our deaths
  208. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  209. my grandma was italian
  210. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  211. Alright, I got a message written:
  212. Hello, this is the Mafia and we have a proposition for you: we, as a team acknowledge our inability to win as mafia and we've come to the conclusion that our only way to win is if we join forces with the cult. First off, you should know the pros of this alliance:
  213.  
  214. You are guaranteed to have 4 succesful recruits (every single one of us)
  215. You can recruit without fear of visiting the Granny.
  216. Even before you recruit us all, our combined votes alone make a majority in the game by next day phase meaning we have a guaranteed victory.
  217. The only thing standing between you and victory is us. A cult leader is 99% unlynchable, generally is the mafia who kills the leader during the night phase, thus resulting in your defeat.
  218. If you agree with us, we'll be abstaining from night killing, otherwise the cult would win before all of us can get recruited (yes, we did the maths)
  219.  
  220. In case you're having doubts, remember that we have 2 different ways of killing you, poison and the night kill. Keep in mind we gain nothing from double crossing you, but we have a game to win!
  221.  
  222. As a sign of good faith, we'll tell you the identity of one of us. Johnny is mafia, no matter who dies today, we'll be redirecting the lynch onto someone else, that someone else could be you. You don't have to out yourself to coordinate with us, today you can just leave a like on Johnny's first post on the thread and recruit him this night phase, from there we'll continue to be in touch thanks to this ability of mine and we'll be invincible because of our majority in votes. It would be ideal that every one of you likes the post to avoid accidentally killing you when we redirect the vote.(edited)
  223. what'cha think
  224. Alley-oop - 12/23/2016
  225. Yes
  226. yes
  227. and yes
  228. Johnny - 12/23/2016
  229. Awesome
  230. @Wicked3DS you can rephrase if you want.
  231. the dramatic touch was on purpose
  232. Wicked3DS - 12/23/2016
  233. Works for me
  234. @Mr Cat Dog Send that message that Johnny wrote up to the cult leader
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