<Copponex> Any good places to get a DYI kit in eu? Having read a bit on the DYI subreddit, most of the links is for American shops. Looking for a place where I can get everything needed in a nice little noob friendly kit, preferably also a place to read about DYI.
<morphinememories> Tried make my vape
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<Copponex> Will check it out. Thanks :)
<UKEbola> http://piratesvape.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=76_77
<ecreubot> (UKEbola) VG STARTER KIT [piratesvape.uk]
<morphinememories> Also check out the diy reddit there'd a lot there :)
<morphinememories> r/diy ejuice
<ecreubot> (morphinememories) /r/DIY/ DIY - All things related to doing, building, fixing things on your own.   **Do it yourself!**  - created 7y ago, 4927495 subscribers [ www.reddit.com/r/DIY/ ]
<morphinememories> Damn
<wokey91> Guys one issue I had with nova was what i was told, and the person that said it i cant remember but other people shoukd when they're online. My issue was that his labels were wronb, he said hed messed up a batch, i took some screens of conversations, but that one was on my phone, but its the reason he refunded me, and i still have the juice and plan on
<wokey91> getting the nic levels and stuff tested, because either he messed up a whold batch or sent me stuff he knew was wrong
<wokey91> Knowing id vape it, either way not good, im sure others will remember me moaning after i got the order which took a month
<morphinememories> Ewol: was concerned about health/safety aspect. I said you would drop him a message. I too am curious.
<wokey91> Imo, and im not an expert so take it with a pinch of salt, hes not meeting the health and safety standards id expect from avender
<fruitlube> What makes you think that?
<wokey91> Or atleast has lapses in those standards
<fruitlube> I'm curious now
<rage-quit> I've missed something mental here
<morphinememories> From what I understand it's speculation at the mo.
<Pesticide> .cur 10 GBP EUR
<ecreubot> (Pesticide) 10.0 GBP is 14.3 EUR
<Pesticide> .cur 17.5 GBP EUR
<ecreubot> (Pesticide) 17.5 GBP is 25.0 EUR
<wokey91>  1 thing i dont want to say about, but also my juice that he said he'd messed up the whole batch of, as i said i plan to get them tested, because he was either incompetent or malicious. People will remember me moaning that it was refunding and why when i first got them
<fluffton> You still ranting about this wokey?
<fluffton> Fuck sake mah
<fluffton> Man
<fruitlube> I don't think I was here for that
<fluffton> He refunded the money
<morphinememories> fluffton: it's something different
<fluffton> He fucked up a batch, told you and apologised
<fluffton> Trash the juice
<fluffton> Done
<fruitlube> Eh, mistakes are made. It happens.
<wokey91> I know he did, but theres other stuff too, ill message you, as i said before i dont know if he did it on purpose because i was moaning so much, once i get it tested ill shut up about it completelym but i want it confirmed first.
<fluffton> Bringing healthy and safety standards is greatly exaggerated
<fluffton> He probably added too much of a flavour or something
<wokey91> Maybe so, but i just want he nic tested
<fluffton> Why?
<morphinememories> fluffton: I know what you're saying but wokey91 isn't on about that, something different. Think should PM him wokey91
<fruitlube> How do you even get the nic tested?
<fluffton> Fuck pm
<wokey91> You can get a kit fruitlube
<fluffton> Sort it out with Nova rather than ranting about it here day in and day out
<morphinememories> fuck it man just say what the craic is
<fruitlube> TIL
<Airaith> all this talk of pm'ing people when questioned is stupid and just seems malicious to damage a rep at this point
<Airaith> and i've only been in here two hours
<wokey91> I havent been ranting day in day out fluffton it was bought up, i gave my opinion
<fluffton> I just want to say I haven't received any pm at this point Airaith and I agree with you on this
<fluffton> You just came here and started ranting...
<morphinememories> If you read back I said to message whoever said what, and then messaged the mods. Trying to stay neutral on it.
<morphinememories> Got enough drama in my life
<morphinememories> Lol
<wokey91> No i didnt,i didnt raise nova
<fluffton> Um
<fruitlube> wut
<fluffton> People in chan were talking about diy etc
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<morphinememories> fluffton: I'll  pm you man.
<fluffton> Then you came in ranting about Nova again
<big_lurk> wokey91, from what i remember you waited >1 month for your replacement? and tried contacting him several times during this period? so i think you have a fair point saying these things
<fluffton> No don't pm me
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<morphinememories> Sorry fluffton I did and didn't see that message. I'm not here to fall out with folks, so whatever.
<wokey91> Theres more to it than that big lurk, including an issue bigger than my order. I think its just that all fluffton sees me put even though i talk on here pretty much all day every day, i gave my opinion that i dont think he's up to scratch, i want to speak to nova about it first
<Ewol> fluffton: health and safety concerns should be available for anyone to read. I don't see why you're trying to hush hush.
<fluffton> It's OK I'm just not reading
<fluffton> Ewol: what?
<Ewol> Especially when it's at the top of the recommended vendor list.
<fluffton> How the hell am I trying to be hush hush?
<Airaith> in fairness flutton hasn't said anything but he's not a custoemr services rep
<fluffton> I'm the one saying don't pm me this shit
<Pesticide> Things are getting interesting here tonight
<fluffton> Fuck sake
<Airaith> it's all the cloak and dagger bullshit winding people up
<fluffton> Fuck this
<fluffton> I said it earlier
<morphinememories> IMO his concerns are quite valid and i'd too be interested to see how it plays. But I'm not here to stir shit so I'll stop talking and leave for those involved.
<Airaith> what concerns
<Ewol> That's what I mean
<Ewol> I don't even know
<Airaith> noone does
<fluffton> I AM NOT FUCKING NOVAVAPES CUSTOMER SERVICE
<Ewol> which makes it 10x worse
<Ewol> or sound 10x worse
<Ewol> than it probably is
<fruitlube> It just makes me more curious
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<Ewol> I'm not saying he's putting asbestos in your eliquid, but fuck it would be nice to have it out in the open what the concerns actually are
<wokey91> fluffton: honestly its a seperate issue,  you bought yourself into this having ago at me for having an opinion
<Ewol> instead of dancing around the subject
<Airaith> the only thing i'm taking out of this is people want to make nova look bad because there's no way to defend yourself against "a concern"
<fluffton> wokey I just said stop ranting about the same thing all the time
<morphinememories> Ewol: I agree. I think he's waiting for some others to pop on. That's it from me.
<Airaith> and there's no reason to talk in public about "concerns you'll pm" if they're actually private
<norilor> lemme get ma popcorn
<Ewol> Concerns should be aired and dealt with though Airaith
<Airaith> exactly
<Pesticide> norilor: vape dat sugar baron bruh
<Airaith> this is just childish
<wokey91> Then i sont mention him again. Done.
<Ewol> You don't mention him again? you haven't even stated what the issue is
<fruitlube> ^
<fluffton> Exactly
<norilor> OP will surely deliver
<wokey91> Not public knowledge, fluffton is a mod, ill keep my trap shut
<Ewol> and you're having a lot of his current and potential customers scared off
<fluffton> Wokey what?
<Ewol> if it's really a health and safety concern, get it out there nad let nova respond to it
<Ewol> because as it is right now you're just discrediting the guy
<krautsalat> So a guy mixing in is private apartment has quality issues?
<norilor> Is it the dog cum again? He said he wouldn't do it anymore.
<krautsalat> dont tell me that ;)
<wokey91_> Im waiting for other people to heard what i heard to come online, until then i dont want to say something that is potentially untrue, i have no reason to lie, he alreadg fucked a whole batch and sent some of them out, thats bad enough.
<morphinememories> Haha norilor
<Ewol> I asked him to PM me as I was genuinely curious and if my health is at risk using his products I deserve to know
<Ewol> Instead it's all oh i wont say here
<Ewol> blah blah
<Ewol> at first I thought fluffton was preventing you from saying, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
<fluffton> No
<fruitlube> Doesn't fucking up a batch happen everywhere?
<fluffton> I'm saying if you're gonna accuse a vendor like this do it public and disclose everything
<wokey91_> Ill say then, and say who was there when i heard it
<Ewol> Exactly, but he wont do it fluffton and I can't understand why
<norilor> No H&S concern here. But krautsalat has a point.
<fluffton> So basically wokey
<morphinememories> No it isn't that Ewol. wokey91 is waiting for another member to come on and confirm what may or may not have been said. That's kt!!
<fluffton> You're basing everything off the rumour mill
<wokey91_> Coffee2Code, dumbgecko, PhilA
<norilor> tl;dr: QC issues, possibly dog cum.
<wokey91_> In the hangout someone mentions nova with his juices i  the bath with him
<wokey91_> Cian
<big_lurk> wtf, how is hanging a vendor out on the sub for fucking up batches and giving shitty/no customer service better than discussing it here like sensible people?
<Ewol> Why didn't you just fucking say that?
<Ewol> All this cloak and dagger shit
<PhilA> I've got no idea what's going on.
<morphinememories> Ewol: probably to not discredit someone?
<fluffton> Big lurk by public I meant here
<Ewol> That's why you put it out there and let the vendor and anyone else respond to it
<Ewol> rumor or not
<morphinememories> E.g. Think was waiting for the others.
<Ewol> Then all sides are informed
<wokey91> I cant remember who said it, but it was in the hangout, somebody said about a snapchat with him
<Pesticide> morphinememories: You discredit someone more by not saying what your concerns with him are than just directly saying them
<norilor> ^
<Airaith> ^
<morphinememories> Pesticide: yeah agreed, but I can also see where he is coming from
<wokey91> Well fuck this then, ask them guys, enjoy your bath nova juice
<Pesticide> Also, like I said in PM wokey91, I don’t care about the bath thing
<fluffton> Wokey
<Pesticide> but I don’t see why having bottles in bath is wrong
<Pesticide> they’re closed
<fluffton> So why do you want the nic tested?
<Ewol> I guess he wants it tested for contimanents
<Ewol> but who knows
<morphinememories> Anyhow I'm impartial until facts are revealed. *facts*. Back to my movie.
<norilor> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6757664/Novas-dog-came-in-my-ejuice
<ecreubot> (norilor) The Sun [www.thesun.co.uk]
<wokey91> Thats not how businesses trade
<morphinememories> Lol norilor every time 😆
<Pesticide> I’ve yet to see that snapchat though
<morphinememories> Were you there for my 0800 rspca heh
<norilor> :o
<obsidi4n> norilor: normally you have to pay extra for that
<morphinememories> I got it free..
<morphinememories> Lol
<krautsalat> you get what you pay for
<Coffee2Code> If I am gonna make juice, it'll be in a clean room with gloves and iso-cleaned gear
<krautsalat> just spend a bit more on juice
<krautsalat> or diy
<krautsalat> get over it
<Coffee2Code> If anyone has questions, i'd say watch the livestream
<Pesticide> btw
<krautsalat> yeah
<Pesticide> If you’re DIY
<fluffton> #dramalivestream
<morphinememories> ^
<krautsalat> after the fundraiser livestream i knew i would never buy something off those guys
<morphinememories> ^?
<Coffee2Code> Did people just join to rant about nova?
<Coffee2Code> Get a fucking life
<Coffee2Code> He isn't even here
<Coffee2Code> Way to go, discredit someone who can't defend himself
<Pesticide> I just don’t fucking know how to say the rest of my message
<morphinememories> Erm Coffee2Code aren't you implicated in this?
<Pesticide> ffs
<norilor> where did I leave my pitchfork ffs
<Coffee2Code> Grow some fucking balls, guys, and buy from a different Vendor
<Coffee2Code> morphinememories: how?
<Sobear> norilor: -----------E
<morphinememories> If you were there?
<morphinememories> When it was said / that's my understanding
<norilor> Sobear, thanks m8! Looked everywhere.
<Pesticide> If you’re DIYing, your mixing lab will probably be about the same as nova’s
<Coffee2Code> I said I got some free juice from nova
<PhilA> We were in a hangout whilst this was mentioned.
<Sobear> morphinememories: stop spewing bullshit, if you have some proof just release it
<fluffton> Coffee2Code: you're not allowed to talk to people
<morphinememories> Sobear: think you've got the wrong person.
<Coffee2Code> People suddenly started about nova's hygiëne
<Pesticide> hygiene !
<norilor> Pesticide, I don't bathe with my ejuice tho, but I'm vaping dust for sure!
<Pesticide> that’s the word I was looking for
<Sobear> lol
<Pesticide> bathing with your ejuices bottles isn’t a problem
<fluffton> Norilor so much dust
<Pesticide> they’re fucking closed
<Sobear> #ecreudrama2015
<Pesticide> You’re not vaping bath water with soap
<Sobear> #novagate
<fruitlube> lol
<Pesticide> #JeSuisNovavapes
<norilor> fluffton, and eyebrows
<fluffton> ?
<Coffee2Code> Wtf someone just post picture proof
<Pesticide> ^
<Sobear> Pesticide: lol
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<Pesticide> like I said before, I’ve yet to see that snapchat
<Ewol> There is nothing wrong with talking about concerns btw.
<morphinememories> Coffee2Code: who was there with you, who said it? I don't understand why you're switching sides lol
<Pesticide> #PrayForNova
<Sobear> #Nova2211
<fluffton> morphinememories: I don't think Coffee2Code was on any side
<norilor> eyebrow hair, lashes and boogers in my juice
<morphinememories> 1 minute you said you expect clean room next you're defending
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<fluffton> Dude was just chilling in a hangout
<Pesticide> Nope morphinememories
<Pesticide> he said he would have a clean room
<morphinememories> Ah okay my mistake.
<fluffton> Hahahah dust boogers setting like concrete
<Pesticide> 21:05      Coffee2Code │ If I am gonna make juice, it'll be in a clean room with gloves and
<PhilA> Man, there's a load of shit going on at the moment.
<Pesticide>                        │ iso-cleaned gear
<norilor> Pesticide, bottles can fail tho
<Ewol> Yeah but why even say that unless you're implying something
<Coffee2Code> What the fuck am I being attacked for?
<Ewol> I don't get it
<Pesticide> They can
<morphinememories> I see - sorry remember I'm drugged up. I apologise Coffee2Code
<Coffee2Code> Im not on anyone's side
<krautsalat> me neither
<Ewol> YOu're not being attacked geez
<Coffee2Code> Neither on Nova his side or the whiners
<morphinememories> I don't know how hangouts work but wouldn't you know who said what?
<PhilA> So, this is all stemming from a google hangout?
<Ewol> People just want to know your viewpoint Coffee2Code
<fruitlube> Looks like it
<PhilA> A hangout that I was in, no less.
<Sobear> EVERYONE CALM THE FUCK DOWN
<Coffee2Code> I know exactly who said what but I'm not throwing any names in the mix here
<Pesticide> And someone in an ISO cleaned room can cough and contaminate your juice with viruses
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<PhilA> ^
<Sobear> guys, there's no proof
<Coffee2Code> Fuck that, it'll be a two sided pitchfork wall of death
<Coffee2Code> Nobody said fucking anything
<morphinememories> But that's what folk are asking for isn't it
<Coffee2Code> Now stfu about it and send Nova a PM on Reddit
<morphinememories> Right
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<norilor> run goldfish, run
<Coffee2Code> And don't publicly shame him when you got no proof, only something some guy heard from some other guy that someone said something
<Pesticide> Milk & Honey from Cosmic Fog isn’t bad
<PhilA> Ǝ--------E
<fluffton> Heyo fish
<goldfish> Yo
<Pesticide> but why the huge throat hit ?
<Pesticide> it’s 50/50 3mg
<Pesticide> welcome back goldfish
<morphinememories> Coffee2Code: that's the only question I raised to you / who could have said it I don't know how hang out work.
<Ewol> Damage is probably done. I'm sure a few paypal disputes have been opened already Coffee2Code
<Coffee2Code> I know who said what
<Coffee2Code> Just not gonna tell
<PhilA> ^
<norilor> Pesticide, Milk & Honey Dish Soap Edition
<fluffton> How's it going mate roary the race care winning?
<Pesticide> ahah
<goldfish> Yea it was good
<goldfish> Peter Kay does the voice
<morphinememories> ... But that's what folk are asking where is the proof/source/who said what
<PhilA> I stopped playing Fallout 4 for this shit?
<Pesticide> does Honey concs add throat hit to juice ?
<Coffee2Code> If anyone started a dispute against Nova, cancel it, that's low, try to work it out with him first, these proofless allegations are not doing the community any good
<Sobear> ffs morphinememories stfu no one cares
<Ewol> When it comes to peoples health I think it's normal for people to be concerned and want to know all info
<fluffton> I don't give a fuck who said what
<Coffee2Code> morphinememories: then people turn the pitchforks to those guys
<fluffton> Coz at this point that's all it is
<krautsalat> this is the right attitude
<fluffton> People chatting shit
<norilor> I was about to order, I closed my browser.
<Coffee2Code> Ewol: then send a PM to Nova.
<Coffee2Code> Ask Nova personally
<Ewol> I did through paypal (not a dispute)
<Pesticide> Noone cares about my throat hit question.
<Coffee2Code> Or send a email to novavape@gmail.com
<fluffton> Sorry Pesticide what's the question?