Well the 42% offsim time is the # that stands out most.  So time to shuffle the deck. etting Selkra go as a GM,  letting @Nipton the Librarian go as aGM/Group Lead, sys stuff is between you and Ren.    Giving @Aliton and @Avram 3 days to give me some sort of status update to confirm GM status.
Rogue - Today at 3:24 AM
not trying to set any alarms off or anything, just pointing out. and yeah the 42% for sure
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 3:26 AM
O
I'm getting removed from Jedi?
Hart (omen.zero) - Today at 3:28 AM
Uhm. Just saying that Nipton has been working hard on shit behind the scenes.
Zenless (What is sleep) - Today at 3:28 AM
Yeah,  I mean in the last 6 weeks you've spent a total of about 20 hours here, combined
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 3:28 AM
Yeah. Its fine hart
Zenless (What is sleep) - Today at 3:28 AM
You've spent 25%+ that today ALONE elsewhere
so the lack of care is pretty clear
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 3:28 AM
Alright
I've been working on things as of late and taking time to get some RP and get my head back in the game
I've had a list of council members and training NCs being written up and ideas for the future
but.
I understand so.
It's been fun
Sume (Nekomatsume) - Today at 3:31 AM
Jesus now is NOT the time to be doing this.  Fucks sake
Zenless (What is sleep) - Today at 3:31 AM
There isn't going to be a RP to get back to though if all the leads are somewhere else all the time, the players notice this almost as much as I do, only they don't care as much as I do and I don't expect them to.  They say nothing, they just look at the staff boards see how many yellow offlines are there and go "next stop!"
Hart (omen.zero) - Today at 3:32 AM
I've been the first to call out Nipton and others when they weren't doing anything. But yeah Nipton has been working on stuff lately. Zen you dont need another scapegoat situation. How many staff need to be driven off.
Sume (Nekomatsume) - Today at 3:32 AM
Buy why kill off a lead when there is being progress made, steps taken?
Not to mention, NO ONE to take his spot?
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 3:35 AM
No, I've been on sim. I'm not going to deny that I have, and I gave my reasons why. If thats not okay then I'll accept it. I've been willing to step down as I know I've been in a literal shit way the past forever. I had a bit of hope but I see where we are now so.. It is what it is
Rogue - Today at 3:35 AM
i can confirm that liam has been working with people on stuff but at the same time it doesn't look good when several of our staff members are over spending their time at lynnea. how does that help the sim if no one's there to keep things active?
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 3:37 AM
I'm not arguing about my time on sim here, Rogue, by all rights throw it back in my face.
Like I said, I see the decision made and its been made, so I'm gonna say my goodbyes and wait for my stuff to be removed.
Rogue - Today at 3:37 AM
no need to get all defensive, i'm just pointing out, i'm on no one's side here
Sume (Nekomatsume) - Today at 3:37 AM
Fucking Christ.  JUST STOP IT!
Shit
For fucks sakes.
WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE RIGHT NOW
It was announced that a time jump would be made
EVERYONE Is focusing on that
It’s what people have wanted.
Nep is working on making the council and getting shit done
Going around with an axe while there is a ghost staff as is is NOT the way to handle it or putting more pressure on staff that were returning from LOA’s that clearly needed to be dealt with.
It’s almost emotional and verbal abuse what I read in here
And usually I keep my mouth shut but I really am pissed off right now.
I’m tired of stuff being bullied, tired of role players going else where because numbers are more important than long term role players that bring worth to story lines.
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 3:38 AM
Need someone to get Cassandra some tags
nvm, got her
Zenless (What is sleep) - Today at 3:40 AM
How is that a scapegoat? 20 hours in six weeks..   That's like an average of like I don't know 3 hours a week, had 5 or more just today for elsewhere so yeah I'm not sure how I'm supposed to look at it.  I get it, everyone is friends while I'm on my island having to be objective to try to figure out what's best going forward.  I don't know how having some expectations of people in key roles is emotional abuse? I don't think you're looking at it objectively.
Rogue - Today at 3:41 AM
@Sume (Nekomatsume) i don't want anyone to step down either, if things are happening behind the scenes that's fine, but are people just supposed to not RP until the time jump? i mean, i'd like to see some stuff happen between now and then and right now there's not a whole lot happening. i still think it's a staff/player issue, meaning it's not just staff, it's the player base as well
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 3:41 AM
I told you exactly why I've been absent eva and I told you I'd get shit done in the timeframe you gave me
YOU didn't give me that timeframe while I was in the MIDDLE of working on it
So, I'll accept it graciously.
and I'll move on.
Guys.
Its fine.
Hart (omen.zero) - Today at 3:42 AM
Shit needs to be worked on over time. BHG, Dregs, Black sun all need shit happening. Inquisiton and Jedi too. E.g why does Black sun still not have a leader publicly announced. A dozen players have slowly drifted into the void because their rp revolved around that.  Inqs too, lets be real the loss of Alex is fucking huge loss for that faction. Could nipton have done more previously, yeah for sure. Should have been addressed 4 weeks ago. Is he doing stuff now? I've noticed yes. Like this fucking culling shit is getting ridiculous. You're pushing people away through rash actions against people who help and then mass inaction against the things that dont or the people who actively drag the sim down. But every thing has to be vetted before changes go through, and no backups in place for any of it. Like What happens to the BHG if allissa stops doing stuff ???? What happens to the dregs with Avram ?? What is gonna happen to Inquisiton and Jedi??? Black sun is still rudderless even with a captain.
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 3:42 AM
Someone will take my place just fine, people like jedi.
Tho I don't like that i don't even get to keep being a jedi so lol
Hart (omen.zero) - Today at 3:43 AM
And its not all about friends. I've become friends with alex /after and because of/ the actions against her. I'm not friends with nipton at all.
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 3:43 AM
Thats actually true. I haven't added hart. I need to do that
Hart (omen.zero) - Today at 3:43 AM
We've spoken once outside of this discord and that was about jedi council stuff
Onnnnnce
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 3:44 AM
I'll keep the shady looking guy
Do you need to move him btw zen?
I remember you asking about that
Or is he cool where he is?
Sume (Nekomatsume) - Today at 3:46 AM
I am just tired of all the negativity and yes, I see that as emotional abuse.
Rather than "You need to do this, we need to do this."

There is a different way to approach it so it doesn't seem like we are getting flogged to death.
"Hey guys, what can we do to make you and others want to be on the sim more?"
What can be done to boost staff moral?
A lot of us are tired.  Finals, return from LoA, doing as much as we can for the sim...
Some positive reinforcement is needed.
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 3:48 AM
actually I'll just pick up shady guy
someone else can put him down
Sume (Nekomatsume) - Today at 3:49 AM
I am tired of the verbal abuse I get in IMs all the time.  That is me... I can only tolerate so much.
I would like to see more positive things than negative and you'll see a boosted moral.
Zenless (What is sleep) - Today at 3:49 AM
Yeah,  and I was ok with that, but then your one of those ignoring the sim when it's most in need, and that's you and if that's what you want to do I'm not going to blast you as a person but I do need to take stock of who is invested in trying to get things back to where they should be and whose not.  I don't expect anybody to be like me but I put a ridiculous amount of time, effort and money into trying to keep SWRP going, while no one is being asked to bend over backwards I do expect some dedication out of thosewho want to have a say in a group, the sim as a whole, etc.  If they're not invested but making decisions it's like gambling with someone elses money.  This has already happened onmost accounts Hart.  We're at the point group leads is needing and getting a full overhaul.  Better to say something now.   He's ok I think I worked around them re Shady guy.
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 3:50 AM
If you need either of the vendors moved lemme know, or return them,
Rogue - Today at 3:51 AM
i agree sume, i'm tired of the negativity as well and it's frustrating but at the same time it's not very encouraging to see things going the way they are and with a good portion of our player base on other sims, so that like compounds the negativity for me
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 3:52 AM
Listen, Eva, I've been putting work into the sim. Have for a long time. I took the Jedi from the ashes and did the best I could within the parameters I have, and NOW with what I know know about the future, I've been getting back into things. It was a slow start, and yeah I was RPing in Lynnea, because I needed some RP (without disturbances) to get me back on track. I get why its happening and thats whatever, I just thought I had the time you gave me. I feel lied to. I feel back stabbed for all the work I have put in, and its mostly backround shit. I GM, I take care of problems that occur, I'll give people tags, I've been getting a council ready. But none of that matters, all that matters is the numbers that you got to see on a screen, not what you've actually seen me do. I don't tend to fly everything I do high, but I've been doing THINGS THAT NEED DONE as of late, because I was ready to return like I said.
But its done and over with now
and thats all it is
so, I've been let go.
Big whoop.
Sume (Nekomatsume) - Today at 3:53 AM
That is when you say "Hey... what can be done to have you here more?  What will give you incentive?"
And that is what is needed.
I get you @Zenless (What is sleep)  it IS a gamble but honestly... when it comes to some groups, it is worth it.
For the Jedi, who do you have to take the spot that wont cause a mass exodus?
For the Black Suns... they've been through the ringer and it was suggested before to down size and work on the factions still stable to support them.
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 3:54 AM
I'd suggest Kora or someone similar
Maybe Valora if she can get more active.
She has good ideas and was the first to give me her NCs
Rogue - Today at 3:56 AM
kora's gonna need a few days to get back up to speed since she's been gone for so long (though she says she's ready to go) but i recommend her as well. in fact, i've heard she was being considered for council, but that's up to her. liam does bring up a good point though, he did handle some GM related affairs earlier tonight so that's... something? @Zenless (What is sleep)
Sume (Nekomatsume) - Today at 3:56 AM
Yeah Val had some really good ones
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 3:56 AM
Prety much everyone so far has said I've been doing shit
I've just let my time go over somewhere while I recouped.
and I wasn't hiding it lol
BUH ANYWAY
I could probably catch whomever takes my place up I guess
maybe.
Meh.
Rogue - Today at 3:59 AM
@Nipton the Librarian maybe you weren't in the past but i know as recently as today you've been doing GM stuff and talking to people. but that's all i know
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 3:59 AM
past month or so I've been dealing with personal issues.
Kinda major.
A few people know.
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 4:00 AM
Stems from the LOA I took from February suddenly, fortunately its gotten better recently (hence the activity)
Rogue - Today at 4:01 AM
i understand that liam, that being said, i do agree with zen that it's hard to retain traction when people (not saying you specifically) are elsewhere, and staff members' time on sim is spent partially elsewhere. so it's like half the focus on the sim is somewhere else when we need the focus to be on us because of the pit we're in at the moment
Zenless (What is sleep) - Today at 4:02 AM
There are holes all over the place to the point it's being considered to go on hiatus to figure it out, but several negatives to doing that as well.  I have tried very hard to be patient but it's hard for me personally to stay motivated when I feel like those around me do not care.   I couldn't get much help for the Expo, couldn't get much help to run events, can't even get much help to try to keep things stable on the weekends when I work more than during the week.   Making plans is good, but if people don't see you on the ground there is a disconnect that makes leading a group pretty hard to do.   Like how people will put a lot of work into the system and that's good, if there's no attention to the story the rp things go belly up.  If there's an alternative way to get focus and dedicated, I am all ears on it.  and yeah like i said that i could cope with, it's that you barely been back a minute and spending most of your time elsewhere, you explained your reasons but like I don't see that as a necessity when you've put the group on the back burner so long
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 4:02 AM
Well fuck me for needing to get a bit of my RP mojo back lol
Sume (Nekomatsume) - Today at 4:02 AM
T.T
CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!?
Zenless (What is sleep) - Today at 4:02 AM
I am not angry.
Rogue - Today at 4:02 AM
yeah, neither am i
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 4:02 AM
I'm not either, just very disappointed.
Rogue - Today at 4:03 AM
tired of the negativity yeah but not upset at anyone here
Sume (Nekomatsume) - Today at 4:03 AM
I am sad and tired of seeing people leave.
Rogue - Today at 4:03 AM
^
Sume (Nekomatsume) - Today at 4:03 AM
Whether of their own accord or not.
Zenless (What is sleep) - Today at 4:03 AM
Any frustrations I have are in having a hard time getting enough help.  They aren't directed at any individuals.  Nepsin like anyone else has the right to do what they enjoy, just I have to adapt sim for it's sake.
Rogue - Today at 4:04 AM
that, though i understand sometimes sacrifices have to be made to keep things moving along. i'm not saying anyone here hasn't done shit lately, maybe there've been a couple that haven't, but of the people present at the moment, i'm not so sure
to clarify, most here have put in effort
but of the people that aren't actually doing anything and haven't in a while? there's not really a point to having them on
unless they have a legit reason like a LOA for whatever
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 4:07 AM
Fuck it then, heres this. I'm disappointed. Have been. Severly in how we've handled things. The way we treat players is less of a community and of care and more a focus on numbers and what that means for the bottom line. Unfortunately, theres too much of one side, and we've gone and fucked it all up. We're bleeding people because we can't kick the people that make people sick and we chase people off that want to do work. We banned Atreyu because he was picking his shit up, IT WAS HIS SHIT. IT WAS HIS FUCKING RIGHT FRANKLY. And thats why he was banned. But it took kenny, sam, and brian 500 counts of bullshit and trolling to ban. Marron? We let run rampant till today, and its a 24 hour. He'll get off tomorrow. And his bs he pulled after the ban? Not even considered. Our focus has been compromised for a long time and its not me thats started all this. This has been a fundamental problem. I'm not mad. I'm disappointed, because frankly, I know where our problems are and I've BEEN working. If it SEEMS like I'm not invested, yeah sure for a bit I wasn't, I was making sure my girlfriend was fucking okay because I actually give 100x more of a shit about her than this place, and we all know RL comes first, and when I did get back I wanted to RP a bit. Lynnea was a place I could go and not be bothered by my GM duties. I was burned. Out. WE'VE ALL BEEN THERE, but I get a deadline, and I was sticking to it, getting things moving, so I am disappointed, frankly, I was lied to, and stabbed in the god damn back. I have nothing else left to give, and frankly, say. Thank you for having me, and good luck.
And no. Not mad. Disappointed.
Rogue - Today at 4:11 AM
honestly, atreyu kinda deserved what he did, he's not the most level headed person in the sim and he's spread lies and and slander about me and others in the sim. all he does is throw a fit when stuff gets taken away from him after it's decided he hasn't done a single thing to help the sim and instead spent most of his time elsewhere. he spazzed out over the forge stuff, he spazzed out over the casino, and spazzed out when he was temporarily a faction lead, all that stuff stemmed from inactivity from him or some other reason. i wasn't happy to see him get unbanned but it is what it is.
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 4:12 AM
Oh he's an ass, but far from Brian and friends.
But he also helped the bottom line we care about.
Zenless (What is sleep) - Today at 4:12 AM
Sam and Brian been banned for months now, so I'm not really sure why that's even a thing as there's probably no way they're going to get their bans lifted.  Atreyu got his lifted, and he deserved his not just for messing upthe build but for lashing out and being verbally abusive.   If only we had people as passionate about doing things as we do people passionate about banning other players we'd be #1x10.
Hart (omen.zero) - Today at 4:13 AM
Okay first up, people are allowed to spend their time elsewhere. Its normal. If people are spending their time off sim questions need to be asked. Why are they doing this? What is causing them to spend time off sim? How can we improve or fix the issues that drive them away? The two things that never work are Aggression and Inaction. Burning bridges is never the way. But neither is ignoring them.

 Every action needs to be vetted, no autonomy. Literally you could have a list of things that need to be done and ask who wants to do what. Who wants to set up black sun and assign a leader? Who wants to fix X issue. We need this done by X date. How is Y progressing?


I'll just repeat it one last time for the class.
There is too much toxicity and inaction towards it.
There is too much harassment towards both players AND STAFF.
There is too much bureaucracy stopping progress.
Try asking people why they are off sim and figure out ways on how to bring back their involvement or their patronage. Without solid information its grasping at straws.
Actually enact on this information.


Gasp turns out people don't like trolls. Or being stalked. Or toxic environments. Or being harassed oocly. Or having their personal information or photos spread by people. Or being gaslit. Or being physically threatened when they are not interested in someone oocly. Or being reported falsely. Or having to literally have e-sex with people to get into factions.
Nipton the Librarian - Today at 4:14 AM
I can't really top that sry
Sume (Nekomatsume) - Today at 4:15 AM
^