13:15:11 [Kungfuknives]: lets just try one now
13:15:19 [Vye]: we once ttried with Sabry
13:15:23 [Vye]: did whole achi, ye
13:15:24 [Sartirion]: at least for Achievemnt
13:15:29 [Vye]: but with like half DA half pugs
13:15:33 [Icchunty]: vye
13:15:45 [Icchunty]: sabry wasnt making pvp raids , 90% of his raids were icc 25
13:15:49 [Icchunty]: succeed
13:15:56 [Vye]: told u "once"
13:16:11 [Icchunty]: anyway i definitly see a lot ppl in guild who can make SO GOOD raids
13:16:16 [Vye]: but try even small experiment
13:16:18 [Icchunty]: much better than sabry's
13:16:21 [Vye]: gahter peeps for simple bg
13:16:25 [Vye]: u won't get even 10
13:16:32 [Icchunty]: well
13:16:33 [Vye]: so forgot about full 40
13:16:33 [Icchunty]: atm are 190
13:16:35 [Icchunty]: 10*
13:16:41 [Icchunty]: ops
13:16:43 [Icchunty]: they are in arena
13:16:44 [Icchunty]: :D
13:16:48 [Icchunty]: fail
13:17:24 [Icchunty]: so as some1 said.. its more like 15 min u are doing nothing , waiting for bg queue , and u think its cool? :)
13:17:53 [Vye]: that's why i prefer arena
13:17:57 [Icchunty]: ..
13:18:02 [Vye]: :)
13:18:15 [Icchunty]: do u got the shadow edge alreadY?
13:18:24 [Vye]: mhm
13:18:32 [Vye]: long time ago
13:18:40 [Icchunty]: so u got the legendary sword which is after shadow edge?
13:18:44 [Icchunty]: forgot name damn
13:18:48 [Vye]: bugged
13:18:53 [Icchunty]: Oo
13:18:53 [Vye]: i mean doesn't work
13:19:00 [Sartirion]: lolmourne?
13:19:02 [Icchunty]: y
13:19:07 [Sartirion]: it working
13:19:11 [Sartirion]: u can get it
13:19:20 [Vye]: no idea if even putricide part works
13:19:42 [Zzpriest]: if that would work,we would see more and more ppl having them but it aint so
13:19:52 [Vye]: we won't
13:19:58 [Zzpriest]: yep
13:20:03 [Vye]: u need more than half year to colllect shards
13:20:04 [Sartirion]: because ppl dont know how to get it on Molten
13:20:16 [Sartirion]: u need Hardcore pvp guild
13:20:22 [Icchunty]: zz are u still leading big raids :D
13:20:25 [Vye]: i'm talking about that
13:20:27 [Zzpriest]: no
13:20:30 [Sartirion]: + ur guild have to give ur shadow frost shados w/o roll
13:20:32 [Icchunty]: k
13:20:33 [Vye]: u need half year if u\ll win all shards
13:20:39 [Vye]: if there will be roll, u won't get in never
13:20:41 [Sartirion]: then u should contact GM
13:20:42 [Icchunty]: gaerrar
13:20:48 [Icchunty]: u would already have 2 x shadowmourn :)
13:20:52 [Icchunty]: for all this time
13:20:54 [Sartirion]: after he check ur shadowfrosts he'll give
13:20:58 [Icchunty]: u play 2-3 years
13:21:02 [Vye]: but not raiding much
13:21:05 [Icchunty]: see?
13:21:07 [Vye]: with dk 1 year
13:21:07 [Icchunty]: :)
13:21:13 [Sartirion]: have u seen Shadowmourn hack bans?
13:21:14 [Acetylene]: Whats the pvp spell cap?
13:21:24 [Vye]: spell cap ?
13:21:29 [Acetylene]: hit cap.
13:21:31 [Vye]: 5%
13:21:35 [Acetylene]: thanks
13:21:52 [Behexen]: Miha lucky bastard!
13:22:04 [Zzpriest]: the guild is raiding more then enough,there are 2-3 voa 2icc25 but compared to the part of those 3icc now we have 10 bosses working,whitch u cant possible compare to those 3 in old times
13:22:12 [Behexen]: i just did [Ironman] and it didnt caunt WTF?!
13:22:19 [Doinurmom]: broken
13:22:29 [Vye]: told u nup it doesn't work
13:22:41 [Behexen]: but miha did it week ago
13:22:47 [Icchunty]: so zzpriest tell me , where is the problem to kill 5-6 boss in icc25 WITH ALTS ?
13:22:56 [Icchunty]: instead killing 0 because 0 raid
13:22:59 [Zzpriest]: who says it is some problem
13:23:07 [Icchunty]: well u say 2 icc25 enough
13:23:08 [Vye]: well mon
13:23:11 [Icchunty]: :{
13:23:14 [Vye]: we got not so manhy raid leaders
13:23:23 [Zzpriest]: how many ppl here have more then 2 alts
13:23:29 [Vye]: become Evzor and leat few raids per week and we'll have more ;D
13:23:32 [Yoshimitzu]: how you captured 3 flags? carry them all the way from ally base?
13:23:32 [Doinurmom]: i got 59
13:23:33 [Ahil]: some1 is up for OS 10/25?
13:23:37 [Zzpriest]: and compared to u,ppl have work and its summer and ppl are rather out
13:23:39 [Icchunty]: vallo has 15 alts , u have 10 alts , others 2-3 alts
13:23:44 [Icchunty]: so ?
13:23:50 [Sartirion]: few days ago i deleted all my alts) xept best geared
13:23:53 [Icchunty]: where problem :PP
13:23:58 [Zzpriest]: so?where u want to get ppl for 3 icc25
13:24:03 [Icchunty]: -.-
13:24:05 [Icchunty]: 380
13:24:12 [Icchunty]: 90% of them are 5k gs
13:24:25 [Icchunty]: small calculations and voalla :)

13:24:43 [Icchunty]: see yesterday i made icc25 , fail one , 3 boss kill
13:24:51 [Icchunty]: but it was good too , we kill 3 boss atleast
13:24:53 [Icchunty]: instead 0
13:24:54 [Nvra]: lol with 15 pugs what u want
13:25:02 [Zzpriest]: well if u miss that much make it,the duration of icc raid become 4hour+ not anymore 2h+,the progression became bigger not just like wtr
13:25:04 [Icchunty]: but atleast some guildies alts won items
13:25:11 [Nvra]: they cant rebuff 30 mins to start with the boss -.-'
13:26:05 [Icchunty]: zz , tell me , is icc25 x 2 (good two raids kill 10 boss) better than icc25 x 3 (with 2 raids who kill 10 boss and one raid kill 3 boss) ?
13:26:15 [Behexen]: some have to piss shit eat, relatives get sick have to build nuclear generators during raid, fuck it for me is enough with 1 icc 25
13:26:31 [Icchunty]: behexen , u tel me that in premade raids u dont go to WC?
13:26:39 [Icchunty]: damn
13:26:47 [Zzpriest]: there was 4 icc10 or 5 the ppl killed more then 6 bosses in all
13:26:50 [Bezhadeath]: Premade raids are supposed to have 5 min breaks now and then.
13:26:54 [Behexen]: no i dont I have installed it instead of my chair!
13:27:01 [Icchunty]: zz , im ok with the icc 10 / voa 10 raids
13:27:02 [Icchunty]: its cool
13:27:10 [Icchunty]: even that in old time x 6 of them , but not that big problem
13:27:10 [Zzpriest]: then wahts the problem
13:27:16 [Icchunty]: 25..
13:27:20 [Icchunty]: pffff nvm
13:27:22 [Icchunty]: long theme
13:27:25 [Zzpriest]: i told u
13:27:28 [Doinurmom]: wtf is with this boss in hos
13:27:32 [Doinurmom]: 25 sec stun
13:27:33 [Bezhadeath]: Icc how many chars have you got?
13:27:33 [Zzpriest]: 25 takes more then 4hour now
13:27:34 [Doinurmom]: and all die
13:27:45 [Dreamhunterx]: im doing an fos quest run with ruffy to help guildies
13:27:53 [Dreamhunterx]: if anyone need stick around we'll help u
13:29:33 [Zzpriest]: another thing is,there is the forum,the icc25 premade,due to the progression,i mean we still didnt kill sinra,by ur thinking to just go then not go,we will never kill her
13:29:53 [Icchunty]: didnt got that
13:30:06 [Zzpriest]: if u didnt get enough ppl for ur icc yesterday is because they are saved or they are w8 for today
13:30:08 [Icchunty]: im ok man , with ur premade epic 25 group , but we got more 360 ppl who wait for raid
13:30:22 [Icchunty]: its not cool
13:30:30 [Zzpriest]: my premade?i wasnt in the icc25 since more then 2 monts
13:30:35 [Icchunty]: nvm who's is this premade
13:30:40 [Icchunty]: im ok with it
13:30:46 [Doinurmom]: take my spot
13:30:50 [Doinurmom]: goof's spot
13:30:50 [Icchunty]: no problem there , kill syndragosa ill be glad
13:31:06 [Icchunty]: will cheer for u , but why not other raids with alts
13:31:22 [Zzpriest]: no i cant join,thats why i didnt reply for not one,because of work
13:31:26 [Kungfuknives]: any tank for fos/pos?
13:31:34 [Icchunty]: omg
13:31:36 [Icchunty]: zz
13:31:39 [Xiaoyiang]: nah we did 4 iccs we killed 10 bosses.
13:31:40 [Icchunty]: i dont blame u that u havent join
13:31:48 [Bulletwrath]: since when is main raid on sunday?
13:31:50 [Icchunty]: its ok u had work ... but u are not 360 ppl
13:31:59 [Zzpriest]: no but ok,ppl dont join whats the problem?those who join go,those who dont ,dont
13:32:12 [Zzpriest]: i dont see the fuss about it
13:32:20 [Zzpriest]: if u cant get ppl its not ur problem
13:32:22 [Outre]: there was an alt raid hunty
13:32:24 [Bulletwrath]: i cant raid on sundays :/
13:32:26 [Outre]: monday or tuesday was it
13:32:26 [Zzpriest]: u saw it
13:32:29 [Behexen]: what 360 ppl are you talking about? :D
13:32:32 [Zzpriest]: u got what u got
13:32:41 [Zzpriest]: u took all who wanted to join
13:32:42 [Icchunty]: click O , go to guild , show off line members
13:32:48 [Icchunty]: *for behe
13:32:48 [Bregar]: password for global?
13:32:58 [Xiaoyiang]: password?
13:32:59 [Xiaoyiang]: lol?
13:32:59 [Bulletwrath]: i can only raid on fridays and saterdays...
13:33:00 [Zzpriest]: those who didnt ,didnt,and for that u cant blame that there isnt more 3icc25
13:33:10 [Icchunty]: -.-
13:33:15 [Xiaoyiang]: the thing is metroll
13:33:16 [Bregar]: ye it tell me i need pass to enter global
13:33:20 [Ahil]: need 1 healer for toc10 pug last spot
13:33:20 [Yoshimitzu]: those 370 are 35% alts
13:33:23 [Xiaoyiang]: not every1 in guild has 3-4 alts like us
13:33:30 [Ahil]: full
13:33:36 [Icchunty]: yoshi so what?
13:33:36 [Xiaoyiang]: and we make 2 iccs a week
13:33:38 [Xiaoyiang]: thats 50 ppl
13:33:44 [Icchunty]: alts cant do icc25?
13:33:45 [Zzpriest]: the guild dosnt have a problem about that,only u have,so idk where is ur goal
13:33:52 [Xiaoyiang]: if u wana make the 3rd 1 then get more ppl to gear up there alts
13:34:03 [Acetylene]: I has 2 geared alts
13:34:04 [Sartirion]: u cant do ICC with 10 dks 10 warriors and 5 healers
13:34:08 [Xiaoyiang]: and yesterday u got like 15 guildies
13:34:08 [Nvra]: btw this week from voa 10/25 icc 10/25 i make only 1 guild raid other was with 50% pugs and ofc we fail after some bosses
13:34:08 [Icchunty]: my goal is to try getting back evantia's or whoever made the good old raid weekly plan
13:34:20 [Xiaoyiang]: u see nvra
13:34:24 [Zzpriest]: the weekly plan is here
13:34:28 [Icchunty]: ?
13:34:28 [Zzpriest]: and btw
13:34:31 [Xiaoyiang]: we made alot of voa 10s mon-tues
13:34:32 [Zzpriest]: she is working
13:34:35 [Xiaoyiang]: maby u werent on
13:34:42 [Zzpriest]: so she comes home at night
13:34:47 [Icchunty]: i know she is working , its 1 min time to put it in guild forum
13:34:58 [Icchunty]: there are plenty of ppl who can do it instead of her
13:35:05 [Icchunty]: i understand her
13:35:14 [Zzpriest]: ppl are doing more then enough,those who do
13:35:25 [Icchunty]: .. ok i dont have anything more to say..
13:35:37 [Icchunty]: atleast tried.
13:35:42 [Zzpriest]: Mahlek,Anfa,Eva,Vallo,Inixien
13:35:50 [Zzpriest]: those do when they can
13:35:58 [Xiaoyiang]: and thing is
13:35:59 [Zzpriest]: And sheepy
13:36:02 [Icchunty]: ...
13:36:08 [Xiaoyiang]: eva took away the raid plan bec for 2 weeks
13:36:15 [Xiaoyiang]: we had to move a raid to enxt day after another
13:36:17 [Icchunty]: nvm u didnt understood me anyway just... end the theme
13:36:24 [Xiaoyiang]: now guild is starting to build up again
13:36:38 [Xiaoyiang]: maby the raid plan can come back, eva took it away bec we wer making raids on another day
13:36:44 [Icchunty]: btw
13:36:47 [Icchunty]: i talked with eva last night
13:36:49 [Xiaoyiang]: but like we make icc 25 on monday and wat 15 pitch up?
13:36:57 [Icchunty]: she said something on this theme so this talking now we doing is useless
13:37:05 [Xiaoyiang]: or it takes 2-3 hours just to fill up a raid?
13:37:18 [Icchunty]: or if u premade it , no need 3 hours to fill it up
13:37:21 [Zzpriest]: well who started it?and u received the answers
13:37:37 [Icchunty]: i hope she rly put this raid calendar in guild
13:37:41 [Xiaoyiang]: but why are u so sad about this permade>
13:37:43 [Icchunty]: so we can put our premades on it
13:37:44 [Zzpriest]: and if u dont like them how they sound its not my problme
13:37:47 [Xiaoyiang]: we stil make a guild run for alts
13:37:57 [Xiaoyiang]: its not like we didnt make 1 for the past few weeks
13:38:04 [Icchunty]: xiao
13:38:05 [Icchunty]: who is ur alt?
13:38:09 [Xiaoyiang]: and this permade started last week
13:38:09 [Zzpriest]: Mahlek
13:38:25 [Icchunty]: so
13:38:38 [Icchunty]: i wanna stop this talking now , we'll see next week how will be the stuff
13:38:49 [Kollektiva]: need tank for rdf hc
13:38:50 [Icchunty]: will do everything i can
13:39:09 [Kollektiva]: need tank for rdf hc
13:39:18 [Zzpriest]: u wasnt online for more then 2 monts,u will see that,its still the same,u just dont see it
13:39:19 [Adyanto]: kol
13:39:21 [Adyanto]: Kollektiva
13:39:24 [Kollektiva]: ?
13:39:26 [Adyanto]: hold on
13:39:35 [Kollektiva]: need 3 dps for rdf hc
13:39:48 [Kollektiva]: need 3 dps for rdf hc
13:39:50 [Kollektiva]: 2
13:39:57 [Chakilla]: inv
13:40:08 [Kollektiva]: need 1 dps for rdf hc
13:40:10 [Varth]: invite
13:40:24 [Kollektiva]: need 1 dps for rdf hc
13:40:41 [Kollektiva]: need 1 dps for rdf hc
13:40:47 [Kollektiva]: cmon pls, i dont want to go with pug
13:40:49 [Outre]: inv
13:40:52 [Kollektiva]: ty
13:40:56 [Dreamhunterx]: need 1 dps fos normal
13:41:00 [Crashc]: cya
13:41:06 [Dreamhunterx]: can be quest run, got imba tank imba heal and dps
13:41:22 [Dreamhunterx]: need 1 dps fos normal
13:41:55 [Icchunty]: dream inv me