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  1. [23:01] <@Sarah> So what? That is still evolutionary
  2. [23:02] <@Ask`> Sarah I did not say there was no evidence.. Adam became a dying creature he was not subject to death bofore thje transgression
  3. [23:02] <@Sarah> and its provable, we can SEE the changes in the population by examining allelle frequency
  4. [23:02] <@Ask`> it is nor evolution.. try not to play with words
  5. [23:03] <@Ask`> Sarah it is inherited accoding to trhe genbes.. there is no crossing over of species
  6. [23:03] == DataLore [[email protected]] has joined #christiandebate
  7. [23:03] == DataLore [[email protected]] has left #christiandebate []
  8. [23:03] <@Sarah> Ask` Ok, adam was protected by God, Gods WILL protected him. When God did not will it, he was unprotected, that has no bearing on the fact that bacteria existed and werent created because of the fall
  9. [23:04] <+RachelThompson> Sarah: The account in Genesis is incompatible with the theory of evolution.
  10. [23:04] <@Ask`> Sarah explsain protected... that is not a term used
  11. [23:05] <@Ask`> Sarah and if you say that bacteria. for good o bad.. existed then Genesis is false and our hope is void
  12. [23:06] <+RachelThompson> Genesis is not a true account.
  13. [23:06] <@Sarah> !niv 2thes 3:3
  14. [23:06] <@BibleBot> 2Th3:3 But the Lord is faithful, and he will strengthen and protect you from the evil one. (NIV)
  15. [23:06] <@Sarah> God protects us
  16. [23:06] <+DeckrdR> genesis is barely an account
  17. [23:06] <@Sarah> God decides what he will protect usfrom
  18. [23:06] <@Sarah> Its all it needs to be DeckrdR
  19. [23:06] <+RachelThompson> It is useful as a story to understand human perception and emotion, though.
  20. [23:06] <+DeckrdR> it's a story
  21. [23:06] <+RachelThompson> DeckrdR: A lot of Christians think the Genesis account is a true account.
  22. [23:07] <+DeckrdR> yes, some may
  23. [23:07] <+RachelThompson> 45% of Americans think the Earth is 6000 years old.
  24. [23:07] <+RachelThompson> Virtually all of those are Christians.
  25. [23:07] <+RachelThompson> And that's just YECs.
  26. [23:08] <+RachelThompson> Which is not required for the GoE story.
  27. [23:08] <+DeckrdR> US is queer in that respect
  28. [23:08] <@Ask`> Sarah based on strengthen and our own actions support that .. the word protect is not as good word.. trhe Greek word is sterizo and it means to set fast in the fact that we have been strengthened by our understan ding of the word
  29. [23:08] <+Tabaliah> some even think the world is flat . . .
  30. [23:08] <@Sarah> RachelThompson I've got to go but I'd love you to prove that God could not have created the earth as shown in Genesis, that its not possible
  31. [23:08] <@Ask`> @Sarah> God decides what he will protect usfrom <<< a misuse of the word
  32. [23:09] <+RachelThompson> Sarah: 150 years of scientific research is available for you online.
  33. [23:09] <+RachelThompson> I'd focus on geology and biology.
  34. [23:09] <@Sarah> RachelThompson NONE of that is relevant
  35. [23:09] Ignored Sarah, to unignore type: /UNIGNORE Sarah
  36. [23:09] <@Ask`> Sarah thanks for the debate... it is one of tghe better ones and what this channel should be about
  37. [23:09] <+DeckrdR> science doesn't attempt to disprove gods
  38. [23:09] <+RachelThompson> "150 years of scientific research" is "[not] relevant".
  39. [23:09] <+RachelThompson> Got it.
  40. [23:10] <+RachelThompson> DeckrdR: Gods have not been used as a serious scientific hypothesis for about 150 years.
  41. [23:10] <+RachelThompson> It's a refuted idea.
  42. [23:10] <+DeckrdR> although there'll be the odd nutter who tries
  43. [23:10] <+DeckrdR> no reason to think a god plays any role whatsoever
  44. [23:10] <@Ask`> Tabaliah the world is flat.. I put a spirit level down and yes, it is flat
  45. [23:10] <+Tabaliah> Not on my floors it's not . . .
  46. [23:10] <+DeckrdR> RachelThompson: afaik, yes...
  47. [23:10] <@BibleBot> Psa5:11 But let all who take refuge in you be glad; let them ever sing for joy. Spread your protection over them, that those who love your name may rejoice in you. (NIV)
  48. [23:11] <@Ask`> Sarah God deciding would bew another good debate
  49. [23:11] <+DeckrdR> quoting bible verses doesn't demonstrate anything
  50. [23:11] <+DeckrdR> other than there being bible verses
  51. [23:11] <+RachelThompson> It demonstrates their cognitive style.
  52. [23:11] <@Ask`> Sarah that would get into free will
  53. [23:11] <+Tabaliah> Nor does quoting most of the people off the internet . . .
  54. [23:11] <+DeckrdR> There's a bible verse that says this or that, ahuh...interesting
  55. [23:12] <@Ask`> Tabaliah are you floors not flat?
  56. [23:12] <+Tabaliah> Or level
  57. [23:12] <@Ask`> DeckrdR context is the issue and even the meanings of the words in their original language
  58. [23:12] <+RachelThompson> DeckrdR: Sarah indicated "150 years of scientific research" is "[not] relevant"
  59. [23:13] <+RachelThompson> That was the end of the 'debate'.
  60. [23:13] <@Ask`> Tabaliah you roll a ball down?
  61. [23:13] <+DeckrdR> shame a doctor doesn't have a higher regard for that same science
  62. [23:13] <+RachelThompson> I wish her luck with her religious worldview.
  63. [23:13] <+Tabaliah> Naw, too many bumps in the laminate :)
  64. [23:13] <+RachelThompson> DeckrdR: I have previously attempted to remind Sarah of Christian teachings when she is mad.
  65. [23:14] <+RachelThompson> It goes over poorly.
  66. [23:14] <+RachelThompson> She gets enraged, takes it personally, and lashes out instead of moderating her emotions.
  67. [23:14] <+RachelThompson> There's a reasonable chance she'll do it in response to my last few posts.
  68. [23:14] <+RachelThompson> This person would have us believe she's got a real insight into the creator of the universe
  69. [23:14] <+DeckrdR> I don't know whether reading it 'correctly' really makes a differnce to it's usefulness
  70. [23:14] <+DeckrdR> or uselessness
  71. [23:14] <@Ask`> RachelThompson enough of that... this is a debate channel sznd we iron out differences by debate...
  72. [23:14] <@Ask`> RachelThompson enough of that... this is a debate channel sznd we iron out differences by debate...
  73. [23:14] <+RachelThompson> I'd recommend she demonstrate master of her mind before demonstrating competence about Universe Creators
  74. [23:14] <@Ask`> you won't be warned again
  75. [23:15] <+RachelThompson> Ask`: That's convenient
  76. [23:15] <+RachelThompson> When I share my thoughts, it's breaking the rules
  77. [23:15] <+DeckrdR> yes, science does not disprove not-detectable gods
  78. [23:15] <+DeckrdR> hmm
  79. [23:15] <+RachelThompson> When an operator loses control over their emotions, they ban
  80. [23:15] <+DeckrdR> next
  81. [23:15] <@Ask`> personal attacks are not welcome
  82. [23:15] <+RachelThompson> Later, here is no accountable for the operator
  83. [23:16] == RachelThompson was kicked from #Christiandebate by Sarah [You are frightening our customers, we must ask... ehh, tell you to leave]
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